Apparently near Chervonopopivka in the Kreminna axis. Seems like Russia has basically zero offensive capabilities left. Doesn't mean they can't defend though
Photo from Russian suprise offensive in Kreminna
Apparently near Chervonopopivka in the Kreminna axis. Seems like Russia has basically zero offensive capabilities left. Doesn't mean they can't defend though
Those are Ukrainian tanks
sorry you all got killed vatnik pidors no refunds
>Those are Ukrainian tanks
>picture of BTR-As and various post-soviet T-series tanks
>no cross ID markers
VatBlack person, please
That is Belogorod actually
they're not abrams with cia markings, himars or f22 raptors so no, they're russian.
Nah, too many pixels for that.
>enters thread of any destroyed vehicles and/or dead soldiers
>"those are hohols"
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
one of my favourite trolling techniques of this war
Not commenting on the photo since I don’t know what I’m looking at, but if Russia was smart they just dedicate their forces to purely defense and ride it out. Their second line trench network is legitimately impressive
>but if Russia was smart
good thing they aren't smart
>but if Russia was smart they just dedicate their forces to purely defense and ride it out
They should have done this since Kherson/Karkiv/mobilization. They'd be in a far better position now if they'd not nothing, but that basically applies to every mode they've made the whole way along.
If they'd just done that right from the start (reinforced crimea and the meme republics but didn't push into any other territory) they'd be doing great
Yes, but T-I-G-E-R-S
>Footage of the 25th airborne brigade has been geolocated to the area west of Chervonopopivka in the Kreminna axis. An armored assault group that tried to attack Ukrainian positions was discovered, targeted and destroyed. Ukrainian defenders were prepared.
That's a fricking hellscape right there
webum
>That tank rapid disassembly
Make fun of Leos all you want but at least they remain relatively intact when hit sp the crew can bail instead of the shit Russian tanks do.
Those look suspiciously like Ukrainian T-64BVs....
you can clearly see the Zs painted on them zigger-chan
Front tank obviously has the big kontakt-5 blocks of a T72b3 or T90A. None have the single wedge shaped piece of a T64bv's turret where the kontak-1 is mounted.
Imagine getting duped by tanks lost months ago during Russian Vuhledar offensive.
>gets called out for trying to lie once
>comes back with more well poisoning dogshit
>w-well they're actually russian tanks b-bu-
shut it Black person
still doesn't match
well apart of angle change there is some fresh grass that ops picture has - but lost hardware sits in the same positions in both - turret positions make it easy to spot.
>1 T-72AV
>1 T-90A
>1 T-72B3
>Z's painted on them
>"Hmn... Ukrainian tanks"
have a nice day.
w-why are they mixing 3 fricking different mbts in one unit?
Russians (Ukrainians also do it sometimes)
Are you sure that's not the result of the last attack on Bakhmut?
>Black person keeps seething after his other thread got deleted
Yawn
>Reports threads with fresh battlefield material
>Posts in thread trying to present 3+ month old Russian losses as new
What did they mean by this?
it's about the method, not the content, Black person, thus why your thread was up at first until it got shitstormed because it wasn't the uberfailure you wanted to sell
>clearly looks different
bye
Turret tossers, oh how I missed thee
so this happens, and it's basically crickets. Meanwhile, vatniks blow up one fricking tank and we got spammed with it for 2 weeks. Really shows the state of things
In reality it shows the difference between humans and subhumans
TURRET TOSS HOORAY!
Am I the only one noticing the hundreds of arty craters in the general vicinity?
That's one corner of the war with lots of action.
Jesus Christ your chances of surviving are so slim in those Russian vehicles.
Y'know, the Leo and Abrams could be shooting marshmallows and have the top speed of a paralyzed sloth and I'd STILL pick them over any of the T-models. I'd rather live through my tank getting killed rather then getting the Ford Pinto Experience in a crockpot with tracks.
>the Ford Pinto Experience in a crockpot with tracks.
zBlack person bros.. this cant be happening.. post the other angle
>Not commenting on the photo since I don’t know what I’m looking at, but if Russia was smart they just dedicate their forces to purely defense and ride it out.
That's what they were doing. Active defense to tie up the enemy.
Ukraine's biggest mistake was giving the Russians breathing room after their own Kharkiv/Kherson offensives ran out of steam.
Now they're going to have to pay heavily with lives and lots of NATO gear to reclaim every village.
Certainly would've been good to be able to follow up but the Ukrainians could not really generate the force it needed to conduct breakthroughs at that point.
>pay heavily
May we see it? Because one company-size attack out of a multi-brigade action suffeirng some lost and damaged vehicles? That ain't heavy losses by anything remotely approaching a sane definition.
Not to mention the ukrainians keep killing Russians in lopsided numbers even in those engagements.
Also, active defense doesn't work when you throw ill-coordinated frontal "counterattacks" at the enemy to get chewed up without even requiring them to move any reserves.
I think he's talking about the fact that Ukraine let Russia spend several months building up defensive lines compared to a Zaporizhia that was probably closer defended to Kharkiv beforehand
A light winter followed by wet season
Only Russia instead spent that time getting tens of thousands of their troops massacred in Bakhmut, and the vaunted Ziggfried Line is so far proving not all that impressive.
Ukraine should make nukes as this point (enogh for MAD) and threaten Russia until they move all their troops out.
If not, use the nukes but for real.
It's not politically viable, the rhetoric they've been pushing for years is that Ukraine is an inferior little brother that must be brought back into line, after they started their "SMO" they bumped that up to 11. Even now they continue to push the narrative that they remain in control of the situation and they'll soon have the Ukrainians underfoot. In recent times they've started to adjust their narrative and admitting to difficulty, but in the end they're still going "we'll persevere just like we did in the Great Patriotic War" etc. etc. To go from that to "we're going to hunker down like turtles from now on" is politically impossible. They'd have had to have decided on that prior to the bumrush at the beginning of the war.
