Even the "original" image was edited before being printed and I'm tired of concern troll os-int gays pretending otherwise to boost their own egos and Russ shills willing to help them.
Plus even the “original” was over a month old when it was released right?
Even the "original" image was edited before being printed and I'm tired of concern troll os-int gays pretending otherwise to boost their own egos and Russ shills willing to help them.
Many of the shootdowns are just plumes of smoke over the horizon.
Oryx tweeted that Air losses are pretty hard to confirm when Ukrainians just show smoke clouds and no wreckage.
A lot of this “leak” seems to just be OSINT repackaged as an intel report. US generals have previously cited the Oryx number exact for this reason.
Ngl I think the difference is a more accurate representation of both sides. Russians are hiding their numbers by counting MOD, luhansk/donetsk, and Wagner separately, and ukraine has a fricky way of counting casualties as well.
By saying "You are civiliziation in decline" he is implying that women which are allowed to enter the military are a sign of the imminent collapse of contry that allows it because they are usually weaker then men, ignoring the fact that he himself is not any stronger.
If he said "Your civilization in decline" it would've been wrong since the correct spelling would be "Your civilization IS in decline".
All this to say you are a moronic Black person homosexual who is 100% not anglophone and that you should spend more time studying instead of posting shit takes on PrepHole like the virgin loser you are.
That obese guy would obliterate a girl in strength lol. Are you moronic?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>t. fatty who thinks big=strong
1 year ago
Anonymous
moron who doesn't understand male v female strength or how much a mans mass can add to strength. You are delusion and have outed yourself as someone who does nothing physical.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't know modern wars aren't fought in a sumo ring
1 year ago
Anonymous
He merely said strength nothing else. But anyway, most of war is carrying heavy shit all day everyday, which yes the fat guy would be better at.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Carrying shit all day requires cardio anon, the fat guy is gonna get winded after the first trip.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Unlike the girl, he can get fitter and persevere. She has pretty much capped out at nothing. Regardless, he's still stronger, so the original post is fricking moronic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Post physique fatso
1 year ago
Anonymous
no he wouldn't lmfao you fricking moron carrying shit all day is about your state of fitness, lardass there would get tired instantly with all that fat weighing him down
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah bro, in the next war the fat men will totally be left alone while the totally badass women will be drafted. You're a moron if you dont understand the fact the guy will still be more useful.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> n-no y-you're just wrong so there I win!
I accept your concession
1 year ago
Anonymous
Post physique fatso
Original post said she is stronger. Army of simps try change the goalposts which are entertained. Still wrong.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>simping is when you state the fact that lardasses with no cardio are mogged by normal women with firearms
Try touching your toes before thinking you can break the 21 Foot Rule without dying of a heart attack midway.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>He hasn't ever wondered why men of many ages and sizes are dragged from the streets to die while women arent even bothered with.
If the leaks are as big as this dude claims. https://twitter.com/btr_fan21/status/1644384711576256538 Then it's really not a small leak, apparently it has CIA shit and things completely unrelated to Ukraine.
I used to post on 8gag when it was decent and post quality here was dropping off massively in 2016-2017. They allowed webms with sound, and webms with the sound cranked to RIP headphone user levels definitely got posted. I still have some saved.
>mods continue to bend the knee to their federal handlers >at this point their shame is so immense they feign pride over it >they deliberately kill conversation about the current conflict, render it impossible >their sole job is to ensure a pro-ukraine narrative at all times >no nuance may be permitted >the signal must be flooded with noise (bots or turd worlders? virtually the same regardless) >cant even deny they arent doing it as there's a deluge of (Dead) replies and stupid shit like in the thread
You want to know the biggest sign of western decline? It's not the gas prices, it's not the food prices, it's not the student loan crisis, it's not the impending housing bubble pop, it's not the demographic crisis, it's not the senseless wars overseas, it's not the stolen election, it's not the forgotten generation, it's not even suicide-inducing headlines that are designed to erode your faith in this country. It's your tax dollars going to elaborate gayops on this very board, because infirm basedjak lookalikes working at U.S. intelligence agencies feel like it's "important" to subvert a fricking niche weapons board with homosexual government propaganda. At this point being called a fricking russian in this place is a compliment because it means you're not a robot.
>Waaahhh anyone who disagrees with me is a psyop from the DEEP STATE
Have you considered that pro-russian views are widely hated because they're morally wrong? Unless you're a brainlet /misc/tard whose entire political identity is "against (current thing)", most civilized folk frown upon invading a country unprovoked, razing its cities to the ground and trying to genocide its people. That's why third worlders are generally more likely to be pro-russian while most countries with drinkable tap water are pro Ukraine.
Also I dint read your long winded post but I assume it was moronic.
>Have you considered that pro-russian views are widely hated because they're morally wrong?
Have you considered calling everyone "pro-russian" when they aren't a sheep like you moronic? You aren't a Bushgay circa 2001, you aren't even an SJW, you are horrible new third thing who needs to kill himself immediately.
Literally only two sides to a war like this. It's not like 2003 Iraq where you can wax philosophical about which side is justified. There is no neutral ground. Go back you your fricking echo chamber safe space on /misc/ you whiney little b***h.
>Literally only two sides to a war like this
ZOG slave vs. ZOG slave wearing ushanka
1 year ago
Anonymous
take your pills and the ZOG slaves in the wall will go away.
1 year ago
Anonymous
My daddy didn't like Russia, his daddy didn't like Russia neither. So I don't like 'em. Simple as. Every little bit of goodwill they garnered in my eyes went up in flames when they started kidnapping children and striking civilian centers. Frick 'em all to death, and the smart ones can leave or defect before it's their turn. Frick you if you don't like it. Luv me USA, luv me democracy, luv me tax dollars funding the greatest fighting force the planet has ever seen, and luv me shitposting at you on technology developed here in the US using semiconductors first developed here in the US which are literally why I can tell you to eat shit from thousands of miles away. Stop being malding homosexuals and in a generation or two you can have a good existence, or you can just fricking die and the good ones left after can have a happy life instead. Whatever decision you make I don't give a frick and I will still not like or trust Russia. Even China isn't as moronic as you, even INDIA isn't as moronic as you, and I look forward to watching you get cannabilized for being stupid enough to try and make a joint currency to get out of the hole.
