>off the grid >still comes into town every three days to buy gasoline and food
Poseur.
No, you like, don't get it, man. I'm off the grid, man. Even though I pay bills and I'm financially tracked I'm like, totally off the grid and stuff, like, you know? Anyways dude, I'm more off the grid than you, man. Even though I'm actually connected to the grid and I'm lame as hell, man.
Why the frick are you using the internet then homosexual
Why are these so many spastic c**ts on this thread? Do you even know what off grid means??
I'm the poster above with solar and lpg yet fricktards on here claim thats not off grid
No you just don't get it, man. I'm totally like, off the grid, man. Even though I'm tracked digitally no different than anyone else, I'm like, off the grid, because I don't have a like, utility bill haha.
No, man. You like, don't get it. I keep telling you I'm off grid even though I'm completely tracked like everyone else and you just like, don't understand.
No, man. You like, don't get it. I keep telling you I'm off grid even though I'm completely tracked like everyone else and you just like, don't understand.
I'm not off the grid but I've minimized my grid presence
>hunt >fish >have a decent size garden >cook my own food >use whats in the cupboard >use cash everywhere >turn off location on my cell phone >use vpns & proxies & more private browsers >wfh >cancel all subscriptions, torrent & plex/stream everything >not politically active whatsoever >no social media
I guess other than my gun club, credit card/bank account i have open, having a job and insurance its pretty hard to find me. Also have the same name as a famous person so that helps as even if i was online it would be difficult.
so thats what you zoomers confuse with on/off grid? online presence?
Being off/on the grid means a couple things, sir. Also. I'm 36. Not a zoomie.
1) Energy Grid. You are referencing power and gas. If you don't drive anywhere, you minimize the gas you use. If you have a home, there is a pretty good chance you have electricity unless its a remote cabin in the woods somewhere, which are usually not permanent residences. For 99% of people, they pay for electricity from a 3rd party and don't create their own. I have seen some homes with very unique and cool energy methods, self sufficient stuff to an extent too, but for the most part they all have a tie into the local electric company at some level. Would be very interested to talk to someone who isn't/wasn't. I have a real fireplace and it helps heat the home in winter, but ultimately I still have a furnace.
2) Digital/Internet Presence. In order to buy a home you usually need good credit, have an online checking account or bank account. A job and or proof that you can pay the mortgage, unless you inherited a home or something outright. As far as online presence. There are absolutely things you can do to stay away from 'the matrix' and big tech's information grabbing system, which is everywhere. They have a profile on you no matter what you do, so the key is to minimize it. When I switched from having social media and using chrome for everything to take steps to minimize my presence I saw huge changes in the algorithms.
3) Self sufficiency, this includes food. Its generally impossible to live completely off what you kill and grow, but you can definitely get >75% of it and that is a huge win both financially and probably from a health aspect too. I know when I rip green onions out of the ground they're fresh for 3 weeks where as if I don't eat them within 3 days from the grocery store they're starting to go bad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
its basic meaning is still off power/water/sewage grid and thats what 99% of people think off. you can try to redefine it all you want into some schizo leave no trace thing it wont change shit.
off grid is a measurable thing, its the state of a housing, where you simply walk around it inside and out >yep, no wires and plumbing >this house is off grid
you talk about a lifestyle or mindset.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and the most common reason to be off grid is simply you have a cabin in the middle of absolute nowhere where such things simply dont exist. nothing special about it people used to live like that not long ago.
2 years ago
Anonymous
its basic meaning is still off power/water/sewage grid and thats what 99% of people think off. you can try to redefine it all you want into some schizo leave no trace thing it wont change shit.
off grid is a measurable thing, its the state of a housing, where you simply walk around it inside and out >yep, no wires and plumbing >this house is off grid
you talk about a lifestyle or mindset.
I’m not getting into a semantics argument with you Mr Autist.