I would also point out that had their attack punched through Ukrainian lines they would've taken a considerable amount of pressure off of their southern lines and taken the initiative. I doubt they could've really succeeded though.
Russian pubic doesn't care about the war they just don't want to lose it. Turtling would prevent or at least slow the process of losing.
What they tell their people and what they do don't necessarily align.
It doesn't really matter what the Russian people think and believe as long as they're obedient or at least passive, as far as the Kremlin is concerned. New Russian propaganda works different.
And thankfully, 90% of the Russian population is completely obedient/submissive and will gladly suck Putin's wiener before daring to disobey the Russian government. Obviously I'd expect Russians living in the big cities to gladly follow whatever the Russian government would say, but you'd think Russians living in the smaller towns and villages would be absolutely livid at the Russian government thus far with how many Russian soldiers have been thrown into the meatgrinder since they've been the most affected. But I guess the Russians with half a brain/didn't support the war left the country months ago before mobilization took place. So anyone left in Russia at this point is either completely okay with the war and the warcrimes or just simply didn't have the means to leave the country in time.
Those Russians I do have sympathy for; the ones who just can't afford to leave that is. You would think that those opposed to the war yet still forced into the SMO would have fragged their CO's and defected or at the very least started burning some Russian cities down, but aside from a few very isolated incidents, they'll gladly shoot a Ukrainian if given a rifle. Just goes to show how complicit the majority of the population of Russia is in all this and how in the ensuing days of WW3, I won't feel any pang of remorse as Russia ceases to exist. I mean yeah, I'll probably get vaporized too living in Portland and the US would probably lose like 30% of its population, but honestly this city deserves to be vaporized and as I don't have the means to leave it, I'll just accept being vaporized as long as I know all of Russia was too.
Frick the Russians and their stupid fricking Asiatic thick skin and black hearts
Kill them all
>politically impossible
Or else what? No, seriously, what do you think would go wrong for Russia on the home front if they didn't launch pointless offensives that take nothing?
This is a terrible excuse for something that is militarily inexcusable. Nobody in Russia fricking cares if they launch an offensive or not.
They're likely terrified of the Ukrainians actually making it to their first defensive line and discovering it's just a bunch of infantry trenches manned by mobiks with some firing positions for HMGs and the like.
They dropped that idea of weak Ukraine some time ago. Last week they spoke of demilitarization of Ukriane because only NATO weapons remain. Russia has had months of preperation to call this a war vs NATO
The trench network is only impressive if it's actually fully manned and supplied, but the way they are trying to push everywhere I'm beginning to think that might not be the case.
>if Russia was smart they
... would not have startet this stupid war
Tables have turned.
Now it's NATO junk being towed back.
>flat tire
>spare tire on the back
>NATO loses a 4x4
>Russia loses an irreplaceable flagship.
Another glorious victory of the motherland, cumrag!
> if Russia was smart
Yeah and if they had wheels they would be RollAIDS
But they aren't so its irrelevent.
It sucks and I can tell you why
You can dig long deep trenches but you need enough able bodied people to hold it
>but if Russia was smart
>russian long term thinking
the day /chug/ had this song added to their thread by mods was a blessed day
>Their second line trench network
Uhhhhhhhh what happened to the first one?
>Their second line trench network is legitimately impressive
Once you get done mopping up the Russians, you just got to look around and admire the craftsmanship.
>If Russia was smart
It should be clear by now the only thing that Russia can do consistently is embarrass itself
>if Russia was smart
I dont like this war. I dont like ukranians or russians dying. Out of the two, ukranians should be autonomous and without the NATO alliance that created the war. That being said, russia is going to lose the war ultimately. They will lose because they arent fighting ukrain, they are fighting world israelitery and ukraine is acting as the host. The israelites have people in both russian and ukranian and american, german government and defense. The israelites started recently moving out israelites from russia into israel. israelites with technical backgrounds etc. This has been going on since right after invasion but it has picked up. Its because russia is going to lose. I would guess they plabn to open ww3 between usa and china using russian defeat as the catalyst. Impossible to win a war when the people youre fighting have people who are also in your government who can see your hand. No secrecy or opsec. Near Impossible to win when a group can astroturf support in global monopoly on media.
>HATO "created" the war
shut up, Black person
>NATO created this war
NATO didn't do shit aside from being affirmed that its important to be in a alliance. Russia started this war under neo soviet imperialistic bullshit and they don't view Ukraine as a country with its own autonomy.
>the NATO alliance that created the war
have a nice day. This is a war of Russian aggression that Putin would never have dared attempt against a NATO member. Ukraine's neutrality and attempted appeasement of Putin's demands only emboldened him; NATO membership would have preserved the peace from bad actors.
>the NATO alliance that created the war
Kys moron
Ukraine is autonomous you homosexual
>invade country and push for capital
>when that fails pull back
>proceed to lose major cities to counteroffensive
>go defensive and try to hold the little of the east you still hold
I'm not saying it's a bad plan it just shows how bad things have gone that this is a good option for them.
Russia dont NEED to offense, they gona rocket Ukraine to stone age
Ah yes, because that has been a tried and tested tactic for defeating an enemy as was shown in the zero historical examples of bombing someone into submission.
This is actually incorrect; contextually it was successful during the spanish civil war, which was the exact event that caused the morons at the Luftwaffe to get hyperfixated on terrorbombing as a legitimate tactic to bring the UK and eventually the US to the peace table.
Instead it made them throw the war and torpedoed any chance of the western allies demanding anything other than total surrender.
Germans bombed Warsaw into submission in 1939. Of course they were also using land forces but Warsaw surrended mostly to protect civilians from bombing.
They were all recovered and there were no Russian casualties.
