The Duma Committee on Defense, the government body responsible for PMCs, said that it’s "impossible to prohibit the activities of Wagner". Why? Because "they did not offend anyone, did not break anything." “No one has the slightest claim against them – neither the residents of Rostov, nor the military personnel of the Southern Military District, nor the law enforcement agencies. So what are their questions? There are no complaints about them. If they want to sign a contract with the Ministry of Defense, they will sign it. If they don’t want to, then here each person is free to choose his own destiny, he will do something else, ”
So, /k/, there you have it. It was simply fake. Unless it’s totally okay to try an armed coup in Russia.
They are scared of Wagner
>6:08
a bit early for you isn't it
>Try to claim every victory Wagner has was the Russian militaries
>Try to force Wagner to sign with MOD
>try to dispose of Wagner on two occasions failing both
>Try to call the nation to stop the mutiny
>all end up failing as no one does anything against an armed PMC group
if i was in the Russian government i would see the obvious signs of knives being sharpened and leave
Instead they're beheading mobiks that tried to go over to Wagner's side
I feel like it be the night of the heavy sledgehammers with them.
>Nothing happen
>Ther is no worry
>Never was panick
>Ignore previous statements of "Wagner enemy of state" and "oh my god, park the sand truck"
So are they admitting that the fuel depot in Voronzeh was blew up by loyalists/regulars?
Or are they pretending it was just another smooker incident?
No one complained so everything is fine.
Not sure how this is gonna work with the families of the pilots of the downed choppers.
They're not complaining. Their friendly FSB neighbours aren't complaining. What more do you need?
The thing that gets me is that you're absolutely right. Is that vranyo at work? Does this concept apply here? Their attempts at minimizing Wagner's shenanigans make no sense whatsoever. It's a cartload of ridiculous and obvious bullshit, a hilariously transparent lie that no one with more than two brain cells to rub together can possibly buy. But they're all going to nod and go along with it despite knowing the truth, aren't they?
This is grim.
But where’s Putin himself now? I’d take even Bruise or Udmurt over this deafening silence.
Horatio approves
Yes. This is blatant lies of the "What are you gonna do about it?" kind, directed not at convincing anyone with a functioning brain, but at making russians aware that the government does as it pleases and they can't do shit except seethe impotently at the kitchen table. It's a linguistic power move.
The same way Russia treats the families of all its other dead servicemen?
Like shit.
They're Russians
The frick are they ever gonna do about fricking anything?
Repeat after me: "Unfortunate training accident"
when they are asked they will say that they don't know how their loved ones died
If they refuse, then their next of kin will field all future questions of this nature
I wouldn't worry about it, anon. It's not like putin does have any experience dealing with such things.
priggy is paying for many bags of potato for their grief. Why would they complain?
No one calls this frick priggy except his bots
There were no downed choppers or planes those images were from Ukraine. Duh.
Rostov and Voronezh are part of Ukraine.
No helicopters or planes were shot down or did you make the mistake of believing vatBlack person spam posting images and wembs recorded in Ukraine? Or do you not care because fake and gay vatBlack person spam about vatBlack folk?
that surveilance plane being shot down as well as all of the helicopters were in russia, there were also no instances of those videos online before this happened. coupe and seethe.
Same way it worked with Dmitry Shkrebets, father of one of the young conscripts on Moskva.
>have the unit commander pretend he doesn't know what happened to the lad
>make a couple threatening phone calls and texts if the relative goes public
>hit 'em with the "discreditation" charges if they don't shut up
Well, a new Lada is a new Lada.
Merely a prank
Given 4 bags of cheetos and 50 dollars.
There never was a fuel depot and is is not still burning.
No helicopters or airborne command posts were downed.
No vehicles were bombed.
No roads were mined, no highways were dug up.
All instances of the population cheering random criminals as saviors are staged and never happened.
Prigozhin did nothing wrong and the case against him is closed, yes, very closed. It's closed, ok?