1 year ago
Anonymous
VatBlack folk got a whole lot more silent after this post...
1 year ago
Anonymous
>kidnapping children
>striking civilian centers
The Mall story? even ukrainian photos showed that they had armored vehicles in those garages. you type like a woman lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
Your country put people in space within living human beings lifetimes and this is the best cope you can come up with for stealing kids and killing civilians. You went from being an international partner of commerce and semi respected member nation of the UN to being a reviled laughinstock within a year, and this is the absolute best you can do to keep playing warthunder on a computer instead of IRL. I'm not even going to respond with sources backing up my claims, I'm not going to engage in gish-gallop, I'm just going to hand you this siberian-sized L and let you ruminate in it. My daddy and his daddy didn't like you so I don't like you and that's the single and sole justification I need for that belief, and there is nothing you can do about it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Anyone who presents anything contrary to MY belief has to be a Russian shill!
kek okay
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Anyone who doesn't suck the same dick I suck has to be a pig-dick-sucking b***h
Have you tried just not sucking dick? kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
Okay so you concede that you assumed I'm Russian just because of my post?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I consneed that you're either Russian or suck their dicks, yes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Grayzone
Will you cite RT next?
1 year ago
Anonymous
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but is useful. I'm looking forward to /rcwg/ and then /ccwg/.
>IT'S THE GLOWBlack folk
80% of the people who support Russia tend to be turbocontrarians who's entire ideology is "CURRENT THING BAD", they don't bring any fricking nuance, they just behave in the most insufferable manner possible while support dictatorial shithole who can't even keep their fricking narrative for this war straight.
I dont think anyone supports Russia. What you see is people pointing out Ukraine is corrupt and it's tied up to the Bidens who are also corrupt. The people paid to be here and direct narrative can't stand that because the story must be USA = Avengers and Russia = Darth Adolf Thanos.
>I dont think anyone supports Russia.
Aside form this website's septic tank >Muh corruption
No, for the most part, no one denies that Ukraine has issues with corruption or the Burisma shit, but you assume that carries the same weight for everyone, which is wrong. For example, a lot of support for Ukraine comes Eastern Europeans such as myself and I'm sorry, but my absolute visceral hatred of Russia has, for the most part, overtaken any concerns I would normally have about such topics.
>a lot of support for Ukraine comes Eastern Europeans such as myself and I'm sorry, but my absolute visceral hatred of Russia has, for the most part, overtaken any concerns I would normally have about such topics.
Which is perfectly fine. You have a vested interest. It's those that chose their side solely off of what the TV told them to do that are the ones vehemently shouting down any and all concerns about Ukraine. They don't have feelings for it like you do. It's just a projection of red team vs blue team for them.
You got a warning because you're a buffoon parroting FSB fairytales. We have spent so little money to so thoroughly humiliate Russia it is inarguably the single greatest investment this country has ever made since we bought Alaska from them for a pittance because they were so moronic even hundreds of years ago they had to sell wildly commodity rich territory for a pittance. If we spent 10x what we have on Ukraine thus far it would be money well spent, and your individual tax burden would go from being about 170$ a year to a ZOMGWAOWWW! 1,700$ for the pleasure. This isn't even getting into other things on the horizon that will ensure the continued spending of nearly a trillion to well over a trillion per year on natsec and keeping the rest of the world safe from themselves. Stop being a goddamned idiot and you'd probably stop catching warnings, and for your sake I hope you took some PreP before you took the vodka dick so far up your ass your breath smells like their watery nut.
>America's national civilian / military command structure has no one serious leading it.
Seethe. Biden is a King, a Winner and a Chad, he's singlehandedly defeating and humiliating Pussians without even losing a single American soldier, tank, jet or ship.
It's all mindgames because you have to weigh the idea that it might be fake vs the idea that it might be totally real but you rely on the enemy thinking "they wouldn't possibly leak the real shit, they're not that stupid" and thus plan around what they think you're NOT doing when it reality you're actually doing it
So Ukraine's KDR is only ~2.5:1 despite being on the defensive? I thought they were slaughtering entire legions in Bakhmut? They cannot possibly sustain this against Russia, not without direct NATO intervention anyways.
At a KD ratio of 2.5:1, and assuming the starting point of 830,900 active Russian soldiers and 200,000 active Ukrainian soldiers, Ukraine will run out of personnel at the same time Russia has 330,900 remaining.
Does the USA not know that Putin is not going to call this off under any circumstance unless they win? Is the USA just going to spend billions and wait until UKR has nobody left and then try to get them to negotiate?
TBD. Probably not much that interested parties wouldn't already know. Though the numbers for Ukrainian air defense has me feeling pessimistic that it deteriorated to that extent.
Still a hell of a bigger leak than I think anyone was expecting, and from a fricking public Discord server of all places.
>Did you really belive 10yos are fighting in trenches?
Yes? This is an existential war for Ukraine, and those kids weren't in uniforms so I assumed they were militia. You're acting like child soldiers have never been used before.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Even Russian casualty estimates are in the low 100 thousands. It's a long way before they run out of able bodied men.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They've got something like, what? 2 million military aged men to tap still?
1 year ago
Anonymous
You didn't notice they had literal wooden plank guns?
I recognize that explosion! From the guy livestreaming and gets hit with a mortar. Early war. Damn russian proganda can't even afford to blow up real children.
if true, thats just cruel of ukroids to give their kids wood cutouts of guns and throw them in the grinder like that. giving them phones is giving a homing beacon for isr linked artillery. these tactics are worse than desperate, its huwite homietry at its worst and shows they dont care about their future.
>600 ground vehicles lost >60 fighters/bombers >ooops hold wait s sec >004 ground vehicles lost >0 fighters/bombers lost
Why do the Russian shills do this? Do they honestly think people will believe them? It's almost beyond trolling and into the real of serious mental health issues, crazy delusions.