Meanwhile:
- a nice, even number of dead ziggers just dropped
- total arty and AA death continues
- more useless shitskin lawnmowers rekt
Jesus, even if you take conservative estimates and halve this it is still really bad. They should've fricked off a year ago.
Personally I think the actual causalities are about 25-30% of the MoD claims, which is still 55-66,000. that lines up with the numbers from the leaked us docs
...dude. Oryx's lower-bound confirmations for equipment losses are significantly higher than your 25-30%.
Upper bound by destroyed vehicles
1300 tanks * 3 = 3900 vatnigs
1600 bmps * 11 = 17600 vatnigs
300 self proppeled howitzers * 4 = 1200 vatnigs
I dunno how many people sit in the gorrilion dead afvs and trucks. There are also command vehicles, troop transports and so on.
But these numbers of lost vehicles indicate that the loses were severe
>over 4k tanks
Nice new milestone. But how many more of those tin cans do ruskies have?
Estimated pre-war functional was around 4500
i believe they can reactivate ~750 from storage a year (bear in mind, that they first gone for those in better condition, so rate might slow down when they start to scrape the bottom of the barrel), and they have roughly about 6k in storage (i believe it's 50:50 decent condition to rustbuckets)
These are Ukrainian T-64BVs blown up around Bakhmut today.
damn two whole t-64s?
There's over 110 Ka-52 Alligator hits released since the start of the offensive. That's including the 6 harvesters.
Not all of those are losses, but the Vikhr goes through over 1000 mm of armour, so I would say 3/4 of those are permanent kills.
Ukraine lost 15% of her Leopard 2 tanks.
Things are not going well.
>15%
surely you can show me 12 destroyed leopards
>Ka-52 Alligator hits released
and in not even 10% of them can you even tell if anything got shot because of their 3 pixel optics lmao, but you go off Black person
BRO IT HIT A BUSH
>живлeння
That's Ukrainian language M8.
That's a (very recent) Stugna video
that's at least 4 brand new Ladas
>economy stimulated
>biowaste disposed
>puccia just cant stop winning
I dunno man, the ukies are making grinding progress on pretty much all fronts. and this is without committing the majority of the brigades trained for the offensive. but i don't know how long they'll be able to sustain this.
and for what it's worth, the ukies seemed to learn from the earlier mistakes
>15% of leos
well this just didn't happen
>Ukraine lost 15% of her Leopard 2 tanks.
May we see them?
Hasn't Russia lost 100% of its active tank fleet?
Yes. That's why Ukraine has broken through Russian defences on the first day of their attack and swept 200 km deep into the enemy's anus.
As I type, mobiks are being crushed by Leopard tank treads in Berdyansk, Melitopol etc.
Oh wai-
>Still posting week old cope
This is getting stale doc, imma need a fresh dose.
>This is getting stale doc, imma need a fresh dose.
Meanwhile, you're posting in a thread that's trying to sell 3-month old Russian vehicle losses as new material...
Do you not see the breathtaking irony?
This makes your side look really weak and stupid, tbh. I'd be embarrassed.
>this is old losses
>source?
>i-it just is, OK!?
>he posted the picture again
Cute. Now post Storm Ossetia battalion.*~~
Every time you post that same image, Russia's underwhelming accomplishment becomes more and more pathetic.
Ukraine's brilliant counteroffensive is actually making the Russian attack on Vuhledar look competent.
Pretty sure the Ukrainians have at least taken one field, which is more than the Russians managed at Vuhledar.
Nope.
The area where this imagery comes from (south of Orekhiv) they were repelled and the 47th brigade made no progress.
So all of those losses with nothing to show for it. Russian style.
>Look at all those fields.
Except for the part where the area of this imagery has been confirmed to have been firmly secured by the Ukrainians, and most of the vehicles have likewise been confirmed to have been recovered and already repaired. Zigger cope maps do not change that.
So minimal losses and substantial ground gained as well a several times as many losses inflicted on the Russians in return. Ziggers lost, again. Deal with it. (Or seethe and deny impotently for our amusement, that works, too.)
>47th brigade made no progress.
Great cope. They post dozens of destroyed tanks daily.
>47th brigade made no progress
they made progress
but you right, 47th ombr is a fricking disgrace
Uh huh, the Ukies taking literally infinitely more ground than the Vuhledar attack for a fraction the casualties, while also killing like a hundred times as much of the enemy sure makes the Vuhledar wienerup look real good by comparison.
You're straight-up delusional, you literal sub-Black person.
>infinitely more ground
May we see it?
Because they still haven't even secured Piatykhatky, which has gone back and forth for a week now.
A village with a pre-war population of like 90, lmao.
>Black person tries turning a Soledar back at the Ukros
You forgot the other hamlets the Ukros took?
Soledar has a sold few thousand people.
Name a town larger than 1,000 people taken in the last 2.5 weeks of this failed offensive?
Yawn. Explain to me how an offensive that is steadily gaining ground, steadily inflicting lopsided casulaties on the enemy and is hsowing no signs of exhaustion or even slowing down is supposed to be "failed" outside zigger delusions.
>lopsided casulaties
Teehee. I'm gonna post it again just because you made a stupid remark.
Ok rajesh
I hope you realize the West isn't poor enough to be bothered
Piatykhatky had a prewar pop of about 20,000
Are you now outright denying that the ukrainian offensive has taken any ground at all? Wow, talk about getting a sub-Black person so buck-broken, he's literally fleeing headlong into denial of reality to the point of even disagreeing with literal vatnik propaganda channels.
>Because they still haven't even secured Piatykhatky
It sure seems pretty secure, what with every zigger attempt to retake it having resulted in the ziggers getting slaughtered one-sidedly without making any progress.
Yes, a village with a pre-war population of 90. Turned into another place where the Ukrainians are slaughtering ziggers by the hundreds in the process of an offensive that has already seen infinitely more success than the Vuhledar wienerup you tried to compare it to. Deal with it.
