> A lot of them are allegedly from Indonesian premier special forces Kopassus and Indonesian Strategic Reserves according to some sources. The West Papuan National Liberation Army spokesman Sebby Sambom commented on the incident "We've received confirmation from our field commander that they've killed 9 men". He further affirm that the previously held Susi Air Pilot from New Zealand would only be released through peaceful negotiation, though it isn't clear if the incident is related to Indonesian military effort to liberate the hostage. Previously another Indonesian soldier has been KIA during the search due to falling of a ravine.
Indog here, can't believe this catastrophe happened. Implies either bad training, discipline, or lack of ISR for this shitshow to happen. And here I am thinking about joining the reserves.
well at least most of casualties are probably jawakn1ggers.
Good, Indonesians are imperialist scum all imperialists who invade must die
>The random white guy
Wonder what he’s doing there? Should probably not associate himself with jungle rebels fighting an insurgency. Maybe his parents never taught him better.
Bruz, he’s a hostage. It’s the only interesting thing to have happened in indonesia in ages
Proofs?
>proofs
For which bit, the hostage or nothing interesting happening in Indonesia? Here’s a link about the hostage and this current shitshow.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65295678.amp
he has a widened anus right now
and he loves it
>papuans fighting indonesians
check
>kiwi held hostage
check
>Australia getting the blame
tbd
Australia is supporting West Papuan independence. They are responsible for these deaths
I wish that was true
duplicitous,perfidious, sunburned, Albions
I (an Australian) personally support Papua reunification because border gore triggers me
Oh no, not West Papua *again*.
We were trying to get along with the Indonesians, we needed their help versus China.
Considering Indonesians periodically ape out and kill chinks who live there it might not be that hard
>Considering Indonesians periodically ape out and kill chinks who live there it might not be that hard
That was decades ago. Indonesia is heavily under Chink influence, both in terms of their business class and geopolitics.
>how is indonesian sf so shit
Because Indonesians are cowards who don't even recognize Kosovo.
Nah, Indons are still in their "non-aligned movement" phase from the Cold War. They have a national neurosis about foreign influence on their shores, so their tendency is to go full insular and autarkic. But yeah, otherwise, they're not gonna be reliable allies in any shooting war. They're like the India of SEA in that respect, but without a real bone to pick with China.
>Nah, Indons are still in their "non-aligned movement" phase from the Cold War. They have a national neurosis about foreign influence on their shores
Malaysia, Brunei and even Singapore recognize Kosovo.
Indonesians go out of their way not to recognize Kosovo.
Indonesia and Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal.
> https://theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/19/we-are-worried-indonesia-and-malaysia-express-concern-over-australias-nuclear-submarine-plan
> https://channelnewsasia.com/commentary/aukus-australia-nuclear-asean-china-south-sea-tension-2191776
Mind you, it doesn't matter whether the submarine is diesel powered or nuclear powered. A nuclear sub doesn't necessarily carry nuclear weapons and alternatively a diesel sub can also carry nuclear weapons. So the statements weren't based on real security concern and was purely political and meant to enamor China.
>so their tendency is to go full insular and autarkic.
Indonesia produces nothing in terms of defense, but buys everyone from other countries. They also like to claim credit for shit they didn't create, like the Kaplan medium tank (Turkey) and the KF-21 fighter jet (South Korea). They are the furthest thing from autarkic.
>They're like the India of SEA in that respect, but without a real bone to pick with China.
All of Maritime Southeast Asia has territorial disputes with China.
nta but Indonesia and Malaysia release new statements on AUKUS in 2023
>https://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/-/enhanced-trilateral-security-partnership-between-australia-the-united-kingdom-and-the-united-states-of-america-aukus-
>https://twitter.com/kemlu_ri/status/1635487830314217473?s=61&t=ox7wiYMgklaiYRyHyhJCJw
the 2021 statements focus on arms race while 2023 is softer and focus on calls for transparency and NPT commitments
>Indonesians go out of their way not to recognize Kosovo.
How does this refute my argument? A lot of countries don't recognize Kosovo for geopolitical reasons, especially countries like Indonesia which have actual secessionist movements going on, simply because recognition would imply some kind of legitimacy to unilateral declarations of sovereignty. That's why Spain doesn't recognize Kosovo either despite being in NATO and the EU.
>Indonesia and Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal.
For Malaysia, there's definitely an element of wanting to be on the Chinese good side, and yeah, Indonesia is the same to a degree. But in general Indonesia views SEA as its backyard and wants to turn the region into a big neutral zone. That's why they've been trying so hard to turn Jakarta into the Brussels of SEA.
