>poland will buy 1000 F35 or F15

>poland will buy 1000 F35 or F15

how mad are they? wats next 2000 swedish A26 subs? 500 USS nimitz? and where comes the money from? germany?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the more you buy the more you save™

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this order would be large enough to overcome the preferential sale price that the US gets, I wonder if they'd get the cost down to $60 mil

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who's gonna collect the denbt from them once they're #1 global firepower?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This anon gets it. It's just money anyway, state will take a loan that it will never going to pay back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      goodone
      knew a guy who had a similar idea

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1000 F35s
    Jesus that's a big order

    Though it does seem to me like Poland plans to just pass pretty much their entire military to Ukraine and just replace it all with new stuff. Maybe they saw how fast old gen stuff is dying and they figure the only way forward is to double down and buy new stuff once. Or they figure that buying all new stuff and passing out the old stuff is cheaper than actually fighting the Russians in the first place.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland will buy 1000 tanks and additional F35 or F15s

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now that makes sense, the only way Poland would pay for 1000 F-15's, let alone 1000 F-35's is by selling freshly conquered Russian gas.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like the idea

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and where comes the money from? germany?
    Absolutely
    Be ready to be assraped by Poland on one side and by migrants on the other side, Hans

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All lands east of the Elbe are rightful Slavic clay. Liberate our Sorbian brothers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sir, you appear to be suffering from a stroke.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Polaks belong to the middle east - fake slavs - leftover germanic tribes mixed with invaders.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It says 1000 tanks and unspecified amount of F35 or F15.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    poles are literally arming up to conquer Puccia once the internal instability plunges the federation in to chaos lol

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Picrel says "poland will buy 1000 TANKS and additional F-35 or F-15", not 1000 jets. Don't get your hopes up, all this new shit is getting expensive without a fighter fleet to rival US navy

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine all those upcoming 15th August parades once we finally get those 1k tanks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      in Moscow
      >red square renamed to white and red square

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More like white and red ball

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol sure, with which money

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tanks will be used as tractors to get EU farm subsidy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germans will pay for it and you know that.
      Poland decided to take over the military aspect of EU

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm calling bullshit, I think this is a case of Polish journalists being just as fucked as western journalists.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      op is retarted, tittle says poland will buy 1000 tanks and unspecifed number of f 35 od f 15

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is just political posturing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, PiS is riding the wartime nationalism as hard as they can. How many of these orders actually go unmolested until delivery...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's why I'm voting PiS in the next elections despite being an indecisive centrist. I am now holding them accountable and want them to actually go through with this investment. Because you just know KO or the lefties will shut it down for one reason or another.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Easy, just vote PiS and let them deal with the problems they create today.
          Just vote PiS.

          I'll be honest. I hate these fuckers like you would not belive, only braunoid nacjozjebists , serbs and actual vatmorons are worse subhumans in my eyes.(yes, that means even razemites, chinese bugmen, moderate headcutters,turks, julki, wykopki, psl, sld, moronest of africans, and literal buttfucking trannies disgust me less). You know how TVP and other PiS controlled media constantly try to paint the entire opposition as blinded seething anti-PiS nutjobs? Well, in my case they are right.
          Their only, singular, redeeming quality is that many of them genuinely hate russia, and rest are following the party line on that matter.
          So, literally single situation where i would consider voting for PiS is if the only other option was confiebraunists or someone else declaring that they will make peace with russia (and no, i dont think POKO or even razemite gays would)
          Other than that - even if only choice was between voting for PiS, and voting for a literal Satan risen from depths of hell declaring that his main election promise is "i gonna put anon in pot of boiling oil for next 50 years and then feed him feet first to pack of rabid rats" - i would still vote against PiS.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Respectable opinion
            The only reason i am even considering voting PiS which i hate as well, is that i hate Tusk almost as much and i do NOT trust him not to go soft on Russia and upend our alliances with US/UK and go suck German cock again

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you hate Braun, check out his most recent "intervention" in Goleniów Town Hall. The mayor was flying a Ukrainian flag from his office window and Braun broke in, threatened people, rushed in his cohorts who are exclusively made up of 70+ retirees and under-20 children to threaten the local staff into letting him in to the mayor's office, stole random keys and tried to break into said office like a gremlin, and sat down looking absolutely pathetic, calling the cops to break in the door (they didn't) and then the fire department (they laughed at him). On his way out he threatened the police chief on the scene by saying he hopes he loses his job and then gave a pathetic "you must do what is right for the country" schooling to the other cops.
            In the end he utterly failed to break into the mayor's office and abused his immunity from prosecution like his father must have abused him. Its a very funny watch

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, PiS is riding the wartime nationalism as hard as they can. How many of these orders actually go unmolested until delivery...