>Are you now outright denying that the ukrainian offensive has taken any ground at all?
Hard to say. Have they actually taken any ground?
Please understand, childhood malnutrition, heavy metal poisoning, and parasites affect mental capacity and they're all very real problems in whatever third world country that guy is from.
>Because they still haven't even secured Piatykhatky
So the geolocated Stugna-P and drone footage is fake?
>back and forth
Russians literally screaming
>nuh huh actually we counterattacked and liberated the territory already
every day doesn't make it a back and forth
Ukies took it and posted evidence. RU telegrams replied by starting their usual coping routine by making up a succesful counterattacks supported only by "trust me broz"
>back and forth
meanwhile in reality
>Russian bloggers alert that it will be lost if nothing is done
>it is lost
>but we will push them back!
>I said we will push them back!
>footage of Russian tanks evaporating in the neighboring village
>we are totally fighting them in Piatykhatky and not just trying to reach it through the nearby fields and roads
lol at least type out your own response not just copy and paste some homosexuals txt.doc
You do not recognize Prigozhin's post?
It seems you have not been keeping up with the status of the operation.
I know there is perhaps a hesitance in reading our Musician's words for some of us. While we cannot discount this as merely measuring eggs with Shoigu, it is undeniable that he knows everything more than everyone here.
Even when ordinaries, mobilized and artillery is working, Crests still advance. It seems that the situation is beginning to deteriorated and ours are caught with wieners in their hands.
You should start to learn everything. I highly suggest we prepare for the worst, because soon Russia might stand up to be measured. There is only a sad anger.
Do not believe the heads in television.
Glory to the Heroes.
It's lost 128% of it's pre-war T-80 fleet. They only still have T-80s because they're refurbishing their fleet in storage kek
>it's been more than six months since the orcs started using T-55 at the front
You're not very smart, are you?
Yes, at least when talking about T-80s, when talking about pure numbers they lost more than what they had on paper. Mostly T-80BVs and T-80Us.
It's pre-war active tank fleet, yes. Though some of those will have been recoverable and they've since brought out a lot of their reserves (the ones that are runnable at least).
Meanwhile russia lost 50% of Alligators. Leopard and Bradley's gonna be replaced quickly, how about Ka-52? kek
Russia lost 1/3rd of her Ka-52 fleet. Lrn2numbers.
Those Leopards ain't coming back.
Bradleys are garbage, Ukraine won't make any gains even if they get all 6,000 of these shitheaps tomorrow.
Gayest bait I've seen in a while, at this point it's generic. But the fricking tourists will bite either way.
>Those Leopards ain't coming back
yeah, I wouldn't worry about it
https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/rheinmetall-weitere-leopard-kampfpanzer-fuer-die-ukraine/29208672.html
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/seneste/danmark-donerer-leopard-2-kampvogne-til-ukraine
>Those Leopards ain't coming back.
Most of 'em have come back already, Vanya.
>Ukraine won't make any gains
Ukraine already made like three times the gains you did over the last 12 months, Vanya, and they show no sign of stopping.
Wiki numbers? u think 100% are operational? As in every military around the world huge percentage of weapons are on maintenance, damaged, waiting for parts etc. If 50% of total Alligators are operational I will call it miracle. Doesn't matter what's on paper, I'm talking about reality. Maybe west can't replace Leopard, they still gonna send another tanks. What kind of helicopters gonna replace Ka52? Mi8 from north Korea?
1/3rd of the number produced, dingaling.
God you redditors are stupid, and want to drag down everyone to waste time with your petty nonsense.
Well I'm going to bed.
you will never be white
>Ukraine won't make any gains even if they get all 6,000
you mean the alligator's they're losing 1 or 2 a day of? the alligator that's irreplaceable because they can't build any more? yes surely that is sustainable. You can blow up all the ukrainian tanks and they'll still get more. Supposedly about to get 200 more from the israelites.
Ziggers trying to pretend the Ack-52 is good and not a piece of shit that gets shot down weekly has got to be the funniest meme of the month.
You can tell they're Ukrainian because they didn't turret toss.
At least change the filename you tit. Do you people even try at this point??. Srsly??
"LOOK AT HOHOL LOSSES TODAY, MANY NATO GEAR DESTROYED. AKHMAT SILA". And you see a file with a date in it's name, from yesterday...
>t-64
>6 vehicles lost
>10 vatnig shitbuckets destroyed
>even with ukraine on the offensive poccnigegrs are losing 1.5 vehicles for every ukie vehicle
>Russia gets rid of its old Soviet era surplus in exchange for destroying top of the line HATO gear that cost American taxpayers billions
Sounds like a good trade to me
T-64s are older than t-72 and t-90
>Russia gets rid of the best stuff it can give its military in exchange for destroying decomissioned NATO gear that would have cost American taxpayers billions to dispose of ourselves
Sounds like a good trade to me
>we fire 20 gorrillion shells a second, hoholpiggies are doomed*~~*~~))
>HATO is burning through its ammunition reserves faster*~~*~~)
pick which button to press
>muh old Soviet era surplus
That's essentially all they have left, dumbass.
>top of the line HATO gear
Didn't know Leo 2A4s from the mid-late 80's and M2A2 ODS Bradleys from the early 90's were "top of the line". Let alone T-64s.
>muh billions.
The american taxpayer paid for that decades ago and it doesn't matter what happens with the old buckets now.
The lack of value you ziggers place on human life is incredible...
>moronic Black person memoryholes the other thread
That's a T-72AV/M1R and a T-80BV
have a nice day.
