Platoon Designated Marksman>Squad Designated Marksman

Since the advent of ACOG's, the Army as stupid as it is has diminished the role of the DM for a long time now. My autistic proposal here to you fellow autists is to replace the concept of an SDM with that of a PDM or platoon designated marksman. i.e.:
>A soldier who is more experienced
>Has marksmanship training so he can actually dope as scope
>Has high powered rifle that can outrange service rifles for long range precision fires
>Takes initiative by deciding how to maneuver within the scheme of maneuver of a platoon to best position himself to cover and or reconnoiter for the platoon
>This can be done at the PL's discretion as well (especially for forward reconnaissance to avoid blue on blue)
>Focuses entirely on precision fire during engagements trying to target high value targets such as enemy MG's RTO's and guys who look like leader, if no HVT present themselves, then he focuses on simply engaging accurately rather than wildly like the typical rifleman
>inb4 meme magnum rifle with super duper quickscope capabilities

That shit is nice when in a static position but I doubt will serve any use for fleeting targets, anyways; what does /k/ think of that? Bringing back the DM role wile also making it actually useful beyond just some rifleman with a high powered acog Kentucky windaging opium farmers 500 meters away.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How 'bout Sniper School opens up the tap a little bit and DTS guys get their heads out of their asses.
    But really there's just a manning problem when it comes to SDMs.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You’re the same gay who made the sniper thread.
    Here’s a better idea:
    >integrate drone operator with mortar team
    >you can now observe a much larger area from a much greater distance
    >mortars + grenade drops have far greater combat effect than a sniper
    Enough with your masturbatory muh sniper shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      wrong and wrong. Drones aren't a god tool as well. I also don't understand why in every fricking thread day after day, the only thing morons like you can talk about is drone footage from Ukraine where they drop a grenade on a dude who already looks injured to begin with. I wouldn't doubt it if it came out that drone kills in total didn't even amount to being 1% of casualties in the war.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        sneed.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The spotting ability of the drone alone is changing everything. The automatic grenade launchers for example

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming the XM7 goes anywhere pretty sure those are gonna be used as DMRs

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >t. Pog or worse a Civillian with no grunt xp

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      sneed.

      >t. 16 year old's first week shitposting on /k/

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I see so you are a kid no wonder you have these derp sniper fantasies. Go back to your vidya zoomie

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >literally zero argument
          >shitposting over nothing
          >ad hom to avoid the non argument that you created
          anon...It's time to stop posting and go to bed.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Thread itself is a shitpost and ignorant
            >Anyone whose a grunt now already knows we use DMRs

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >DMR == SDM nice
              >role of the SDM has fallen to the wayside and is barely used platoon to platoon
              >thank me for my service.wav

              Go the frick away.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >role of the SDM has fallen to the wayside and is barely used platoon to platoon
                yeah i uhh wonder why?
                dont you have tarkov to play or something you spaz, this is a godawful thread

                Yeah man that exists and it's called the fricking sniper section in HHC. If LT Weenie wants precision fire for his mission he can request them just like everyone else.
                If that doesn't satisfy you then remember that the SDMRs have 7.62 rifles with wind dots and mil reticles, and are perfectly capable of doing all the shit you described as long as they're trained correctly, out to 600m or beyond depending on their range time and fundamentals.

                they arent cool enough for this kid i guess

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Go to sleep amon you have school

                Platoons are too understrength for that. If there is a DM, you would either be taking him from one of the squads or he'd be an external attachment. Taking him from a squad isn't viable because they're already always understrength, and external attachment is never guaranteed. Having ab integral DM would just end up with being assigned to one of the squads rather than functioning as a DM.

                This guy gets it

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah man that exists and it's called the fricking sniper section in HHC. If LT Weenie wants precision fire for his mission he can request them just like everyone else.
    If that doesn't satisfy you then remember that the SDMRs have 7.62 rifles with wind dots and mil reticles, and are perfectly capable of doing all the shit you described as long as they're trained correctly, out to 600m or beyond depending on their range time and fundamentals.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >tasking the sniper section to a platoon is the same as having one permanently
      can't imagine being this dumb

      Platoons are too understrength for that. If there is a DM, you would either be taking him from one of the squads or he'd be an external attachment. Taking him from a squad isn't viable because they're already always understrength, and external attachment is never guaranteed. Having ab integral DM would just end up with being assigned to one of the squads rather than functioning as a DM.