      That's why I'm voting PiS in the next elections despite being an indecisive centrist. I am now holding them accountable and want them to actually go through with this investment. Because you just know KO or the lefties will shut it down for one reason or another.

      Polak from Grzmiszczosławice, Trzcinogrzechotnikowo oblast here,
      While i am obvously happy with army getting new shit, the sheer amount of stuff they are getting combined with political situation - i personally semi supect that PiS now expects to lose the next elections, and they are planning to leave signed contracts as cuckoos egg for PO/KO/p2050 coalition.
      I mean budget is not infinite, and all that cool stuff will need to be paid for.
      And guess what - you need money to pay for shit.
      So the new government will have choice between:

      >cancelling some of the buys
      >WAAAH they are unpatriotic russian agents that want to weaken the country, PiS please return and save us!

      >cancelling some of the rampant wellfare bullshit programs to find money
      >WAAAH they are thieves taking money from the poor children and families! PiS pls return and save us!!!

      >Continue raising taxes
      >WAAH, taxes! They are raising taxes! Also taxes! PiS please returna and save us (lol at idea of pis saving anyone from taxes, but the voters have memory of goldfish so there)

      >Cuts in public sector - schools, hospitals, mines
      >WAAH they are destroying the country heartless fuckers make doctors and teachers and children and sick people suffer! PiS come back and save us!

      >cutting money from gubmint expenses Like TVP agitprop, or orlen media, or gorillion gubmint owned moneywasters and sinecures
      >Lol, as if. Then not only they would be cutting their support base and propaganda appartus. And even if by some miracle they do, then WAAAAAH they are destroying country owned businesses and media! They are goint to turn us into german colony! PiS come back and save us!

      Basically it might be some 9d chess plan by PiS to saddle their succesors with massive white elephant with no course of action that would allow them to avoid backlash.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But I thought that PiS can't lose the election, because Poland is a lawless, authocratic dictatorship?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its not orban or putain level yet.

          For now its simply a majority rule of disciplined morons led by mix of opportunists and genuine ideologically motivated nutjobs. Their supermajority allowed them to push some shady authoritarian shit. But at ist core its stilll a democracy, even if weakened one.

          Sure, they will spew propaganda 24/7, buy out voters with more wellfare promises, etc - But i genuinely doubt they would go as far as actually faking the elections or trying to cancel unfavourable results by some legal loopholes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Easy, just vote PiS and let them deal with the problems they create today.
        Just vote PiS.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I actually don't think that they'll lose the elections. Never underestimate the ability of the opposition to fuck up the simplest thing. They have been consistently outmaneuvered by Kaczyński for the last 7 years.

        And as to where the money will come from - Kaczyński actually spent the last year working on a bill that excluded military spending from the constitutional debt limit of 55% GDP. So should the new coalition government come into power, they won't have that big of a problem with debt limits. Of course if they want to keep spending on the military. And I'm not sure that they do.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They have been consistently outmaneuvered by Kaczyński for the last 7 years.
          Kaczyński's keeps winning by doing absolutely nothing, because opposition just torpedoes themselves.
          And to be fair, as much as I dislike PiS, I am actually considering voting for them out of spite, because with them I at least know what I'm getting into.
          I have no fucking idea what Tusk is planning and what is his deal. If I vote for him, will I get that gay Biedroń and commie Zandberg as a package deal? What's his political program, outside of "PiS bad"? Because "we'll do the opposite to what PiS does" doesn't strike me as a strong sell.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I have no fucking idea what Tusk is planning and what is his deal
            torpedo all alliances with US/UK and start sucking german cock again
            as much as i hate PiS i deeply support the alliance with the US, fuck germans

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lodzkie vovoideship reporting in
        Honestly at this point PiS is so shit with economics and have revealed themselves to be worse socialists than the left the ONLY thing that has me hesitating on voting for the eternal germ cuck rat of Dönald Tösktt. Is the fact that PO haven't openly came out and stated
        >we will buy EVEN more weapons for our military than PiS and we will push to cuck Russia EVEN HARDER
        Their lefty kumbaya LGBT-Migrant bullshit is a hard pill enough to swallow, i can't vote for a party that might cuck us out of arms deals with a war knocking on our doorstep because muh NATO will save us.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but I think that reason alone is enough to give PiS at least a few more years. Pretty much no one else even acknowledges doing anything about the Russian question floundering around Eastern Ukraine and vatniks seem to have no intentions of stopping anytime soon, and if state media was anything to go by were pretty on the nose with Ukraine being just the beginning like its 1920 all over again or some shit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah honestly, i fucking hate PiS and their corrupt socialist bullshit. But their dislike of lefty ideology and being basically the ONLY party that i trust that will actually keep preparing for the inevitable Russian fuckery is making me heavily consider voting for them for the first time ever.
            The opposition is spineless as ever and their election campaign is basically "we don't have any strategic plan for poland at all but look here's Tusk and he's not PiS, and PiS bad okay? Please vote"

