>October 2022
>I am forgotten
Why did this fizzle out? Back in March people were shilling it hard. Ukrainians don’t seem to like them over their own indigenous designs or American made, longer ranged, man portable atgms
>October 2022
>I am forgotten
Why did this fizzle out? Back in March people were shilling it hard. Ukrainians don’t seem to like them over their own indigenous designs or American made, longer ranged, man portable atgms
> Ukrainians don’t seem to like them over their own indigenous designs or American made, longer ranged, man portable atgms
Source: your krokodil addled mind
That’s just what the word is. Obviously we will find out more later when the war is over.
>That’s just what the word is.
The word from who? You just made it up, you lying little shit sniffer. Post source or frick off.
In then UAF
>you lying little shit sniffer
The kvetching of a religious nutjob who's faith is being questioned. It's ok to discuss the war even if it isn't russian gore or villages liberated by UAF. There a rumors everywhere and extremely few sources are actually worth a damn, let op ask if he wants to ask
The best atgm is the one you have
No it isn’t.
Russians just started hiding their tanks behind their artillery. really slowed them down
because back then they were fighting against Russian momentum and NLAWs were delivered fairly early. Now they have the momentum and so the opportunities for using basically any ATGM as needed are plentiful so NLAW isn't as urgently needed.
Thales contract for promotional shilling on reddit and twitter ran out.
Same will happen with Himars, once Lockheed Martin stops paying promotional agencies you'll never hear of it again.
I have worked in digital marketing and advertising for 12 years and noboby is going to pay good money to shill weapons to weaboos on PrepHole. PrepHole can barely get enough hugpillow ads to stay afloat as it is.
no you don't understand, every time someone talks positively about something on PrepHole - it has to be the work of some think-tank. everybody knows that nobody has positive opinions on anything.
How much can it actually cost to run PrepHole.
I’m just glad they ended up being outshined by American atgms. You know nigel is hurting because of it
NLAW is pretty much swedish
Because Russians stopped being stranded on roads or in cities when raspubreastsa ended. Urban and forested environments is what the NLAW is designed for, and it kicked ass when the Russians were actually capturing villages and putting themselves in its environment.
There was a webm last week of a UAF guy trying to take on a DPR T-72 at long range.
He got fricked up by canister rounds
Based DPR guys
It's weird, I don't really care about Russia, but those LPR and DPR hardcores are some bad motherfrickers.
Traitors are cringe and deserve the bullet
>Traitors
You mean Lenin's assets
>Found Ukrainian parliament
>Starve millions to death by confiscating crop and seed in the East
>Replace with Russians
>????
>Anschluss
>Overthrow the legitimate government in a treasonous coup that glows harder than Chernobyl
>Shriek treason when you find out that does not entitle you to the loyalty of the population
>but those LPR and DPR hardcores are some bad motherfrickers.
This propaganda narrative was driven by russians shortly after 2014 but as we have seen, they're not hardcore at all.
Where is it?
All atgms really
Because nlaws and javelin was what was needed back there
Now they need artillery and other pgm
Atgms are good to stop high value target and make a show. But they won't ever win a war
All that being said, it was trully remarkable how ukr managed to use those almost perfectly
These things are great for urban environments. Unfortunately, most of the tank engagements on my front are around 2-4km, so only Stugna can do something about those armored bastards
Thay also have TOW and javelin for those ranges. Just javelins if they are on patrol
Tow was never shipped to Kyiv govt, my guess is it's too effective and would disrupt the balance of war.
Javelin is a generation more advanced than TOW, if they shipped Javelin, the reason for not shipping TOW would not be that it is too effective.
I don't know about that.
The Vatniks are down to sending tanks from the 60's and 70's so why not send an ATGM that was designed specifically to defeat them?
You can also use ATGMs on other things...SP arty and rocket launchers and BMP's.
One hit from a TOW warhead will make them "pop top" quite nicely.
And it would clear out the warehouse space for NEW shit.
t/former M47 Dragon missile gunner
My battalion rarely uses javelins because of their bulkiness. They're good for defense or if you have proper transport, but not for rapid infantry assaults. I hate to carry even AT4 or especially a Matador in addition to my default loadout.
My battalion uses them all the time. The best ATGM we have for patrols. The new LWCLU is awesome. Extends the range to 4.5km too
Which front? Mine is Kherson
Please don’t put as at risk by revealing OPSEC. I’m certainly not going to do it. Don’t let it happen again moron
>reveals what anti armor assets his unit uses
>reveals where his unit is
This is either a LARP or just the dumbest ukranian in existence
Loose tweets sink fleets dumbass
You clearly don't understand the scale of this war if you think such info is worth something.