>Indonesia produces nothing in terms of defense, but buys everyone from other countries.
The Indons have to rely on foreign purchases like pretty much every non-major military, but in the first place, they force foreign partners into joint ventures because they want that domestic capability for themselves. But if you look at their trade policy outside the military, it's a sea of export bans, non-tariff barriers and foreign equity restrictions. Economic nationalism and autarky is a very strong idea in Indonesia compared to the rest of SEA.
>All of Maritime Southeast Asia has territorial disputes with China.
Yeah, but China's 9-dash line over the Natuna islands is really a nothingburger compared to the Spratlys or Paracels, let alone India's long, if inhospitable border with China. To India, China is a powerful and ever-present enemy. To the Indonesians, China's saber-rattling is annoying, but they're still more than happy to sell all their nickel to them.
>Indonesia and Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal.
moron take
yeah, there's no way for them to oppose it
but it's symbolically saying to china
>we're not a part of this
>Malaysia went out of their way to criticize the AUKUS submarine deal.
Aren't they part of the FPDA? Why would they object to their closest ally gaining better capability?
they dont see
Found the Malingshit vermin. You Malon moron couldn't even survive a single day once the mighty Garuda Indonesia destroyed your shitty "armed forces".
Chinks always think that paying bribes gives them influence and then they impotently seethe and cry when the bribed party pulls a Bane and asks if they feel in charge.
how is indonesian sf so shit
trained by Chinese SF ez
indonesia should be professional and work with the West on military instead of the yellow toys and dildo makers
>China: build the dildos
> USA: Brings the dildos to your childrens school...with intent
China 1 - 0 USA
Death to ZOG
>Indonesian equivalent of Green Berets
>jobbing to Papuans in sandals
was no one standing watch?
>be Indonesian
>finally have to fight someone better armed and motivated than East Timorese civilians for once
>get your ass kicked
Didn't see that one coming, not at all.
aww sweet another Indoniggese hate thread
>some random papuan gets to fingerfrick and use a steyr
>i cant even own one
>Those warzone avatars were actually realistic
Saw?
These mother frickers look like Ewoks with M16s
>America has taken the obscure tribal militia market away from the AK
>grease gun
>FAL
>Galil
>Longbow
Unfathomably based
>ywn dab on Jungle asian "special forces" with your homemade longbow and 80yr old grease gun
No FALs or galils, just variants of domestic produced FNCs by Indonesia.
Most of their weapons are from Indonesia
They stab soldiers with spears to loot their stuff
Sometimes corrupt soldiers sell their guns for food (lmao)
>https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/422136/papua-liberation-army-sold-arms-by-indonesian-military
>Kogeya said he bought ammunition and weapons from the TNI and Police because that was their way of accessing food while posted in Papua.
They actually use them effectively.
So Avatar is not as unrealistic as I thought
>how good can you get?
>ywf you never perfom ritual cannibalism and don't even have divine protection offered by the spirits of your ancestors
I ritually eat pussy, does that count?
Doesn't count if its raw
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopassus#Issues
jesus fricking christ
/k/ shits on SEALs 24/7 but even SEALs don't go randomly shooting up our own airports or kidnapping human rights protestors straight out of D.C.
And that's the problem. They should.
How does the West Papua half of the island have a population of like half a million while Papua New Guinea has a population of like 8 million? Is the land on the Western half of the island just garbage to live in, or are the Indonesians just fricking them that hard?
West Papua province is just one of 6 Indog provinces on New Guinea. The total population of Western New Guinea is about 5.5 mil
>THIS IS AUSFAILIAN LIES. WHAT ABOUT ABORIGINALS/AFGHANISTAN/ASSANGE . FRICK YOU AUSTRALAIN DOG
>twelve Kopassus members wearing ski masks and armed with AK-47 rifles
so where do you buy a ski mask in indonesia? I can't imagine they have a big winter sports scene with their climate. Do they order them online or what?
the second and last are based. The rest never happened.
Ah sweet a PNG thread, I love these. Here's hoping they don't eat the Kiwi
Indonesian janny seething rn
at least now I know that he's not a jawakn1gger.
These Papua dudes are some bad motherfrickers
It's the blend of mixed salad hodgepodge gear and tribal attire that really makes the aesthetic for me.
Are the vtubers safe?
Asking the important question.
Crazy how many vtubers they have despite having the largest Muslim population in the world
>losing to barely stone age spearchuckers.
