Pearl Harbor was the American people's fault

My admiral dindu nuffin!

>Who, then, is to blame? Look at it logically: the attack succeeded because Admiral Kimmel and General Short could not give Pearl Harbor adequate protection. They could not give it because they did not have it to give. They did not have it because Congress would not authorize it. Congress is elected by the American people. And the blame for Pearl Harbor rests squarely on the American people and nowhere else.

https://archive.org/details/AdmiralHalseysStory

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He is correct, the Americans lack the spirit of the warrior to properly prepare naval bases.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here he is touching a child.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of dipshit blames an attack on the defenders?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look at it logically.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, look, even if Pearl Harbor was made into some great bastion of American power, that would not have deterred a determined attacker dead-set on mauling the fleet. They'd have just brought more toys to the party, knowing in advance what they'd have to accomplish their goal.

        The 'fault' for an attack's success, barring some special incompetence on the part of the defenders, lies with those who planned the attack.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They'd have just brought more toys to the party
          Like what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            horrors beyond perception

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was pushing responsibility for the poor response to the attack from the navy to everyone else. He notes the lack of patrol aircraft and a large number of Japanese being local.

      Basing the fleet at pearl, lack of torpedo nets, failure to respond to Japanese aircraft being picked up on radar, fearing local sabotage more than attack are all civilian fault.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Had Japan defended their home islands properly, they never would have gotten nuked. Let alone twice. Pathetic.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The blame for sailing the fleet into a typhoon rests squarely with the American people. Look at it logically: they elected President Roosevelt, who appointed the Joint Chiefs, of which the Navy's representative gave me command. They elected the Congress which voted for the war we're in and which send those ships into the Pacific.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, how come the British Pacific Fleet was undamaged during Typhoon Cobra?
      It comes down to the higher moral character of the British people.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the yanks knew all about the incoming attack

    read John Tolands bookon Pearl Harbour

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >read
      No.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the yanks knew all about the incoming attack
      you need to read it again if you think so

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >yanks knew all about the incoming attack
      God, I wish. Imagine Kido Butai launching its strike only to immediately get ambushed by SBDs, torching half the Japanese carrier fleet before the war's even officially started.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Admiral Halsey was a motherfucking imbecile. I can't think of any success that was actually his doing. This is the guy who threw a temper tantrum for 30 minutes while Taffy 3 was getting slaughtered. Shit admiral. In fact most USN top brass were pants on head retards, just look at that fucktard Ernest King. Spruance was the only one worth a damn.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      While it was a shitty thing to do, I don’t actually think it would have changed anything if he didn’t sulk for a little while

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    King was excellent. Fletcher was good. Nimitz was fair.

    Turner was a power hungry dolt. McCain was an incompetent drunk. Halsey was an unstable mediocrity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot Mitscher, “The Ferocious Gnome”.

      When Halsey rotated out, it was Mitscher’s Fleet.

      I forget who it was, but our Sub admirals were superb. They did to Japan what the Kraut U-Boats couldn’t do to Britain.
      They actually LISTENED to their boat skippers and got the defective torpedoes fixed,(no small feat in a war).
      Too bad our guys didn’t have reliable torpedoes in ‘42 and ‘43. The war would have been shortened by a year.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tbf, the Germans had nearly identical issues with the G7, leading to Doenitz claiming that never has a soldier been sent to war with a more useless weapon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vice Admiral Lockwood was the one who really pushed for the Ordnance Bureau to get its shit together with torpedoes.
        Nimitz also had extensive experience with submarines and recognized their value.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Childhood is thinking that Halsey was good.
    Adulthood is realizing that he was navy's version of MacArthur minus the few good traits MacArthur had.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >positive features of dugout Doug
      Like what?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being the radar operators who were didling around with it and saw the coming first wave on the screen, report it, only to be told it is propably the scheduled incoming supply planes from California just a tad early.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not realizing the lack of US preparedness was a LIHOP strategy to give casus belli and generate popular support for an otherwise totally unpopular war.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >actually believing this retarded boomer conspiracy shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >don't believe your lying eyes

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This guy was just coping because he sailed his forces into two separate typhoons and had a spergout when Nimitz called him out on being baited at Leyte Gulf. He was valuable during the early war when the country needed aggressive tard-rage, but he should've been tactfully retired after the first typhoon incident. Spruance and Mitscher were the commanders that the US needed once it got it's shit together.

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