That's not fair. Of course Putin wants peace. As soon as he has captured Ukraine and what other nations he wants to occupy. At that point, where he needs to consolidate his gains and might be weak enough that the remaining foreign countries could become a threat, of course he wants peace! Until he has fully rebuilt his strength, that is - then peace might become less important again.
>Putin said he wants "mir" and they interpret it as "peace"
All he wants is peace....peace....peace!
A little peace of Germany. A little peace of France. A little slice of Turkey, and a bit of Greece, Perhaps.
Same word also means 'outer space' and 'sea'. I think the best definition would be 'frickhuge' but oh well. From a linguistic point of view the russian language is quite interesting.
They did not want the war, you just moved from west germany to the russian borders against your promise. overthrow government in ukraine, divided the country and start a war agains the etnic russians in east ukraine
>muh promise
Nobody promised you shit, you inbred orc savage. >muh CIA coup
Ukraine chose to replace its government because their corrupt, traitorous leader was a servant to Russia who betrayed them utterly and tried to murder and terrorize everyone who dared to protest against him. >muh ethnic russians
If your horde cared about Russian lives they wouldn't have attacked Ukraine while pretending they weren't even there and started this war based on lies and deception in the first place, then conscripted all these "ethnic Russians" you keep harping about and sent them to their deaths with nothing but a pot helmet and a bolt-action rifle older than their grandfathers.
I'm just gonna say it: ethnic Russians are a proven fifth column in every country they have significant numbers in and they should all be given a choice: return to Russia with nothing but the clothes on their backs, or be ethnically cleansed.
Russians >Le Monke
wat... did you even read their post moron?
2 years ago
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>calls for mindless and counterproductive genocides that will only serve to fuel Putin's propaganda machine and stop the massive brain drain that is a key facet in destroying Russia's ability to function as a serious power >not an FSB shill
>you just moved from west germany to the russian borders against your promise
All the bases in the east existed before the end of the cold war and are run by those country's armies. Yes "technically" they're NATO bases but in actuality most were made in soviet ties with soviet armies in mind and up until recently were post-soviet in nature, devoid of NATO planning.
Why didn't Russia just invite the ethnic Russians in Ukraine into Russia without stealing the land and have the Ukraine government write IOU cash payments to the families?
You have to be older than 18 & graduated from high school to wrap your head around this one. Russia designed a program almost 80 years ago where they deliberately exported tens of millions of russians into other countries. It was planned genocide. Native populations were gulaged, slaughtered, enslaved. Educated people and leaders were targeted in particular. They were killed or otherwise removed to suppress dissent while replacing them with good little vodka Black person slaves.
Then, when the USSR fell apart in 1992, the dregs of russia rose up and claimed it was the legitimate inheritor of everything Soviet. One of the first & most immediate policies put into place was to deny russian citizenship to all russians that had been abandoned in all these other countries. Something like 20 million in East Germany, but up to 50 million or more between all the ex-Soviet occupied nations.
search strings "stateless person" "stateless person russian"
Many of these people ended up without any citizenship at all, refusing to obtain citizenship in the countries they lived in ... despite generous programs to help them obtain citizenship. Because, russia refused to let them obtain citizenship and refused to even let many enter russia.
It was all by design. It is all by design,
It is specifically to use these abandoned ex-Soviets as an excuse to invade other countries and "liberate" them so they can be "independent" and "sovereign" in all the useful ways that Transnistria is.
That's fricking why. It's not a bug, it's a feature. It is THE Plan, and has been from the beginning. All the God damned vatBlack person lies and bullshit you see posted here from within the EU is vodka Black folk squatting in vatnik slums waiting for the USSR to come back, committing treason every hour they breathe against the country they live in, and some are even citizens of. Frankly, it deserves the death penalty. They're actively working for the enemy while being parasites in the countries they live in.
They did. Some time after Georgia they distributed Russian passports to encourage Ukrainians immigrate to Russia.
Okay, but why didn't they do it again if they cared so much about the ethnic Russians?
As already explained by other replies, Russia hasn't the least frick to give about "ethnic russians." It's just another vatpigger excuse to ape out and scream in pain from your repression while they rape your toddler to death. Russians planned for this during & since World War II. Literally murdering millions upon millions of people in their own countries to replace them with "ethnic russians." It started out as merely genocide to kill and replace native populations.
Spoiler alert: It still is genocide. Just a slightly different cope & circus show, like watching any five year old change his story 15 different times every day when he gets caught shitting on the living room floor.
> Russia has no agency > Russia was forced into the war
You dumb motherfricker, the west was still trying to negotiate to prevent the war even up to the moment when Russia rolled across the border in February. Russia wanted this war very badly until they started losing.
>remove some of the sanctions
How the frick does he think hes gonna do that?
only thing Russia produces the west needs is gas and since nordstream is no more thats out of the picture
Putin's probably looking to outlast western will to support the war. It's his only option for victory on his terms now.
There's so little hope of that working it's comical. Russia is trying to invade and occupy a foreign country while under embargos. The west is just sending equipment. One costs a lot more human and economic capital, and thus will, than the other.
>remove some of the sanctions
How the frick does he think hes gonna do that?
only thing Russia produces the west needs is gas and since nordstream is no more thats out of the picture
god was not pleased when they put a sliver of the true cross on their black sea flagship. things have been going downhill for them ever since. unfortunately since the flagship is now dissolving at the bottom of the black sea, they don't have the option of appeasing god by removing it and returning it to a holy location.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they don't have the option of appeasing god by removing it and returning it to a holy location
like where, putin's larp church run by the FSB controlled fake orthodoxy?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ironically this piece of true cross will not dissolve even in thousands of years. Black sea has no oxygen at the bottom of it so nothing lives there. We even found wooden ancient Greek ships in "perfect" condition down there
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not even a piece of the true cross... or rather unlikely.
It's really just some log they found buried during the crusades and then just claimed it was THE true cross. Like we don't even know if it belonged to ANY cross and even if it did which the chances are already slim enough, what are the chances it was THAT specific cross?
So maybe running around worshipping some piece of just some fricking log like it's the greatest holiest thing ever is inevitably gonna backfire on you...
We've been hearing for months now that winter was gonna be really cold, now it's really warm, what changed? I've never had any faith in these far out weather forecasts, how accurate are they? morons incorrectly predict rain less than 2 days out all the time but I'm supposed to believe they know the average temperature months out??
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We've been hearing for months now that winter was gonna be really cold
Who the frick said this
I have not seen any credible prediction made that this year's winter was going to be especially cold (in Europe).
2 years ago
Anonymous
I heard someone saying that Australian winter will be especially cold this year
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good. Russia will build a gas pipeline there by then. Slave Z
2 years ago
Anonymous
You mean next year, this years winter has been over for months
2 years ago
Anonymous
Those predictions are always bullshit anyway
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dont know how about other countries, but German forecaster, the big ones, say that every preciction that names explicite numbers and rain beyond 1 week is not believable. Everything after 1 week is a range and the span gets bigger with time.
And what i heard was that they prognosed or expect harsher cold 3 days or a week in a mild winter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's not entirely correct, we can predict broad trends months in advance thanks to modern computing technology. The thing is, these trends are inherently prone to error when unexpected variables come into play and, say, create a large cold front that disrupts an otherwise warm season. So a broadly warmer winter is likely, but far from certain
2 years ago
Anonymous
at least here in finland they forecast a slightly milder than average winter a month or two back already
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We've been hearing for months now that winter was gonna be really cold
They say that literally every year where I live, yet it never happens.
2 years ago
Anonymous
there hasn't been a cold winter in europe for like a decade now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
hurray for global enwarmening
2 years ago
Anonymous
Weather forecasting is really difficult.
You can't really make definitive statements about the winter in March or April, but you can say that heating will likely cost more money. Hence "winter cold".
Now that it is mid October we have some data on where things may be going. There's a cold wave coming up and generally winters don't stay cold for 4 months straight, so a mild period is expected afterwards. Hence "winter not cold".
2 years ago
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2 years ago
Anonymous
>How does this control the weather? >Uhhhhhh ... RANDOM QUANTUM BULLSHIT, GO! SOMETHING SOMETHING TESLA!
2 years ago
THIS ABSOLUTE REDDIT TWITTER MIDWIT
>NO YOU CANT HEAT UP WATER IN THE ATMOSPHERE WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVESSSSS HAHAHHAA IM SO SMART I BELEIEVE TRANSATLANTIC GLOBALIST SCIENCE COMMUNICATOR NARRATIVES HAHAHAHAHA FRICKING FLAT EARTHS AMIRITE?!?!?! xDDDddddd OH YEAH I LOVE MY EURO KEK GOVERNMENT FOR MAKING ME PAY 10000000 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR HEAT AND ELECTRICITY BECAUSE ******ITS THE ONLY WAY****** TO STOP CLIMATE CHANGE
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5984239A/en >Weather modification by artificial satellites
Abstract
A Satellite Weather Modification System (SWMS) uses earth satellites to harness solar energy to modify the thermodynamics and composition of the earth's atmosphere. SWMS has three subsystems: The first subsystem includes a network of earth satellites called Satellite Engines (SEs) used to reflect solar energy and/or transform solar energy into other forms of energy beams discharged at specified locations. The media at these locations and the media through which the energy beams pass absorb these energies and change them into heat. >muhhh chem trails
>CIA Director John Brennan discusses Stratospheric Aerosol Injection.
real talk though most of these are basically grey/black darpa projects and are not widespread in use or highly refined and sophisticated.. probably funded through all that funnelled f-35 money or maybe cia afghan opium? :^) remember PEOPLE LIKE YOU were saying "muh aurora" whenever military hypersonic research was brought up because those type of things are limited hangouts or red herrings and NOW THE FRICKING PENTAGON IS TELLING US THERE ARE FRICKING AYYYYYYYYYYLMAOS it's which layer of the psyop are you invested in?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>https://streamable.com/iewsh0
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NO YOU CANT HEAT UP WATER IN THE ATMOSPHERE WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVESSSSS
Back to /x/ with you, schizo. Also, take your meds. You might wanna do some back of the envelope calculations on the amounts of energy required. I take it you're also the kind of moron who thinks one can use a nuke (or even just a gun, kek) to disperse a hurricane?
>muhhh chem trails >I-IS ... IS THAT A HECKIN' PROPOSED GEOENGINEERING METHOD!?!?!? THAT MEANS IT'S FEASIBLE AND OF COURSE ALSO ALREADY HAPPENING™!!!! MUH NAZI SCIENTISTS! MUH BLACK PROJECTS!! MUH DICK!!!
Seek help.
2 years ago
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>You might wanna do some back of the envelope calculations on the amounts of energy required
ai augmented butterfly effect baybayyyyyyy
>NOW THE FRICKING PENTAGON IS TELLING US THERE ARE FRICKING AYYYYYYYYYYLMAOS it's which layer of the psyop are you invested in?
lmao
So I guess now aliens are too cliché for conspiritards because le ebil gubbermint is openly entertaining the idea and normies are starting to take it seriously? Hilarious! Kinda reminds me of that funny turbo downie Eddie Bravo in this regard. If he hears "the demons" talking about it that means it definitely is fake (like space).