They're using all those memories to close up all the holes they blew in their own roads.
All these memories... gone... like wieners in ass...
>invasion of Ukraine? lmao what invasion of Ukraine
Frick me I can actually see the post in my minds eye and it hasn't even happened yet
>Russians staged nazi operations with actual physical copies of SIMS games? No way that happened. How stupid do you think I am?
This too shall come to pass in a few years.
>Reparations? Why should Russia pay any reparations? We never invaded Ukraine
t. vatnik 2025
If anything, this is the best reason for Total Zigger Death.
Not the wholesale murder, rape and looting.
Not the fact that they won't balk at digging up the worst radiated areas in the world and cause large-scale environmental disasters.
Not even the insufferable zigger shills, as much as I'd love to nuke them out of existence.
No.
It's the fact that ziggers will do all that and more, and then refuse to draw any conclusions or learn lessons from the consequences, repress the whole thing out of memory, and then go on to do the exact same thing in a decade or two.
There's no reasoning with ziggers, there's no teaching them, there's no chance of improvement.
There's only Total Zigger Death.
They already did it with the 1st Chechen War, Afghanistan, the 1920 invasion of Poland, and the entirety of World War 1.
This war, and its 200,000 casualties, will vanish into the Void of Lost Russian Wars never to be mentioned again.
Needs one of the Ukrainian-bombed bridge holes instead of a brain.
Isn't the Duma literally a powerless circus performance with no actual political power?
If we assume that they are noting more than speakers for the ones in charge, it still looks really bad as it is the entire Russian government essentially admitting that they kneel before Wagner
The Duma has power, it’s just they all owe fealty directly or indirectly to Putin so they simply do whatever they’re told to.
OH MY GOD THEY GOT PRANKED
Operation Flashpoint footage
Nah, this is straight out of Chuck Yeager's Flight Sim, I'd recognize it anywhere
If it really was a command post there was bound to be some high ranking officer on board right? Not that dead Russian generals are a big thing as one seems to bite the dust every other week.
>Unless it’s totally okay to try an armed coup in Russia.
I wonder who's next and what opposition will be brought up against them. Does Russia have any reserves they could draw on so that they can show to next upstart that this was just a fluke? Maybe forces from far east?
Or would FSB/GRU feel compelled to organize a little strawman uprising next, Sims 3 and all?
Wagners are national heroes. Even if Putin ordered the FSB to kill Priggin, I doubt they would.
If you are an intelligence officer, think about who got shit done in Ukraine and saw the videos of people cheering on Wagner troops and then think about that old frail guy hiding behind a long table in some dacha, whom would you support?
every good power grab includes some prison time beforehand, this is not over
If prighozin writes a book now I will raise my eyebrow.
Wagner’s role was to send disposable convicts into defensive positions to fix defenders while the RuAF hammered them with artillery. So it was a tag-team, not Wagner being heroes.
The way he failed to take Bakhmut was vely implessive.
The best part of this is Western intelligence agencies disagreeing over what just happened.
As someone that lives in China this sort of reasoning is why they will never pose a threat to the free world
>Obvious problem exists
>Pointing out the problem is forbidden because someone at the top caused it
>Problem causes side effects and more problems
>Claim that's not the case
>Claim it's the fault of others
>Claim it's actually good
>Eventually things implode due to problem
>Blame someone from the outside or some random moron
>Everyone claps as the original culprit starts the next obvious moronation nobody is allowed to talk about
>Repeat
No problem ever gets solved, things just implode eventually
Putin will get weaker and weaker while the people around him tell him he's loved and feared by the population, the war is going well and the armed mob outside actually supports him. Till he gets shot some day.
You just described how bureaucracy works. It's the same everywhere. The US fare better because they still have monetary power, that's it.
That kind of mentality is present in every organisation, but it's not the same everywhere. Some places have it worse. Much, much worse. There's a reason why Chinese factories produce so many more LiveLeak videos than American ones.