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The opposition is spineless as ever and their election campaign is basically "we don't have any strategic plan for poland at all but look here's Tusk and he's not PiS, and PiS bad okay? Please vote
              I think in one the recent meetings with populace, some random woman asked Tusk "can you name one thing that you agree on with PiS? Is there one thing you think they are doing right?".
              And then he goes on a tirade that he won't participate in moral relativism and everything PiS does is evil. If there is one way to have a nice day in the foot by alienating the centrists, that's the way to do it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Its just yet another rock and a hard place for Poland. PiS can go suck a dick but at the same time they’re the only ones who even acknowledge the fact there is a literal existential threat going on just east of the border, which is honestly pretty baffling. You’d think a full Russian mobilization that still managed to get as far as Kiev before getting routed would get everyone in Poland to at least agree on the fact that such a thing is pretty goddamn concerning. Either way IMO for as shit as they may be this is a gamble you really don’t want to take, on both ignoring Russia and for whatever retarded reason cutting close ties with the US and Britain that some mental midgets seem so gung ho on doing.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you not read brainlet.
    "Poland will buy 1000 ta ks and additional f35s or f15s"

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even 100 F-35s would be a lot for them.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Renewed Russian aggression towards their neighbors has the Poles seriously resurrecting the idea of the Intermarium, would 1000% be surprised if Germans, Americans, and British wouldn't be supportive behind closed doors.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Intermarium
      I could not even fucking imagine the seethe if this were to happen and Russia still has not somehow collapsed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Three Seas Initiative.
      Ukraine joined last month.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >would 1000% be surprised if Germans, Americans, and British wouldn't be supportive behind closed doors.
      British are Americans are actually very openly supportive. Germans... nit so much. They would prefer Eastern Europe be their source of cheap labour and not a superpower.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >British are Americans are actually very openly supportive. Germans... nit so much.
        We pay for it, what else do you want? Germany also offered Leo2 to Poland, every 18 days one, for the next decade. Poland declined.
        >They would prefer Eastern Europe be their source of cheap labour and not a superpower.
        Why can't they just be happy with Poland as a superpower? Right? Right?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Germany also offered Leo2 to Poland, every 18 days one, for the next decade. Poland declined.
          You offered a handful of ancient, barely functional tanks that are only good for spare parts, while at the same time US offered 110+ M1A1s basically for free.
          You know where you can shove that offer?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm talking about new Leo2 from the factory offered. 22 a year, means every 18 days or so one.
            Getting used Leo2 means they would have to undo the specific secret Bundeswehr sauce first, also we wouldn't be able to fulfill our commitment to NATO if we gave the stuff away right now.
            Like i told, der ewige Pole.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm talking about new Leo2 from the factory offered.
              That was never in the talks. And even if it were, we can't wait till 2045, till Germany finally gets their shit together and delivers us those tanks. Not when there are way better offers on the table.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm talking about new Leo2 from the factory offered. 22 a year, means every 18 days or so one.
              worse korea will deliver 100 K2 in 2022 alone,
              additionaly they don't support russia
              get rekt

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >worse korea will deliver 100 K2 in 2022 alone
                I doubt it. But well done if true. A strong Poland is in everyone's interest right now. Well, except for Belarus and Russia. >:^)
                >additionaly they don't support russia
                Neither does Germany.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >We pay for it
          Babies first step into economics is it?
          >Exploit cheap labour and market to make money at the expense of poles
          >Expect to give nothing in return
          Typical German honestly

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >eternally try and cuck Poland on everything you can
          >try and turn it into your cheap labor fiefdom
          >constantly offer shitty deals
          >even when you offer a good deal it comes with so many strings attached Poland can't benefit from it anyway
          Poles don't want our stuff that would make them even more reliant on us after we have proved ourselves to be the most unreliable country in the Union?? THE ETERNAL POLE I SWEAR TO GOTT!!!
          The eternal germ has revealed himself once again

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poland and Ukraine need to defend Thier borders with china

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck are they affording this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If there only was a economic powerhouse nearby that could pay for it easily ...