I’m just saying minimizing your grid footprint, whichever grid that may be, is in peoples best interest in my humble opinion. Not everyone can just pickup and leave society. God knows some days I want to, but I’m not rolling my kid out of school and dry aging all my meat and walking outside 30 yards to an outhouse to shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
for frick sake, its not about leaving society its about NOT HAVING POWER AND WATER TO YOUR FRICKING HOUSE!
you know you can do that while still having a car parked outside and a regular job...
go to /misc/ with your twisted schizo shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're a fricking dipshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But you can do that and have social media and be easy to find, hence on the grid
2 years ago
Anonymous
I swear this board gets dumber by the year, the grid refers to connection to utilities not being removed from society as in the power grid ect
2 years ago
Anonymous
>easy to find >hence on the grid
2 years ago
Anonymous
Marxist israelites love to definition twist
I swear this board gets dumber by the year, the grid refers to connection to utilities not being removed from society as in the power grid ect
If you are referencing the electrical grid than yes. If you're referencing the internet grid or land than no.
Also what about pirates? All pirates are off the grid. They live in the seas and don't have a permanent residence or pay taxes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Now you're getting it, bout fricking time
2 years ago
Anonymous
Internet grid? Land grid?
2 years ago
Anonymous
internet dont heat your house or give you hot and cold tap water. living in a house without these things require an effort from your side, deleting your phones browser history and putting it on flight mode doesnt.
see this post >im not walking outside 30 yards to an outhouse to shit
the most comfy thing you can do is so unthinkable for someone so they choose something with less effort instead >No, man. You like, don't get it. I keep telling you I'm off grid even though I'm completely powered and plumed like everyone else and you just like, don't understand. i just use a vpn and a fake facebook account man, totally off grid no one can find me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are putting words in my mouth. Read what I said again you incompetent fricking clown
I'm not off the grid but I've minimized my grid presence
>hunt >fish >have a decent size garden >cook my own food >use whats in the cupboard >use cash everywhere >turn off location on my cell phone >use vpns & proxies & more private browsers >wfh >cancel all subscriptions, torrent & plex/stream everything >not politically active whatsoever >no social media
I guess other than my gun club, credit card/bank account i have open, having a job and insurance its pretty hard to find me. Also have the same name as a famous person so that helps as even if i was online it would be difficult.
I never said I'm impossible to find. For fricks sake it would be easy if you're in the government. I just said I like to minimize my presence online and stay away from the big tech data gathering technocratic data mining for both my mental health and out of spite to those Silicon Valley homosexuals.
And yes, obviously the internet doesn't heat your house or give you water you half-a-meatball. But without the internet life would be extremely difficult to anyone that isn't retired in 2022. You could definitely do it if you were retired or had no kids or no financial obligations, but haven't met a single person in that boat. Even homeless people owe back taxes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Point thar everyone is trying to get through to you is that offgrid doesn't have anything to do with the internet. It's not being hooked up to grid utilities do you see it yet?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I understand that; I'm explaining to you people that the internet and data mining they are engaging in is much more invasive and tyrannical. There is literally no point in being off the grid if you are on the internet. Which, by default, everybody in this thread is.
Unless of course you're just trying to be self sufficient with water, sewage, and electricity, which I have yet to see anyone do 100% except for 'secondary homes' like a cottage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ffs no one is saying hiding from whoever you're paranoid about, we are talking about not relying on the utility grid. If you want to talk about that shit start another thread on it
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not 'paranoid' about anything I just try to live my life like its 2006. I stopped progressing with almost all technology past that point as it became invasive.
I don't think I will start a new thread. You can if you'd like
2 years ago
Anonymous
only thing you are off at the moment are topic and meds
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can't have a mental illness and get my guns taken away if i never go to a shrink. Think ahead.
I don't want to shittalk about vanlifers but I couldn't choose it personnaly because whatever your way of describing the grid, you are in it : >You depend on public facilities : roads, water where you stay >they keep the internet >you drive a big machine someone else made for you with components coming from everywhere... >you depends are private services for gas, reparations,... >you thus depends on the public service of money. You need regular money even.
Van life is not off grid, that's why women and couples do it. It's even very connected to a society, even more for "digital nomads" and all those who in fact build the coming world with a work in technology and media.