From top to bottom
>T-72AV
>BTR-82A/BTR-80
>T-90 (A/S/M)
>BMP-3
>BTR-82A/BTR-80
>BMP-3
>T-80BV (Left)
>T-72AV (Right)
Lol, good catch
why is it always such a random mix of vehicles? One of the few logistical advantages Russia could leverage is parts commonality from large numbers of the same or similar vehicles and they piss that away by mixing T80 with T72/T90, BTR and BMPs of every model etc
Russians have never had good logistics. Never.
The Soviets would've had the same problem.
There's as much commonality between a T-72A and a T-72B as there's between an M2A1 and an M2A2ODS, not to even mention differences between models such a T-72B and its brother the T-90.
But they don't care.
They shoot, they'll go.
They're tanks, they fit on an MRB, they go with the AFV that they're assigned to the unit, and that's it.
They're just moronic, and desperate. they've always been. And it works barely enough, the marginal cost and benefit equation is acceptable for them to keep it that way, because that's their culture. They're mediocre by nature, and mediocrity is excellency.
But what I'm saying is the soviets didn't have the same problem. Units up to regiment and division stuck to 1 or 2 types of MBT, "motor rifles" had either BMP or BTR and generally the same model etc.
I guess when the republics split off they lost all their brains.
On paper, yes. MRRs had T-55As, but some had T-55Ms, T-54A/Bs in service.
GTRs had on paper just a kind of tank, yes, but ironically enough only the russians managed to create pure 'X variant' units on a large scale (Mainly with T-72B3 and T-80BVs). For example, the Naval infantry used T-55As, T-55Ms, T-55 with Drodz, T-55MV (All of the T-55s with different engines) and T-72s at the same time during the late 70s and 80s.
The problem is that the degradation of materiel they were forced (by their own nature) to make a mismatch of equipment to recover from losses. (Like T-55As getting mid-replaced by T-55Ms in Afghanistan)
What we are seeing today is what would've happened with the Russiaans, but at a worse scale since the Soviets would've kept production of new equipment, and the degradation of component accessibility would've created real Frankenstein tanks in a worse manner than the dear T-62MV Obr. 2023s we have now which at least all have a Sosna-U.
>Units up to regiment and division stuck to 1 or 2 types of MBT, "motor rifles" had either BMP or BTR and generally the same model etc.
a month or two campaigning in Germany with rear like poland/hungary/lithuania/latvia/estonia/etc in full mutiny/insurgency would have produced the exact same results in organization you see in Ukraine right now. It is always tankies, turdies or westerners who are trying to claim the vatnik union was somehow magically better while those with actual experience with it are not surprised at anything going on with the russian "army" today.
lmao the few times in the 80s when the USSR tried to get the rest of the pact to actually turn out for full scale invasion of germany exercises entire battalions from places like poland no showed
Eh, depends on the era. By the 80’s certainly as Bresnev killed the Union off. Khrushchev was a different story; funny corn man was probably the best leader Russia ever had and he was fricking Ukrainian.
AHAHAH EVERYONE WAS TRICKED THESE WERE BANDERA TANKS
moronic Black folk, not the same as
or
, those were geolocated to near Kreminna and they're not even t64s you utter well poisoning vatBlacks
bandera t72 or bandera t64 what is the difference
>NUUUUUUUUUUU THESE ARE BANDERA TANKS DON'T AXPOSE OUR UTTER INCOMPETENSE AND Black personY
have a nice day subhuman
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1671271291683315714
does it mean that russia will finally stop losing?
>occupying half of your enemy's territory, bombing their capital daily, destroying its tanks by the dozen, having their women fled to the west to suck Black person dick and destroying its demographics means you are losing
What a resounding NATO success you got there troony
>the vatnik brings up trannies unprompted
who could've seen this coming
>occupying half of your enemy's territory, bombing their capital daily, destroying its tanks by the dozen, having their women fled to the west to suck Black person dick and destroying its demographics means you are losing
Russia only occupies like ~15% of Ukraine rn. Before the Kherson and Kharkiv retreats it was only like 25%. And all those other things are happening to Russia as well.
>occupying half of your enemy's territory
Russia only ever got to 20% and they've been losing territory since late March 2022.
>NATO
>NATO
>NATO
You will never see communism work, bunkertroon, nor will /k/ ever turn into /leftypol/. Go back.
>occupying half of your enemy's territory
Never even got close to that, braindead zigger.
>bombing their capital daily
You mean failing to bomb it. Patriot's score is what now, 13-0?
>destroying its tanks by the dozen
While losing dozens of your own for each one you destroy.
>having their women fled to the west to suck Black person dick
Why are vatniks so obsessed with Black person dicks and this fanfiction of theirs?
>and destroying its demographics
ROFLMAO, the absolute projection.
>muh trannies
Obsessed.
Dumb khokhol, glorious unbeatable kinzhal destroyed 5 of the 2 patriot systems oinkraine has*~~))
2.2 russians fled, many russians disabled or dead from the war unknown number but lets just say they havent mobilized and increased their pay for nothing.
Most of those Russians came back when they realized the sanctions were a meme and they wouldn't mobilize the whole country for war, they also gained millions from Ukraine either by territory or people fleeing the war, meanwhile at the former country known as Ukraine...
>Most of those Russians came back
Source?
incredible coping skills
Delete now
>Most of those Russians came back
Holy mother of cope.
>sanctions were a meme
This is why russian gov-t was begging to lift them?
Millions of Ukrainians came back when they realized the Russian military was a meme and they couldn't even take Kyiv
>Most of those Russians came back
on their own power?
You can tell how bad the situation has gotten by what Putin's government is doing - for months propaganda has been in overdrive saying how bad life is outside Russia, parading morons that "went back", threatening that anyone who doesn't come back immediately will be banned from entering Russia forever and promissing free money for anyone who does come back. Meanwhile younger scientists have also started leaving the country through illicit means because it's become impossible to do any work in Russia.