They aren't doing it for foreigners, they're doing it for their own morale. They want the average Russian to think that Russia is still a superpower and they're just holding off o n Ukraine.
The real question is: why leak it publicly? If you're working on behalf of Russia, why not just send the docs to the Russian gov't? Public disclosure lets the enemy know that you know what they know.
It also doesn't make sense for Russia to release it or direct its release, since it paints a very negative picture of the Russian military, a negative picture which far outweighs the propaganda value of potentially straining intelligence sharing agreements.
This is either info warfare/propaganda, or it's a false flag leak to get the Russians to shift their footing.
It's about creating uncertainty. take pic related for example. if ukranians are running low on interceptors, then russia should fly more sorties during this window of opportunity and move men to the front ASAP to make use of their impending air superiority. if ukranians are NOT running low on interceptors in this time table, russia shouldn't do that, because whatever plan they'd come up with would rely on air superiority they don't have.
Put another way, you WANT the russians to think it's legit if it's not, and you WANT them to think it's fake if it is legit.
So if it's actual intel that the russians got their hands on and someone noticed this on the UAF side, it might be smarter to NOT try to reign in the leak and let it become public (although stopping further leaks). Legit intel could then be construed as fake intel as any competent intelligence agency could've stopped the leak weeks ago. Aaaaand now we're at this level of "they know that we know that they know that we know".
I forgot to mention the political axis: >ALAAAARM: UAF air defenses exhausted >RU making gainz(tm) >1000 tiktok videos of the same SU-25 dropping a bomb >the virgin russian gopnik beat bombing run video vs the chad ukranian women crying in air raid shelter >reluctant NATO leaders guilt-tripped into sending expensive and secret AA systems >UA AA better than ever
I dunno, but i read in media about constant bombing along the front today so maybe that info about shortage of buk and s300 missiles did impact the war.
>nobody in the thread mentions this leak originated from a discord server named THUG SHAKER CENTRAL and a channel on it named Black personBRAP.FM
LMAOOO
>put Black person in your posts for better opsec
I can see it.
The real question is: why leak it publicly? If you're working on behalf of Russia, why not just send the docs to the Russian gov't? Public disclosure lets the enemy know that you know what they know.
It also doesn't make sense for Russia to release it or direct its release, since it paints a very negative picture of the Russian military, a negative picture which far outweighs the propaganda value of potentially straining intelligence sharing agreements.
This is either info warfare/propaganda, or it's a false flag leak to get the Russians to shift their footing.
It's probably a mentally unstable bureaucrat fiending for internet clout who went a little too far and committed multiple felonies before he could delete.
>Confirms the actual state of UAF >Counters US/UAF propaganda >Makes US politicians less likely to keep funding Ukraine >Demoralizes Pentagon >Improves Russian morale >Sows distrust between US partners >Makes coalition operations more difficult >Forces US to intelligence to take added precautions slowing the intelligence cycle
It's a pretty big deal.
2:1 loses. To be expected when attacking a dug in enemy. Outstanding considering the amount of urban fighting. Russia can sustain these losses. Ukraine cannot.
>"A-Actually we never... Never! Planned to win in three days, Ukraine is too strong for that! We will win in the end though!"
Lmao
Not a shill. Obviously the Very Special Military Operation went pear shaped. However, Putin did give those generals (15?) a chance to redeem themselves. He sent them forward to die with honor instead of dying a slow death in a lead mine.
Regardless, this is a case study in attrition warfare. Which side will run out of men and machines first?
Not at all. Nonsense really. Where in the leaked docs does it show this? Post doc. I have personally seen at least 50 of these docs, and unlike the rest of the morons here, I have an actual intelligence background.
The same publication that posted about the leaks in so much detail are... trying to do damage control on the leaks? hmmm
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ok, midwitt, let's try it another way. Show the actual document - not subjective extrapolation of the documents. I have seen the actual documents and do not see how this shows some major intelligence coup for NATO.
>How many military age men does Russia have?
How much equipment do they have and what's their build rate to compensate for destroyed stuff?
Probably higher than NATO is willing to continue to fund Ukraine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>ok midwit
you got an ass on you alright see thats what hes talking about.spread your ass open dude. you could do the rump shaker, huh? the thug shaker give me the thug shaker dude shake your ass. take your hands off it and shake that shit pull your shirt up i know you can shake it shake it. Yeah thats some thug ass right there. oh yeah thatll work. You got the booty dude! God damn! Look good bro? "Yeah" Yeah nice huh? Alright that'll work for him. Put that condom on
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's a lot of words to say, "I'm moronic."
1 year ago
Anonymous
>when you haven't seen the actual documents so your extrapolation function output doesn't match
Sic semper midwits.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Probably higher than NATO is willing to continue to fund Ukraine.
Boy are you in for a rude awakening
1 year ago
Anonymous
You clearly haven't read the "leaked to public sphere" leaks which is around 14 pages. 4 leaked first then around 12 hours later the rest of them. all were posted on 4ch after they were found on discord. nothing in those 14~ pages shows "deep spying on russians" it's literally a meme made by NYT for whatever reason. the rest of 100 leaked pages are in some paranoid autists HDDs only. Why are they paranoid of posting them? Because the military actually nuked the discord servers that those things were leaked on. I know you are a moronic shill but there you go
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ye sure, that's why every russian telegram is scared out of their pants, when in the past similar "leaks" were laughed at and ignored 🙂
1 year ago
Anonymous
>That last paragraph
Do they seriously believe this shit?
1 year ago
Anonymous
all the russian tgs are saying the leaks are disinfo. LOL
>Confirms the actual state of UAF >Counters US/UAF propaganda >Makes US politicians less likely to keep funding Ukraine >Demoralizes Pentagon >Improves Russian morale >Sows distrust between US partners >Makes coalition operations more difficult >Forces US to intelligence to take added precautions slowing the intelligence cycle
As posted above.
>Probably higher than NATO is willing to continue to fund Ukraine.