It's nice but very very normy, modern and very dependant.
I am off the grid. Here is a picture I took of my wife this morning. She was taking a nap after getting up before sunrise to help me with our veggie garden and feeding our chickens and quail
Love the minimalist vibe of this pic. Must have taken ages to hand-plane all those timbers. What kind of solar panels do you use to power your chandeliers?
This is fricking with my head. Why does she look so tiny, and the furniture so laughably big in comparison? Why does the chair in the corner look like a CG render, and why does the sofa not match the back wall? Why does her lighting slightly mismatch the rest of the room, and the sofa deformations not quite look right, but her hair and arm drape so naturally? Why the bizarre photoshop halo on that lamp, and no reflections or scattered light from it?
>wholly dependent on the grid for everything >thinks he's in a position to talk down to others who are significantly less dependent on the grid than he is for being too dependent
No, you like, don't get it, man. I'm off the grid, man. Even though I pay bills and I'm financially tracked I'm like, totally off the grid and stuff, like, you know? Anyways dude, I'm more off the grid than you, man. Even though I'm actually connected to the grid and I'm lame as hell, man.
I have. I own a 10 acre homestead in Brazil. Got it a few weeks ago, currently building a cabin. I got all the licenses to keep the government from showing up to frick with me, I also have a few friends and family who know where I am. I use my neighbors electricity to charge my tools, I plan to have solar power soon.
Have you?
Got every possible document, my biggest fear is the gvt claiming I'm breaking some underground law or something like that. As far as my laywer is concerned, I can't lose my land without getting compensation. By physical defenses I only have a fence, dogs and two pistols. I'm planning on having floodlights and cameras soon.
In Brazil?
lol
It's my country. I didn't feel like going elsewhere, considered Paraguay, but whatever.
I'm not off the grid but I've minimized my grid presence
>hunt >fish >have a decent size garden >cook my own food >use whats in the cupboard >use cash everywhere >turn off location on my cell phone >use vpns & proxies & more private browsers >wfh >cancel all subscriptions, torrent & plex/stream everything >not politically active whatsoever >no social media
I guess other than my gun club, credit card/bank account i have open, having a job and insurance its pretty hard to find me. Also have the same name as a famous person so that helps as even if i was online it would be difficult.
Have you?
Fed tracking
>offgrid
>posts online
Are you the homosexual that goes around spamming this in every thread?
truck and chainsaw needs fuel
>vanlife
>/offthegrid/
Where are you getting gas?
>off the grid
Expect discussion to go nowhere with most posters going on about nirvana fallacy bullshit.
I am, 12v solar and lpg gas. Life's good with $3 a week utility bills
Let me get this straight. You are off the grid, even though you are fully connected to the grid?
Would you like to try again?
How am I connected frickwit?
Would you like to try again?
Why are these so many spastic c**ts on this thread? Do you even know what off grid means??
I have solar. What's your excuse?
I'm the poster above with solar and lpg yet fricktards on here claim thats not off grid
No you just don't get it, man. I'm totally like, off the grid, man. Even though I'm tracked digitally no different than anyone else, I'm like, off the grid, because I don't have a like, utility bill haha.
Frick me it's moronic kek do you understand what the grid is?
No, man. You like, don't get it. I keep telling you I'm off grid even though I'm completely tracked like everyone else and you just like, don't understand.
not shure if trollposting or real by now?
Either way he's a fricking idiot
so thats what you zoomers confuse with on/off grid? online presence?
Being off/on the grid means a couple things, sir. Also. I'm 36. Not a zoomie.
1) Energy Grid. You are referencing power and gas. If you don't drive anywhere, you minimize the gas you use. If you have a home, there is a pretty good chance you have electricity unless its a remote cabin in the woods somewhere, which are usually not permanent residences. For 99% of people, they pay for electricity from a 3rd party and don't create their own. I have seen some homes with very unique and cool energy methods, self sufficient stuff to an extent too, but for the most part they all have a tie into the local electric company at some level. Would be very interested to talk to someone who isn't/wasn't. I have a real fireplace and it helps heat the home in winter, but ultimately I still have a furnace.