Moreover, there is so much more information about specific equipment, locations and tactics on the internet, it's impossible for russians to track, analyze, transmit to whoever needs it and act upon it. Especially on Vietnamese fish milking BBS
>it’s ok to share specific information online
>it couldn’t possibly hurt
No. Our unit has very strict policies against over sharing. Our combat videos are ran through one guy to be sanitized and cleared for release
Same for us, but I didn't ask or share anything specific or classified. Anyways, I got your message. Stay safe
My company hates matador
This is the only correct answer in the thread so far
OP is Arma/Warriortard
Phone posting, anti Brit, around 7:am EST, every day.
Are you paid at all OP?
What form of mental illness is this? Pretty sure warriortard is focusing on South Koreans right now. Check the catalog there’s a bunch of SK slaughtering happening
>What form of mental illness is this?
Every single thread he gets called out he says this, almost to the letter.
>Pretty sure warriortard is focusing on South Koreans right now. Check the catalog there’s a bunch of SK slaughtering happening
Ah yes because you know exact what he's doing at all times, because he's you.
>nigel false flags himself to own imaginary enemies on /k/
You really hate to see it
Meds. Now
>Ah yes because you know exact what he's doing at all times, because he's you.
No, I am him
Who is warriortard?
Some mentally ill bong who is obsessed with an old British IFV. It really isn’t that good but for some reason he’s hung up on it. Google the warrior ifv
This is warriortard
He made dozens of threads about the Warrior. Because my countrymen are kinda stupid they rise to the bait. Before that he was probably abrahams-guy, or one of the few dozen anons who larped as armatard.
It's not bait, you do not make endless threads for years on end about bongs without some sort of mental illness
I'm convinced he's a langley glowie to be honest. Posts same time every day.
Some mentally ill frick obsessed with South Korean equipment and exports. Keeps claiming x is about to be adopted by NATO/UK/Poland/Whomever. Doesn’t seem to understand that NATO doesn’t procure equipment.
There are tons of NLAWs in current photos from both the Kharkiv and Kherson offensives
ševčenkivka
That’s a Facebook photo. Not impressed
What really gets me is the umpteen VALs present in this pic
VDV was their best supplier of fancy small arms
Is that a VAL? I thought that the consensus was that it was not very good and a regular AK was preferable, so we don't see any captured ones being used
I think there are 4 or 5 VALs in that pic
it's a flex, meaning you got one in battle with "elite" russian units
Its either a trophy weapon, or these lads were part of the night operations in which case an integrally suppressed gun with barely any muzzle flash is pretty nice if you are up against NVG-less enemies who would basically be incapable of figuring out your location
>or these lads were part of the night operations in which case an integrally suppressed gun with barely any muzzle flash is pretty nice
Ukraine manufactures pretty good suppressors for about $100 a pop. Everyone and their mother got one, no need to go for a VAL just for that
I'd imagine the bottleneck would be less the suppressors themselves, and more weapons threaded for them.
NLAW turned out to be a more difficult system, poorly trained operators could not use it effectively. Also, its battery was not frost-resistant and quickly lost its charge in February.
Ukies had to invent a way to recharge them.
>Hard to use
Lol, Lmao
>Poorly trained operators cant point and shoot
Lol, Lmao
>Not frost resistant
Most batteries end to lose charge faster in the cold, that's why you have the ability to charge them.
>Invent a way to recharge.
Yeah, it's called a charger on the charge wires.
have a nice day already you hack.
>swedish cope
>Yeah, it's called a charger on the charge wires
It is disposable by design, moron.
https://incentre.zp.ua/energiya-shho-ryatuye-yak-v-zaporizhzhi-roblyat-poverbanky-ta-vdoskonalyuyut-akumulyatory-nlawiv/
ATGMs are much more of a defensive tool then offfensive because of the limited range compared to a tank cannon, especially dumb systems like the NLAW vs guided projectiles like the Javelin and Stugna. As the war has changed from Ukraine defending against Russian pushes to making their own, the weapon FotM will change.
NLAWs are guided moron
NLAWs don't have seeker warheads, you fricking moron. They have a bit of guidance in that they'll continue to move at the angular distance that you were in the few seconds before launch, but they have no ability to lock on nor are they remote controlled. They are dumb rockets with a bit of neat wizardry to help them hit moving targets, but calling them guided is massively overselling them.
The NLAW is a defensive weapon. Its has a short range but fact setup time. Its not as useful when you are assaulting an enemy in prepared positions which is what Ukraine is doing now.
Its a high-tech replacement for the M72 LAW
They are using it in the offensives, but they only have a limited number
800m is longer than most engagement ranges, and it more effective 400m range is also within that range
Only the Kherson area would it be considered less effective due to the nature of a lot of extremely large open fields with cut down trees.
