It is 1986 and the Cold War kicks off, you are an Infantryman in the US Army and after months of hard fighting it finally comes time to clear out Berlin. During your time on the front line you managed to capture an East German paratroopers MPI AKS-74N and associated equipment, the question is do you use your M16A2 to clear out the Urban hellscape that is the old Soviet block apartment buildings or do you use the shorter more maneuverable AK.
I'l stay with the M16A2. Probably not the most popular take, but i will stay with the less-optimal weapon for sake of uniformity and familiarity with the weapon system. Picking up enemy gear is not generally advisable as it might be boobytrapped and it might make you prone to 'friendly' fire. Back in Fallujah the marines had to make some creative alterations to how they normally used their rifles while clearing houses, but they managed.
Give me a G3.
Based
>ptr
El oh el
I probably use the M16, because my issued pouches fit M16 mags. Sure the AK74 might be more suitable for the immediate circumstances, but if I carry that then I've got to lug around the M16 as well so its just an added burden either way.
You don't have to carry the M16 with you it's just one or the other and you captured an East German chest rig off the dead guy.
>East German chest rig
homie are you trying to commit suicide by friendly fire here?
I ship the ak 74 back home in pieces.
only proper answer ITT. If your grandchildren don't inherit an entire VDV squad's worth of weapons was it really worth it all?
>after months of hard fighting
Trick question, I am hallucinating triumphantly clearing Berlin as I drift in and out of consciousness 14 hours after the start of WW3, dying from ARS in the ruins of some remote farm house in what remains of Germany.
I pick the M16 which is shooting out eagles and lazer beams for some reason.
The A2 every day. Wire stock cheek welds are unbelievably cancerous.
Yeah, I was between the East German wire folder and a Russian triangle folder kinda wish I went with the latter for this scenario.
what kind of stupid question is this
you stick with the gun that your side uses rather than the one the enemy uses
That's not how things work in my video games. I get to choose what gear I use instead of licking the boots of some moron general who thinks they know whats' best for me
It could be a life or death decision not to take the weapon that's a little more optimal for the scenario you're in.
Yeah having logistics compatibility, operating familiarity (assuming I am a US soldier in 1986), being the rifle which won't get me chewed out by my superiors, and not having a muzzle report which will get me mistaken for an enemy combatant isn't a "little more optimal", it's fricking a lot more optimal
Your scenario is dogshit anon. There's a "correct" answer and an "I am a dribbling moron" answer, it's not a matter of opinion.
I’ll take the M16 just to make sure I don’t get hit by friendly fire
5.45 has no advantage over 5.56 and you're risking fratricide by using the enemy's weapon.
>It is a little shorter for room clearing
Considering it is 1980s the M3 grease gun is still available.
>Considering it is 1980s the M3 grease gun is still available.
and 45 aarp won't destroy your hearing like 223 in a room will
>and 45 aarp won't destroy your hearing like 223 in a room will
It'll still give you a day-long deafness and a week-long EEEEEEEEEE
>dipshit buddy ND'd his 1911 right next to me in the drinking shed
>Drinking shed
Hell yeah. Wish I had one of those.
Here's the trick: it's just a normal shed with normal shed things, a window, and a heater
It's none of her damn business what goes on in there. Picrel
is that deer ok?
>drinking shed
is that what you tell the wife goes on in there?
>and 45 aarp won't destroy your hearing like 223 in a room will
It's not going to be making you deaf and neither will 5.56.
Using a captured weapon is rarely a good idea.
Anyways, the stock-extended AKS-74 is only 2 inches shorter than an M16A2, so no real difference in maneuverability.
The wire stock AKs are better tanker weapons though.
Really? Warsaw length stocks are more than an inch and a half shorter than the A2 stock is, plus the 4 inch barrel difference.
Literally go look up the overall length for both.
This scenario is beyond moronic. Using captured enemy equipment is only viable if
>your country has captured enough arms and ammo to keep you supplied and is willing to do so
>you're only using it extremely temporarily and can keep replenishing ammo off dead enemies
>enemy supplies keep coming in while friendly supplies are not and yoi can reliably replenish from captured supplies or dead enemies
You're opening yourself up to friendly fire and if you're too unfamiliar with the system you're in for a world of hurt when the weapon malfunctions and/or when you need to clean it
The russians have been boobytrapping dropped magazines with toepopper mines in Ukraine for example, because both sides use AKs it's tempting for the Ukrainians to pick these up and they get their fingers blown clean off if they decide to pick them up
AK74 is a better gun
but the ridiculous way you framed this question belongs in >>>PrepHole or >>>/tg/
Hmmmmmmm...Now where have I seen 20 inch M16s being used in brutal urban hellscapes, before?
Hmmmmmmmm
Yet they were totally replaced by M4s. People cleared rooms with M1 Garands, it doesn’t make them the best choice for it.
The choice is between an m16a2 and some piece of shit homosexual wire stock AK LITERAL TRASH.
Try to stay on topic.
M16. That AK wire stock are garbage.
I'd just use the one I'm more familiar with, all that shit like weight and length are going to make so little difference as to be nullified by having endless training on the other gun, unless you're a gun fanatic who has used both types extensively. Send the AK home as a keepsake, use the M16.
No chance of calling in some fire support instead? Give them a salvo of artillery before moving in? That'll make more difference than a shorter gun.
People who obsess over room clearing tactics are the lamest most pathetic looser on the internet, more pathetic than freaks that cum on toys in jars or stick pencils up their dicks
frick you Op get your gay ass video game brain outa here
the only people who would ever choose a rifle with a folding wire stock are certified noguns
I've never had any issues with my tantal, is there something significantly worse about the other wire stocks?
put a real stock on it and you'll know
>t. tantal owner
Frankly if we're talking about brutal urban fighting and clearing buildings room-by-room in Berlin then I'm much less concerned about my rifle choice than I am about securing a large and steady supply of grenades to fling around corners and through doorways; sheltering civilians be damned
In 1986 a US Army Infantrymen would almost certainly be rocking an M16A1. The Army had only recently adopted the M16A2 and most units would still have the A1 into the early 1990s.
Also sound was very important in target recognition back then since radios weren't as widespread as they are today. Using an enemy weapon would put you at higher risk of getting killed by your own side.
MP5
>what abou-
MP5
>but-
MP5
I will not elaborate
>MP5
>against flak jackets
Ooooooooooooooof
>doesn't train to only make headshots
Never gonna unlock all the camo's. Sad
>not rocking the skorpion
Hardcore mode is a completely different mode
>AK with rapid fire
I've had people accuse me of hacking.
It just now occurred to me that there's an alternate timeline where WW3 popped off and rear echelon dudes would've been using skorpions to fight off breakthroughs of guys with actual rifles. Kindakek
M16A2. The only time that you should pick up enemy weapons is that you are completely out of ammunition, at the time plate armor wasn't a concern so dumping a lot of rounds center mass wasn't needed, and 3 round burst is unjustly hated due to (ironically) lack of training.
FAL
>Not using heck of a shotgun to clear rooms in Berlin like it's 1945
Time is a flat circle
MP5 or barring that as Uzi. SMGs would be ideal.
Your scenario is clearly weighted in the M16's favor. Let's do one without the worry of friendly fire and ammo availability.
East German AK74 or M16A2 in a cave fight against Goblin Slayer-type goblins? You get a basic combat load, Cold War period correct webbing, and a bayonet for both.
M14
Para FAL.
It's sex. No other reason.
>1980s Cold War scenario
/qa/ won