>So I guess now aliens are too cliché for conspiritards
NO DUDE, NO WAY IT COULD BE ANOTHER CONTRIVED CIA MEDIA NARRATIVE TO DISGUISE HIGHLY ADVANCED TECHNOLGOY AND TO JUST GENERALLY PSYOP THE POPULATION SOME MORE >we need more money to defend against the aliens which are actually our own black budget >muh eddie bravo
YOU LOVE YOUR FLAT EARTH STRAWMEN
2 years ago
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>ai augmented butterfly effect baybayyyyyyy >MUH MAGIC COMPUTER MIND
Okay, moron. One poorly understood meme concept at a time please.
>YOU LOVE YOUR FLAT EARTH STRAWMEN
If it quacks like a duck ...
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>I-IS ... IS THAT A HECKIN' PROPOSED GEOENGINEERING METHOD!?!?!? THAT MEANS IT'S FEASIBLE AND OF COURSE ALSO ALREADY HAPPENING™!!!! MUH NAZI SCIENTISTS! MUH BLACK PROJECTS!! MUH DICK!!!
HEY DUDE IM JUST POINTING OUT THAT ALL THE YEARS OF GASLIGHTING BY NARRATIVE-BELIEVERS THAT CHEMTRAILS ARE FLAT EARTH TIER WAS PROVEN TO BE JUST THAT, GASLIGHTING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT BE AS WIDESPREAD AS IT WAS BELIEVED BY THE HARDCORE TRUTH COMMUNITY, IT WAS STILL A REAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND RESEARCH PROJECT AS PROVEN BY FRICKING MOCKINGBIRD JOHN BRENNAN SPEAKING AT THE FRICKING SPOOK FRICK CFR MEETING
2 years ago
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>NOW THE FRICKING PENTAGON IS TELLING US THERE ARE FRICKING AYYYYYYYYYYLMAOS it's which layer of the psyop are you invested in?
lmao
So I guess now aliens are too cliché for conspiritards because le ebil gubbermint is openly entertaining the idea and normies are starting to take it seriously? Hilarious! Kinda reminds me of that funny turbo downie Eddie Bravo in this regard. If he hears "the demons" talking about it that means it definitely is fake (like space).
Europe used to live in mudhuts and walk around bare chested most of the year round
Where did the freeze over winter delusion even come in, simply because of frail 80 year olds and homeless drunks?
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's just coping and projection from people who don't look at weather type maps and think europe has as much permafrost as siberia and kolyma...
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/vBrOt9x.jpg
Unironic cope
Yeah, they don't have much left to hang hope on so now they're doing the General Winter meme blindly without actually understanding it, weather, relative logistics or anything at all.
But it's convenient cope for them right now because it's close enough they can claim it can change the situation yet far enough that going to be instantly disproved, buys them months of "two more weeks", plus it's "out of their hands" so it doesn't depend on Russian competence. And also gives them a cope out, they can claim "oh winter was less this year we only lost due to bad luck".
2 years ago
Anonymous
Unironic cope
2 years ago
Anonymous
What does this even mean? I live in Germany and I only use heating to stop mold from growing. The winters here have always been pretty damn warm.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>tfw a White Christmas only actually happens every five years or so
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do russian dont know what insulation is? I dont have to turn on heating during -10c winter, I just put a sweater on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Do russian dont know what insulation is?
They don't even know what indoor plumbing is, dude.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes we should all listen to pewtin
one more season the snow cover will rise and europe will understand
2 years ago
Anonymous
american vatnigs who have no idea what the European weather is like
wtf I'm going skiing in January, give me a cold European winter
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's been like this for years bro. Most ski resorts have been doing really bad. In the Netherlands people only go to Austria and Switzerland to get shit faced in some mountain cabin anyway so they're still going.
Import restrictions are huge, even if Russia can't sell gas to Europe anymore being able to buy shit like chips and ball bearings again will be vital to rebuilding the army.
But the anon asked how he thinks that would actually be achieved.
Like, the EU and especially America are not going to start selling Russia war-sensitive materiel just because they aren't fighting (without ending the war, and planning on fighting it later again).
They'll have to stop in 2 weeks to begin fall conscription. They're not done they just don't have the bandwidth to continue to mobilize and get new conscripts at the same time.
That sounds about right, he'll say anything to buy himself more time to train up his mobilized troops.
Well on the other hand you've got establishment conservatives pretty much unanimously supporting aid packages to Ukraine and the expansion of NATO. I think the conservative media is just trying to play off of people's nuclear anxieties and make Biden look like a warmonger before election season. If a Republican wins I would expect the war to keep on rolling on a similar course, unless it's someone crazy like Trump again
2 years ago
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>republicans >unless it's someone crazy
Anon, you didn't really think that one through very thoroughly, did you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah, he is confusing democrats and neocons now with the republican party
Gop can't undo support if they win midterms anyway. Midterms won't change anything in Ukraine for Russia. Plus most Republicans support aid to Ukraine anyway.
>announcement that mobilization ends this month >at the same time get suspiciously drafted while Russian shill channels get knocks on their doors
They really fricked him didnt they?
I don't even get why those unfortunate wenches are doing this. They usually look considerably better without that shit. Is this yet another side-effect of getting raped as a child?
>Igor Girkin heroically went to the front >Igor Girkin heroically died fighting the Ukro-Nazis.
Not only do they get rid of a problem but they will make him into a martyr. Now that's the Soviet way
>announcement that mobilization ends this month >at the same time get suspiciously drafted while Russian shill channels get knocks on their doors
They really fricked him didnt they?
https://i.imgur.com/gFzUQ12.jpg
He is going to war.
Just like the old times.
Can someone explain to me what he did to piss off Putin?
He's been careful to avoid pointing the finger directly at Putin himself, but that means he's been extra vocal about accusing Putin's butt buddies in the kremlin, and they still have more than enough power to make shit like this happen. Putin himself likely doesn't give a shit. Controlled opposition is easy to come by and no one will really miss a washed up schmuck like the gherkin.
>He's been careful to avoid pointing the finger directly at Putin himself
He had that whole rant on telegram the gist of which was >people say zelensky bad because he clown >but zelensky bad although he a clown >zelensky moobilising, monke not moobilising >therefore monke clown
It was posted in august or early september iirc
Easiest answer?
He's a political figure in Russia with a segment of supporters. The fact that he can have an independent power base is enough to get him shot.
Not Putin, the MoD. R*ssian power hierarchy isn't a monolithic thing, there's many competing factions (unsurprisingly). Shitting on the military makes them lose face and become a potential scapegoat later on. To make people like Jerkin' Girkin cut this shit out you need to send them a message, ideally by targeting those who might've been regarded as "untouchable" so far.
The got terrified at the prospect of damage to economy. There are two explanations
1. They will announce end of mobilization, but they will keep quietly conscripting.
2. In reality they have conscripted 1M troops,not 300k. They're announcing the end of mobilization so that people who fled come back and keep the economy afloat.
well you can estimate the number of troops a nation has via their logistics
because the logistics effort required for 300k troops is obviously gonna be different than the logistics effort required for 1M troops
>because the logistics effort required for 300k troops is obviously gonna be different than the logistics effort required for 1M troops
not for mighty russia. 100k, 300k, 1000k all get the same logistics support.
>so that people who fled come back and keep the economy afloat
Thats the thing, a bunch of the dudes interviewed while leaving said they aren't even eligible for the mobilization, but they're still leaving because they can see the writing on the wall and know they might be called in the next mobilization/conscription call up. Those dude likely aren't gonna return til this war's over.
Xi was an ally of convenience to Putin
It is not really convenient to do the large amount of business Russia would require to get out of their fricked position, and the US is a bigger customer anyways.
You do not upset the VIP for the sake of the shmuck on the 25 cent slots.
Pic related as well, Russia would just fricking piss the shit away anyhow, like kidney stones and blood after a Moscow Monday.
I would argue that it was the other way. Putin was useful for a while to draw western attention away. Now Xi has little use of him and offer little more than words in support. It's the same way with Israel and USA; there is only an alliance if help goes both ways.
The point might be to do a massive show of force, mobilizing 300,000 troops, strike ukraine as hard as possible with whatever missiles and drones they can spare, threaten nukes again etc etc.... and at the same time, say Germany "made a mistake siding with NATO", Nord stream 2 still working if you want it bros...
in other-words, we dont want to do this and he says: "What is happening today is unpleasant, to put it mildly,", and we “did not set out to destroy Ukraine” but we will if we have too (bluff). he also said "we dont have regrets". when someone says that, what they really mean is they have regrets....
Putin is making things very obvious be trying to play the rational card. Ukries should keep pushing them out
Germany and Europe in general is better off finding alternative sources of energy (such as nuclear) rather than getting it from Russia. It's gonna suck the next years but in the end it will be worth it by being energy independent.
Nordstream 2 was also damaged and wasnt even finished anyways
If they really wanted to do a massive show of force they wouldnt stop at mobilizing 300k troops they would go further
This shows more of a lack of confidence from Putin about his power status
>Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday offered to resume gas supplies to Europe through the intact part of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. >"The ball is in the EU's court. If they want to, then the taps can be turned on and that's it," he said in a speech at an energy forum in Moscow.
dont know enough about it how the pipe works. but thats a snipped from an article.
>If they really wanted to do a massive show of force they wouldnt stop at mobilizing 300k troops they would go further
like how? dilly around with the nukes for real? I think people wouldnt want to deal with him after that point. like at all.
>This shows more of a lack of confidence from Putin about his power status
i agree
nvm my frick up
Construction was finished but it never entered service but it was still reportedly damaged
The speech he made was about making Germany pay 30 gorillion Dollaridoos to repair the gas pipeline and reopen it which will obviously never happen >like how? dilly around with the nukes for real?
No I meant mobilizing more people
Germany had committed to getting off of Russian energy, Uniper was going after Gazprom for only pushing out 40% capacity and Europe didn't capitulate due to energy issues.
I think they crippled themselves as soon as they tried to use it as leverage.
>If they really wanted to do a massive show of force they wouldnt stop at mobilizing 300k troops they would go further >This shows more of a lack of confidence from Putin about his power status
It's a pivot. Putin would like to be a nationalist hero, but he'll happily settle for being Russia's Kim Il Sung. He played along with nationalist ideas as long as they worked, but now they aren't. The mobilization has had the intended effect of driving bourgeois elements that might oppose Putin out of Russia. Now he's turning on the nationalist milbloggers, and soon he will have eliminated the main vectors of dissent for the last 8 years.
>Nordstream 2 was also damaged and wasnt even finished anyways
it was actually finished, it just needed approval from the various regulatory bodies before the valves would open.
So what? Ukies have nothing to lose at this point so they won't yield even if Russia tries to bluff. Its pointless.
To every Ukrainian a russian invader by now is literally that Untermensch who will rape and kill them. The reputation damage is irredeemable now.
> The point might be to do a massive show of force
Lol. That would have gone better at the beginning of the war when they still had trained soldiers with decent kit and a full stockpile of missiles. Now they are literally grasping at straws as they put conscripts into frontline positions after only 2 weeks of training and just lob a random assortment of missiles and drones and random targets in Ukraine (still missing most of them).