Boy are you in for a rude awakening
>Confirms the actual state of UAF
In line with military analyst and OSINT predictions based on available data >Counters US/UAF propaganda
Such as? >Makes US politicians less likely to keep funding Ukraine
Post one example resulting from this leak >Demoralizes Pentagon
How do you demoralize a building >Sows distrust between US partners
probably the only thing with a hint of truth, intelligence operations will be more cautious about what they share (it's why Ukraine is hiding it's plans in the first place) >Makes coalition operations more difficult
not at all? >Forces US to intelligence to take added precautions slowing the intelligence cycle
see point on distrust, probably break the legs of the idiot who got phished too
You forgot to mention >Confirms the Russian military is a big piece of shit and it's winter offensive was a disastrous failure >US satellite intel has complete and total operation vision of the Russians down to unit level, so they can't do shit without the Ukrainians countering them.
That KIA to wounded ratio is shameful for a modern military.
>random tard on PrepHole “leaks” a “secret government document” filled with OSINT-tier analysis >somehow people think it’s real >another tard edits it with moronic numbers >vatnigs start spamming it >now morons on Twitter are arguing about which fake and gay version of the fake and gay document is the real fake and gay document
Baudrillard help us
>We have low confidence in Russian (RUS) And Ukrainian (UKR) attrition rates and inventories because of information gaps, OPSEC and IO efforts, and potential bias in UKR information sharing
is quite the admission. 1) They actually use numbers provided by the Ukrainians for their assessments 2) they know the Ukrainians are lying. Incredible. Can you imagine living in a world in which serious decision-makers base their actions on Banderite propaganda shitposts & random Turkish bloggers.
A lot of them weren't save, and those that did save them aren't interested in spreading them further.
There is a collage showing off at least 30, apparently in total there were over 100.
There's one about ways to get Israel to send aid.
It should be obvious to non-morons that any "leaks" with only public-domain info and easily made-up crap isn’t real and is just an infowar action. ESPECIALLY when using the media as an offensive infowar tool was being discussed earlier.
I've seen news sites mention that among them are CIA briefings on topics related to China and the Middle East. I haven't stumbled upon them myself yet though.
An Israeli news site dropped a part of it.
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hyyl811egh >according to signals intelligence
What the frick is the CIA capable of if they're just tapped into the communications of the Mossad leadership?
The source of the documents must have gotten burned so they just dumped them. Only way it makes sense to drop 100 documents that would otherwise have intel value
Things in that document pretty much said that NATO is arming Ukraine for a spring offensive, which is about as meaningful as uncovering secret that sun does, indeed, rise in the morning
A normal person's response would be threefold: leaking confidential secrets is bad except in cases like Snowden where the public needs to know about government wrongdoing, reposting leaks is legal free speech, and refusing to repost leaks and draw attention to muh country's mistakes/interests is also fine.
Instead he's obsessed with finding nonexistent hypocrisy since that's how boomer centrists think.
Not at all.
Plus even the “original” was over a month old when it was released right?
no, someone has traced it back to march 4,
Not only that, but there are more documents that date back to January all shared in a small Discord server.
Even the "original" image was edited before being printed and I'm tired of concern troll os-int gays pretending otherwise to boost their own egos and Russ shills willing to help them.
how so?
Yes you would most likely have to edit a picture to end up with something like that. Indeed the ukraine is losing as even NAFO have to edit pictures.
i can't imagine who could be bothered to read that, let alone write it
Nice copypasta moron (although it’s not entirely wrong)
Somebody on here yesterday was saying both the Vatnik edit and “original” documents are fakes
>Somebody
Literally anyone with half a brain
>fighters lost is the Oryx number
How convenient
Another win for the dutchman.
lost is the Oryx number
>How convenient
Not shocking that things like destroyed aircraft and tanks are big enough to photograph 99% of the time
Many of the shootdowns are just plumes of smoke over the horizon.
Oryx tweeted that Air losses are pretty hard to confirm when Ukrainians just show smoke clouds and no wreckage.
A lot of this “leak” seems to just be OSINT repackaged as an intel report. US generals have previously cited the Oryx number exact for this reason.
i'm not surprised if all were recorded
Russians are too dumb to read intelligence reports so it's a nothingburger.
Please note how they edited the 17.5 of UA to 71.5 swapping the numbers, then they moved the 17.5 up to RU above.
Amazing.
Ngl I think the difference is a more accurate representation of both sides. Russians are hiding their numbers by counting MOD, luhansk/donetsk, and Wagner separately, and ukraine has a fricky way of counting casualties as well.
Uh huh. The Ukrainians taking vastly more losses than the Russians is "a more accurate representation of both sides." Cool story, vatBlack person.
No? I think the ratio is probably closer to 1:1, 1:2. You idiot. You fricking moron homosexual
By saying "You are civiliziation in decline" he is implying that women which are allowed to enter the military are a sign of the imminent collapse of contry that allows it because they are usually weaker then men, ignoring the fact that he himself is not any stronger.
If he said "Your civilization in decline" it would've been wrong since the correct spelling would be "Your civilization IS in decline".
All this to say you are a moronic Black person homosexual who is 100% not anglophone and that you should spend more time studying instead of posting shit takes on PrepHole like the virgin loser you are.
Ops, meant for
That obese guy would obliterate a girl in strength lol. Are you moronic?
>t. fatty who thinks big=strong
moron who doesn't understand male v female strength or how much a mans mass can add to strength. You are delusion and have outed yourself as someone who does nothing physical.
>He doesn't know modern wars aren't fought in a sumo ring
He merely said strength nothing else. But anyway, most of war is carrying heavy shit all day everyday, which yes the fat guy would be better at.
Carrying shit all day requires cardio anon, the fat guy is gonna get winded after the first trip.
Unlike the girl, he can get fitter and persevere. She has pretty much capped out at nothing. Regardless, he's still stronger, so the original post is fricking moronic.
Post physique fatso
no he wouldn't lmfao you fricking moron carrying shit all day is about your state of fitness, lardass there would get tired instantly with all that fat weighing him down
Yeah bro, in the next war the fat men will totally be left alone while the totally badass women will be drafted. You're a moron if you dont understand the fact the guy will still be more useful.
