Past science fiction and war thrillers have historically used Russia and China as the favorite bad guys of fiction. China now owns most of Hollywood - they will never be the bad guys again, they're the money men. Russia meanwhile has been exposed as a paper tiger with the war in Ukraine - previous fears about their capabilities now seem like gross overestimates.
Who will the "Good guys" go to war with in the future? Will it be Mexico like in Ghost In The Shell? Will it be the Middle East, for time and all of eternity? Or perhaps some underdog from Southeast Asia or South America.
ITT Speculate on the future of action movies, science fiction, and spy thrillers.
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russia has been proven to be week
russia is stronger than china
Not a chance Ivan, they can atleast afford smart bombs, and MRE's
>russia has been proven to be week
Much too week...s
It'll be corporations and the CIA. Every movie will be about the twist where the supposed good guys are really the bad guys, just like Hollywood has been doing ever since the late '60s.
>corporations and the cia are the good guys
exactly; villainizing any other nation, even blatantly fricked ones like Russia or North Korea, is still seen as jingoistic and punching down because America already fricked everybody up. Hollywood is just going to continue with the postmodern "are we the baddies" type introspection that it's been doing already for decades.
You're right and it's fricking miserable. I hate this self hating bullshit and whiny self righteous dreck. Makes me miss the vibe of the 80s. There was CIA and corps turning out to be shady plot twists then too, but there was a whole lot of unabashed 'Murrica, frick yeah!' to balance it out.
Top Gun is the first movie like that I've seen in a long time.
Some obvious answers to begin with:
Iran/Pakistan - Obvious choices to continue the eternal GWOT in the Middle East, aggressive and volatile internally while still having the functional central government that Iraq and Afghanistan lacked.
Personally, I think Mexico would be an interesting choice. Their military has been modernizing lately including new personal equipment on the infantry level, and they see nearly constant training and action against the drug cartels that infest the country. Go watch the Mexican Marines helmet footage of the El Chapo raid, pretty cool stuff.
>Personally, I think Mexico would be an interesting choice. Their military has been modernizing lately including new personal equipment on the infantry level, and they see nearly constant training and action against the drug cartels that infest the country. Go watch the Mexican Marines helmet footage of the El Chapo raid, pretty cool stuff.
This would only happen if Mexico elects a true conservative or worse, a pro China iconoclast figure. Either would have to jump Mexican military funding by a tremendous amount to turn them into a power. Despite the memes about Mexico being poor they actually could afford to. They're the twelfth biggest economy and very industrialized.
Whatever happens, we'll always have the Tractoring of 2022
I don't give a flying frick about ruskies vs ukies but this was objectively goddamn hilarious.
The gypsie of kiev made out like a robber while the northern front lasts. Even nabbed himself a TOS.
The tractor fun spread, too. When Finland and Sweden first announced formal intent to join NATO, Russia sent a bunch of missile to sit on their border with Finland as a show-of-force.
>In response, the Fins put a bunch of tractors on their side.
Is it even worth recovering that piece of shit?
scrap metal, plus they usually have machineguns and ammo inside
Take a look at that godawful Midway reboot.
The thing the Cult of Pooh will do is have studios make 'historical' films recontextualizing everything to make it China-centric, or hyper-aggrandize the accomplishments of or injustices done to the Chinese during WW2. You're going to see the makeup of these movies become yellower than the piss trough at a baseball stadium on free beer Friday.
What are you talking about? Midway was crap, but what exactly about it was china influenced in any way?
Doolittle raid and the pilot(s?) floundering around in China, remember?
Oh no, why would you mention first american attack on japanese soil? The one that directly influenced nip command to push for midway?
It must be chinese influence!
Why bother with all the screentime with Chink commissars in bumfrick China getting curb stomped by the IJA?
Do you not remember the entire do little raid sequence and extended escape through China which had nothing to do with the battle of midway whatsoever? It was added by the Chinese financier of the film.
>injustices done to the Chinese during WW2
There weren't any though. They deserved everything that happened to them.
oh no, russia being a laughing stock of this century doesn't mean they're not "the bad guys" anymore.
everyone hates them now more then ever, like it was with germans, with middle east etc. vatniks just solidified their subhuman position.
and china is not going to be 'okay' in the near future, that's for sure, as the tensions in the pacific rise.
we're in for a wild ride anons.
Having trouble remembering when China was a typical bad guy. Usually it was more of a general 'ortiental' and tended to be a standin for Japanese or some vague southeast asian. Everyone in the US hates China and what the government is doing so the potential to sell them as villians is pretty consistent, even if they aren't specifically labeled.
Even when they made the second Red Dawn movie, they replaced China that the script originally called for with North Korea.
Battlefield 4 features an American invasion of Hong Kong to stop a coup from the Mainland, IIRC.
This, the only thing that immediately comes to mind isn't even a war or action movie, it's this thriller from 1997 called Red Corner, starring Richard Gere. I guess Lethal Weapon counts too, since the Triads are the bad guys in that?
Agree, I don't know if it ever has been the case, "yellow peril" aside (e.g., Fu Manchu) but that is an essentially 19th century stereotype. Even by the point of Dr No that was getting a bit long in the tooth.
>Past science fiction and war thrillers have historically used Russia and China as the favorite bad guys of fiction
Except the ones in your picrel of course, where the badguys are corrupt politicians, autists and a CIA-ran Texas.
The war in Mexico was a blatant ploy by said country to interfere in a civil war under a UN mandate for the sole purpose of achieving its geopolitical goal.