It’s a myth that Russia has any remanning conventional forces that could turn the tide of the war for them. They are functionally out cruises missiles, they are mobilizing and “upgrading” T-62 tanks since they don’t have enough “modern” tanks, and they can’t even raise a functional conscription army even in a limited capacity.
Russia is at the end of its rope and Putin knows it. He’s either going to go full bugman and send human waves against the Ukrainians or go nuclear. I still hold out hope that he withdrawals his troops and says “lol, it was just a joke and NATO fell for it” as an armed revolution breaks out in Russia, but I doubt God will be that generous.
I hate how Russians always blame DA YEW ES AY. Fricking man up Russia. Say you want to make Russians great and invade neighbors. Fricking I hate their Din du muffins propaganda so much especially from Russiaboos. Fricking talking with morons.
Frankly I think it is possible 300.000 recruits is the maximum Russia could theoretically raise. Weapons, uniforms, logistics and unit equipment never mind heavy weapons are not unlimited resources and I strongly doubt there is enough even to supply those already raised.
China if you invade russia you will gain:
Oil gas and plenty of other valuable resources
Women for your failing demographic
Brownie points with the west for removing putin
An easy military victory
When your country is literally, physically incapable of giving a full 25% of it's men (possibly as high as 33%!) a chance at ever marrying literally anyone in the country, you will take anything.
"Oops we one child policy'd ourselves to death because in our society everything goes to the male so we all chose male instead of having a female and lose having ANY future for our family."
Wait what, Russia didn’t have a one child policy. Can you expand on that? Russian women can’t inherit things?
2 years ago
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he's saying the chinks will fricking order brides at discount from puccia like american boomers order brides from the philippines when this is all done.
>Peace talks again
Oh, to be a fly on the wall.
"No, you don't get a bone, you don't get a symbolic victory. Your men are going to leave Ukraine in shame and disgrace, or they are going to leave it in a fricking box."
>Your men are going to leave Ukraine in shame and disgrace, or they are going to leave it in a fricking box.
There is also the option that they will remain in Ukraine. As fertilizer. And, pretty sure russia will bite on that one ... no corpse, no payout needed for mommy to buy some cooking oil.
I think this is Russia confirmed on a defensive backfooting. They want ceasefire and peace talks now as a means to end the war while they hold territory, and the mobilised are just a means to try and hold onto as much shit as possible.
Absolutely delusional. They’re verging on a full rout. Ukraine is going to want all their land and crimea at absolute minimum. Not that I doubt what you’re saying, just that plan is laughable. Ukraine has cemented its national identity and will be granted NATO membership. Russia is fricked
Eh, the consensus seems to be that they are calling for ''''''negotiations'''''' (and more importantly: a ceasefire) because they're getting their shit kicked in and the untrained mobiks with whom they're stuffing the gaping gaps in their defensive lines are just barely enabling to hold on and prevent another Izyum fiasco.
What they hope to get from these calls for talks is just a breather to reorganize their shit (still ultimately futile even if it were allowed but it's what they're now pinning their hopes on). There's no reason to grant them this opportunity. Especially not if they don't show any concrete willingness to argue in good faith.
If they want negotiations so badly, how about an ACTUAL gesture of goodwill? Like, say, renouncing the so-called annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory. That'd be a start. Oh, what's that, Vova? You supposedly cannot legally do that, even as president? Well, then you better hurry and change that, don't you?
It's the classic "escalate to de-escalate" russian tactic, so they can appear reasonable and from a position of strengh in negotiations.
Except it's not going to work, because everyone sees they're weak as frick and the ukrainians are not going to stop.
Because the partial mobilization was an unmitigated disaster and they couldn’t get a third of their goal, but managed to lose almost a million people in the process. It’s so painfully obvious.
>partial mobilisation ends in 2 weeks >yearly conscription cycle starts in 2 weeks >annexation of parts of Ukraine to Russia means conscripts can now be used in Ukraine war
I don't know what the logistical limits of the Russian military is. But I think it is a bad idea from a strategic standpoint to divide your forces into these "human waves". Wouldn't it be more efficient to ensure victory by sending in a decisive force all at once? I know this would be politically unpopular, but this just goes to show how far the Russians are willing to go to shoot themselves in the foot without saying how far they'll go to not loose.
Conscripts die at steady pace, gradually through the weeks or months, no big shock: >monke keep gold chair
Conscripts die en masse during one short period of time, one large shock: >monke might lose gold chair
These new guys don't have to win. They just have to be in Ukraine long enough to wear the Ukraines sufficiently down that they will ask for peace. A big country can lean on a small one until they run out of money, men, weapons or guns. It's a theory and it has been tried before. In ww1 when the Germans tried to bleed the French white. Didnt work but the cost to France was immense. It worked in Stalingrad too; millions of people on their side but in the end it was all about the Russian holding the line with barely trained troops until the Germans wore themselves out on it. It won't work this time because Ukraine has the entire western world backing them up. I don't think that has happened before in modern history.
>They just have to be in Ukraine long enough to wear the Ukraines sufficiently down that they will ask for peace.
The Ukranians have already made their position on this clear (pic related), there is nothing to negotiate until every Russian soldat is pushed past the 2014 borders, including Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea.
The soldats either limp home or they get sent Cargo 200. That's it.
It's also worth noting that "wear them down until they give up" only really works if you're doing it against an attacking army.
The Vietnamese did it to America. They lost a million people to America's 60k or so, and yet still won.
The Germans failed at it in WW1 because, even if they were doing defense in depth, they were still an attacking army by virtue of being on French territory. You can "wear an army out" if they're invaders. But you can't "wear an army out" if they're on their home soil, because the resolve to defend themselves is far higher than the resolve to defend "state territorial gains."
As long as Russia is on Ukrainian soil, they won't win with the strategy of "wear them out." Especially because of the whole "HATO backing" stuff, but even in spite of that, I doubt it would have done much good.
Right.
Because the russian people have more than shown they support taking down Ukraine over Ukrainians wanting the invaders to gtfo.
Just like how we wore the Taliban down over the course of 20 years and now they have given up and seceded all control of afghanistan to the west.
As you mentioned logistical limits probably stop this. They'd also have to divert resources from the front to raise this huge army which they can't afford to do without losing territory.
Helps morale. The more HIV they have the less reasons to live they have. Brilliant. I bet this was thought up by Shoigu himself, maybed even the Glorius Leader Himself
https://streamable.com/iewsh0 >The journalist mentions that according to Western analysts, Ukraine could retake Kherson as early as next week, and asks a soldier what the situation in the area is like. >The man answers him that he cannot give any information.... and bites into a watermelon
What is the meaning of this?
Realistically, they'll make a difference in terms of causing breakthroughs to be less disastrous for Russia when they happen, since they can literally throw men at the line. Not that they'll stop breakthroughs. But they can slow down one significantly and make the war take longer. Same conclusion, but more time. Probably not even in a way which would exacerbate Ukrainian casualties, but at least it would give them somewhat more, and take longer to process the POWs/dead.
Here's the real rub: As long as they keep holding shit like Donbabwe and Zaphorizia, this isn't gonna be too big a deal other than in how it slows down the timetable. But if they were SMART? If they pulled out of Donbas, evac'd the land corridor and just held tooth and nail to Crimea? They could probably use that force to hold that land for years, if not indefinitely.
Crimea has a very natural chokepoint, and even shitty troops can hold natural chokepoints if given even the barest of killing power and the barest of defenses, unless Ukraine did a whole Desert Storm on them. That COULD be possible.
They won't do it, but they could!
>they can literally throw men at the line
which will slow down the ukrainians because they'll have to stop and reload more often, or process more prisoners. >even shitty troops can hold natural chokepoints
this isn't the 1800's anymore. natural chokepoints that can be driven through before russian artillerymen can wake up from their drunken stupor won't stop anybody, and that's before you get to the issue of resupplying the damned place with no bridge.
>Partial mobilization is over
In more ways than one.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20117976/putin-mobilisation-chief-found-dead-suspicious-circumstances/
https://www.ibtimes.sg/roman-malyk-putins-enlistment-chief-found-hanged-his-home-67305 >Russia's one of the enlistment chiefs has been found dead in mysterious circumstances. Lt-Col Roman Malyk's body was discovered at his home in east Russia. Reports also claimed that Malyk was found hanged in his home. >His body was found in a village in the Primorsky region in Russia's eastern coast. A murder investigation has been launched by the officials, who have not ruled out the possibility that Malyk could have taken his own life. But his family members have refused that Malyk committed suicide.
Doesn't even need to be. >Mobilization goes to shit >Don't wanna be blamed for it >give your officer in charge the ol' Banana Slamma and have him found after >you know the country is so apathetic to your shit that they'll just instantly assume you killed him despite what the report says about suicide or an unknown killer >people will think "our strong leader is purging the people who caused problems with the army" >all is well
It means the massive amount of Russians fleeing the country had fricked up their economy even more, and he hopes they'll return with this.
Of course everyone knows Putins words are worthless, he said there would be no mobilization before. He just hopes for some people to fall into his trap, and next time he will forbid men from leaving the country when he calls for more to be mobilized.
Ready for peace means he knows he is losing, and he wants to exit the war holding the territories he conquered until now.
Of course everyone knows he will attack again as soon as he gathers his strength. He did that too many times to be trusted, and will never be trusted again.
Also, Russia has always said they were ready for peace. Their terms for peace were unconditional surrender and the full annexation of Ukraine until now. Basically they will try to conquer as much land as their army can take.
Asking for peace with these borders means they think there is no way their army can advance any further into Ukraine.
I wish to point out that the concept of 'cold European winter' could well be a reference to Europeans freezing due to lack of russian gas to heat their homes. It is bollocks at this point as the supply of non-russian energy has been increased to more or less negate this issue in most European countries, but that may have been the allegation at the time. Regardless of weather forecasts.
You can find new videos of men being conscripted everyday. Military officers waiting at apartment entrances and conscripting any military aged man they see.
I dunno. How much deeper can morale sink when vast numbers of conscriptees flee the country when they get called up? What can the Ukies do to them that their fellow soldiers already haven't, short of actually killing them?
>What can the Ukies do to them that their fellow soldiers already haven't, short of actually killing them?
Break their misplaced pride.
Russians may be fricking dead inside, in terms of morale, but even the moronic ones all get driven to keep doing their moronic actions by a belief that, by being Russian, things will just eventually work out for them. They think God favors the Russians.
Being captured by Ukies? And worse, being treated better in POW camps than their own lives, their own barracks, pre-capture? That could cause a man to break, if the only thing pushing him was, >at least my Russian-ness will never be surpassed.
>What can the Ukies do to them that their fellow soldiers already haven't, short of actually killing them?
It's been said before, but literally having them surrender and be interned in return for food, shelter, and being treated like actual fricking human beings.
Can't you junta homosexuals come up with more constructive arguments you waiting for the newetodoichka to be sent when your Kherson offensive to be totally btfo?
>Junta idiot thinks that the west will save him
They and Zelensky promised alot to you didn't they. Even if you hide in Poland after Kiev is liberated Wagner will still find you.
Could you morons (i.e. Russians) please decide whether Ukraine is being ruled by the evil Zelensky, by a junta of Ukrainian generals, by the CIA and MI6, by Joe Biden directly, or by satan-worshipping nazi transsexuals?