2) Digital/Internet Presence. In order to buy a home you usually need good credit, have an online checking account or bank account. A job and or proof that you can pay the mortgage, unless you inherited a home or something outright. As far as online presence. There are absolutely things you can do to stay away from 'the matrix' and big tech's information grabbing system, which is everywhere. They have a profile on you no matter what you do, so the key is to minimize it. When I switched from having social media and using chrome for everything to take steps to minimize my presence I saw huge changes in the algorithms.
3) Self sufficiency, this includes food. Its generally impossible to live completely off what you kill and grow, but you can definitely get >75% of it and that is a huge win both financially and probably from a health aspect too. I know when I rip green onions out of the ground they're fresh for 3 weeks where as if I don't eat them within 3 days from the grocery store they're starting to go bad.
its basic meaning is still off power/water/sewage grid and thats what 99% of people think off. you can try to redefine it all you want into some schizo leave no trace thing it wont change shit.
off grid is a measurable thing, its the state of a housing, where you simply walk around it inside and out
>yep, no wires and plumbing
>this house is off grid
you talk about a lifestyle or mindset.
and the most common reason to be off grid is simply you have a cabin in the middle of absolute nowhere where such things simply dont exist. nothing special about it people used to live like that not long ago.
I’m not getting into a semantics argument with you Mr Autist.
I’m just saying minimizing your grid footprint, whichever grid that may be, is in peoples best interest in my humble opinion. Not everyone can just pickup and leave society. God knows some days I want to, but I’m not rolling my kid out of school and dry aging all my meat and walking outside 30 yards to an outhouse to shit
for frick sake, its not about leaving society its about NOT HAVING POWER AND WATER TO YOUR FRICKING HOUSE!
you know you can do that while still having a car parked outside and a regular job...
go to /misc/ with your twisted schizo shit.
You're a fricking dipshit.
But you can do that and have social media and be easy to find, hence on the grid
I swear this board gets dumber by the year, the grid refers to connection to utilities not being removed from society as in the power grid ect
>easy to find
>hence on the grid
If you are referencing the electrical grid than yes. If you're referencing the internet grid or land than no.
Also what about pirates? All pirates are off the grid. They live in the seas and don't have a permanent residence or pay taxes.
Now you're getting it, bout fricking time
Internet grid? Land grid?
internet dont heat your house or give you hot and cold tap water. living in a house without these things require an effort from your side, deleting your phones browser history and putting it on flight mode doesnt.
see this post
>im not walking outside 30 yards to an outhouse to shit
the most comfy thing you can do is so unthinkable for someone so they choose something with less effort instead
>No, man. You like, don't get it. I keep telling you I'm off grid even though I'm completely powered and plumed like everyone else and you just like, don't understand. i just use a vpn and a fake facebook account man, totally off grid no one can find me.
You are putting words in my mouth. Read what I said again you incompetent fricking clown
I never said I'm impossible to find. For fricks sake it would be easy if you're in the government. I just said I like to minimize my presence online and stay away from the big tech data gathering technocratic data mining for both my mental health and out of spite to those Silicon Valley homosexuals.
And yes, obviously the internet doesn't heat your house or give you water you half-a-meatball. But without the internet life would be extremely difficult to anyone that isn't retired in 2022. You could definitely do it if you were retired or had no kids or no financial obligations, but haven't met a single person in that boat. Even homeless people owe back taxes
Point thar everyone is trying to get through to you is that offgrid doesn't have anything to do with the internet. It's not being hooked up to grid utilities do you see it yet?
I understand that; I'm explaining to you people that the internet and data mining they are engaging in is much more invasive and tyrannical. There is literally no point in being off the grid if you are on the internet. Which, by default, everybody in this thread is.
Unless of course you're just trying to be self sufficient with water, sewage, and electricity, which I have yet to see anyone do 100% except for 'secondary homes' like a cottage.