Its funny to me that communism and bureaucracy work in the same way as diversity.
It's almost like all systems are not immune to bloat and must be occasionally pruned.
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Russianвpaньё(vranʹjó,“lying, lies”), fromвpaть(vratʹ,“to lie”)(contrasted withлoжь(ložʹ))
White liesor half-lies in Russian culture, told without the intention of (maliciously)deceiving, but as afantasy, suppressing unpleasant parts of the truth.quotations
Is it a white lie to lie about a concept of lying not being used maliciously when the lie is offered as a way to cope with the grim reality of nihilistic society?
>Putin calls Prigozhin traitor https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AbCjzL9Y5MQ
>Prigozhin says that Putin is wrong https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nf6SOqHBWHQ
>Duma sides with Prigozhin
How demented is Putin? Yelling 'betrayal' in his bunker when everything is fine.
Of course it was fricking fake. /k/ was calling it fake and gay straight away. The wall of vatBlack person spam threads and posts that was obviously synchronised (remember the day the vatBlack folk blew up the pipeline) prooved that staright away. Wagners turd world botfarms went into turbo spam mode alongside glavset. Even the MSM in the west got hooked but /k/ saw it for what it was, vatBlack person bait. More interesting is why the kremlin orchestrated the bullshit
1)Make Putin look in charge?
2)Draw out mutineers from the demoralised military?
3)Move wagner into belaus
i)To invade Ukraine with luka?
ii)To keep luka under control?
iii)To take over Belarus and its military?
4)Distract the Russian public from the continuing losses in Ukraine?
5)Cover the retreat of a chunk of the Russian military from Ukraine?
Or all of the above.
The purpose was to discredit the casus belli, and undermine and humiliate the MoD and Putin.
Still lying I see. Go away vatBlack person
? We know now for sure the war was started to loot Ukraine, Russian daily casualties are enormous, and the MoD is incompetent. Internal leadership is precarious. Prigo is confirmed traitor by Putin, and Putin is confirmed coward by Putin fleeing. Nobody in Russia seems to care if Putin is threatened.
It really was a genius move by Russia.
Prigo is habitual liar, being a mobster and all. Nothing he says publicly should be automatically believed, ie, offering Ukraine Russian troop coordinates if they’d leave Bakhmut, MoD working with the US to kill Wagners in Syria, etc and so on.
just a silly little man who shouldn't be taken seriously. gotcha
>*flees moscow*
It must have been embarrassing to call him a man of integrity hours before he betrayed /k/‘s expectations. L stands for Learning.
he has proven his integrity by exposing russia for what it truly is. the world is thankful for that at least
Cope, this was not 5d chess by Russia.
>Cope, this was not 5d chess by Russia.
The chess pieces are in the ass soon all shall be pawn the queen is raised and ass to ass in the ass with the ass. Checkmate.
>(remember the day the vatBlack folk blew up the pipeline)
Your post would have been more credible if you mentioned the blowed up dam instead. Everyone knows that the Russians didn't blew their own pipeline.
vatBlack person 100% confirmed thus also confirming that the wagner happening was fake and gay. yes the russian blew up the pipeline. Muh FSB scripted dramas. meanwhile Ukraine is erasing the Russian military. maybe if Putin types up another amateur drama club evening play on his typewriter all will be well.
Meds
Firehose of lies on pipeline day and on wagner day. VatBlack person spam. Yup. What a surprise it turns out the wagner 'happening' is a kremlin scripted nothingburger
to me as a brainlet it just doesn't make sense to stage this
>1)Make Putin look in charge?
the opposite happened, he fled as wagner freely marched toward moscow and then he reneged on accusing them of treason
>2)Draw out mutineers from the demoralised military?
maybe but it was framed by prigozhin as
a march of justice for wagner and against mod corruption so whoever joined it can plausibly deny setting out to do anything really "wrong"
>3)Move wagner into belaus
>i)To invade Ukraine with luka?
>ii)To keep luka under control?