I would say that it's to stop people fleeing the country, conscripted or not.
Keeping as many people within the country, keeping jobs and industry going, is more important than a few more troops.
Anything about calling up X numbers or masses of troops has always been a bluff and was never going to be strategically viable.
Russia has been offering peace talks THE ENTIRE TIME. Right from the start. They're not even invading or annexing the region, the peace talks have always been for those regions to remain in Ukraine with autonomy. Ukraine even agreed to it twice in the maripool agreements and then violated the treaties they signed.
This is the dumbest war fueled by media lies and globalist neoliberal chicken hawk homosexuals.
It's funny to think that Freedomers, Dutyers and even fricking bandits would be more organized than the Russian military and have the capabilities to stand toe to toe with them
Wow. To lie this brazenly, to brag about it even, and leave a public record of it. Russia has been running away and hiding from any possibility of talks until just this last week when monke finally realized he's going to get Gadaffi'd no matter what he does at this point.
There is no document signed by any russian anywhere at any time that is worth one tenth the ink wasted on the signatures.
There is one thing and one thing only that russia can do to initiate a cease-fire immediately:
Get.
The.
Frick.
Out.
Of.
Ukraine.
That cease-fire can hold so long as russia makes not even one single aggressive move toward Ukraine, and (eventually) a peace accord can be reached once russia pays all reparations in full. After Ukraine has been rebuilt & repaired, and russia has paid all of the bills for every single expense, and every hostage returned, every abducted citizen returned, every kidnapped child returned and accounted for ... then the rest of the world can think about sitting down at a table and explaining to russia what will happen to them next. There will be no "negotiations." It will be explained to russia what their path forward is, and russia will obey like good little slaves.
After all that happens, then various countries can start talking with each other about appropriate sanctions relief, fully & entirely depending upon good behavior. Sanctions can be suspended, pending good behavior. Any more shitheaded fricktardery behavior and the suspensions are automatically terminated, pending new discussions about them no sooner than 36 months after any infraction, no matter how minor.
Leaving aside your vatBlack persony, they may not have a say. Russian forex reserves to the tune of 300 billion USDBare frozen. They can fairly simply be rewarded to Ukraine.
Look you may as well write up your little homosexual wish list and mail it to santa clause for all it's worth. Russia has been incredibly restrained in dealing with Ukraine. They're not getting into NATO. They're supported by puppet banana republics at the moment. That gravy train isn't going to last forever.
>incredibly restrained
Yes, yes, war crimes en masse and straight-up filtration camps and deportations are "incredibly restrained" by R*ssian standards. That tells you all you need to know about these ''''''people''''''.
>Russia has been offering peace talks THE ENTIRE TIME
you do realize that russia can achieve peace without any talks? all it has to do is gtfo of ukraine. the internationally recognized borders of ukraine. and return the million kidnapped children. plus belgorod and kursk, because frick you for starting this shit and also ukraine needs a buffer zone.
As I’ve explained MANY times: the 300k (possibly more, there’s some evidence that they’re lying about it being a partial mobilization) is to shore up the lines. Ukraine has been under full mobilization for months which ended up with them out-numbering the Russians by a large amount (3-to-1 at least?). With the constant blowing up of ammo depots and bridges Ukraine felt the time was right for a counter-offensive. And they were right. In most conflict zones the Russians retreated with separatists fighting rear-actions to cover the Russians’ escape. Surprisingly the Russians seemed to barely even try to fight before retreating. Being clearly outnumbered Putin decided his trooos wouldn’t be able to handle it so ordered them to pull back. Maybe he was worried that the southern regions would be threatened if he got tied down. So he decided to keep his troops fresh and still viable to move south if needed.
The Ukrainian problem, as usual, is that they lack a lot of basic mechanization. They built up a huge army, but it’s an army of light infantry with little fire support and poor maneuver capability. All they can realistically do is walk forward with some mechanized support, so they can’t decisively punch through and force a general route. This has given Putin the time to pull in more troops, even giving them 2 weeks of training including special unit training. He wants to solidify the lines simply by closing manpower numbers gap. This is to obviously to strengthen Putin’s position in the soon upcoming negotiations.
There’s 0 — zero, nil, etc — chance of Putin dragging this out to the point of forcing Germany off Russian gas for good. It honestly comes down to how much Putin thinks he can get away with before that happens. I think it’s really soon, just a few weeks.
Aren't you the guy who thought the BTGs were a great idea being more heavily mechanized and being able to do artillery spam readily? Not saying you are wrong, but some of the Kremlin's decisions so far don't seem to be built on a solid foundation of what's happening on the ground and is more rooted in what's happening in Putin's head.
>burn off the remainder of Russian males & non-Russian ethnic groups with sectarian axes to grind >pave the way for China to colonize over the next 80 years for a unitary, monolithic Eurasian Superstate to carry on the project of Communism against the West
The thought has occurred to true believers never ferreted out of the Kremlin by a Nuremberg 2 for communism. It's not as though patrimony means anything to a true believer. That said, 15 million met at arms (compared to 30 million under the USSR) is possible on paper, 25 if the scrape every last barre bottom. Rope a dope Ukes onto your own internationally recognized borders, plaster with Thermobarics and/or tactical yield nukes; zerg rush the Western part of the country from the North & Odessa from the South. It's not like they have any options showing their "not actually peer" power level.
Why is being anti-Russian considered being Reddit on /k/? I have never supported Russia once in my life, nor given them a benefit of the doubt, but I'm Reddit?
>Why is being anti-Russian considered being Reddit on /k/?
It's not, /misc/ddit /chug/gers are tring to run an unsuccessful psyop to convince people that Russia is based actually, for cobtrarian reasons.
but they want the land for it's ressources. it's what they say: >donbass is ukraine
not >donbass people are ukrainians
no government on earth would let some of it's serfs secede. well, except liechtenstein.
Their PM at the time was conservative nationalist short of going full Franco, of course he would beat the shit out of anyone who would dare to secede from his precious Spain.
inb4 our climate models aren't good enough for weather modification but we are REALLY SURE that if we just pay 1000x more for energy in Europe that will save our beach front condos
KWAB
>two more weeks
The mobilization will last 8 months then
>haha please come back to russia guys i promise i wont try to draft you again
>Russia calling for peace talks
AJHAHAHAUAHAAHHAHAHA
That's not fair. Of course Putin wants peace. As soon as he has captured Ukraine and what other nations he wants to occupy. At that point, where he needs to consolidate his gains and might be weak enough that the remaining foreign countries could become a threat, of course he wants peace! Until he has fully rebuilt his strength, that is - then peace might become less important again.
maybe this is all a simple misunderstanding.
Putin said he wants "mir" and they interpret it as "peace"
This is true. Mir does indeed have multiple meanings. Could be mir as in 'lebensraum'.
If everything is Russia then we have finally world peace!
>Putin said he wants "mir" and they interpret it as "peace"
All he wants is peace....peace....peace!
A little peace of Germany. A little peace of France. A little slice of Turkey, and a bit of Greece, Perhaps.
>savage group of subhumans has the same word for 'peace' as they have for "world conquest"
Now where have I heard that before...
Same word also means 'outer space' and 'sea'. I think the best definition would be 'frickhuge' but oh well. From a linguistic point of view the russian language is quite interesting.
Give peace a chance
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/10/14/why-russia-is-pushing-a-return-to-negotiations
Let us give war a chance.
They did not want the war, you just moved from west germany to the russian borders against your promise. overthrow government in ukraine, divided the country and start a war agains the etnic russians in east ukraine
>muh promise
Nobody promised you shit, you inbred orc savage.
>muh CIA coup
Ukraine chose to replace its government because their corrupt, traitorous leader was a servant to Russia who betrayed them utterly and tried to murder and terrorize everyone who dared to protest against him.
>muh ethnic russians
If your horde cared about Russian lives they wouldn't have attacked Ukraine while pretending they weren't even there and started this war based on lies and deception in the first place, then conscripted all these "ethnic Russians" you keep harping about and sent them to their deaths with nothing but a pot helmet and a bolt-action rifle older than their grandfathers.
Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainians.
I'm just gonna say it: ethnic Russians are a proven fifth column in every country they have significant numbers in and they should all be given a choice: return to Russia with nothing but the clothes on their backs, or be ethnically cleansed.
Shill harder monke
Russians
>Le Monke
wat... did you even read their post moron?
>calls for mindless and counterproductive genocides that will only serve to fuel Putin's propaganda machine and stop the massive brain drain that is a key facet in destroying Russia's ability to function as a serious power
>not an FSB shill
You people keep falling for it.
>Advocating for actions that would deprive the Ukraine of materiel and intelligence support from the west
I wonder who could be behind this post.
Everything you posted is a fabrication. Do you recite your talking points for yourself, or for the rest of us to laugh at you?
>you just moved from west germany to the russian borders against your promise
All the bases in the east existed before the end of the cold war and are run by those country's armies. Yes "technically" they're NATO bases but in actuality most were made in soviet ties with soviet armies in mind and up until recently were post-soviet in nature, devoid of NATO planning.
You think the West wants this war to end? Black person, we’re here to kill you. Every fricking Russian must fricking hang
Why didn't Russia just invite the ethnic Russians in Ukraine into Russia without stealing the land and have the Ukraine government write IOU cash payments to the families?
They did. Some time after Georgia they distributed Russian passports to encourage Ukrainians immigrate to Russia.
Okay, but why didn't they do it again if they cared so much about the ethnic Russians?
You have to be older than 18 & graduated from high school to wrap your head around this one. Russia designed a program almost 80 years ago where they deliberately exported tens of millions of russians into other countries. It was planned genocide. Native populations were gulaged, slaughtered, enslaved. Educated people and leaders were targeted in particular. They were killed or otherwise removed to suppress dissent while replacing them with good little vodka Black person slaves.
Then, when the USSR fell apart in 1992, the dregs of russia rose up and claimed it was the legitimate inheritor of everything Soviet. One of the first & most immediate policies put into place was to deny russian citizenship to all russians that had been abandoned in all these other countries. Something like 20 million in East Germany, but up to 50 million or more between all the ex-Soviet occupied nations.
search strings "stateless person" "stateless person russian"
Many of these people ended up without any citizenship at all, refusing to obtain citizenship in the countries they lived in ... despite generous programs to help them obtain citizenship. Because, russia refused to let them obtain citizenship and refused to even let many enter russia.
It was all by design. It is all by design,
It is specifically to use these abandoned ex-Soviets as an excuse to invade other countries and "liberate" them so they can be "independent" and "sovereign" in all the useful ways that Transnistria is.
That's fricking why. It's not a bug, it's a feature. It is THE Plan, and has been from the beginning. All the God damned vatBlack person lies and bullshit you see posted here from within the EU is vodka Black folk squatting in vatnik slums waiting for the USSR to come back, committing treason every hour they breathe against the country they live in, and some are even citizens of. Frankly, it deserves the death penalty. They're actively working for the enemy while being parasites in the countries they live in.
That plan seems fricking moronic and a good way to get your shit pushed in if you're the rebuilt remnants of a former nation.
so you agree it's a very russian sort of plan
Seems like an extremely dumb thing to do for a country with a demographic crisis.