> n-no y-you're just wrong so there I win!
I accept your concession
Original post said she is stronger. Army of simps try change the goalposts which are entertained. Still wrong.
>simping is when you state the fact that lardasses with no cardio are mogged by normal women with firearms
Try touching your toes before thinking you can break the 21 Foot Rule without dying of a heart attack midway.
>He hasn't ever wondered why men of many ages and sizes are dragged from the streets to die while women arent even bothered with.
She has a gun
I think you're a moron
Fake and gay. The US Government puts real whistle-blowers in prison like Daniel Hale.
Lol russia is losing to gays
make him that pic of that 40yo poltard and it'd be even funnier
>You are civilization
I can understand getting "your" and "you're" mixed up, but how the hell do you manage to swap "your" with "you are"?
Seriously how does that happen? Are you actually moronic?
If the leaks are as big as this dude claims. https://twitter.com/btr_fan21/status/1644384711576256538 Then it's really not a small leak, apparently it has CIA shit and things completely unrelated to Ukraine.
bump
What do you mean the intel was stolen? I thought we had three engineers in the intel room
how come mods get to do cool shit like this but us plebs are stuck with soundless webms. hiroshimoot fix your gay ass website
Because quality control. Mods get to do this shit as a reminder of how fricking annoying it would be if shit wasn't soundless.
Imagine opening a thread and 30 different webms with sound start autoplaying.
>autoplay
skill issue
Webms don't autoplay on PrepHole, put down the crackpipe.
You are currently posting in a thread with an autoplaying sound clip that my comment was in reference to.
Just make mute the default or add it to the settings, problem solved.
Anybody who was on PrepHole in 2010 knows that would be a mistake
Frickers put screamers everywhere
I can't believe the mods still won't let them have dubs back
I can believe it.
I used to post on 8gag when it was decent and post quality here was dropping off massively in 2016-2017. They allowed webms with sound, and webms with the sound cranked to RIP headphone user levels definitely got posted. I still have some saved.
Yeah, frick that. I remember when anons on /k/ would make .gifs of their innawoods stories and put a screamer in them midway through reading.
I thought I was going crazy
Frickin dumbass mods
???
Mods /= not gods
GET OUT OF MY HEAD, CHARLES
>mods continue to bend the knee to their federal handlers
>at this point their shame is so immense they feign pride over it
>they deliberately kill conversation about the current conflict, render it impossible
>their sole job is to ensure a pro-ukraine narrative at all times
>no nuance may be permitted
>the signal must be flooded with noise (bots or turd worlders? virtually the same regardless)
>cant even deny they arent doing it as there's a deluge of (Dead) replies and stupid shit like in the thread
You want to know the biggest sign of western decline? It's not the gas prices, it's not the food prices, it's not the student loan crisis, it's not the impending housing bubble pop, it's not the demographic crisis, it's not the senseless wars overseas, it's not the stolen election, it's not the forgotten generation, it's not even suicide-inducing headlines that are designed to erode your faith in this country. It's your tax dollars going to elaborate gayops on this very board, because infirm basedjak lookalikes working at U.S. intelligence agencies feel like it's "important" to subvert a fricking niche weapons board with homosexual government propaganda. At this point being called a fricking russian in this place is a compliment because it means you're not a robot.
>Waaahhh anyone who disagrees with me is a psyop from the DEEP STATE
Have you considered that pro-russian views are widely hated because they're morally wrong? Unless you're a brainlet /misc/tard whose entire political identity is "against (current thing)", most civilized folk frown upon invading a country unprovoked, razing its cities to the ground and trying to genocide its people. That's why third worlders are generally more likely to be pro-russian while most countries with drinkable tap water are pro Ukraine.
Also I dint read your long winded post but I assume it was moronic.
>Have you considered that pro-russian views are widely hated because they're morally wrong?
Have you considered calling everyone "pro-russian" when they aren't a sheep like you moronic? You aren't a Bushgay circa 2001, you aren't even an SJW, you are horrible new third thing who needs to kill himself immediately.
>t. pro-russian
Literally only two sides to a war like this. It's not like 2003 Iraq where you can wax philosophical about which side is justified. There is no neutral ground. Go back you your fricking echo chamber safe space on /misc/ you whiney little b***h.
>Literally only two sides to a war like this
ZOG slave vs. ZOG slave wearing ushanka
take your pills and the ZOG slaves in the wall will go away.
My daddy didn't like Russia, his daddy didn't like Russia neither. So I don't like 'em. Simple as. Every little bit of goodwill they garnered in my eyes went up in flames when they started kidnapping children and striking civilian centers. Frick 'em all to death, and the smart ones can leave or defect before it's their turn. Frick you if you don't like it. Luv me USA, luv me democracy, luv me tax dollars funding the greatest fighting force the planet has ever seen, and luv me shitposting at you on technology developed here in the US using semiconductors first developed here in the US which are literally why I can tell you to eat shit from thousands of miles away. Stop being malding homosexuals and in a generation or two you can have a good existence, or you can just fricking die and the good ones left after can have a happy life instead. Whatever decision you make I don't give a frick and I will still not like or trust Russia. Even China isn't as moronic as you, even INDIA isn't as moronic as you, and I look forward to watching you get cannabilized for being stupid enough to try and make a joint currency to get out of the hole.
VatBlack folk got a whole lot more silent after this post...
>kidnapping children
>striking civilian centers
The Mall story? even ukrainian photos showed that they had armored vehicles in those garages. you type like a woman lol
Your country put people in space within living human beings lifetimes and this is the best cope you can come up with for stealing kids and killing civilians. You went from being an international partner of commerce and semi respected member nation of the UN to being a reviled laughinstock within a year, and this is the absolute best you can do to keep playing warthunder on a computer instead of IRL. I'm not even going to respond with sources backing up my claims, I'm not going to engage in gish-gallop, I'm just going to hand you this siberian-sized L and let you ruminate in it. My daddy and his daddy didn't like you so I don't like you and that's the single and sole justification I need for that belief, and there is nothing you can do about it.