>threatening that anyone who doesn't come back immediately will be banned from entering Russia forever
> - Is that a promise?
> - Can I have it in writing, as a legally binding document?
> - Who cares, we can just go visit our folks when the government falls and the new one relaxes the borders again
Why do socialists hate NATO exactly?
say what you want about soviet psyops, they've got some great inertia.
>Us invades mexico
>Initially take Senora and Chihuahua but no longer hold all of it
>82nd airborne takes mexico city airport but can't get resupply and fricks off/gets shwacked
>finally take Monterey by sending wave after wave of Blackwater goons into a meat grinder
>Aircraft carrier sunk in the gulf
>neo confederates keep raiding Tuscon
Mexico is losing
> daily bombings
5 wrecks of buzz bombs falling in random places 2-3 times a week only counts as an attempt
t. kyiv anon
So we have the stalematiest stalemate possible.
Neither side can do shit.
What's the next step of our masterplan?
That's not what's going on satan, calm down.
It's kinda sad how these losses aren't even surprising, just the expected result of blyatkrieg
>blyatkrieg
Heh
That phrase was coined in the first days of the war
>was the first anon to post it on /k/
This really gave me the dopamine.
>The EXACT position of those vehicles
>The exact same types of vehicles in the exact same configuration with their turrets oriented in the same way
Wait a second....
You fricking homosexuals fell for it
HAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*inhales
AAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
Imagine being so desperate for a win, you re-post rekt Russian armour from the Vuhledar glory days...
Another brillinat twitter victory for russia
Saying something doesn't make it true. Your picture doesn't line up with OP's.
it does match the 4 vehicles in the bottom left quadrant of the OP picture
Yes it does. Same vehicles, different aspect. This one nails it:
Congrats, you've been duped.
OK, seems fair, you've got proof that this
is also old footage? And for fricks sakes learn how to differentiate a T-64 from T-72s/T-90s.
Ukrop trannoids owned. Their reddit brigade is falling apart.
sry bros, but its the same as here, this Black personhomosexual pajeet is right
47th bridage interrogating POWs after failed offensive.
https://t.me/ButusovPlus/3194
>using up your reserves while a counter offensive is under way and gaining ground
something tells me some dumbfrick russian officer was looking to make a name for himself and did this unilaterally.
>posted some russian messenger link
are you moronic?
www facebook com/47brigade/
>Surpr-ACK
Too bad yesterdays thread died.
why do they even bother? logically speaking they'd be better off with focusing on holding and eke out some kind of attrition win at this point.
Supposedly trying to pull forces from Bakhmut that take positions from 10 months offensive back.
I said this in the last thread about this, but it isn't a surprise offensive, the Russians have been failing to counterattack the Ukies up there since the end of the Kharkiv Counteroffensive, but it was overshadowed by Bakhmut.
The only reason it's getting attention from the Russians no is because it's the only place they are attacking still, but if they say they've been this for half-a-year now, its not going to sound as impressive as "Super Sekret Surprise Counter-Counteroffensive". I suspect the sole reason they're doing this is so that Gerasimov doesn't mysteriously loose his other leg somehow.
aren't heavy hardware suppose to be spread out so they will not get fricked all at once giving the modern weaponry ?
the both sides had the same blunders. wtf ?
Lets face it guys armor/tanks have shown their really on the way out, with drone becoming cheaper and more effective, and with ATGM becoming more advanced and lethal......tanks simply are not worth the cost to manufacture and the logistics are expensive as hell.
It can take well over a year to properly train a tank crew (especially with western tanks), compare that to a cheap drone or an atgm, that you can train a monkey to operate in a fraction of the time.
people are pushing the "russian tanks are shit teir" narrative, but this war will prove that even western tanks are simply not worth the cost, we all know that it's just a matter of time befor a video drops, of a cheap russian drone taking out a multi million dollar Challenger 2. Just think about if for one second, a poorly trained monkey piloting a cheap disposable drone, takes out a 64 Tons expensive as frick western tank, that took 6 months minimum to train the crew.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! ALL THAT DRONE FOOTAGE IS DOCTORED! RUSSIANS ACTUALLY DIDN'T DESTROY ANYTHING AND LANCET WAS A COMPLETE FLOP!
good luck with your generic HE charge
let's see somethign destroyed, then
>let's see somethign destroyed, then
inb4 "russian propaganda"
I just know that you are that crazy. You pro Ukroid shitters are some of the dumbest motherfrickers alive. I literally pull quotes from the US media, US analysts and even some senators, that used to shit on Putin all the time, that say literally ONE thing that is not in favor of Ukrainians (but I don't give the source on purpose), and moronic mindbroken drones here start screaming vatnik propaganda.
It's kinda hilarious actually.
Even in that recent Kissinger interview, he said some stuff that idiots considered "pro russian" and the man just gave his opinion on whats going on. You people are SHOCKINGLY STUPID.
let's see the burned-out husk of a leopard
>let's see somethign destroyed, then
The ukrainians have not commited challenger or abrams into battle yet, the only western tanks that the ukies are willing to put into battle are a small handful of leopards......and those leopards they did field got their shit pushed in.
Are you really going to set yourself up for that "i told ya so" moment, when we do see a drone(s) smacking into the side of a challenger, and we see a bunch of russians high fiving next to it's burnt out hull.
Look we all think tanks are "cool", just like we love the idea of armored knights, Battleships, trebuchet's, katanas.......but these things along with tanks belong in museums, not on a 21st century battlefield.
no one is claiming invulnerability, but a small HE warhead is not a big deal for a tank. and you sound like warriortard.
>leopards they did field got their shit pushed in
may i see the burned-out hulls?
Everyone always says this because it makes them feel smart. With some fairly straightforward (if expensive) investments you can make quadrotors basically infeasible.