As already explained by other replies, Russia hasn't the least frick to give about "ethnic russians." It's just another vatpigger excuse to ape out and scream in pain from your repression while they rape your toddler to death. Russians planned for this during & since World War II. Literally murdering millions upon millions of people in their own countries to replace them with "ethnic russians." It started out as merely genocide to kill and replace native populations.
Spoiler alert: It still is genocide. Just a slightly different cope & circus show, like watching any five year old change his story 15 different times every day when he gets caught shitting on the living room floor.
Not gonna be ethnic Russians there much longer m8
>Word for word russian sewage.
Go frick yourself.
> Russia has no agency
> Russia was forced into the war
You dumb motherfricker, the west was still trying to negotiate to prevent the war even up to the moment when Russia rolled across the border in February. Russia wanted this war very badly until they started losing.
Send Lavrov's severed hands and head back in a box with his prick stuffed in his mouth.
i fricking hope so dude
Putin's probably looking to outlast western will to support the war. It's his only option for victory on his terms now.
There's so little hope of that working it's comical. Russia is trying to invade and occupy a foreign country while under embargos. The west is just sending equipment. One costs a lot more human and economic capital, and thus will, than the other.
Well they can do peace talks after they are gone out of ukraine, including DNR and crimea.
WHAT THE FRICK DOES IT MEEEAAN???
Polish media is saying that Putin wants to buy time and remove some of the sanctions to prepare for 2023 spring offensive
>remove some of the sanctions
How the frick does he think hes gonna do that?
only thing Russia produces the west needs is gas and since nordstream is no more thats out of the picture
>How the frick does he think hes gonna do that?
literally pic related
General Winter will fix everything
he has always saved Russia before!
The Europeans and Ukrainians will come begging for peace!
You'll see!
even earth itself is against pussia
Looks like the coping has already started.
Without Russian icecubes europe will become TOO warm. 2 more weks!
god was not pleased when they put a sliver of the true cross on their black sea flagship. things have been going downhill for them ever since. unfortunately since the flagship is now dissolving at the bottom of the black sea, they don't have the option of appeasing god by removing it and returning it to a holy location.
>they don't have the option of appeasing god by removing it and returning it to a holy location
like where, putin's larp church run by the FSB controlled fake orthodoxy?
Ironically this piece of true cross will not dissolve even in thousands of years. Black sea has no oxygen at the bottom of it so nothing lives there. We even found wooden ancient Greek ships in "perfect" condition down there
It's not even a piece of the true cross... or rather unlikely.
It's really just some log they found buried during the crusades and then just claimed it was THE true cross. Like we don't even know if it belonged to ANY cross and even if it did which the chances are already slim enough, what are the chances it was THAT specific cross?
So maybe running around worshipping some piece of just some fricking log like it's the greatest holiest thing ever is inevitably gonna backfire on you...
Bogdanoff vs Putin
We've been hearing for months now that winter was gonna be really cold, now it's really warm, what changed? I've never had any faith in these far out weather forecasts, how accurate are they? morons incorrectly predict rain less than 2 days out all the time but I'm supposed to believe they know the average temperature months out??
>We've been hearing for months now that winter was gonna be really cold
Who the frick said this
I have not seen any credible prediction made that this year's winter was going to be especially cold (in Europe).
I heard someone saying that Australian winter will be especially cold this year
Good. Russia will build a gas pipeline there by then. Slave Z
You mean next year, this years winter has been over for months
Those predictions are always bullshit anyway
Dont know how about other countries, but German forecaster, the big ones, say that every preciction that names explicite numbers and rain beyond 1 week is not believable. Everything after 1 week is a range and the span gets bigger with time.
And what i heard was that they prognosed or expect harsher cold 3 days or a week in a mild winter.
That's not entirely correct, we can predict broad trends months in advance thanks to modern computing technology. The thing is, these trends are inherently prone to error when unexpected variables come into play and, say, create a large cold front that disrupts an otherwise warm season. So a broadly warmer winter is likely, but far from certain
at least here in finland they forecast a slightly milder than average winter a month or two back already
>We've been hearing for months now that winter was gonna be really cold
They say that literally every year where I live, yet it never happens.
there hasn't been a cold winter in europe for like a decade now.
hurray for global enwarmening
Weather forecasting is really difficult.
You can't really make definitive statements about the winter in March or April, but you can say that heating will likely cost more money. Hence "winter cold".
Now that it is mid October we have some data on where things may be going. There's a cold wave coming up and generally winters don't stay cold for 4 months straight, so a mild period is expected afterwards. Hence "winter not cold".
>How does this control the weather?
>Uhhhhhh ... RANDOM QUANTUM BULLSHIT, GO! SOMETHING SOMETHING TESLA!
>NO YOU CANT HEAT UP WATER IN THE ATMOSPHERE WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVESSSSS HAHAHHAA IM SO SMART I BELEIEVE TRANSATLANTIC GLOBALIST SCIENCE COMMUNICATOR NARRATIVES HAHAHAHAHA FRICKING FLAT EARTHS AMIRITE?!?!?! xDDDddddd OH YEAH I LOVE MY EURO KEK GOVERNMENT FOR MAKING ME PAY 10000000 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR HEAT AND ELECTRICITY BECAUSE ******ITS THE ONLY WAY****** TO STOP CLIMATE CHANGE
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5984239A/en
>Weather modification by artificial satellites
Abstract
A Satellite Weather Modification System (SWMS) uses earth satellites to harness solar energy to modify the thermodynamics and composition of the earth's atmosphere. SWMS has three subsystems: The first subsystem includes a network of earth satellites called Satellite Engines (SEs) used to reflect solar energy and/or transform solar energy into other forms of energy beams discharged at specified locations. The media at these locations and the media through which the energy beams pass absorb these energies and change them into heat.
>muhhh chem trails
>CIA Director John Brennan discusses Stratospheric Aerosol Injection.
real talk though most of these are basically grey/black darpa projects and are not widespread in use or highly refined and sophisticated.. probably funded through all that funnelled f-35 money or maybe cia afghan opium? :^) remember PEOPLE LIKE YOU were saying "muh aurora" whenever military hypersonic research was brought up because those type of things are limited hangouts or red herrings and NOW THE FRICKING PENTAGON IS TELLING US THERE ARE FRICKING AYYYYYYYYYYLMAOS it's which layer of the psyop are you invested in?
>https://streamable.com/iewsh0
>NO YOU CANT HEAT UP WATER IN THE ATMOSPHERE WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVESSSSS
Back to /x/ with you, schizo. Also, take your meds. You might wanna do some back of the envelope calculations on the amounts of energy required. I take it you're also the kind of moron who thinks one can use a nuke (or even just a gun, kek) to disperse a hurricane?
>muhhh chem trails
>I-IS ... IS THAT A HECKIN' PROPOSED GEOENGINEERING METHOD!?!?!? THAT MEANS IT'S FEASIBLE AND OF COURSE ALSO ALREADY HAPPENING™!!!! MUH NAZI SCIENTISTS! MUH BLACK PROJECTS!! MUH DICK!!!
Seek help.
>You might wanna do some back of the envelope calculations on the amounts of energy required
ai augmented butterfly effect baybayyyyyyy
>So I guess now aliens are too cliché for conspiritards
NO DUDE, NO WAY IT COULD BE ANOTHER CONTRIVED CIA MEDIA NARRATIVE TO DISGUISE HIGHLY ADVANCED TECHNOLGOY AND TO JUST GENERALLY PSYOP THE POPULATION SOME MORE
>we need more money to defend against the aliens which are actually our own black budget
>muh eddie bravo
YOU LOVE YOUR FLAT EARTH STRAWMEN
>ai augmented butterfly effect baybayyyyyyy
>MUH MAGIC COMPUTER MIND
Okay, moron. One poorly understood meme concept at a time please.
>YOU LOVE YOUR FLAT EARTH STRAWMEN
If it quacks like a duck ...
>>I-IS ... IS THAT A HECKIN' PROPOSED GEOENGINEERING METHOD!?!?!? THAT MEANS IT'S FEASIBLE AND OF COURSE ALSO ALREADY HAPPENING™!!!! MUH NAZI SCIENTISTS! MUH BLACK PROJECTS!! MUH DICK!!!
HEY DUDE IM JUST POINTING OUT THAT ALL THE YEARS OF GASLIGHTING BY NARRATIVE-BELIEVERS THAT CHEMTRAILS ARE FLAT EARTH TIER WAS PROVEN TO BE JUST THAT, GASLIGHTING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT BE AS WIDESPREAD AS IT WAS BELIEVED BY THE HARDCORE TRUTH COMMUNITY, IT WAS STILL A REAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND RESEARCH PROJECT AS PROVEN BY FRICKING MOCKINGBIRD JOHN BRENNAN SPEAKING AT THE FRICKING SPOOK FRICK CFR MEETING
>NOW THE FRICKING PENTAGON IS TELLING US THERE ARE FRICKING AYYYYYYYYYYLMAOS it's which layer of the psyop are you invested in?
lmao
So I guess now aliens are too cliché for conspiritards because le ebil gubbermint is openly entertaining the idea and normies are starting to take it seriously? Hilarious! Kinda reminds me of that funny turbo downie Eddie Bravo in this regard. If he hears "the demons" talking about it that means it definitely is fake (like space).
russiazizters... even climate change is against us
It would be the second in a row, but I don't expect a particularly harsh one.
Europe used to live in mudhuts and walk around bare chested most of the year round
Where did the freeze over winter delusion even come in, simply because of frail 80 year olds and homeless drunks?
it's just coping and projection from people who don't look at weather type maps and think europe has as much permafrost as siberia and kolyma...
Yeah, they don't have much left to hang hope on so now they're doing the General Winter meme blindly without actually understanding it, weather, relative logistics or anything at all.
But it's convenient cope for them right now because it's close enough they can claim it can change the situation yet far enough that going to be instantly disproved, buys them months of "two more weeks", plus it's "out of their hands" so it doesn't depend on Russian competence. And also gives them a cope out, they can claim "oh winter was less this year we only lost due to bad luck".
Unironic cope
What does this even mean? I live in Germany and I only use heating to stop mold from growing. The winters here have always been pretty damn warm.
>tfw a White Christmas only actually happens every five years or so
Do russian dont know what insulation is? I dont have to turn on heating during -10c winter, I just put a sweater on.
>Do russian dont know what insulation is?
They don't even know what indoor plumbing is, dude.
yes we should all listen to pewtin
one more season the snow cover will rise and europe will understand
american vatnigs who have no idea what the European weather is like
wtf I love climate change now
wtf I'm going skiing in January, give me a cold European winter
It's been like this for years bro. Most ski resorts have been doing really bad. In the Netherlands people only go to Austria and Switzerland to get shit faced in some mountain cabin anyway so they're still going.
They can still transport gas via rail, it's way more expensive and slower but it's still an option.
Import restrictions are huge, even if Russia can't sell gas to Europe anymore being able to buy shit like chips and ball bearings again will be vital to rebuilding the army.
But the anon asked how he thinks that would actually be achieved.
Like, the EU and especially America are not going to start selling Russia war-sensitive materiel just because they aren't fighting (without ending the war, and planning on fighting it later again).
They'll have to stop in 2 weeks to begin fall conscription. They're not done they just don't have the bandwidth to continue to mobilize and get new conscripts at the same time.