>Anyone who presents anything contrary to MY belief has to be a Russian shill!
kek okay
>Anyone who doesn't suck the same dick I suck has to be a pig-dick-sucking b***h
Have you tried just not sucking dick? kek
Okay so you concede that you assumed I'm Russian just because of my post?
I consneed that you're either Russian or suck their dicks, yes.
>Grayzone
Will you cite RT next?
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but is useful. I'm looking forward to /rcwg/ and then /ccwg/.
I dont think anyone doubts this place is aggressively astroturfed by fedboys now.
It's an anime board about gun discussion, there is no federal agent here, you are just a chubby loser who doesn't go outside.
>It's an anime board about gun discussion, there is no federal agent here
>The glowies are the ones who like My Little Pony
Uh huh.
Projection, as usual
I'm pretty sure there are federal agents here.
I went to a /k/ meet that was organized here and there were definitely glowBlack folk there.
The only sign of decline I see here is your sorry ass.
>IT'S THE GLOWBlack folk
80% of the people who support Russia tend to be turbocontrarians who's entire ideology is "CURRENT THING BAD", they don't bring any fricking nuance, they just behave in the most insufferable manner possible while support dictatorial shithole who can't even keep their fricking narrative for this war straight.
I dont think anyone supports Russia. What you see is people pointing out Ukraine is corrupt and it's tied up to the Bidens who are also corrupt. The people paid to be here and direct narrative can't stand that because the story must be USA = Avengers and Russia = Darth Adolf Thanos.
>I dont think anyone supports Russia.
Aside form this website's septic tank
>Muh corruption
No, for the most part, no one denies that Ukraine has issues with corruption or the Burisma shit, but you assume that carries the same weight for everyone, which is wrong. For example, a lot of support for Ukraine comes Eastern Europeans such as myself and I'm sorry, but my absolute visceral hatred of Russia has, for the most part, overtaken any concerns I would normally have about such topics.
>a lot of support for Ukraine comes Eastern Europeans such as myself and I'm sorry, but my absolute visceral hatred of Russia has, for the most part, overtaken any concerns I would normally have about such topics.
Which is perfectly fine. You have a vested interest. It's those that chose their side solely off of what the TV told them to do that are the ones vehemently shouting down any and all concerns about Ukraine. They don't have feelings for it like you do. It's just a projection of red team vs blue team for them.
Fair enough
>western society is in decline because /k/ mods delete my moronic vatBlack person posts and make tf2 jokes
i got a warning for pointing out we're heading into a recession and maybe shouldnt spend so much money on ukraine
Its just a gay Janny troony, they do 3 day bans and warnings so you can't appeal and the mods never find out.
janitors are required to log every action they do you know that right?
You got a warning because you're a buffoon parroting FSB fairytales. We have spent so little money to so thoroughly humiliate Russia it is inarguably the single greatest investment this country has ever made since we bought Alaska from them for a pittance because they were so moronic even hundreds of years ago they had to sell wildly commodity rich territory for a pittance. If we spent 10x what we have on Ukraine thus far it would be money well spent, and your individual tax burden would go from being about 170$ a year to a ZOMGWAOWWW! 1,700$ for the pleasure. This isn't even getting into other things on the horizon that will ensure the continued spending of nearly a trillion to well over a trillion per year on natsec and keeping the rest of the world safe from themselves. Stop being a goddamned idiot and you'd probably stop catching warnings, and for your sake I hope you took some PreP before you took the vodka dick so far up your ass your breath smells like their watery nut.
We spent twice what we gave Ukraine on the IRS recently and no one batted an eye.
extremely based post. unlike any I've seen on the chans for the past couple of years.
literally what the fsb did to /misc/ for years
cry about it pidor
>this lengthy response to a tf2 shitpost
actually unironically mindbroken
4chinz is srs bsns, no fun allowed
and holy shit that list of pure projection LMAO
>mfw I read your gay post
what the FRICK
POOTIS
Wha'appened?
WHAT WAS THAT SANDVICH? KILL ALL VATNIKS? GOOD IDEA, AHAHAHAHA!
This is the weirdest thread I've seen on /k/ in a while
Just seeing Jerma in general on PrepHole outside of PrepHole feels weird
Reading this thread at work and I'm very confused
wat jus happen wtf
>sound added to the thread
WHAT?
Mods doing mod stuff
/k/ mod is gay mod
>That sound out of fricking nowhere
God damn it PrepHole.
>America's national civilian / military command structure has no one serious leading it.
Seethe. Biden is a King, a Winner and a Chad, he's singlehandedly defeating and humiliating Pussians without even losing a single American soldier, tank, jet or ship.
RED SPY IS IN THE BASE?
There's literally nothing in these docs that anyone who follows the major OSINT sources didn't already know
It's all mindgames because you have to weigh the idea that it might be fake vs the idea that it might be totally real but you rely on the enemy thinking "they wouldn't possibly leak the real shit, they're not that stupid" and thus plan around what they think you're NOT doing when it reality you're actually doing it
>Open-source information is close to US intelligence
>Open-source information is not just US psyops
So Ukraine's KDR is only ~2.5:1 despite being on the defensive? I thought they were slaughtering entire legions in Bakhmut? They cannot possibly sustain this against Russia, not without direct NATO intervention anyways.
>They cannot possibly sustain this against Russia
Why not?
At a KD ratio of 2.5:1, and assuming the starting point of 830,900 active Russian soldiers and 200,000 active Ukrainian soldiers, Ukraine will run out of personnel at the same time Russia has 330,900 remaining.
Does the USA not know that Putin is not going to call this off under any circumstance unless they win? Is the USA just going to spend billions and wait until UKR has nobody left and then try to get them to negotiate?
Putin is going to get poisoned or get a bullet in his head dude.
>Does the USA not know that Putin is not going to call this off under any circumstance unless they win
That's the idea lmao.
Source: https://www.americanfolklore.net/brer-rabbit-and-the-tar-baby/
TBD. Probably not much that interested parties wouldn't already know. Though the numbers for Ukrainian air defense has me feeling pessimistic that it deteriorated to that extent.