Ffs no one is saying hiding from whoever you're paranoid about, we are talking about not relying on the utility grid. If you want to talk about that shit start another thread on it
I'm not 'paranoid' about anything I just try to live my life like its 2006. I stopped progressing with almost all technology past that point as it became invasive.
I don't think I will start a new thread. You can if you'd like
only thing you are off at the moment are topic and meds
Can't have a mental illness and get my guns taken away if i never go to a shrink. Think ahead.
I don't want to shittalk about vanlifers but I couldn't choose it personnaly because whatever your way of describing the grid, you are in it :
>You depend on public facilities : roads, water where you stay
>they keep the internet
>you drive a big machine someone else made for you with components coming from everywhere...
>you depends are private services for gas, reparations,...
>you thus depends on the public service of money. You need regular money even.
Van life is not off grid, that's why women and couples do it. It's even very connected to a society, even more for "digital nomads" and all those who in fact build the coming world with a work in technology and media.
It's nice but very very normy, modern and very dependant.
I have all I need to decrease my needs to be off the grid if the grid fails. But why not suck on the teet while it's around?
I am off the grid. Here is a picture I took of my wife this morning. She was taking a nap after getting up before sunrise to help me with our veggie garden and feeding our chickens and quail
Google is great, isnt it?
Why the frick are you using the internet then homosexual
Love the minimalist vibe of this pic. Must have taken ages to hand-plane all those timbers. What kind of solar panels do you use to power your chandeliers?
This is fricking with my head. Why does she look so tiny, and the furniture so laughably big in comparison? Why does the chair in the corner look like a CG render, and why does the sofa not match the back wall? Why does her lighting slightly mismatch the rest of the room, and the sofa deformations not quite look right, but her hair and arm drape so naturally? Why the bizarre photoshop halo on that lamp, and no reflections or scattered light from it?
weird, i just see ass.
The woman is shopped in. Just reverse search the image.
>off the grid
>still comes into town every three days to buy gasoline and food
Poseur.
>wholly dependent on the grid for everything
>thinks he's in a position to talk down to others who are significantly less dependent on the grid than he is for being too dependent
No, you like, don't get it, man. I'm off the grid, man. Even though I pay bills and I'm financially tracked I'm like, totally off the grid and stuff, like, you know? Anyways dude, I'm more off the grid than you, man. Even though I'm actually connected to the grid and I'm lame as hell, man.
I have. I own a 10 acre homestead in Brazil. Got it a few weeks ago, currently building a cabin. I got all the licenses to keep the government from showing up to frick with me, I also have a few friends and family who know where I am. I use my neighbors electricity to charge my tools, I plan to have solar power soon.
Have you?
You got anything to protect that land, anon? Because the governments word is worthless.
In Brazil?
lol
Got every possible document, my biggest fear is the gvt claiming I'm breaking some underground law or something like that. As far as my laywer is concerned, I can't lose my land without getting compensation. By physical defenses I only have a fence, dogs and two pistols. I'm planning on having floodlights and cameras soon.
It's my country. I didn't feel like going elsewhere, considered Paraguay, but whatever.
Stay safe, anon.
why do land prices suck in canada so much, like nobody even lives there.
go north it gets cheap as frick
can't go offgrid without a wife
you'll basically go batshit insane
you could always find a husband - he could probably do more chores even
why haven't you?
no gf, i know if i do it by myself there's no going back
I'm not off the grid but I've minimized my grid presence
>hunt
>fish
>have a decent size garden
>cook my own food
>use whats in the cupboard
>use cash everywhere
>turn off location on my cell phone
>use vpns & proxies & more private browsers
>wfh
>cancel all subscriptions, torrent & plex/stream everything
>not politically active whatsoever
>no social media
I guess other than my gun club, credit card/bank account i have open, having a job and insurance its pretty hard to find me. Also have the same name as a famous person so that helps as even if i was online it would be difficult.
Sounds great Osama
Marxist israelites love to definition twist
>OP reposts a shitty prepper thread
>thread gets derailed by shitposting about what a grid is
kek2
>thread died after this
K E K
Frick your Black person garbage, OP.
I enjoy shitting indoors.