That sounds about right, he'll say anything to buy himself more time to train up his mobilized troops.
he can't be so delusional to think that would work, right?
truth is noone would agree to their favorable terms
He's banking on GOP winning the election
The usual conservative pundits have been strangely eager to capitulate to Putin
Well on the other hand you've got establishment conservatives pretty much unanimously supporting aid packages to Ukraine and the expansion of NATO. I think the conservative media is just trying to play off of people's nuclear anxieties and make Biden look like a warmonger before election season. If a Republican wins I would expect the war to keep on rolling on a similar course, unless it's someone crazy like Trump again
>republicans
>unless it's someone crazy
Anon, you didn't really think that one through very thoroughly, did you?
yeah, he is confusing democrats and neocons now with the republican party
Gop can't undo support if they win midterms anyway. Midterms won't change anything in Ukraine for Russia. Plus most Republicans support aid to Ukraine anyway.
The Maga morons are not the GOP. Most Republicans are in favour of supporting Ukraine.
Wtf i forgot jim carey was the lead in that piece of shit
>announcement that mobilization ends this month
>at the same time get suspiciously drafted while Russian shill channels get knocks on their doors
They really fricked him didnt they?
He is going to war.
Just like the old times.
She Thicc.
Look at the amount of fillers in that woman's face holy shit
Russian women are truly a nightmare
You take that back.
I don't even get why those unfortunate wenches are doing this. They usually look considerably better without that shit. Is this yet another side-effect of getting raped as a child?
Kek. His gf’s face is hideous, I wonder how much of it is even organic at this point.
On another note, I can’t wait to read about his death.
>dat brow
>dat jaw
Unironically looks like a troon
so why does white trad russia still have bogged women
>white
>trad
>Russia
>Igor Girkin heroically went to the front
>Igor Girkin heroically died fighting the Ukro-Nazis.
Not only do they get rid of a problem but they will make him into a martyr. Now that's the Soviet way
Crazy how the Ukies managed to shoot him in the back of the head while he was leading a charge
Can someone explain to me what he did to piss off Putin?
He's been careful to avoid pointing the finger directly at Putin himself, but that means he's been extra vocal about accusing Putin's butt buddies in the kremlin, and they still have more than enough power to make shit like this happen. Putin himself likely doesn't give a shit. Controlled opposition is easy to come by and no one will really miss a washed up schmuck like the gherkin.
>He's been careful to avoid pointing the finger directly at Putin himself
He had that whole rant on telegram the gist of which was
>people say zelensky bad because he clown
>but zelensky bad although he a clown
>zelensky moobilising, monke not moobilising
>therefore monke clown
It was posted in august or early september iirc
>but zelensky bad although he a clown
*NOT a clown
He's going to meet up with Givi after the FSB sets up an explosion for him.
Easiest answer?
He's a political figure in Russia with a segment of supporters. The fact that he can have an independent power base is enough to get him shot.
Not Putin, the MoD. R*ssian power hierarchy isn't a monolithic thing, there's many competing factions (unsurprisingly). Shitting on the military makes them lose face and become a potential scapegoat later on. To make people like Jerkin' Girkin cut this shit out you need to send them a message, ideally by targeting those who might've been regarded as "untouchable" so far.
The got terrified at the prospect of damage to economy. There are two explanations
1. They will announce end of mobilization, but they will keep quietly conscripting.
2. In reality they have conscripted 1M troops,not 300k. They're announcing the end of mobilization so that people who fled come back and keep the economy afloat.
I feel like it would be noticeable if they conscripted 1M instead of 300k people
300k conscripted, 700k of the brightest russians fleed the country. Brain drain is real
>brightest russians fleed the country
Crime rates in countries they fled to is about to double
It wouldn't. Russia is a huge, poorly interconnected country.
well you can estimate the number of troops a nation has via their logistics
because the logistics effort required for 300k troops is obviously gonna be different than the logistics effort required for 1M troops
>because the logistics effort required for 300k troops is obviously gonna be different than the logistics effort required for 1M troops
not for mighty russia. 100k, 300k, 1000k all get the same logistics support.
Logistics?
More mobilization coming comrade.
>so that people who fled come back and keep the economy afloat
Thats the thing, a bunch of the dudes interviewed while leaving said they aren't even eligible for the mobilization, but they're still leaving because they can see the writing on the wall and know they might be called in the next mobilization/conscription call up. Those dude likely aren't gonna return til this war's over.
>they aren't even eligible for the mobilization
That doesn't mean they won't be mobilized (or outright pressganged).
>2. In reality they have conscripted 1M troops,not 300k
In reality they probably did even less than 200k. You forget that it's a russian numbers.
looks like Putin's gonna have to suckle from xi's titty soon
That titty is not available to him right now.
Xi was an ally of convenience to Putin
It is not really convenient to do the large amount of business Russia would require to get out of their fricked position, and the US is a bigger customer anyways.
You do not upset the VIP for the sake of the shmuck on the 25 cent slots.
Pic related as well, Russia would just fricking piss the shit away anyhow, like kidney stones and blood after a Moscow Monday.
>Xi was an ally of convenience to Putin
I would argue that it was the other way. Putin was useful for a while to draw western attention away. Now Xi has little use of him and offer little more than words in support. It's the same way with Israel and USA; there is only an alliance if help goes both ways.
that's what I meant, sorry if that was a bit ass backwards
>30 second reply
Anon that's staged. Are people really this dumb on PrepHole there days?
Nib, more than thirty seconds went by. With a PrepHolepass and fast typing you can reply in seconds.
>he doesn't know
>"Get over it, subhuman"
>Mfw even Chang is done with Ivan's BS
Going by their economic turmoil and the brutal lockdowns over a disease no one cares about any more I'm guessing he's too busy.
>Believing anything Putin says
Honestly why are people fooled again and again? Is the whole of Russia collectively having a case of dementia?
The point might be to do a massive show of force, mobilizing 300,000 troops, strike ukraine as hard as possible with whatever missiles and drones they can spare, threaten nukes again etc etc.... and at the same time, say Germany "made a mistake siding with NATO", Nord stream 2 still working if you want it bros...
in other-words, we dont want to do this and he says: "What is happening today is unpleasant, to put it mildly,", and we “did not set out to destroy Ukraine” but we will if we have too (bluff). he also said "we dont have regrets". when someone says that, what they really mean is they have regrets....
Putin is making things very obvious be trying to play the rational card. Ukries should keep pushing them out
Germany and Europe in general is better off finding alternative sources of energy (such as nuclear) rather than getting it from Russia. It's gonna suck the next years but in the end it will be worth it by being energy independent.
Nordstream 2 was also damaged and wasnt even finished anyways
If they really wanted to do a massive show of force they wouldnt stop at mobilizing 300k troops they would go further
This shows more of a lack of confidence from Putin about his power status
>Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday offered to resume gas supplies to Europe through the intact part of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.
>"The ball is in the EU's court. If they want to, then the taps can be turned on and that's it," he said in a speech at an energy forum in Moscow.
dont know enough about it how the pipe works. but thats a snipped from an article.
>If they really wanted to do a massive show of force they wouldnt stop at mobilizing 300k troops they would go further
like how? dilly around with the nukes for real? I think people wouldnt want to deal with him after that point. like at all.
>This shows more of a lack of confidence from Putin about his power status
i agree
nvm my frick up
Construction was finished but it never entered service but it was still reportedly damaged
The speech he made was about making Germany pay 30 gorillion Dollaridoos to repair the gas pipeline and reopen it which will obviously never happen
>like how? dilly around with the nukes for real?
No I meant mobilizing more people
1 line of NS2 'miraculously' survived. Which pretty much gives me a 100% confidence that russians did this to force Germany to certify ns2
This.
I would have bet on poland when the news first came. But leaving just one line of NS2 open... that smells very much like russian frickery.
So it really was another fricking attempt at a "win" by fricking crippling themselves further?
It's consistent with how they've been waging war so far.
Germany had committed to getting off of Russian energy, Uniper was going after Gazprom for only pushing out 40% capacity and Europe didn't capitulate due to energy issues.
I think they crippled themselves as soon as they tried to use it as leverage.
>If they really wanted to do a massive show of force they wouldnt stop at mobilizing 300k troops they would go further
>This shows more of a lack of confidence from Putin about his power status
It's a pivot. Putin would like to be a nationalist hero, but he'll happily settle for being Russia's Kim Il Sung. He played along with nationalist ideas as long as they worked, but now they aren't. The mobilization has had the intended effect of driving bourgeois elements that might oppose Putin out of Russia. Now he's turning on the nationalist milbloggers, and soon he will have eliminated the main vectors of dissent for the last 8 years.
>Nordstream 2 was also damaged and wasnt even finished anyways
It was ready to go. All it needed were a couple signatures.
>Nordstream 2 was also damaged and wasnt even finished anyways
it was actually finished, it just needed approval from the various regulatory bodies before the valves would open.
So what? Ukies have nothing to lose at this point so they won't yield even if Russia tries to bluff. Its pointless.
To every Ukrainian a russian invader by now is literally that Untermensch who will rape and kill them. The reputation damage is irredeemable now.
> The point might be to do a massive show of force
Lol. That would have gone better at the beginning of the war when they still had trained soldiers with decent kit and a full stockpile of missiles. Now they are literally grasping at straws as they put conscripts into frontline positions after only 2 weeks of training and just lob a random assortment of missiles and drones and random targets in Ukraine (still missing most of them).
It’s a myth that Russia has any remanning conventional forces that could turn the tide of the war for them. They are functionally out cruises missiles, they are mobilizing and “upgrading” T-62 tanks since they don’t have enough “modern” tanks, and they can’t even raise a functional conscription army even in a limited capacity.
Russia is at the end of its rope and Putin knows it. He’s either going to go full bugman and send human waves against the Ukrainians or go nuclear. I still hold out hope that he withdrawals his troops and says “lol, it was just a joke and NATO fell for it” as an armed revolution breaks out in Russia, but I doubt God will be that generous.
I hate how Russians always blame DA YEW ES AY. Fricking man up Russia. Say you want to make Russians great and invade neighbors. Fricking I hate their Din du muffins propaganda so much especially from Russiaboos. Fricking talking with morons.
Frankly I think it is possible 300.000 recruits is the maximum Russia could theoretically raise. Weapons, uniforms, logistics and unit equipment never mind heavy weapons are not unlimited resources and I strongly doubt there is enough even to supply those already raised.
Oh no.
I can't wait for next season of "Tovarish, Where's My Lada?" where they bring in another 300,000 contestants coming this March.
China if you invade russia you will gain:
Oil gas and plenty of other valuable resources
Women for your failing demographic
Brownie points with the west for removing putin
An easy military victory
Think about it
>Also an undetermined amount of nukes fired at china
A win-win situation for the West I'd say.
Dont forget Manchuria. Former Chinese clay that Russia annexed.
>Russian woman
who the frick even wants them. They even come with a penis
When your country is literally, physically incapable of giving a full 25% of it's men (possibly as high as 33%!) a chance at ever marrying literally anyone in the country, you will take anything.
so to do that in order to create the next generation of violent fetal alcohol syndrome kids?
How is this possible? Where are all the women?
