oh wow EU so progressive applause everyone EU invented storing shit in a hole in the ground
How does a root cellar work, though? How is it any different than just leaving carrots and potatoes laying around the basement?
yea somebody else mentioned typically the basement is part of your conditioned space and is kept at 70F or whatever. A root cellar is supposed to be 50-55F which is the natural temperature deeper in the earth almost everywhere that isn't frozen most of the time.
https://i.imgur.com/wITfkmc.jpg
That stuff is for plebs.
Curing meats is the Patricians choice.
this cured meats are the best but you could age cheeses down there too
You've gotta be some kind of delusional to think anybody's gonna wanna crawl into that thing regularly. And then all it would take is one rat to completely ruin all of your food and the space as well. If you're talking about soil being an important part of the structure, rats are going to burrow into the thing with zero issue. So tell me, what defense mechanism does a root cellar have against rats and such?
you line it with something durable. Stone with limewash is probably a nice option. Stone arched ceiling too so you know it'll last. ounds like OP used solid timbers.. rats aren't gnawing through solid timbers. Plus you can keep food further stored inside containers inside the cellar.
Rats are gnawing through just about anything they want, anon. Very little will stop rats. You are correct that some materials will dissuade them, but only for a time. You need a series of specific materials working together with mindful construction and planning to really keep rats out. What you are describing to me sounds more like just a modern storage chamber dug into the earth to take advantage of the more consistent temperatures and I wouldn't really consider that a root cellar. As said before, it sounds like a root cellar is a specific type of construction that utilizes the properties of earth and soil to store food. If you're just putting a concrete shed into the earth and putting all your food in sealed containers, that's just a basement pantry, an underground storage facility or a concrete dug-out.
The deal is that if you're storing food in an area on the property that is not frequented by humans or normally "lived in", it will fall into disarray and other creatures will move in. You're going to need to build it like a bunker with proven pest-proofing methods. Maybe you'll get away with it for a few years, but once the pests find out about it, it's just slapping band-aids on band-aids until you rebuild it.
alright what the frick anons.
i keep my potatoes in a dark cupboard in my kitcehn, it is pretty cold.
they grows roots and turn to soft shit within a month.
also this anon speaks truth rats will get through anything, i have seen them chew through asphalt.
>they grows roots and turn to soft shit within a month.
this is because produce you buy at the store has been in transport or storage for most of its life already
grocery store produce is meant to be ripe at the exact moment you purchase it, no more and no less
I grow my own potatoes and they last for months
garlic i harvested in july is still white and fresh
get gardenpilled
i'm doing the same for some potatoes that we get from rural relatives
my parents just left them in the sack in the dark room but i moved them into the cabinet to lay them flat
did i do the right thing
You've gotta be some kind of delusional to think anybody's gonna wanna crawl into that thing regularly. And then all it would take is one rat to completely ruin all of your food and the space as well. If you're talking about soil being an important part of the structure, rats are going to burrow into the thing with zero issue. So tell me, what defense mechanism does a root cellar have against rats and such?
Just make a concrete tub heavy and strong enough against the water pressure and frost heave and water proof it. Just because most basements are leaky as a sieve doesn't mean they have to be.
I just put my vegetables in a really cool shed me and my father made. One half is for the oil tank, another for sticks and then there is a second floor for storage. It is all very ventilated and it keeps my potatoes fresh over the winter. But if you don't want to make a shed then you can just do it the old fashioned way by covering them in rushes and then soil, making a mound. That's how they did it years ago
How does a root cellar work, though? How is it any different than just leaving carrots and potatoes laying around the basement?
a basement is basically a root cellar, as long it's not a heated basement
The soil has an ecosystem of fungi and bacteria preventing bad stuff reaching your produce. It's like an immune system.
but anon ... the produce goes moldy and gets bacterial grows.
That stuff is for plebs.
Curing meats is the Patricians choice.
butchering animals is messy and horrible. I'll stick to root vegetables.
