Warsaw plans to transfer to Kyiv all the Soviet weapons that are in service with Poland.
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1563822977904508936
We got shill a shit tone of it: BMP-1, BRDM-2, PT-91, Malutka, Grad, Gwozdika etc.
Warsaw plans to transfer to Kyiv all the Soviet weapons that are in service with Poland.
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1563822977904508936
We got shill a shit tone of it: BMP-1, BRDM-2, PT-91, Malutka, Grad, Gwozdika etc.
Is this actually true or one of those news releases you never see anything come from it?
I'm pretty sure this is one of the channels that correctly reported on Twardy transfers weeks before it was officially announced. It might be legit
doubt honestly, at least not all in once my best guess is that they will send in number of small batches through time with reserve vehicles first.
APC/IFV contract wasn't sighted yet, so it's going to take time I guess, potato king is still quite a threat.
>Now waiting for the Polish internet brigade to blame Western Europe for not doing the same even though none has thousands of soviet BMP-1s from the 60s to send.
Well if not Germany then France could have spare some of their AMX-10P that they retired from service
>Well if not Germany then France could have spare some of their AMX-10P that they retired from service
They were scrapped half a decade ago, along with the last AMX-30.
Don't expect nations to keep their obsolete, never to be used again stuff in hangars, maintained and ready to be fielded after a quick paint job.
France already sent hundreds of VABs last months, reportedly. I say reportedly because France keeps most of the deliveries undisclosed and these were never officially announced, all we have are videos of them moved by train in France and other videos of VABs used by Ukrainians on the frontline.
>"French Ministry of Armed Forces announced in June 2022 that "significant quantities" of armed VAB will be delivered to Ukraine as part of France's military aid in the context of 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine."
Oh well actually they did.
That's what you get when you rely exclusively on twitter accounts to get information, these frickers will conceal deliveries to push their agenda.
The other option was throwing that shit away since nobody with enough money to make worth selling wants that shit anymore. Should have happened earlier.
Ammo and fuel would be even more appreciated.
>TpyxaNews
Now post an unbiased source.
>We got shill a shit tone of it: BMP-1, BRDM-2, PT-91, Malutka, Grad, Gwozdika etc.
There goes that Polish "support", dumping old rusty stuff into Ukraine to make room for the modern stuff.
Now waiting for the Polish internet brigade to blame Western Europe for not doing the same even though none has thousands of soviet BMP-1s from the 60s to send.
A BMP-1 is better than a crowdfunded SUV. It can actually protect the troops from a mine, and it doesn't break that fast.
>It can actually protect the troops from a mine
It can't, BMPs have very thin armor, they're supposed to have positive buoyancy to ford deep rivers, they were never meant to protect from mines, only small arms.
+ the rear doors are fuel tanks.
There are countless videos of infantry being alive and well after hitting a mine on a BMP. A civilian car would just explode.
Infantery dismounting doesn't mean they're alive and well.
When that BMP-1 in Yakovlivka was hit by a mine, almost all the guys were slowly limping their way out or immediatly dropped to the ground after leaving the vehicle.
Better limping than burning alive.
>There goes that Polish "support", dumping old rusty stuff into Ukraine
funny you say that
estonia donated D30 arty and the russian press woman said the exact line yet its the same shit the russians use themselves
Russia using old rusty shit is common knowledge, anon.
What's giving the edge to Ukraine is superior modern western equipment and intelligence, not raw inaccurate and short ranged soviet crap.
Getting rid of all BMP-1s would be nice, but what the hell will they be replaced with? I doubt that any NATO country has around 500 modern IFVs just laying around that they can transfer to Poland.
They were already meant to be replaced by domestic designs by 2030 at the latest.
yeah but the change was meant to gradual, for now only a few prototypes of Borsuk IFV were ordered. If Poland dumps all BMPs, BRDMS etc into Ukraine in a short time period it's left with only Rosomaks and like 4 or 5 Borsuk prototypes
Well they'll buy more South Korean vehicles to make up for it and kill the domestic industry in the process.
well the domestic brainstorming maybe, poles want all locally license built and asiatics are more than willing to technology transfer to get a strong foot into europe.
wouldn't suprise me if thats true. all former soviet non-rus aligned are getting rid of their soviet shit in ukraine. 1) looks good and 2) they don't need to get rid of them themselves
its win win situation for them
yeah this totally won't backfire
but we're already struggling with food production without russian gas so I guess its all-in time
I love Poland.
The ukies need fuel en ammo. The west need to come up with something regarding that
That's mainly what Western Europe has been providing, fuel and ammo, but since these are far cheaper than vehicles it doesn't look as impressive on the "who spent the most money on Ukraine" charts pushed by Visegrad24.
That's what the USA has been doing for the past 5 months.
LETS FRICKING GO
We're not on Twitch.
I don't use twitch
>Polish lend-lease
Why does that sound like some new term for carjacking.
Fake and gay, no valid source, we need to wait for Korean and burger shit first
It is not a true lend-lease unless you mobilize.
It's not lend-lease unless you're using your own industry to support a foreign war effort.
That's a donation rather than a lend-lease program.
all of that soviet (now) trash was built off the backs of the collective Eastern Europe, thats where economy went while we were standing in breadlines after every bullshit shift in the bullshit factory.
I'm talking about ACTIVELY producing weapons that you transport to the frontline, outsourcing the MIC.
Dumping reserves you planned on scrapping beforehand is a donation, the US lend lease program had the US MIC actively produce equipment of all sorts for the receiving country in order to consolidate their war effort
The last functional soviet era ammo factories are churning out as much wasaw pact calibre shit for ukies they can, my friend. Practically all soviet era military production facilities have been scrapped and for a reason. We have been busy catching up in quality of life and building actual functional market economy for two decades after 60+ years of pillage.
Half of equipment we sent or are supposed to send were manufactured in Poland. We had big military industry.
>everyone modernizing their military by using Ukraine as a junkyard
This is going to depress scrap metal prices, gypsies will not be happy,