      That's why I'm voting PiS in the next elections despite being an indecisive centrist. I am now holding them accountable and want them to actually go through with this investment. Because you just know KO or the lefties will shut it down for one reason or another.

      Fair enough. Of course you'll have to leave your civil liberty for that. Not talking about abortions and gay marriage, but the real Taliban stuff. Like the idea for women always wearing a headscarf. Not going to be implemented i think, but it shows the direction. Also nice was the "no female teachers" one and only Catholics in public offices. Only in PiS times bubble such ideas to the top.
      If there is one thing i have learned during the short Social Democrats and Greens rule around here, they are as militaristic as the right wing, if they have to, just not as Taliban.
      Have to admit it, i thought Scholz was a irredeemable lefty retard, but he came around quickly, went from "Nie wieder Krieg" to "Am Deutschen Waffenwesen, soll die Welt genesen" in 6 month. Not even the Union had the balls.

      I actually wonder how polacks will pay for their military shopping spree.
      I mean they rely heavily on EU gibs and are among the beggar countries of Europe. Not as bad as others, but far from being a net contributor like Germany.
      So I guess at the end it'll be as usual: Poland buys and the richer EU nations will have to foot the bill via tax money.
      >Poland stronk
      >Poland don't need no EU to help them

      I don't think it's a problem that Germany will pay for it, the voters are interested in a Poland that looks strong to the east and will be able to pull it's weight once China happens, but what isn't appreciated in Germany at all, is them posing as a superpower and saying Germany doesn't help. Einmal wird unsere Geduld ein Ende finden.
      Anyway, Slovakia is getting more German troops it seems.
      Lithuania's battle group was puffed up from 5k to 15k Germans too.
      We are getting there. If Putin loses control and strongarms Belarus into attempting something, they achieve nothing but a bloody nose and a broken spine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Einmal wird unsere Geduld ein Ende finden.
        It's
        >Einmal wird unsere Geduld am Ende sein
        but otherwise you're spot on

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Committed to long term memory, cheers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If there only was a economic powerhouse nearby that could pay for it easily
        If you believe anyone in the EU is going to carry the Polish military budget for free, you should quit drugs.
        This is posturing, Poland tries to paint the best picture of itself it can using nationalism, hatred for Russians and the current trend of militarism. It's all very expensive good boy points.
        Wait until the order is cut down under the excuse of "well Russia lost most of its armors so we don't need as much anymore, thanks anyway SK".
        The Polish army is already understaffed, how to man all these vehicles ? Will you be like the Arab armies during the cold war with only 2 tank crews for 3 tanks ?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why buy modern equipment if you can't man all the old equipment!
          That's why we can't have a lot of shit equipment and compensate for how shit it is by numbers, we can't man that many, we need small amounts of very powerful modern equipment to serve as a force multiplier since we do not have the numbers you fucking idiot?
          AKA we are going the same direction NATO has been going for a while???

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The larger the contract, the bigger the bribe.
            You don't draft, read, negotiate, change and reread contracts of such magnitude and volume with the Koreans over the course of two weeks. PiS take what they can in the little time they have left in office.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and where comes the money from? germany?
    Why does every single vatnoid concern troll use the exact same line? They've just said they are prepared to double their defense spending as a % of GDP, 24 billion USD can buy you a lot of cool stuff.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I actually wonder how polacks will pay for their military shopping spree.
    I mean they rely heavily on EU gibs and are among the beggar countries of Europe. Not as bad as others, but far from being a net contributor like Germany.
    So I guess at the end it'll be as usual: Poland buys and the richer EU nations will have to foot the bill via tax money.
    >Poland stronk
    >Poland don't need no EU to help them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i dont see a problem

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany is outsourcing it's defense to Poland. Their military is a joke anyway. Might as well pay for your defense

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably just bullshitting. Creating the image of military strength, possibly to pander for popular support. Or to project strength to Russia. Both? Guaranteed that legit orders are going to be massively scaled down lol.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For a garbage plane F35 sure sells a lot.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kupi
    >lub

    Polish is a funny language

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's so funny about that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not Zimna wódka
        >not Wielki dół

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, too obvious.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know about the legendary Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well the polacks are the biggest EU leeches.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are legit arming for an invasion of Belarus, gonna secure that buffer zone before Russia inevitably annexes Belarus.

    • 2 weeks ago
      /out/ie

      Doubt.
      They would lose Article 5, wouldn't they?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and where comes the money from? germany?
    no they finance it with their massive amounts of exports and their strong indust- just kidding it's Germany.

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