>I need muh Hollywood propaganda with all of USG's favorite enemies
I'm expecting generic "Sokovia" bullshit with clichéd buddy cop agent from the fake rogue nation, who isn't quite as good as the American but she can pick locks and then say something sassy like "what, they don't teach that in America?". But she can't drive a stick shift and when given a 'look' she will become indignant and say "just shut up OK???" Then she'll show up in the nick of time to save the hero by unlocking his handcuffs so he can stop the baddies right as they're about to blow up Denmark with the gigacannon, to an overblown violin orchestra signalling you should feel awe and relief.
And then a massive enemy force will appear on the horizon and then the smart black guy character looks and then says to his diverse special forces group "Uh guys, I think you're gonna want to see this!" to which the leader white guy character replies "We've got company!"
Brazil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quiet_War
oh damn, I never heard of this gundam fanfiction.
Brazil can barely govern itself let alone go to war.
China wouldn't be too different from Russia in a conflict, considering they haven't even been in a real one for much longer than Russia and their society is similarly corrupt. IIRC the new Call of Duty game that's coming out is going with Iran and Mexican cartels as the bad guys.
>they will never be the bad guys again
They are bad guys in reality and for most people no amount of shitty cape-shit won't change it. There are still independent media and china is increasingly more trigger happy with bans so they will gradually prohibit any out-side media.
India!
Latin America unions like in CoD: Ghosts
~~*nazis*~~
What's funny to me is that before this embarrassing "special military operation" kicked off, people in recent years had started to get sick of Russia as the bad guy all the time. The Cold War had ended decades ago and people just didn't view Russia in the same way. Remember that recent CoD game that acted like the highway of death was a warcrime and blamed Russia for it? People rightfully gave them shit for it.
I miss Saddam being the baddie. Eventhough Iraq was and is a small irrelevant country on other side of the world, the USA actually invading them made them more interesting baddie since they were actually in a war with US and they were considered an enemy in real life.
I couldn't care less about Russian or North Korean baddies because they just rattle their swords in real life but couldn't be an actual threat to US even if they wanted to go to war in real life.
I wish we could get some war fiction kino with the Chinese as the baddies because they are sort of aesthetic and their image of being on par with US is merely under heavy scrutiny but not completely destroyed yet, which would make them a cool baddie.
I think we were on our way to see China as the baddies but then Biden sort of forgot the atrocities committed by the CCP, probably because mainstream media and normies can only focus on one big problem at a time.
China are the money-holders now, media is funded by big chinese investors.It will get worse and worse as time goes on. Fewer and fewer Chinese crimes will be reported on.
Great Britain invades the US with thousands of Millwall supporters
>china owns hollywood
>race swapping still happening
>wokeshit getting worse
>writing getting worse
what
Seems like the perfect thing to do towards an adversary nation
Aliens. Major corporations that got the world by the balls. Corruption in government and how some random average Joe got pulled into bullshit he didn't want nor care for. Plenty of options. Problem is they now have to set up some plot instead of relying on what's already available irl.
Hopefully in ten years there won't BE a Hollywood.
Why is the good Ghost in The Shell intro so hard to find?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs1sp
>Who will the "Good guys" go to war with in the future? Will it be Mexico like in Ghost In The Shell?
The US collapses into 3 different countries in the late 2020s-early 2030s in Ghost in the Shell because they failed to succeed in an invasion of Mexico and end up driven out by various Chinese/Euro backed factions in Mexico. The original Ghost in the Shell time line doesn't work in our timeline however because the first comics were written when the USSR existed and in Ghost in the Shell, the USSR never collapsed but had a successful perestroika period and became a major market economy power like the China of today. Nuclear world war 3 destabilized the US and the USSR. USSR broke up with Russia itself being democratic and moderate, getting a EU/US sponsored Marshall plan. Following this, the US had a period of economic unrest and invaded Mexico but was repelled as the war became unaffordable. Afterwards resentments between states lead to the US breaking into 3 factions. The deep south which was poorer but more conservative became a non-democratic military dictatorship called the American empire, the North East and most of the west coast ended up joining a loose confederation with the EU and now democratic Russia and the remainder of the US holds out is moderate and claims itself the last bastion of the true USA.
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in that very series you posted the CIA is up to interesting shenanigans, guess what
But the US turns out to be bad in GiTS. As well as Japanese glowies.
There's like 3 different US governments in the setting i believe. The bad guy in the story specifically are the American Empire/Monarchy or something.
Failed intervention in Mexicos civil war as well as after effects of WW3 ends up causing the US to divide into three countries in GiTS. The second most powerful nation to spring up from the US is the American Empire, a military dictatorship is the bad guy, while the coastal parts of the US are the "good" US. The midwest/rockies fricks off with Canada and Mexico and becomes isolationist. The American Empire again tries to conquer central America later in the time line which leads to it's ultimate collapse into it's own civil war. It's basically like if the US tried to support it's current military expenditures on only 1/3rd of it's budget to regain the glory that the super power it used to be apart of held. Much like Russia in Ukraine actually.
>Will it be Mexico like in Ghost In The Shell
No because nobody would believe the US caring about anything Mexico could muster.
>Will it be the Middle East, for time and all of eternity?
Maybe, depends on how badly we still want that oil and territory.
>Or perhaps some underdog from Southeast Asia or South America
Not likely, people would throw a fit.
We'll never see another like Angel Cop either with the """American""" bankers as villains
Japan has been fully pozzed http://landofthesettingsun.com
White nationalists, christians, rebellious veterans, militia groups
This, israelites are already going into full production towards this
It'll just be "Insurgents"
Theyre easy because they want to kill innocent people so theyre clearly the badguys
Where have you been?
>Who will the "Good guys" go to war with in the future?
Judging by all the cynicism, outrage, and paranoia present in our culture right now, they'll just go with a dystopian US that didn't give them everything they wanted. Whiny c**ts and their eternal insatiable crusade.
Besides that? Literal aliens as stand ins for the (dearly departed) Soviets or the (totally not) Chinese.
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