"Oops we one child policy'd ourselves to death because in our society everything goes to the male so we all chose male instead of having a female and lose having ANY future for our family."
Wait what, Russia didn’t have a one child policy. Can you expand on that? Russian women can’t inherit things?
he's saying the chinks will fricking order brides at discount from puccia like american boomers order brides from the philippines when this is all done.
Those sly chink dogs!
>Two weeks
>number magic
Russia really is fricked, aren't they?
>Peace talks again
Oh, to be a fly on the wall.
"No, you don't get a bone, you don't get a symbolic victory. Your men are going to leave Ukraine in shame and disgrace, or they are going to leave it in a fricking box."
>Your men are going to leave Ukraine in shame and disgrace, or they are going to leave it in a fricking box.
There is also the option that they will remain in Ukraine. As fertilizer. And, pretty sure russia will bite on that one ... no corpse, no payout needed for mommy to buy some cooking oil.
I think this is Russia confirmed on a defensive backfooting. They want ceasefire and peace talks now as a means to end the war while they hold territory, and the mobilised are just a means to try and hold onto as much shit as possible.
Absolutely delusional. They’re verging on a full rout. Ukraine is going to want all their land and crimea at absolute minimum. Not that I doubt what you’re saying, just that plan is laughable. Ukraine has cemented its national identity and will be granted NATO membership. Russia is fricked
Ngl however this conflict may end, godspeed the ukies did not dissappoint fricking legendary madlads
Russia lost 2 weeks into this war. Now Russia is deciding on how badly they want their country to collapse
Eh, the consensus seems to be that they are calling for ''''''negotiations'''''' (and more importantly: a ceasefire) because they're getting their shit kicked in and the untrained mobiks with whom they're stuffing the gaping gaps in their defensive lines are just barely enabling to hold on and prevent another Izyum fiasco.
What they hope to get from these calls for talks is just a breather to reorganize their shit (still ultimately futile even if it were allowed but it's what they're now pinning their hopes on). There's no reason to grant them this opportunity. Especially not if they don't show any concrete willingness to argue in good faith.
If they want negotiations so badly, how about an ACTUAL gesture of goodwill? Like, say, renouncing the so-called annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory. That'd be a start. Oh, what's that, Vova? You supposedly cannot legally do that, even as president? Well, then you better hurry and change that, don't you?
>partial mobilization ends in two weeks
>full mobilization begins in two weeks
>peace talks
It seems kinda strange to conduct mass terror bombing civilians across the whole country before asking for peace talks
It's the classic "escalate to de-escalate" russian tactic, so they can appear reasonable and from a position of strengh in negotiations.
Except it's not going to work, because everyone sees they're weak as frick and the ukrainians are not going to stop.
>What did 300.000 recruits change?
Reducing the workforce by 1 mil.
>Russian is going to win in two weeks so mobilization don't be needed
Can't wait for the west troony seethe
VatBlack person monkey sitting in a tree, tries to speak English but ooks and shits
>putin says mobilisation is over
So it's not over then, right?
Mobilization will continue until morale improves.
Two more weeks to flatten the curve boys.
They should just let Germany produce Nukes from the waste to even out Iran and Russias bullshit. It's win win win.
Because the partial mobilization was an unmitigated disaster and they couldn’t get a third of their goal, but managed to lose almost a million people in the process. It’s so painfully obvious.
>partial mobilisation ends in 2 weeks
>yearly conscription cycle starts in 2 weeks
>annexation of parts of Ukraine to Russia means conscripts can now be used in Ukraine war
Very clever monke, very clever.
He can do that. But even if he doesn't, he can still use the next conscripts batch as placeholders for already trained forces.
Someone remind me please. Is Putin already hanging on to conscripts who should return home by now, for the duration of the war?
No, since those conscripts were kindly asked to sign a contract with the army
yes actually, they passed a law extending their service period lol/
Mobilisation included infinite extension of existing contracts.
>222k conscriptoids
>war started on 22th of 2022
>2 more weeks
The frick is wrong with monke?
Number magic, the shaman said that number 2 will make Putin win
Da~ the 2 is stronk number same number of times putin has contracted AIDS very powerful
I thought three was the magic number?
what an interesting number, they have a 50% casualty rate already
>What did 300.000 recruits change?
Why are you using past tense when only a small part of that has actually been put into rotation.
>rotation
wat dat
t. monke
It sounds reasonable that 300.000 could have been called in. Doesn't mean that their date for showing up for training has arrived yet.
>Partial mobilization is over
And full mogilization of mobiks has been started.
I don't know what the logistical limits of the Russian military is. But I think it is a bad idea from a strategic standpoint to divide your forces into these "human waves". Wouldn't it be more efficient to ensure victory by sending in a decisive force all at once? I know this would be politically unpopular, but this just goes to show how far the Russians are willing to go to shoot themselves in the foot without saying how far they'll go to not loose.
Conscripts die at steady pace, gradually through the weeks or months, no big shock:
>monke keep gold chair
Conscripts die en masse during one short period of time, one large shock:
>monke might lose gold chair
You would need time that kind of build up, which russia does not really have currently.
These new guys don't have to win. They just have to be in Ukraine long enough to wear the Ukraines sufficiently down that they will ask for peace. A big country can lean on a small one until they run out of money, men, weapons or guns. It's a theory and it has been tried before. In ww1 when the Germans tried to bleed the French white. Didnt work but the cost to France was immense. It worked in Stalingrad too; millions of people on their side but in the end it was all about the Russian holding the line with barely trained troops until the Germans wore themselves out on it. It won't work this time because Ukraine has the entire western world backing them up. I don't think that has happened before in modern history.
>They just have to be in Ukraine long enough to wear the Ukraines sufficiently down that they will ask for peace.
The Ukranians have already made their position on this clear (pic related), there is nothing to negotiate until every Russian soldat is pushed past the 2014 borders, including Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea.
The soldats either limp home or they get sent Cargo 200. That's it.
It's also worth noting that "wear them down until they give up" only really works if you're doing it against an attacking army.
The Vietnamese did it to America. They lost a million people to America's 60k or so, and yet still won.
The Germans failed at it in WW1 because, even if they were doing defense in depth, they were still an attacking army by virtue of being on French territory. You can "wear an army out" if they're invaders. But you can't "wear an army out" if they're on their home soil, because the resolve to defend themselves is far higher than the resolve to defend "state territorial gains."
As long as Russia is on Ukrainian soil, they won't win with the strategy of "wear them out." Especially because of the whole "HATO backing" stuff, but even in spite of that, I doubt it would have done much good.
you really have no idea what happened in vietnam do you?
Right.
Because the russian people have more than shown they support taking down Ukraine over Ukrainians wanting the invaders to gtfo.
Just like how we wore the Taliban down over the course of 20 years and now they have given up and seceded all control of afghanistan to the west.
As you mentioned logistical limits probably stop this. They'd also have to divert resources from the front to raise this huge army which they can't afford to do without losing territory.
what is the strategic advantage of conscripting people with full blown aids
Kamikaze material.
biological warfare, tovarisch
Helps morale. The more HIV they have the less reasons to live they have. Brilliant. I bet this was thought up by Shoigu himself, maybed even the Glorius Leader Himself
Imagine how quickly this will spread in the rape barracks. It’s a bug catcher’s wet dream
now what does this remind me off, something that happened about 100 years ago
https://streamable.com/iewsh0
>The journalist mentions that according to Western analysts, Ukraine could retake Kherson as early as next week, and asks a soldier what the situation in the area is like.
>The man answers him that he cannot give any information.... and bites into a watermelon
What is the meaning of this?
Kherson is famous for its watermelons
I swear if ukies leave me blueballed I'll be really upset
Ukies have S tier banter, holy shit
Means, situation is absolute KAVOON
(KAVOON is ukrainian for "watermelon")
god bless these hard motherfrickers
>and bites into a watermelon
He blew his cover! He's a secret globohomosexual HATO Black person shocktroop in whiteface!
Realistically how much of a difference will they make?
I know everybody is shitting on Russia but it's still 200k+ boots on the ground.
>boots on the ground
Imagine believing they’ll be given actual boots. Lol, lmao even.
It will make a huge difference when they start freezing, starving, and murdering their commanding officers.
Realistically, they'll make a difference in terms of causing breakthroughs to be less disastrous for Russia when they happen, since they can literally throw men at the line. Not that they'll stop breakthroughs. But they can slow down one significantly and make the war take longer. Same conclusion, but more time. Probably not even in a way which would exacerbate Ukrainian casualties, but at least it would give them somewhat more, and take longer to process the POWs/dead.
Here's the real rub: As long as they keep holding shit like Donbabwe and Zaphorizia, this isn't gonna be too big a deal other than in how it slows down the timetable. But if they were SMART? If they pulled out of Donbas, evac'd the land corridor and just held tooth and nail to Crimea? They could probably use that force to hold that land for years, if not indefinitely.
Crimea has a very natural chokepoint, and even shitty troops can hold natural chokepoints if given even the barest of killing power and the barest of defenses, unless Ukraine did a whole Desert Storm on them. That COULD be possible.
They won't do it, but they could!
>they can literally throw men at the line
which will slow down the ukrainians because they'll have to stop and reload more often, or process more prisoners.
>even shitty troops can hold natural chokepoints
this isn't the 1800's anymore. natural chokepoints that can be driven through before russian artillerymen can wake up from their drunken stupor won't stop anybody, and that's before you get to the issue of resupplying the damned place with no bridge.
>Partial mobilization is over
In more ways than one.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20117976/putin-mobilisation-chief-found-dead-suspicious-circumstances/
https://www.ibtimes.sg/roman-malyk-putins-enlistment-chief-found-hanged-his-home-67305
>Russia's one of the enlistment chiefs has been found dead in mysterious circumstances. Lt-Col Roman Malyk's body was discovered at his home in east Russia. Reports also claimed that Malyk was found hanged in his home.
>His body was found in a village in the Primorsky region in Russia's eastern coast. A murder investigation has been launched by the officials, who have not ruled out the possibility that Malyk could have taken his own life. But his family members have refused that Malyk committed suicide.
>he followed my orders?
>Drop the banan on him
I do not understand why in the frick putin would target him unless he had some dirt on him
Maybe it's the 1.5 million uniforms or something
I mean he's a Russian official, you know he's guilty of something
Doesn't even need to be.
>Mobilization goes to shit
>Don't wanna be blamed for it
>give your officer in charge the ol' Banana Slamma and have him found after
>you know the country is so apathetic to your shit that they'll just instantly assume you killed him despite what the report says about suicide or an unknown killer
>people will think "our strong leader is purging the people who caused problems with the army"
>all is well
>City-level draft officer
I'm actually inclined to think somebody Zinian'd him.
>What did 300.000 recruits change?
The Russian death toll.
kino pic (for an online "news" rag)
yep
https://twitter.com/solarisveritas/status/1580817639274078208
Not even officials from Moscow are safe
It means the massive amount of Russians fleeing the country had fricked up their economy even more, and he hopes they'll return with this.
Of course everyone knows Putins words are worthless, he said there would be no mobilization before. He just hopes for some people to fall into his trap, and next time he will forbid men from leaving the country when he calls for more to be mobilized.
Ready for peace means he knows he is losing, and he wants to exit the war holding the territories he conquered until now.
