Sweden only has a couple of Gripen A/Bs left that were built to old Swedish aviation standards.
Gripen C/D that forms the majority of their Gripen fleet nowadays, was built to be NATO compliant.
Saab partnered with BAE in order to ensure its HUD, navigation systems, comms weapon data bus and everything could be compatible with NATO systems and, South Africans were involved in designing new pylons for it to carry export weapons.
Gripen has probably been qualified with a wider range of NATO-compatible munitions than any other 4th gen aircraft.
Half of the Gripen - engine, ejector seat, radar etc - is already American or British. And it's compatible with NATO weapons, since it was also intended to be exported to Western-aligned nations. The Czechs and Hungarians operate Gripens, for example.
Sweden is a partner in Meteor. They could ensure compatibility even without NATO standardisation.
Similarly they used the AIM-120B even on the non-NATO standard JAS-39A but don't have the ability to employ mid-course updates and other features of AMRAAM that require Link 16.
JAS-39C can use these features as well as later variants of AMRAAM such as AIM-120C-5, though AFAIK it's currently only export customers using AIM-120C, while Sweden uses Meteor alongside AIM-120B
>AFAIK it's currently only export customers using AIM-120C, while Sweden uses Meteor alongside AIM-120B
Correct, but last year the Swedish Air Force signed an order for an unspecified AIM-120C variant.
Yeah I looked through some photos because the front landing gear doors on this one is also unusual for a Gripen A, C or E.
Turns out it's the twin-seat development airframe 39-7 which was built as a Gripen B, converted to Gripen D and then was the first Gripen NG demonstrator since 2010, including IRST trials from 2014.
So it's a unique aircraft so far as Gripens go. I don't think any Gripen Fs have been rolled out of the production line yet to compare how different they are to the Gripen NG demonstrator
You are well informed fellow Gripen-autist, what became 39-7 was originally 39803 (all two seaters start with 800-serial, a carry over from the Draken days) No Gripen F has been rolled out, none has even started construction yet.
I know Gripen has done a lot of war games against western jet and has had some pretty impressive performance but has it done any war games against Russian jets and their Chinese offspring and how did it go?
I have a vague memory seeing a commercial long ago where they were advertising Gripen as some Su-35 killer, that's pretty ballsy.
>I have a vague memory seeing a commercial long ago where they were advertising Gripen as some Su-35 killer, that's pretty ballsy.
That was some pajeet tier youtube video and nothing Saab was involved in. But to answer your question, Thai Gripen pilots has trained with/against what I belive was Malaysian Su-30s.
That said, if you manage to rack up kills against NATO aircraft in training, it will probably shit all over whatever Russia has.
>if you manage to rack up kills against NATO aircraft in training, it will probably shit all over whatever Russia has.
this
but you wont know for sure until you do it for real
dont be expecting any dogfight videos coming out of ukraine tho from either gripens of f16s, it's all going to be BVR missile slinging gayness that the russians will blame friendly fire on anyways
F-2 from Japan
They were able to run NATO pylons since near the beginning OP.
>Now
Sweden has been pretty much NATO compliant since before you were born, Anon. They're just making it official now.
Sweden is more NATO than most NATO countries.
The Gripen was designed to be interoperable with NATO systems, as are all modern acquisitions by them and Finland
Sweden only has a couple of Gripen A/Bs left that were built to old Swedish aviation standards.
Gripen C/D that forms the majority of their Gripen fleet nowadays, was built to be NATO compliant.
Saab partnered with BAE in order to ensure its HUD, navigation systems, comms weapon data bus and everything could be compatible with NATO systems and, South Africans were involved in designing new pylons for it to carry export weapons.
Gripen has probably been qualified with a wider range of NATO-compatible munitions than any other 4th gen aircraft.
>Sweden only has a couple of Gripen A/Bs left that were built to old Swedish aviation standards.
All retired or converted to C/Ds by 2014
Far more NATO integrated then most Euro air forces east of Germany, how else do you think we have hosted massive NATO air exercizes for years by now
t. Gripen mechanic for 5 years
thats cool, have you worked on the E variant?
Yes, but only a little, I mainly did work on C/Ds
Half of the Gripen - engine, ejector seat, radar etc - is already American or British. And it's compatible with NATO weapons, since it was also intended to be exported to Western-aligned nations. The Czechs and Hungarians operate Gripens, for example.
I'd ask what bloody missiles you though the Swedish air force was using, but let's face it, we all know you simply haven't thought that far.
Sweden is a partner in Meteor. They could ensure compatibility even without NATO standardisation.
Similarly they used the AIM-120B even on the non-NATO standard JAS-39A but don't have the ability to employ mid-course updates and other features of AMRAAM that require Link 16.
JAS-39C can use these features as well as later variants of AMRAAM such as AIM-120C-5, though AFAIK it's currently only export customers using AIM-120C, while Sweden uses Meteor alongside AIM-120B
>AFAIK it's currently only export customers using AIM-120C, while Sweden uses Meteor alongside AIM-120B
Correct, but last year the Swedish Air Force signed an order for an unspecified AIM-120C variant.
I'm really curious as to how they will use their Gripens.
I thought Gripen E only had a single nose wheel?
meds now
Correct, but some of the really early pre-production aircraft got the old twin
Yeah I looked through some photos because the front landing gear doors on this one is also unusual for a Gripen A, C or E.
Turns out it's the twin-seat development airframe 39-7 which was built as a Gripen B, converted to Gripen D and then was the first Gripen NG demonstrator since 2010, including IRST trials from 2014.
So it's a unique aircraft so far as Gripens go. I don't think any Gripen Fs have been rolled out of the production line yet to compare how different they are to the Gripen NG demonstrator
You are well informed fellow Gripen-autist, what became 39-7 was originally 39803 (all two seaters start with 800-serial, a carry over from the Draken days) No Gripen F has been rolled out, none has even started construction yet.
I know Gripen has done a lot of war games against western jet and has had some pretty impressive performance but has it done any war games against Russian jets and their Chinese offspring and how did it go?
I have a vague memory seeing a commercial long ago where they were advertising Gripen as some Su-35 killer, that's pretty ballsy.
>I have a vague memory seeing a commercial long ago where they were advertising Gripen as some Su-35 killer, that's pretty ballsy.
That was some pajeet tier youtube video and nothing Saab was involved in. But to answer your question, Thai Gripen pilots has trained with/against what I belive was Malaysian Su-30s.
That said, if you manage to rack up kills against NATO aircraft in training, it will probably shit all over whatever Russia has.
>if you manage to rack up kills against NATO aircraft in training, it will probably shit all over whatever Russia has.
this
but you wont know for sure until you do it for real
dont be expecting any dogfight videos coming out of ukraine tho from either gripens of f16s, it's all going to be BVR missile slinging gayness that the russians will blame friendly fire on anyways
The Thai and Chinese went sparring once, IIRC Sukhoi ruled the dogfights and Gripen BVR.
I love this little shitbox like you wouldn't believe. It really is the scrappy underdog of the fighter world, both in terms of sales and doctrine
While on the subject, is it just me/a trick of the perspective here, or does the nose on the E droop a bit compared to the earlier ones?
Correct but its minimal, it has to do with the installation of the new radar