>iii)To take over Belarus and its military?
staging a mutiny before exiling prigozhin there doesn't seem necessary or conducive for any of these
>4)Distract the Russian public from the continuing losses in Ukraine?
>5)Cover the retreat of a chunk of the Russian military from Ukraine?
prigozhin specifically drew attention to the losses of men and territory that have been covered up by the mod before he set out to march
i feel like all of the destruction proved it was real.
russia's not going to sacrifice a bunch of fricking irreplaceable EW aircraft and an oil depot for this, i could see how they would just dig some holes in a highway, but shooting down a bunch of specialized helicopters they only had a handful of to begin with seems ridiculous.
it would've been more believeable if they sent regular, more expendable MI-8's but honestly the 5D chess seems like horseshit to me.
i think putin and prigo both just fricked up their calculations and are now paying for it in face.
>i feel like all of the destruction proved it was real.
yep
maybe prigozhin expected putin to take his side and agree with changing up the mod but when putin instead fled and framed the march as treason the stakes suddenly became way higher than prigozhin had intended
how many of these TU-22M's did they have anyway? i assume they're not building them anymore.
*sorry i meant IL22M
There never was any shit in the oxcart *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~
I don't understand, cumrad, if nothing has happened, then why is the investigation against Priggy's mutiny still ongoing (i.e. it has not been dropped)?
https://t.me/kommersant/52540
To be fair to the MoD/FSB whatever
Priggles probably hasn't left for Belarus yet, it would be dumb for either side to let their guards down right now
There must be a lot of backroom deals going on in Russia right now, I doubt even Putler knows the full picture
>Proof it was fake
It was fake. It was gay. It was the wagner happening and /k/ said it was fake and gay nearly immediately despite the wall of botspam.
Imagine believing a story spammed by a firehose of lies. This was 100% fake and gay and it was obvious. Never believe anything Russians say.
I'm honestly kind of impressed how the bot farms can pivot like this.
There were people posting it was fake and gay immediately on /k/. The fact is that board regulars can spot vatBlack person firehose of lies and spam. You should pack up and frick off, you are wasting your time here. Russia has lost the war in Ukraine.
>more schizo babble
I don't even know why I keep coming back to that board.
You probably should not come here if you are susceptible to getting conned by fake and gay vatBlack person bullshit and scripted dramas and narratives spammed here
>implying only Russians can into propaganda
At this point I feel like they're just trying to flood the frequencies so to speak with bullshit, like their radar jammers that produced background noise on a lot of civilian radio signals.
>At this point I feel like they're just trying to flood the frequencies so to speak with bullshit, like their radar jammers that produced background noise on a lot of civilian radio signals.
I really hope the bot farms meet the same fate as the Mi-8 jammers.
Gee OP the text in the article and the text in your post seem to say two completely different things. You wouldn't possibly have a motive for this would you? What is funny is all the obvious vatBlack folk piling on accepting your post as factually correct.
>This was 100% fake and gay and it was obvious. Never believe anything Russians say.
I'm going to expound upon my claim because I'm certain /k/ is comprised of illiterate morons:
In the article there is a contextual line which precedes the quoted portion that OP curiously left out.
>Answering a question about the Wagner fighters who participated in the occupation of Russian cities, the deputy noted that
It goes on with what OP quoted
>"they did not offend anyone..."
This is a truth as they didn't do anything to the citizens of Rostov, the southern military district, or law enforcement agencies. They did however shoot down MoD helicopters and an aircraft as well as get up to other shenanigans against the MoD. So OP's insinuation that this was a blanket statement regarding Wagner's antics that day is yet another cholera tainted shit jet from his firehose of lies.
That’s the best you can do? Not even debate it, just the appearance of debating it?
Vatnigs don't get the benefit of debate.
>"they did not offend anyone, did not break anything."
I'm pretty sure some pilots would like to disagree.
>>"they did not offend anyone, did not break anything."