>I eat plants not animals
Enjoy your malnutrition.
Hey, dude, you and your husband can do whatever makes you happy
Enjoy suffocating when it collapses in on you, I guess
it would be very painful
For you
lmao you don't live in a root cellar
oh wow EU so progressive applause everyone EU invented storing shit in a hole in the ground
yea somebody else mentioned typically the basement is part of your conditioned space and is kept at 70F or whatever. A root cellar is supposed to be 50-55F which is the natural temperature deeper in the earth almost everywhere that isn't frozen most of the time.
this cured meats are the best but you could age cheeses down there too
you line it with something durable. Stone with limewash is probably a nice option. Stone arched ceiling too so you know it'll last. ounds like OP used solid timbers.. rats aren't gnawing through solid timbers. Plus you can keep food further stored inside containers inside the cellar.
Rats are gnawing through just about anything they want, anon. Very little will stop rats. You are correct that some materials will dissuade them, but only for a time. You need a series of specific materials working together with mindful construction and planning to really keep rats out. What you are describing to me sounds more like just a modern storage chamber dug into the earth to take advantage of the more consistent temperatures and I wouldn't really consider that a root cellar. As said before, it sounds like a root cellar is a specific type of construction that utilizes the properties of earth and soil to store food. If you're just putting a concrete shed into the earth and putting all your food in sealed containers, that's just a basement pantry, an underground storage facility or a concrete dug-out.
The deal is that if you're storing food in an area on the property that is not frequented by humans or normally "lived in", it will fall into disarray and other creatures will move in. You're going to need to build it like a bunker with proven pest-proofing methods. Maybe you'll get away with it for a few years, but once the pests find out about it, it's just slapping band-aids on band-aids until you rebuild it.
>Very little will stop rats
>Laughs in glass mason jar
They're still gonna shit and piss all over it. But yes, mason jars are pretty good all around.
alright what the frick anons.
i keep my potatoes in a dark cupboard in my kitcehn, it is pretty cold.
they grows roots and turn to soft shit within a month.
also this anon speaks truth rats will get through anything, i have seen them chew through asphalt.
You have to can everything and it will last. Get some mason jars and a pressure cooker.
why always mason not other makes like kilner or la parfait?
>they grows roots and turn to soft shit within a month.
this is because produce you buy at the store has been in transport or storage for most of its life already
grocery store produce is meant to be ripe at the exact moment you purchase it, no more and no less
I grow my own potatoes and they last for months
garlic i harvested in july is still white and fresh
get gardenpilled
i'm doing the same for some potatoes that we get from rural relatives
my parents just left them in the sack in the dark room but i moved them into the cabinet to lay them flat
did i do the right thing
wow all of those words
I would need some dynamite or a really big excavator with an even bigger jackhammer. I will keep using my freezer
This had been used in EU for 300 years
You've gotta be some kind of delusional to think anybody's gonna wanna crawl into that thing regularly. And then all it would take is one rat to completely ruin all of your food and the space as well. If you're talking about soil being an important part of the structure, rats are going to burrow into the thing with zero issue. So tell me, what defense mechanism does a root cellar have against rats and such?
Frens, how do i into root cellar if I'm a foot above the water table? Should I bury picrel and cap it with concrete?
picrel
Just make a concrete tub heavy and strong enough against the water pressure and frost heave and water proof it. Just because most basements are leaky as a sieve doesn't mean they have to be.
>What are thermal expansion coefficient differentials
Dig into the water, store food underwater in glass containers. Ez airtight cold storage.
I just put my vegetables in a really cool shed me and my father made. One half is for the oil tank, another for sticks and then there is a second floor for storage. It is all very ventilated and it keeps my potatoes fresh over the winter. But if you don't want to make a shed then you can just do it the old fashioned way by covering them in rushes and then soil, making a mound. That's how they did it years ago
If shtf youll have plenty of time to dig a root cellar