>jammers that actually work at jamming everything from commercial drones running on 2.4 ghz to frequency hopping military ones
>your own drones to locate enemy positions, obviously
>RF direction finding
>GPS/GLONASS/Beidou jamming
>laser/30mm airburst SHORAD with radar/IRST capable of detecting drones
>divisional long range fire (this is literally what HIMARS/M270 with GLMRS is for in US Army doctrine) allowing you to delete C2 nodes and anyone who thinks using drones is a good idea
These alone make it infeasible to fly drones at high altitude (jamming/direction finding), infeasible to use them for real time arty spotting (jamming, direction finding, SHORAD), and infeasible to use them at all (HIMARS deleting your command post).
I know you're going to technobabble at me about me being a coper and drones actually being superior but really, drones only work in this war because nobody has the guts to give the Ukrainians hundreds of HIMARS launchers, their own GMLRS factory, and access to prototype laser SHORAD systems.
Yeah people were already saying in the 70s/80s that various rocket launchers and handheld anti tank weapons made tanks useless but here we are. Even one year ago they were saying that javelins made Russian tanks useless but Russia keeps using them.
Everything has a vulnerability but you also need some way of transporting soldiers in armour with the means to fire back. Sometimes vulnerabilities get exploited and sometimes they don't, either because they get mitigated or the other side just doesn't do a good enough job exploiting them. A vulnerability doesn't make anything inherently useless.
Drone's don't carry enough explosive to blow tanks sky high unless they're Russian tanks.
All Drones can do is disable tanks with their dinky explosive charge.
They're actually weaker than ATGMs which didn't successfully kill the tank either.
Cope Reformist
bullshit, since new lancets carry heats and there are at least two videos of them going through leo2 side armor.
We've already had at least 20 threads about that one Leopard that took a hit to the blowout panel where every vatnik thought it was the tank brewing up. Shut up. You have no right to talk.
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Thats an old pic from Vulehdar. /k/ fell for bait once again. Reminder, if it has no source, it is a vatnik thread and if you reply you're just another NPC.
/k/ is a gathering of twitter children with ukraine and pride flags and 78 pronouns in their bios coming here to call every other thing a russian propaganda.
thanks for another false flag thread /misc/
can I have a discord invite?
>haha we tricked you into thinking this picture of a failed offensive was another failed offensive!!
not sending their best
It's a really interesting tactic this time, because instead of the usual where they post a blurry video of dead ukrainians and their tanks, they post...pictures of dead russian tanks from a while back?
again, not sending their best
It's not Russia equipped with T64 bro.
>still trying this cope
get a life Black person, lmao
How come slavshits haven't figured to overcome mine fields? Ziggers got their winter and summer offensives cancelled over a couple of mines and Piggers wasted a ton of Leos and Bradleys bum rushing mines.
>Seems like Russia has basically zero offensive capabilities left
suuureee...
tell that to the ukraine squad who is now jello
Using T55s as VBIEDs is the exact proof of the lack of combined arms capabilities.
>no Bakhmut
>no Pisky
>no Soledar, Vuhledar
This map's shit, why wouldn't you mark the most important strategic objectives of the campaign?
i'm not sure TBIED(Tank-based improvised explosive device) is the win you think it is
it sure worked for japs back in ww2
Holy SHIT it's OVER. A Ukrainian squad had their brains turned to mush!? Pack it all up now boys, wars over, too many losses.
More like that kind of shit REEKS of desperation. Imagine turning your fricking TANKS, that you have no ability to remake in anywhere near the numbers that you're losing them, into remote bombs instead of, y'know, actually using them like tanks.
that one tank vaporized 4 enemy soldiers, it was a worthy trade
also it was one of those shitty rusty cold war era tanks, this was an idea use for it since it would soon have to be scrapped anyway
be objective you tard, stop blindly fanboying one side of the conflict
stop blindly fanboying one side of the conflict
Man it's going to be funny when Ukraine begins hitting Russian chemical plants and you morons realize the explosives you're wasting have to come from somewhere.
Bro, you cannot be sitting there telling me that sacrificing a TANK, not to mention the SEVEN TONS OF EXPLOSIVES, for FOUR SOLDIERS is a worthy trade.
Please tell me this is a shitpost and I'm being baited right now
>is a worthy trade
it 100% is worth it.
let me explain to you how modern battles work you brainlet
this isn't call of dutty where you run around shooting people point blank, people just shoot at each other from tree lines 300 meters apart, not hitting shit all day, every day thousands of artillery shells are fired by both sides and 99% of then only hit trees and dirt. Literally 95%+ of explosions used in this war did no damage to forces of either side.
Packing a tank full of boombooms and taking out even a single enemy is worth it and a net positive. Majority of the tanks during the war, on both sides, 90%+ won't secure a single kill.
So yes this is 100% worth it and on top of that what makes it double worth it that ukraine is getting extremely short on combat capable men so every dead one hurts them several times more than a dead russian hurts putin.
Now apologize you absolute brainlet homosexual.
Bro, I'm pleading with you one last time, PLEASE tell me you're just baiting and this is trolling. I understand completely how fun it can be to bait others to get (you's) but I really need to know you're okay right now.
tell me son, how many wars have you fought in? what are your qualifications to opine on this topic?
Exactly.
Anon...
I know after that moronic statement there's nothing I can say that will likely get through to you, but please get help. I'm sure you have people who care about you and you don't have to be this way forever. You can make changes.
this only works if you tell us how qualified you are.
don't need to, i explained how things work and his only reply was
>no it's not!
that is something you hear from a 5 year old when he wants to argue with you but has literally 0 counter arguments to present because he has 0 knowledge about the topic
doesnt work that way sorry.
>how things work
you have 0 qualifications
I'd like to ask you a simple question anon:
Are you a follower/fan of Armchair Warlord?
Yes, he's one of the more unbiased people to cover the war.
