Old Stuff Is Better

Just replaced the motor in a 50 year old clothes dryer.
It's running great.
If I were to spend $3k on a top of the line model now it would probably last 3 years tops.
I don't foresee any reason to ever get rid of my 1970s dryer, I could repair it until I die and then pass it on.
Why was stuff made better in the past?
Why is crap more expensive now when it is lower quality?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fewer minorities making it.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Been using this random desk vacuum I found at my dads. It's probably 40 years old and works great.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even the plastic was better back then. I just put my entire weight on a square plastic 50 year old nut and it didn't fail. Absolutely impossible material standards. I think we have regressed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was nylon moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Plastic is now made to disintegrate.
        I bought a Philips CORDED shaver because I didn’t want to get into the battery scam, and every bathroom has an outlet for shaving in it.
        Shaver works fine.
        The cord’s outer plastic sheath has disintegrated, you can pull chunks of it off very easily, revealing the inner wires.
        Even my old radio-shack adapters with the cheapest PVC insulation are still perfectly OK.
        They must have engineered this plastic—at great cost, no doubt—to fail at the same time as a battery operated shaver. I hardly ever use the thing, it sits in its case mostly.
        Philips is already known for their role in planned obsolescence with light bulbs, I just got scammed again in the modern era.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because ~~*they*~~ want you to buy a new one after it breaks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no moron
      it's because everything is made from recycled plastics which are shit
      Back in the day you could use brand new oil to make plastics before the boomers raped the earth and left us with shit.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get ready for li-ion powered clothes dryers.
    I can assure you we’re working on it.
    This adds a completely new failure tree, and if the dryer or the batteries fail, each is more than the cost than a new dryer.
    We’ve already got internet connected dryers to get into drying as a service. We can detect if you’re illegally using your house to let another family live with you, we send that to your city government and they double your tax rate.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’ll do you one better:
      https://www.impulselabs.com/
      An induction cooktop with a battery bank in it that’s so large you get a tax credit for installing it because it can technically backfeed into the grid. Nevermind the fact that if you read up on it a bit they made it with an obnoxious battery bank so that you could use a 120v line to make converting gas stoves easier. because running a 240 line is just oh so much more difficult than running a 120v line apparently. And let’s be real the people spending 6k on a cooktop are just hiring an electrician to run a line to the stove who will run whatever kind of outlet they want.
      But it can boil an undisclosed but looks like 4qt pot water in 40 seconds. Meanwhile I have a $100 gas wok burner on my back patio that can easily boil over a gallon of water in a similar timeframe.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good lord, I used to joke about a battery operated stove to compare with other absurdities like picrel.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        240 can be difficult to get utility to drop power for. 110 is easier as you can drop it anywhere.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >back patio
        imagine going outside

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Survivorship bias in action. Old equipment that was shit has already been destroyed decades ago. Only the most durable products now stand, giving you the illusion that all old stuff is durable

      .
      Don't forget to make it SaaS and brick itself when the company inevitably goes out of business

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is crap more expensive now when it is lower quality?
    Its an illusion. High quality stuff cost just as much back then relative to household income.
    Also there is survivor bias, all the cheap trash broke down and was replaced decades ago, only the best of the best survived.

    Appliances might not last 50 years anymore, but they last around 8-10. The whole "it only lasts 3 years!" shit is straight hyperbole.

    Look into efficiency ratings.
    A fridge from the 80s power comsumption on average cost like $200 a year.
    A modern energy star rated fridge costs about $35 a year.
    Your basic b***h new $900 fridge pays for itself in less than 6 years in energy savings.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      technology >>has increased in efficiency %600 in the >>last 40 years
      Doubt.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, it hasn’t.
        A lot of the good refrigerants (e,g. Original Freon) were banned which decreased the efficiency.
        Luckily, we’ve even banned R134a now, since we figured out 2g of something flammable is too small to worry about, so we’re back to the flammable good stuff like r600a, and plain old propane.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Luckily, we’ve even banned R134a now
          Did they go through with that? I heard it was coming, but it's official now? I can't buy 134a at wal-mart anymore?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I can't buy 134a at wal-mart anymore?
            its still in stock in my state as of today. You can also buy 12oz cans or 30lb tanks from walmart.com right now

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Walmart.com is less regulated than wish/temu/alibaba/ebay, and has nothing to do with the retail wal-mart.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's in stock and on the shelf at my local retail stores. It's also available for order from walmart.com to be picked up same day in their retail stores.

                What more do you fricking want? R134a is still available.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > interesting. It was really hard to get a few months ago. Anyway, as far as I know, it’s still banned but that doesn’t usually stop people from selling it. Or, something stupid, like you just have to get it shipped in from another state because you can’t buy it locally. Even dollar general used to carry it, but not any more.

                Made in india? Really?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so we’re back to the flammable good stuff like r600a, and plain old propane.
          big hvac doesn't want you to know this one simple trick

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pressures are higher, but the compressors themselves are smaller (and also end up being cheaper)
            The stupid MBA/Marketing grads that run companies and invaded ozone depleting and climate changing standards bodies were tripping over themselves just to save .01” in tubing wall thickness.
            It’s the same massive brain rot that they use to sell cordless tools at 60 V now so they can use 2” of 28 awg wire instead of 2” of 26 ga wire, even though everything else costs more, and a 12 V system can have the exact same total power.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dont use propane like that its full of moisture. use air duster r152a instead :^)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Doubt.
        Google search away anon.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use a solar powered clothes dryer
    Its called a clothes line

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The’ve banned that here with city bylaws… it looks bad apparently.
      Out electricity is 33 cents a kWh, not including all the fixed costs they’ve added, like “distribution fee” which is now most of my bill.
      They even tried to directly add a “billing fee” but the courts slapped that down.
      It’s funny, most electricity infrastructure (mostly hydro and nuclear) was all paid off 50 years ago, but it keeps going up.
      It should be free by now, but we pay for staff consisting of MBA/Marketing grads that sit around all day to think of new ways to scam the populace.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can get the inside of home drying lines. They appear to be pretty popular in Japan and asian countries.

        https://www.walmart.com/ip/Strata-Heavy-Duty-Retractable-Clothesline-Outdoor-Indoor-Portable-Wall-Mounted-50-ft-Single-Cable-Retractable-Laundry-Line-for-Wet-Dry-Clothes/5362709928?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101015803

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Good suggestion, I’ll look into that.
          I guess the europeans and japanese have this shit down to a science.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was during an economic boom so new families in new homes didn't have home appliances and everyone was starting to afford them. Nowadays almost everyone has them so to keep selling they have to make a product that actually fails

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you replace the motor instead of rebuilding it?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine buying anything new when thrift stores give a one month warranty

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Sieg

    Survivorship bias

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Old stuff is just pre tested. If it were shit and or hard to repair it would have failed long ago.
    God I love thrift store appliances

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