The absolute state of Indonesia, we're not like this even on a bad day.
t. Flip.
C'mon now, don't stir shit up, we're one of the few neighbors Indons are actually cool with
OP is fricking Malayshit vermin disguise as Indonesians to spreading fake news.
OP ialah Malon bankrupt anjing ingris
OP here. sorry anon, lot of genuine malingshit in this thread, but I am 100% indog. This clusterfrick is fricking embarassing and there is no point denying it.
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In a fight between Kopassus, VDV and Unit 777 who would lose the hardest?
My sides, of course
Hopefully those abbo pygmies get napalmed
>Kopassus
How? Isn't that Kopassus is the best Indonesia special forces ever? The tip of the spear, the creme de la creme of Indonesia Armed Forces? The best special forces ever that unrivalled. Even American General admitted that SINGLE Kopasssus operator are much much worthy than whole regiment of US Navy SEALs? How come they got raped by a bunch spear chucking Papuan natives?
>bunch spear chucking Papuan natives
That's the problem, they expected dried grass as a weapon
Kill jawakadrun. Behead jawakadrun. Roundhouse kick a jawakadrun into the concrete. Slam dunk a jawakadrun baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy jawak. Defecate in a jawakadrun food. Launch jawakadrun into the sun. Stir fry jawakadrun in a wok. Toss jawakadrun into active volcanoes. Urinate into a jawakadrun gas tank. Judo throw jawakadrun into a wood chipper. Twist jawakadrun heads off. Report jawakadrun to the IRS. Karate chop jawakadrun in half. Curb stomp pregnant jawakadrun. Trap jawakadrun in quicksand. Crush jawakadrun in the trash compactor. Liquefy jawakadrun in a vat of acid. Eat jawakadrun. Dissect jawakadrun. Exterminate jawakadrun in the gas chamber. Stomp jawakadrun skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate jawakadrun in the oven. Lobotomize jawakadrun. Mandatory abortions for jawakadrun. Grind jawakadrun fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown jawakadrun in fried chicken grease. Vaporize jawakadrun with a ray gun. Kick old jawakadrun down the stairs. Feed jawakadrun to alligators. Slice jawakadrun with a katana.
>Jakarta decided to send reinforcement
>Transported Army Special Forces General alongside squadron of premier Tier-1 Kopassus, Satgas, Detachment -88 and Kopaska operators on Indonesian Air Force B-737
>Immediately crash
How?
one race the human race
Did we found the missing link between apes and humans?
Australian Aborginals, Torres Straight Islanders, Papuans, and Solomon Islanders all descend from Dravidians
https://en.tempo.co/read/1716228/tni-denies-9-soldiers-killed-by-armed-group-in-nduga-papua
The Indonesian National Army (TNI) denied claims by an armed criminal group that they had killed nine TNI soldiers during an attack in Nduga, Papua on Saturday, April 15, 2023. Head of the TNI Information Center Rear Admiral Julius Widjojono said that soldiers who had been separated because of the attack had begun to be able to regroup with their units.
"The current development is very positive, the troops have started to gather," Julius said via text message on Monday, April 17, 2023.
Julius said that the TNI continues to maintain communication with field personnel to gather information about the development of the situation. Julius said that the TNI is still recording the number of personnel who managed to regroup with their units.
The Raider Infantry Battalion 321/Galuh Taruna was attacked by an armed group in Nduga on Saturday, April 15, 2023. The team was approaching the location where Susi Air pilot Philip Mark Marthens had been taken hostage by the armed groups on February 7 this year.
The TNI said that it lost one of its soldiers, First Private Miftahul Arifin, who took a shot and fell 15 meters into a ravine.
Meanwhile, the West Papua National Liberation Army-Free Papua Organization (TPNPB-OPM) claimed they shot dead nine TNI members during the attack. The TPNPB-OPM spokesman Sebby Sambom also claimed that they had stolen nine weapons from the TNI.
Julius said that Sebby's claim was a lie and asked the public not to believe it. Julius said that the Commander of the Indonesian National Armed Forces, Admiral Yudo Margono, is currently visiting Papua to meet face-to-face with troops and they will hold a press conference.
What the frick does that griftern1gger dedy cuckbuzier is doing? This is dogshit PR and info warfare, it literally tell told anyone with a double digit IQ that a disaster did fricking happens. If any indog glown1gger is reading this, give me a commision and I would probably do a better job.
Unfathomably based
Bullshit revisionism written eternal seething rent free bogans
>Bullshit revisionism written eternal seething rent free bogans
Why is it the more pathetic and without historical note a country is the more its nationalist seeth about how great they are?