      You have completely missed the concept. This is a new role, the whole point is that he is not apart of a squad but probably found in the plt hq.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Get fricked, you already have between 2 and 4 DMRs in the platoon anyway. What the frick does your magical platoon DMR do that they don't? What does he do in a mission that an attached sniper couldn't do better? Why the hell would the HQ section need to pull more dudes from the line? To make the PL feel like a coolguy with a bodyguard?
        Frick outta here.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >You have completely missed the concept. This is a new role, the whole point is that he is not apart of a squad but probably found in the plt hq.

        No, I didn't "miss" the concept. You don't understand how shit works. If there is an extra dude in the PLT HQ he's just gonna get used as an extra rifleman.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Platoons are too understrength for that. If there is a DM, you would either be taking him from one of the squads or he'd be an external attachment. Taking him from a squad isn't viable because they're already always understrength, and external attachment is never guaranteed. Having ab integral DM would just end up with being assigned to one of the squads rather than functioning as a DM.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >A soldier who is more experienced
    You want this soldier as an NCO, not as a fricking dude with a slightly longer peashooter.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point of snipers when we have drones and artillery?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >can enter areas others (like the BN scouts who are busy doing screen lines) can't
      >can provide continuous on the ground live reconnaissance and surveillance for days at a time
      >can see shit a drone can't
      >can frick up key personnel without anyone knowing where the fire is coming from, causing disruptions to enemy OODA
      >can accurately give corrections and BDA for artillery from vantage points the FIST team won't be able to reach due to being needed elsewhere and without being spotted
      And so on.

      Unnecessary. The new 4x scope is just that good that you can hit anything with the M4

      Here's a (You).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because you still gotta shoot people and it's handy to do that with more precision sometimes.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Unnecessary. The new 4x scope is just that good that you can hit anything with the M4

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Sdm pp poopoo kaka mdm nco acog pl rto hiv hvt hhr abc dm

    cool post OP.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A platoon DM seems dumb. That's too much range to cover, to make use of them you'd have to have them flying all over an AO constantly. The role of a DM is to enhance unit capabilities by being able to engage targets beyond the range of conventional infantry, in other words, at the very far edges of an engagement. To do that though, the DM needs to be on that edge of that portion of the engagement, they can't be everywhere at once, so the only solution then is DMs at the squad level.

    Your use case is far more similar to that of a sniper than a DM.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Squads DM's with a rifle that shares ammunition with the squad, something like mk12, are ideal. Platoons with snipers with a rifle that shares ammo with the HMG are ideal. Your idea is bad and dumb, just like the m14.

      He would essentially operate in a similar manner to the scout role within infantry squads back in WWII. You have your own personal precision fire SBF support and a forward reconnaissance asset without needing to send out fireteams or squads.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the scout role within infantry squads back in WWII. You have your own personal precision fire SBF support and a forward reconnaissance asset without needing to send out fireteams or squads
        I'm really not seeing what you'd get out of this that you wouldn't already have from dedicated recon assets or just your infantry in general. Getting eyes on shit and dialing in fire support is normal grunt work.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Squads DM's with a rifle that shares ammunition with the squad, something like mk12, are ideal. Platoons with snipers with a rifle that shares ammo with the HMG are ideal. Your idea is bad and dumb, just like the m14.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >platoon level asset with...another rifle. gay!
    Here's a better idea: platoon RTO gets 4x semi-autonomous kamikaze drones to fire and maneuver directly over hills, across ravines and into the faces of the enemy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The RTO is too busy monitoring comms and relaying orders

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        With modern two-channel comms he's not needed anymore since the PL and platoon sgt do that. Instead of getting rid of the RTO role make him the designated drone operator.

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