Still a hell of a bigger leak than I think anyone was expecting, and from a fricking public Discord server of all places.
Supposedly there was actually misinformation in those documents and it was leaked on purpose just to cause confusion. But I really don't know anymore
opening and closing this thread over and over again
thanks janny!!!
Does anyone have the other pages related to best Korea and china?
>17.5 kia, at the time recruiting children for the front
>that explosion at the end
Hopefully they teach the next batch of kids about OPSEC
that explosion is literally a tiktok meme, the exact same explosion footage
(it's an edit)
wow no shit, we could've never tell it's fake before you told us
Ah, I didn't know that. I don't have any social media because I'm not a ZoomZoom
Ignorance doesn't moot moronation. Did you really belive 10yos are fighting in trenches?
>Did you really belive 10yos are fighting in trenches?
Yes? This is an existential war for Ukraine, and those kids weren't in uniforms so I assumed they were militia. You're acting like child soldiers have never been used before.
Even Russian casualty estimates are in the low 100 thousands. It's a long way before they run out of able bodied men.
They've got something like, what? 2 million military aged men to tap still?
You didn't notice they had literal wooden plank guns?
I recognize that explosion! From the guy livestreaming and gets hit with a mortar. Early war. Damn russian proganda can't even afford to blow up real children.
if true, thats just cruel of ukroids to give their kids wood cutouts of guns and throw them in the grinder like that. giving them phones is giving a homing beacon for isr linked artillery. these tactics are worse than desperate, its huwite homietry at its worst and shows they dont care about their future.
>if true
Why would Russians even want people to believe this? Like you can't even take bakhmut despite fighting literal children.
They want to believe it so they can justify raping them when they bring them back to Russia
>Someone actually took the time to make this
Russians truly are pathetic
big ups to that homosexual redditor putting a tf2 reference for the thread, i want to kill you Black folk so bad
>600 ground vehicles lost
>60 fighters/bombers
>ooops hold wait s sec
>004 ground vehicles lost
>0 fighters/bombers lost
Why do the Russian shills do this? Do they honestly think people will believe them? It's almost beyond trolling and into the real of serious mental health issues, crazy delusions.
They aren't doing it for foreigners, they're doing it for their own morale. They want the average Russian to think that Russia is still a superpower and they're just holding off o n Ukraine.
>leaked documents
It’s a trick.
INTRUDER ALERT! A RED SPY IS IN THE BASE!
A RED SPY'S IN THE BASE?!
PROTECT THE BRIEFCASE!
The real question is: why leak it publicly? If you're working on behalf of Russia, why not just send the docs to the Russian gov't? Public disclosure lets the enemy know that you know what they know.
It also doesn't make sense for Russia to release it or direct its release, since it paints a very negative picture of the Russian military, a negative picture which far outweighs the propaganda value of potentially straining intelligence sharing agreements.
This is either info warfare/propaganda, or it's a false flag leak to get the Russians to shift their footing.
It's about creating uncertainty. take pic related for example. if ukranians are running low on interceptors, then russia should fly more sorties during this window of opportunity and move men to the front ASAP to make use of their impending air superiority. if ukranians are NOT running low on interceptors in this time table, russia shouldn't do that, because whatever plan they'd come up with would rely on air superiority they don't have.
Put another way, you WANT the russians to think it's legit if it's not, and you WANT them to think it's fake if it is legit.
So if it's actual intel that the russians got their hands on and someone noticed this on the UAF side, it might be smarter to NOT try to reign in the leak and let it become public (although stopping further leaks). Legit intel could then be construed as fake intel as any competent intelligence agency could've stopped the leak weeks ago. Aaaaand now we're at this level of "they know that we know that they know that we know".
I forgot to mention the political axis:
>ALAAAARM: UAF air defenses exhausted
>RU making gainz(tm)
>1000 tiktok videos of the same SU-25 dropping a bomb
>the virgin russian gopnik beat bombing run video vs the chad ukranian women crying in air raid shelter
>reluctant NATO leaders guilt-tripped into sending expensive and secret AA systems
>UA AA better than ever
This is the most damaging document(if true).
Could be used to device an air campaign.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE INNNNNNNNNNTTTTT
I dunno, but i read in media about constant bombing along the front today so maybe that info about shortage of buk and s300 missiles did impact the war.
>How does leaked documents affect warfare?
Mechelen incident
What is DOJ going to do about the thousands/millions of people viewing and reposting these leaks on social media?
>nobody in the thread mentions this leak originated from a discord server named THUG SHAKER CENTRAL and a channel on it named Black personBRAP.FM
LMAOOO
>put Black person in your posts for better opsec
I can see it.
It's probably a mentally unstable bureaucrat fiending for internet clout who went a little too far and committed multiple felonies before he could delete.
>Confirms the actual state of UAF
>Counters US/UAF propaganda
>Makes US politicians less likely to keep funding Ukraine
>Demoralizes Pentagon
>Improves Russian morale
>Sows distrust between US partners
>Makes coalition operations more difficult
>Forces US to intelligence to take added precautions slowing the intelligence cycle
It's a pretty big deal.
Post Russian losses.
2:1 loses. To be expected when attacking a dug in enemy. Outstanding considering the amount of urban fighting. Russia can sustain these losses. Ukraine cannot.
>Russia can sustain these losses
How can they without completely depleting their ability for their own defense?
How many military age men does Russia have?
Not a shill. Obviously the Very Special Military Operation went pear shaped. However, Putin did give those generals (15?) a chance to redeem themselves. He sent them forward to die with honor instead of dying a slow death in a lead mine.
Regardless, this is a case study in attrition warfare. Which side will run out of men and machines first?
>How many military age men does Russia have?
How much equipment do they have and what's their build rate to compensate for destroyed stuff?
>"A-Actually we never... Never! Planned to win in three days, Ukraine is too strong for that! We will win in the end though!"