Indonesia is not great. Calling it a shithole is probably correct. But that doesn’t change the fact that most literature and information circulating in the anglosphere regarding these events is pure propaganda inspired by the eternally seething bogan. Of course a low IQ bogan wouldn’t be able to comprehend this paradox.
Dunns sources were ADF and Defence Department leaks, those leaks come from signal intercepts and Indonesian military informants
The fact that Indonesia hasn't been able to stamp out the West Papuan resistance after 58 years and couldn't rig the Timorese independence vote in 1999 is all the proof you need of its incompetency
> Dunns sources were ADF and Defence Department leaks, those leaks come from signal intercepts and Indonesian military informants
So literally bogan glowwies disinfo, nothing wrong with my previous statement.
> 1999
We had Armenia’s pashinoglu equivalent in charge during the crisis.
> west papua
A few thousand poorly armed rabble scattered across unhospitable jungles and mountains the size of germany has never been a problem until the 2000s. The recent resurgence is thanks to jawakn1ggers incompetence that is increasingly taking over army positions.
>it makes us look bad so its wrong
lel
>its other peoples fault we're incompetent
hmm
>A few thousand poorly armed rabble scattered across unhospitable jungles and mountains the size of germany has never been a problem until the 2000s.
successfully resisting for decades
>The recent resurgence is thanks to jawakn1ggers incompetence that is increasingly taking over army positions.
mate it's been like this since the days of Suharto
They first and foremost want to be independent from Indonesia
The island was divided in colonial times, the Germans had the East and the Dutch had the West. When the Dutch withdrew from Indonesia they set Papua up to be independent from the rest of Indonesia because of it is distinctly different from the Muslim and Javanese dominated Indonesia.
Before colonial times there was no governance higher than local tribes
But they're the same people, the same language, the same culture. So they'd naturally have close relations.
It is very common in PNG
>What benefit does the Indonesian public get out of ruling them? Any resources worth killing for (not that there's anything wrong with that)?
There is a literal mountain of Gold and Copper in West Papua worth tens of billions of dollars.
The Indonesian people and West Papuan people do not get any of this of course.
Borneo, and those are lumber camps
RAISE THE MORNING STAR
Based, God willing West Papua will be free one day (hopefully soon). It will probably be a shithole but at least they will be free from indo-oppression.
Do they want to unite with Papua New Guinea, more autonomy within Indonesia, or are they pushing for full independence?
why is he wearing a monkey mask?
He thought cosplaying an American would boost foreign aid.
>According to Peter Dunns book Timor: A People Betrayed in the first ~two years of Indonesias occupation of East Timor they may have lost as many as 5,000 troops to the Timorese resistance movements insurgency
>Units were having to be rotated out after just a few months due to low morale, commanders were making deals with local cells to not go on patrol in exchange for not being attacked
With the situation spiraling out of control like that the Indonesians probably would have become amendable to a negotiated withdrawal if the West had politely and firmly suggested it
Instead the Great Humanitarian Jimmy Carter authorized a new arms package that included OV-10 Broncos and napalm to strike the mountainous interior of Timor where rebels had made their bases and many refugees had fled
do the West Papuans use Phantom Shields like in PNG?
>The Phantom
Damn, I haven't seen that character in the funny papers since the 90s.
and yet further proof that Indonesia as a country should not exist
More Phantom corps.
>And here I am thinking about joining the reserves.
Join the Air Force and work on or fly stuff, C-model F-16s recommended. Being a bullet sponge in Asia is always unwise while air forces and navies tend less expendable with vastly better living conditions.
Papuans move easily in jungle and gave Japs hell in WWII. They rescued Allied aircrews often such that the 80 FS "Juvat" fighter squadron at Kunsan carries their name to this day.
What benefit does the Indonesian public get out of ruling them? Any resources worth killing for (not that there's anything wrong with that)?
>What benefit does the Indonesian public get out of ruling them? Any resources worth killing for (not that there's anything wrong with that)?
The orangutan prostitute labor camps are in West Papua, arent they?
It's never not funny to see a country whose entire military history is born out of guerilla warfare getting BTFOd by guerillas
>20 MIA
looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!
>The Papuans are a mixture of Lutherans and traditional animist beliefs
>It is the Indonesians who go around raping
Indonesians are raping THAT?? Yikes.
Indonesians prefer shaved orangutans chained to beds
ngl these papuans sound kinda based
sucks about that kiwi tho