Of course everyone knows he will attack again as soon as he gathers his strength. He did that too many times to be trusted, and will never be trusted again.
Also, Russia has always said they were ready for peace. Their terms for peace were unconditional surrender and the full annexation of Ukraine until now. Basically they will try to conquer as much land as their army can take.
Asking for peace with these borders means they think there is no way their army can advance any further into Ukraine.
I love watching vatniks blown up while inhaling my first dose of meth for the day, any compilations anons :)?
I wish to point out that the concept of 'cold European winter' could well be a reference to Europeans freezing due to lack of russian gas to heat their homes. It is bollocks at this point as the supply of non-russian energy has been increased to more or less negate this issue in most European countries, but that may have been the allegation at the time. Regardless of weather forecasts.
You can find new videos of men being conscripted everyday. Military officers waiting at apartment entrances and conscripting any military aged man they see.
I wonder how well their morale will hold against a ukranian offensive, particularly after Russian officials start talking about peace negotiations...
I dunno. How much deeper can morale sink when vast numbers of conscriptees flee the country when they get called up? What can the Ukies do to them that their fellow soldiers already haven't, short of actually killing them?
>What can the Ukies do to them that their fellow soldiers already haven't, short of actually killing them?
Break their misplaced pride.
Russians may be fricking dead inside, in terms of morale, but even the moronic ones all get driven to keep doing their moronic actions by a belief that, by being Russian, things will just eventually work out for them. They think God favors the Russians.
Being captured by Ukies? And worse, being treated better in POW camps than their own lives, their own barracks, pre-capture? That could cause a man to break, if the only thing pushing him was,
>at least my Russian-ness will never be surpassed.
>What can the Ukies do to them that their fellow soldiers already haven't, short of actually killing them?
It's been said before, but literally having them surrender and be interned in return for food, shelter, and being treated like actual fricking human beings.
the partial mobilization ends, as the general mobilization begins
ITT circle jerk by the Ukrainian cyber force
Can't you junta homosexuals come up with more constructive arguments you waiting for the newetodoichka to be sent when your Kherson offensive to be totally btfo?
Can't you go help your Russian brothers in their glorious liberation instead of complaining about it here?
Damn, that vatnig got a seriously photogenic death
The photographer picked a good angle
winter is coming the russians are dying. soon dying in the snow. no help is coming you are all alone.
>Junta idiot thinks that the west will save him
They and Zelensky promised alot to you didn't they. Even if you hide in Poland after Kiev is liberated Wagner will still find you.
Could you morons (i.e. Russians) please decide whether Ukraine is being ruled by the evil Zelensky, by a junta of Ukrainian generals, by the CIA and MI6, by Joe Biden directly, or by satan-worshipping nazi transsexuals?
>forgot Israel
Going out on a limb here and suggesting this was not a mistaken omission.
I assumed y'all would think Zelensky was taking orders straight from the Knesset or the High Priest of Israel or whoever.
Well, clearly it must be the Lizard People and therefore it's all of the above.
You fool, the lizard people elites who secretly control the world are themselves secretly controlled by the dino-people super-elites
>muh lizard people
yeah dude bankers, MIC ceos, and military top brass dont have any power at all
THE GOVERNMENT IS JUST US!!! JAJAJJAJA
>deliberately avoids mentioning the dino-people who really control the world
Nice try, glowie.
>Wagner will still find you
all five of them!
I would say that it's to stop people fleeing the country, conscripted or not.
Keeping as many people within the country, keeping jobs and industry going, is more important than a few more troops.
Anything about calling up X numbers or masses of troops has always been a bluff and was never going to be strategically viable.
I'd wager this is the reason. I wouldn't even be surprised if the mobilisation police continue snatching people even after it's officially concluded.
The thing is, it's probably a lie. He'd just keep snatching people to send them to Ukraine.
Russia has been offering peace talks THE ENTIRE TIME. Right from the start. They're not even invading or annexing the region, the peace talks have always been for those regions to remain in Ukraine with autonomy. Ukraine even agreed to it twice in the maripool agreements and then violated the treaties they signed.
This is the dumbest war fueled by media lies and globalist neoliberal chicken hawk homosexuals.
> the peace talks have always been for those regions to remain in Ukraine with autonomy
Source: the delusions and hallucinations in anon’s head
You can wipe your ass with a russian peace treaty. About all its good for
>Stoner
Based
It's funny to think that Freedomers, Dutyers and even fricking bandits would be more organized than the Russian military and have the capabilities to stand toe to toe with them
Wow. To lie this brazenly, to brag about it even, and leave a public record of it. Russia has been running away and hiding from any possibility of talks until just this last week when monke finally realized he's going to get Gadaffi'd no matter what he does at this point.
There is no document signed by any russian anywhere at any time that is worth one tenth the ink wasted on the signatures.
There is one thing and one thing only that russia can do to initiate a cease-fire immediately:
Get.
The.
Frick.
Out.
Of.
Ukraine.
That cease-fire can hold so long as russia makes not even one single aggressive move toward Ukraine, and (eventually) a peace accord can be reached once russia pays all reparations in full. After Ukraine has been rebuilt & repaired, and russia has paid all of the bills for every single expense, and every hostage returned, every abducted citizen returned, every kidnapped child returned and accounted for ... then the rest of the world can think about sitting down at a table and explaining to russia what will happen to them next. There will be no "negotiations." It will be explained to russia what their path forward is, and russia will obey like good little slaves.
After all that happens, then various countries can start talking with each other about appropriate sanctions relief, fully & entirely depending upon good behavior. Sanctions can be suspended, pending good behavior. Any more shitheaded fricktardery behavior and the suspensions are automatically terminated, pending new discussions about them no sooner than 36 months after any infraction, no matter how minor.
Why would Russia ever pay repatriations for casualties the Ukrainians caused shelling their own territories that wanted autonomy?
Leaving aside your vatBlack persony, they may not have a say. Russian forex reserves to the tune of 300 billion USDBare frozen. They can fairly simply be rewarded to Ukraine.
Look you may as well write up your little homosexual wish list and mail it to santa clause for all it's worth. Russia has been incredibly restrained in dealing with Ukraine. They're not getting into NATO. They're supported by puppet banana republics at the moment. That gravy train isn't going to last forever.
>incredibly restrained
Yes, yes, war crimes en masse and straight-up filtration camps and deportations are "incredibly restrained" by R*ssian standards. That tells you all you need to know about these ''''''people''''''.
>Russia has been offering peace talks THE ENTIRE TIME
you do realize that russia can achieve peace without any talks? all it has to do is gtfo of ukraine. the internationally recognized borders of ukraine. and return the million kidnapped children. plus belgorod and kursk, because frick you for starting this shit and also ukraine needs a buffer zone.
What a load of horse shit. It's no different these areas requested autonomy from Ukraine than Ireland had from the Br*tish.
Russians need to liquidated as a whole and never spoken of again. They are truly subhuman.
As I’ve explained MANY times: the 300k (possibly more, there’s some evidence that they’re lying about it being a partial mobilization) is to shore up the lines. Ukraine has been under full mobilization for months which ended up with them out-numbering the Russians by a large amount (3-to-1 at least?). With the constant blowing up of ammo depots and bridges Ukraine felt the time was right for a counter-offensive. And they were right. In most conflict zones the Russians retreated with separatists fighting rear-actions to cover the Russians’ escape. Surprisingly the Russians seemed to barely even try to fight before retreating. Being clearly outnumbered Putin decided his trooos wouldn’t be able to handle it so ordered them to pull back. Maybe he was worried that the southern regions would be threatened if he got tied down. So he decided to keep his troops fresh and still viable to move south if needed.
The Ukrainian problem, as usual, is that they lack a lot of basic mechanization. They built up a huge army, but it’s an army of light infantry with little fire support and poor maneuver capability. All they can realistically do is walk forward with some mechanized support, so they can’t decisively punch through and force a general route. This has given Putin the time to pull in more troops, even giving them 2 weeks of training including special unit training. He wants to solidify the lines simply by closing manpower numbers gap. This is to obviously to strengthen Putin’s position in the soon upcoming negotiations.
There’s 0 — zero, nil, etc — chance of Putin dragging this out to the point of forcing Germany off Russian gas for good. It honestly comes down to how much Putin thinks he can get away with before that happens. I think it’s really soon, just a few weeks.
Aren't you the guy who thought the BTGs were a great idea being more heavily mechanized and being able to do artillery spam readily? Not saying you are wrong, but some of the Kremlin's decisions so far don't seem to be built on a solid foundation of what's happening on the ground and is more rooted in what's happening in Putin's head.
>This is to obviously to strengthen Putin’s position in the soon upcoming negotiations.
What negotiation?
Lavrov and co are sending out peacefeelers trying to negotiate an "honorable peace'.
To whom? After the annexation, Zelensky signed a decree banning any negotiations with Putin's administration.
NATO/US/EU. It's too humiliating to directly negotiate with Ukraine.
It wouldn't stop the war because it's a bilateral issue between the current government of Russia and Ukraine.
>burn off the remainder of Russian males & non-Russian ethnic groups with sectarian axes to grind
>pave the way for China to colonize over the next 80 years for a unitary, monolithic Eurasian Superstate to carry on the project of Communism against the West
The thought has occurred to true believers never ferreted out of the Kremlin by a Nuremberg 2 for communism. It's not as though patrimony means anything to a true believer. That said, 15 million met at arms (compared to 30 million under the USSR) is possible on paper, 25 if the scrape every last barre bottom. Rope a dope Ukes onto your own internationally recognized borders, plaster with Thermobarics and/or tactical yield nukes; zerg rush the Western part of the country from the North & Odessa from the South. It's not like they have any options showing their "not actually peer" power level.
The biggest difference it made was that they could stop-loss professional soldiers who resigned from the army in the previous 6 months.
Why is being anti-Russian considered being Reddit on /k/? I have never supported Russia once in my life, nor given them a benefit of the doubt, but I'm Reddit?
because /chug/gers are literally just contrarians who think multiculturalism is based now because Putin said it
>Why is being anti-Russian considered being Reddit on /k/?
It's not, /misc/ddit /chug/gers are tring to run an unsuccessful psyop to convince people that Russia is based actually, for cobtrarian reasons.
>2 recruits just killed 12 other recruits and injured 14 during more a live fire exercise near the border where th Ukraine.
What is the tactical advantage of demoralizing your troops to the point they become the Soviet equivalent of school shooters?
>Take out 200k people from your economy to invade a field of mud
Econ majors will spend all semester discussing this
Plus the 700k who just ran off
the best option would be to end the war (buy time) and then use espionage to change the regime
none of the euro Kyievans want to live in the donbass anyways
but they want the land for it's ressources. it's what they say:
>donbass is ukraine
not
>donbass people are ukrainians
no government on earth would let some of it's serfs secede. well, except liechtenstein.
>the rules based liberal institutional democratic world order
Their PM at the time was conservative nationalist short of going full Franco, of course he would beat the shit out of anyone who would dare to secede from his precious Spain.
they tried to prevent people from simply expressing their vote (opinion)
inb4 our climate models aren't good enough for weather modification but we are REALLY SURE that if we just pay 1000x more for energy in Europe that will save our beach front condos