>800m is longer than most engagement ranges
Most tank engagements are 2-4km
He’s an English second language bong. I think he meant most LAW type weapons engagement range
Wrong. In open fields and deserts sure.
Man the samegayging in this thread where he argues with himself is insane.
It’s comical.
>you’re warriortard
>responds to himself with script
>ha! I knew it was you! You say that everytime
His grandma must have fricked a yank during the war
>He's still trying to pretend arma/warriortard is a brit that loves the warrior, and not the obsessed moron that makes anti brit threads almost every day every single day around the same time
The levels of insanity you need to try control the narrative this hard is unfathomable. Did you read the soviets guide on misinformation and misdirection or something you cuckold
I’m just good at it. Look at the perception of the South Koreans on this board. I use the shills against their own narrative and it’s highly effective.
If you say so, I hardly see much of a bong shill presence like I see SK, so I still assume you got raped by a bong.
Now if /k/ were to ever adopt unique post IDs this level of social engineering wouldn’t be possible without proxies, something I know nothing about
Do you at least get paid or do you do this for free.
I have a good manufacturing job that allows me to post on /k/ the entire time I’m working so kind of
ngl for one second I thought this is another one of those blowjob memes
Case in point.
Something simple like this is highly effective. Then prompt them with something like this
The Russians haven't been driving tanks into cities much for a while. A weapon that isn't getting many kills is still effective if its presence prevents the enemy from doing something useful.
Infantry anti-tank weapons are defensive in nature. They exist to stop an opponent from just rolling over your forces with armored vehicles. The Russians stopped trying to take territory with armor because of the horrific vehicle losses they were taking and so weapons like the NLAW are now doing their job of holding off the Russian armor without ever needing to be fired. The Russian tanks have been stopped in their tracks by their mere existence.
It's not an ATGM moron.
It's a souped up AT4 with the ability to follow a predicted path. It was never intended to compete with ATGMs.
As for why it's not mentioned any more is because the vatniks are no longer capable of making armored assaults, they use their tanks piecemeal and at long distances as fire support, not to overrun and break through defensive lines.
They ran out of tanks to blow up
Aimhacks are for gays, Panzerfaust 4 life.
No more Russian tank rushes into cities
the NLAW has basically routed an entire russian front in the north. I imagine thousands of them have been fired by now, but its a critical weapon in this war.
NLAWs are awesome for defence and urban combat, but they're short ranged. The Russians don't tend to stick around in towns anymore, and they sure as shit aren't getting within range without getting rekt prior.
Seen many Russian tanks recently?
There are plenty. Most of them are just too far away to be filmed
the ukes just can't stop coomming from the new western weapons and tech they get each month. it's just sensory overload like those japanese hentais where they make the girl coom like a million times in 2 seconds
>javelins? sick!
>starlink? sick!
>triple 7's? sick!
>himars? sick!
>nasams? sick!
etc.
THE JAVELIN IS THE KEY
Squad level anti-tank weapons are by design, defensively in nature. Russia has been heading backwards to for the months so longer ranged weapons are being used instead.
>Ukrainians don’t seem to like them over their own indigenous designs or American made, longer ranged, man portable atgms
Bullshit, it literally become a cultural icon of the initial resistance here.
because they're frickhuge and russian armor can be penetrated by smaller, domestic launchers.
Very simple, they moved from close quarters city fighting where the NLAW was effective to long range fields where it was ineffective
You didn't see a lot of Ukranian artillery in the beginning either but it's practically all you see these days
It shines in short range engagements and ambushes, aka how the war was going in February/March.
Now that the Russians have stopped the idiotic column advances inside hostile territory it has less opportunity to shine. Artillery and long range ATGMs are king once again.
>Why did this fizzle out?
The tactical situation changed. When there was lots of short range defense operations it was very useful. Now as Ukies go on the offensive it is less useful. This isn't a flaw of the weapon as it was designed as a cheap disposable defensive weapon to help squddies not get smooshed by armour.
>Ukrainians don’t seem to like them
They fricking loved them earlier. They were the first western weapons they were getting in bulk, before most of the west had pulled it's finger out. There simplicity to use was great considering time constraints and lots of TDF units getting set up.
>over their own indigenous designs or American made, longer ranged, man portable atgms
Yes. As the tactical situation has changed.
Look the Jav is better than the NLAW on almost every metric. But the things NLAW is better at can be extremely important. Them being: It's much lighter, it's much cheaper (£20k a pop), you can be trained how to use it in an hour and it can be used in seconds (compared to minutes for the Jav).
Sometimes you just need something pretty good immediately which anyone can use, rather than something in a few minutes that only some can use.
This.
F35 is better than a cheap drone with a grenade strapped to the bottom, but they can still ruin Ivans happy time, and a fraction of the cost.
moron, stop for a second and think.