Lmao
Also shows us the war was over before it began. US knows everything Russia will do before it does it. Russia cannot possible win like that 🙂
Not at all. Nonsense really. Where in the leaked docs does it show this? Post doc. I have personally seen at least 50 of these docs, and unlike the rest of the morons here, I have an actual intelligence background.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230408213915/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/08/us/politics/leaked-documents-russia-ukraine-war.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
I mean you clearly missed a few
>NYT
No you gorilla homosexual. Show the actual documents that indicate this. It's bullshit. Just NYT trying to spin this. Damage control.
The same publication that posted about the leaks in so much detail are... trying to do damage control on the leaks? hmmm
Ok, midwitt, let's try it another way. Show the actual document - not subjective extrapolation of the documents. I have seen the actual documents and do not see how this shows some major intelligence coup for NATO.
Probably higher than NATO is willing to continue to fund Ukraine.
>ok midwit
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That's a lot of words to say, "I'm moronic."
>when you haven't seen the actual documents so your extrapolation function output doesn't match
Sic semper midwits.
>Probably higher than NATO is willing to continue to fund Ukraine.
Boy are you in for a rude awakening
You clearly haven't read the "leaked to public sphere" leaks which is around 14 pages. 4 leaked first then around 12 hours later the rest of them. all were posted on 4ch after they were found on discord. nothing in those 14~ pages shows "deep spying on russians" it's literally a meme made by NYT for whatever reason. the rest of 100 leaked pages are in some paranoid autists HDDs only. Why are they paranoid of posting them? Because the military actually nuked the discord servers that those things were leaked on. I know you are a moronic shill but there you go
Ye sure, that's why every russian telegram is scared out of their pants, when in the past similar "leaks" were laughed at and ignored 🙂
>That last paragraph
Do they seriously believe this shit?
all the russian tgs are saying the leaks are disinfo. LOL
what's your personal take on the leaked docs glowie-kun?
>Confirms the actual state of UAF
>Counters US/UAF propaganda
>Makes US politicians less likely to keep funding Ukraine
>Demoralizes Pentagon
>Improves Russian morale
>Sows distrust between US partners
>Makes coalition operations more difficult
>Forces US to intelligence to take added precautions slowing the intelligence cycle
As posted above.
What do you think? About two more weeks?
ye ignore the massive buildup of forces, worked well in Kharkiv and Kherson 😉
>Losses in war
What's your point? Remember that time 25,000,000 Russians died in WWII? Russia remembers. This is attrition warfare.
it sure is, you're right 😉
>Confirms the actual state of UAF
In line with military analyst and OSINT predictions based on available data
>Counters US/UAF propaganda
Such as?
>Makes US politicians less likely to keep funding Ukraine
Post one example resulting from this leak
>Demoralizes Pentagon
How do you demoralize a building
>Sows distrust between US partners
probably the only thing with a hint of truth, intelligence operations will be more cautious about what they share (it's why Ukraine is hiding it's plans in the first place)
>Makes coalition operations more difficult
not at all?
>Forces US to intelligence to take added precautions slowing the intelligence cycle
see point on distrust, probably break the legs of the idiot who got phished too
You forgot to mention
>Confirms the Russian military is a big piece of shit and it's winter offensive was a disastrous failure
>US satellite intel has complete and total operation vision of the Russians down to unit level, so they can't do shit without the Ukrainians countering them.
That KIA to wounded ratio is shameful for a modern military.
>random tard on PrepHole “leaks” a “secret government document” filled with OSINT-tier analysis
>somehow people think it’s real
>another tard edits it with moronic numbers
>vatnigs start spamming it
>now morons on Twitter are arguing about which fake and gay version of the fake and gay document is the real fake and gay document
Baudrillard help us
>We have low confidence in Russian (RUS) And Ukrainian (UKR) attrition rates and inventories because of information gaps, OPSEC and IO efforts, and potential bias in UKR information sharing
is quite the admission. 1) They actually use numbers provided by the Ukrainians for their assessments 2) they know the Ukrainians are lying. Incredible. Can you imagine living in a world in which serious decision-makers base their actions on Banderite propaganda shitposts & random Turkish bloggers.
So is there a list of these 80 or whatever pages?
Everyone reposting these leaks is going to get v& by the FBI
>what is third party doctrine with respect to the 1st amendment
You are brown.
>every single leak from this point on will be accompanied by leftypol photoshopping the contents to keep their illusion of political correctness
Doesn't make a hell of a lot of a difference for the muscovites now.
apparently these leaks included intelligence info and assessments on latin american countries.
does anyone know what it said specifically?
A lot of them weren't save, and those that did save them aren't interested in spreading them further.
There is a collage showing off at least 30, apparently in total there were over 100.
There's one about ways to get Israel to send aid.
It should be obvious to non-morons that any "leaks" with only public-domain info and easily made-up crap isn’t real and is just an infowar action. ESPECIALLY when using the media as an offensive infowar tool was being discussed earlier.
There was some pretty damning stuff regarding SAM and artillery expenditures
proper disinfo includes truthful information
does anyone have the image of the different ukrainian BTGs and their equipment from the slides?
I've seen news sites mention that among them are CIA briefings on topics related to China and the Middle East. I haven't stumbled upon them myself yet though.
An Israeli news site dropped a part of it.
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hyyl811egh
>according to signals intelligence
What the frick is the CIA capable of if they're just tapped into the communications of the Mossad leadership?
The source of the documents must have gotten burned so they just dumped them. Only way it makes sense to drop 100 documents that would otherwise have intel value
Things in that document pretty much said that NATO is arming Ukraine for a spring offensive, which is about as meaningful as uncovering secret that sun does, indeed, rise in the morning
Enough chit chat.
Where do I get the original leak files?
These leaks are 100% deception
>How does leaked documents affect warfare?
Fake and gay bullshit? Not at all
>burred out images
>didn't blur out post numbers or the text to stop effortless lookup
lol
>How dare you censor classified material!
Tracey is such a fricking gay it's unreal
A normal person's response would be threefold: leaking confidential secrets is bad except in cases like Snowden where the public needs to know about government wrongdoing, reposting leaks is legal free speech, and refusing to repost leaks and draw attention to muh country's mistakes/interests is also fine.
Instead he's obsessed with finding nonexistent hypocrisy since that's how boomer centrists think.