Oh thank God, you are trolling. It's okay anon, even I sometimes have days where I like to farm (you's).
>ukraine is getting extremely short on combat capable men
proofs?
>proofs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics
this isn't starcraft kid, they can't just mine some rock, build barracks and spawn more troops in
ukraine has much smaller army than russia, and have been taking loses despite the lies biased media tries to feed you
why the frick do you think they are so desperate to conscript people? if you are ukro male living in eu and even try to visit your relative in ukraine you will get instantly grabbed on the border and dragged to the nearest boot camp, there are videos of ukrop forces literally draggin ukrop screaming mean who don't want to fight in the war and forcing them to joint because they are so desperate for manpower
ukraine is crushing with 10:1 ratio at the very least. russia will run out of men way before ukraine and no amount of internet coping is going to change that.
>ukraine is crushing with 10:1 ratio
it genuinely saddens me to see anons here fall for the lamestream media lies like this
just think about it for a second.. come on.. that number is so clearly bullshit that nobody with a brain could ever believe it.
the actual number is at most 1.5/1
well arguing about this is a waste of time, you will of course find out i'm correct once ukraine defense starts to collapse due to nobody left to fight the war, and then eu will come up with some excuse to send NATO troops in which will of course result in a nuclear war and it's game over for everyone.
I really wish i was wrong about this but sadly i'm not, so enjoy living in denial while you still can and live you life to the fullest, because you don¨t have that much time left.
and yet chechens and finns could do it without major outside support, but ukraine with all the precision ammo and burger awacs can't? lmao right. russians were always and forever incapable of waging war in any way but meat waves that's why their losses are atrocious in every single major conflict. and you my brown friend will just have to accept it at some point.
why am i the only one who keeps posting proof and valid arguments while you gays just make shit up?
> russians were always and forever incapable of waging war
a single russian soldier clears out a trench full of hohols by himself:
show me a single hohol who has done that... i'll wait..
>show me a single hohol who has done that
Black person, are you serious?
Also, wars are not won by one-off events like this. You sound like you are twelve.
>Black person, are you serious?
he killed ONE guy
if that is the best you have ukrop is in big trouble
the only way for ukies to come up with a hero is by literally making one up like the israelite of kiev
>he killed ONE guy
You are either blind or moronic. I'm thinking both.
proofs?)
twitter post from noname account or bbc?
>unironically linking to the mathematics wikipedia page
Black person I'm not reading that
Russians operate in two modes:
>drink all the vodka
>why is the vodka gone?
Oh I'm well aware of their moronness. My theory is that that anon isn't Russian and is just trolling for (you's). His English was a little too good for it to be Vlad in Moscow or ol' Rajeesh in Calcutta earning his 5 rubles.
Over the last multiple years none of the vatniks spammers have been Russian.
The most prolific ones during Feb-June 2022 were completely ignorant of even basic topic related to Russia and Europe like e.g. the climate, what plans grow here, when does spring start and how cold it can get.
it didn't do shit, soldiers were in trenches and explosion went well over. maybe some minute hearing loss and that's it.
apart of shockwave it does not look more impressive than some of turret toss competition videos...
compared to Syrian war rigged vehicles this explosion seems really weak...
isn't this "bomb tank" just a cope to deflect a fact that they are using ww2 era tanks on battlefield?
Hey the T-55 isn’t WWII era, it’s Post-War.
isn't first t54 prototype from 1944?
No, they legitimately have been using bomb vehicles like this since 2022.
They don't even bother to make any special preparations or optimize the explosive layout - they just fill a BMP, MT-LB or truck full of artillery shells, miclic, plastique and mines and send it rolling.
The only thing new here is using a T-55 in this role.
Found this video analyisis of the lost leopards, pretty interesting stuff.
>be me
>keep saying for weeks Ukrainians will slow their defensive operations because of the rain
>vatniks keep spamming weeks-old videos at me
>pictures of destroyed Russian armor keep piling in for the past two days
>look inside
>wet
I'd this was what an Ukie offensive looked like they'd spam it for months. Instead it will be very quickly forgotten
>the vaunted kreminna offensive got absolutely annihilated and most of this thread is engaging ziggers in legitimate debate over minutia rather than relentless mockery
SHUT THE FRICK UP, REDDIT
TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH IS HAPPENING
Good morning sirs
All I know is Nato would never lie to me about Ukraines casualty numbers.....it's not like they have a reason to lie to me.
and the reason is...?
To hide the horrific cost in human life, in keeping this war grinding.
To maintain ukrainian moral.(belief that they can win)
To not empower those politicians/parties pushing for peace talks and an end to the conflict.
To ensure that western electorates believe this war is winnable, and not a fricking lost cause and a giant waste of tax payers money.
the list goes on....
holy ESL
russia is free to leave at any time
>take that Westoids
>you have elections and term limits, while we have a moronic dictator kept in power by foreign powers
Very weird cope.
>giant waste of tax payers money.
Governments waste money all the time. This isn't even half as bad as some moronic projects they embark on.
Classic projection
so Russia tells the truth?
this post has them in a fricking tizzy all over the catalog
keep posting the failed offensive
Ukraine is the rightful successor state to the Kievan Rus. (you) are a Mongolian blooded snow Black person.
don't insult mongolians like that
we all from russia have fun with how ukrobots spam all PrepHole and reddit. Their give you fake and photohop,which we make on 2ch
sorry but no sorry for my english
now i going drink vodka
Is this why shills have been spamming the board all day?
man, I love seeing krumped Russians. not enough krumped today yet.
Why did the jannies just take down those threads about the attack out of orikhiv
no clue but it winding you up is funny
Same arguing every day like it in any way remotely matters to the outcome which has already been decided. Have of it is schizo israelite shit spam. Wish these fricking morons would admit they lost and just withdraw already instead of waiting another 2 years for no reason whatsoever.