easy there partner, they need to liberate the Donbass and Crimea. It's not gonna happen overnight.
But if it makes you feel better, be ready for August (expected delivery of the upgraded M1A1s)
Not how it works exactly. First they're getting M1A1 SA/FEPs with the FMS export armor package. Otherwise they're M1A1s. Nothing monkey model about them.
Later down the line they will get M1A2 SEPv3s, new builds, which also come with a less secretive armor package but are otherwise the same.
Leopard 1s are monkey models
Challengers without the Chobam armour are monkey models
PT91s are monkey models
It's monkey models all the way down, apart from a handful of Leo2s
I wouldnt call the 120mm a monkey model. If it was the og M1 Abrams that is still a stretch. The m1 is still a big leap from the mid cold war era tanks. The m1A1 has improved gun and armor.
>It's not gonna happen overnight
Implying that it's going to happen at all. Donbass and Crimea won't be like Kharkiv and Kherson. They don't have a river to save their stalled offensive like in Kherson and the defensive lines aren't severely under-manned like in Kharkiv
Yeah now the defensive lines are manned with state-of-the-art T-55 obr.2023s and mobiks, as opposed to the weak and incompetent 1st Guard’s Tank Army. Even worse for Hoholkraine, they’ve run low on T-64s and are resorting to using inferior HATO Leopards and Bradleys
>state-of-the-art T-55 obr.2023s and mobiks
Tank vs tanks comparisons are useless. The T-55s aren't bad because they can't destroy a Leopard 2, they are bad because they lack the electronics and optic components that could make them useful and give them a chance of survival in a battlefield infested with ATGMs.
>1st Guard’s Tank Army
There were nowhere near enough of them to defend a front the size of Kharkiv. That frontline had huge gaps which where under-manned. It was the lack of manpower to properly defend Kharkiv which finally pushed Russia to make their first wave of mobilization
>inferior HATO Leopards and Bradleys
The number of modern tanks they will be getting is very small. They will have to go through fortified lines, minefields, ATGMs. Such a low number of modern tanks won't make a big difference beyond just increasing the number of tanks they can use. They would need a lot more of them to have a clear armor superiority. The Bradleys were sent in more substantial numbers and they will probably will get more of them not too far off in the future, but it's still not enough to cover their lack of IFVs/APCs. Why do you think they are moving around using civilians cars under the threat of artillery and ATGMs?
Goodbye little zigger. Glavset is finished soon and so are you. Goodbye, goodbye, you detestable sick joke. The last thing the red army will hear is the sound of German army main battle tank engines purring as they grease their tracks with offal squeezed from Russian conscripts. Then silence. Totalziggerdeath.
O little Zigger, Ukraine is about to smash the Russian nations military apart publicly and kill your friends and relatives and there is nothing you can do about it. The whole world will laugh at you and Russia little zigger.
There will be no counter offensive as you expect until Ukraine has enough MBTs artillery and APCs/IFVs to deliver a comprehensive one shot knockout defeat of the entire Russian military including seizing all of its equipment and killing or taking prisoner its entire manpower. That will be this year, Russia has already lost. Every day that passes Russia just looses harder every aspect of the force balance swings further to Ukraine daily. Russia morale, discipline, logistics, equipment, trained crews, ammunition and vehicles dwindle further daily. Operation totalziggerdeath must be exactly that. A final Russian defeat so comprehensive and total that the Russian population are faced with the indisputable, uncensorable and total defeat of their military as evidence that their leader Putin and his cohorts are worthless and incapable liars. Pic related are the real numbers. That was the greatest psyop of all. Truth.
Victory parade this year will be a curious sight. No doubt Russia will want to show themselves still having an army, pulling all they can together to display a similar parade as always. Meanwhile everyone acutely knows it is a facade, yet no one in Russia, except MrDoomerGirkin, will dare to say it.
easy there partner, they need to liberate the Donbass and Crimea. It's not gonna happen overnight.
But if it makes you feel better, be ready for August (expected delivery of the upgraded M1A1s)
>upgraded M1A1s
I thought they were getting monkey models without depleted uranium armor?