>I'm pretty sure some pilots would like to disagree.
>There were no downed choppers or planes those images were from Ukraine. Duh.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^READ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There is no war in Ba-sing-se, ok got it.
>I'm pretty sure some pilots would like to disagree.
From beyond the grave? There is no one to complain. They never existed in the first place.
how long until israelitegozin has a suicide committed against him?
SCARED
Ho hum
So everybody is contradicting everybody else and Putin has gone missing.
Also Prigozhin hasn't made any social media posts since he said he was giving up, so, what does this all mean?
Did Russians just hack into his telegram account and declare he was quitting while priggy is still storming towards moscow?
No, it just means that the story we' ve been fed is true and Putin renegs on his security guarantees to Pringles, which was to be expected.
Total Wagner Death soon comrade.
Also Priggy will become a martyr for the Russian ultranationalists.
every time i see comments like this i have to remind myself that this is real life and not some strangereal geopolitical military action flick.
All the people in this story are normal humans, not stupid people's idea of genius.
that honestly makes it scarier.
post yfw you don't live in russia.
No, there was a video of him in a car departing to somewhere as a crowd was milling about. If this was real then maybe he got disappeared in the woods KGB style enroute.
Uh oh, they couldn’t stop him with 50 attack helicopters but when the bobbies slap the irons on him that will be the end of it!
So globohomosexual fell into the russian "coup" honeypot, huh? Hitler did this to the bong morons a couple times too. Prighozin takes a little mussolini ride on jootube and twatters death to putin, putin digs a couple tank trenches and blows up some drones, and globohomosexual then transfers billions to Prig's account. Hours later, it's over. Fastest coup in history.
Love the /k/ope.
inb4 wagner has actually managed to seize the Voronezh-45 facility, but its being hushed up
nuclear blackmail can get you far in life, but the US has it's espionage fingers so far up russia's ass, i think they would actually know if this was the case.
that'd be fun but i don't think wagner ever even claimed to be going for nukes it was just speculation from outsiders, if anything prigozhin seemed to emphasize that they wouldn't disturb normal operations of the military
>Fake
Russian planes and helicopters crash all time on their own
Please give me a link to an article about them from before June 24th 2023
Do an image search and you’ll find lots which look similar; a burst wreck in a field someplace in Russia. Most or maybe even all of these images are Ukrainian infowar fakes.
>Psyop
>these will be called old pictures but never pointed out from when they're from.
I’m not saying for certain it’s fake, but when I did a reverse image search to find the source all I could find were Ukrainian accounts and accounts commenting on them. I didn’t search the others but I suggest you do as to not be bamboozled over and over again.
>twitter
>english twitter
are you moronic?
He must be.
Bet he also doesn't know any honest Russian discussion happens not on Telegram (which sell you info to Russia and India) but on anonymous forums hosted in Oceania.
No just disingenuous
Don't bother, some of us have been of saying these from the very dawn of events, /k/opers are just as clamoring in desperation for a HATO, ukraine win, they're planet is collapsing before they're gaze.
*their
When was the last time we got a sign of life from Prigozhin? How do we know he is still alive?
>. It was simply fake.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tell that to the dozen dead pilots and blown up fuel depot.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you vatBlack folk are pathetic.
Those were Ukrainian pilots, they had stolen Russian command aircraft and were going to deliver them to HATO but Wager found out about it and successfully intercepted them.
All or nearly all (the jury is still out I don’t make it my life to study this shit all day) are infowar fakes from Ukraine and perhaps one from a random internet troll.
>infowar fakes from Ukraine and perhaps one from a random internet troll
Source?
>not great not terrible
totally imaginary zizterz*~~*~~
https://twitter.com/EjShahid/status/1673052456450654211/photo/1
also there's video footage of the IL both as it was falling and of the wreckage
Here is the source Telegram channel (apparently, I think). Note this post.
Have we somehow regressed back to stage one?
Just wait for the next human right violation of Russia and it will start all over again