Not how it works exactly. First they're getting M1A1 SA/FEPs with the FMS export armor package. Otherwise they're M1A1s. Nothing monkey model about them.
Later down the line they will get M1A2 SEPv3s, new builds, which also come with a less secretive armor package but are otherwise the same.
>m1a1s
So, monkey models. The T72m1 is better than a T72a but its still a monkey model
Leopard 1s are monkey models
Challengers without the Chobam armour are monkey models
PT91s are monkey models
It's monkey models all the way down, apart from a handful of Leo2s
I wouldnt call the 120mm a monkey model. If it was the og M1 Abrams that is still a stretch. The m1 is still a big leap from the mid cold war era tanks. The m1A1 has improved gun and armor.
>It's not gonna happen overnight
Implying that it's going to happen at all. Donbass and Crimea won't be like Kharkiv and Kherson. They don't have a river to save their stalled offensive like in Kherson and the defensive lines aren't severely under-manned like in Kharkiv
Yeah now the defensive lines are manned with state-of-the-art T-55 obr.2023s and mobiks, as opposed to the weak and incompetent 1st Guard’s Tank Army. Even worse for Hoholkraine, they’ve run low on T-64s and are resorting to using inferior HATO Leopards and Bradleys
>state-of-the-art T-55 obr.2023s and mobiks
Tank vs tanks comparisons are useless. The T-55s aren't bad because they can't destroy a Leopard 2, they are bad because they lack the electronics and optic components that could make them useful and give them a chance of survival in a battlefield infested with ATGMs.
>1st Guard’s Tank Army
There were nowhere near enough of them to defend a front the size of Kharkiv. That frontline had huge gaps which where under-manned. It was the lack of manpower to properly defend Kharkiv which finally pushed Russia to make their first wave of mobilization
>inferior HATO Leopards and Bradleys
The number of modern tanks they will be getting is very small. They will have to go through fortified lines, minefields, ATGMs. Such a low number of modern tanks won't make a big difference beyond just increasing the number of tanks they can use. They would need a lot more of them to have a clear armor superiority. The Bradleys were sent in more substantial numbers and they will probably will get more of them not too far off in the future, but it's still not enough to cover their lack of IFVs/APCs. Why do you think they are moving around using civilians cars under the threat of artillery and ATGMs?
Goodbye little zigger. Glavset is finished soon and so are you. Goodbye, goodbye, you detestable sick joke. The last thing the red army will hear is the sound of German army main battle tank engines purring as they grease their tracks with offal squeezed from Russian conscripts. Then silence. Totalziggerdeath.
O little Zigger, Ukraine is about to smash the Russian nations military apart publicly and kill your friends and relatives and there is nothing you can do about it. The whole world will laugh at you and Russia little zigger.
Don’t care since my bradleys are there.
Juans*
Dont Bradley's still have problems?
There isn’t an armored vehicle on this planet that doesn’t have its share of problems anon.
Will it have the desert camo though?
There will be no counter offensive as you expect until Ukraine has enough MBTs artillery and APCs/IFVs to deliver a comprehensive one shot knockout defeat of the entire Russian military including seizing all of its equipment and killing or taking prisoner its entire manpower. That will be this year, Russia has already lost. Every day that passes Russia just looses harder every aspect of the force balance swings further to Ukraine daily. Russia morale, discipline, logistics, equipment, trained crews, ammunition and vehicles dwindle further daily. Operation totalziggerdeath must be exactly that. A final Russian defeat so comprehensive and total that the Russian population are faced with the indisputable, uncensorable and total defeat of their military as evidence that their leader Putin and his cohorts are worthless and incapable liars. Pic related are the real numbers. That was the greatest psyop of all. Truth.
how many tanks does Ukraine need to make a differences?
300
At least an armored fists worth, 15-17 tanks should do
that's a lot of tanks if you only have a few RPG-7s
'Bout three fiddy
Victory parade this year will be a curious sight. No doubt Russia will want to show themselves still having an army, pulling all they can together to display a similar parade as always. Meanwhile everyone acutely knows it is a facade, yet no one in Russia, except MrDoomerGirkin, will dare to say it.