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Because it is completely mogged by the western half of the country
white mountains and adirondaks are pretty neat
shut it tickboy
ah fuck, why do ticks exist
okay where's the mountain? 50 miles behind that hill in the foreground?
You are correct that the colorado rockies are pretty much high altitude hills. That doesn't mean east coast mountains aren't still just low altitude hills.
Good thing the Rockies aren't only in Colorado, although least coast retards seem to think that.
Could you make that pic a bit smaller?
Kek. Noticed that after I posted and was too lazy to find another one
We know but there's no hot girls in the other states so we don't bother with them.
Not like they'd give you the time of day anyway
Yes the good US rockies are in Wyoming and Montana. The best rockies are in Canada.
>The best rockies are in Canada
Montanafag here but I have to agree. Love skiing in BC and PrepHoleing there generally
Now do Baker, Ranier, Olympus, Angeles, Blue, Eddy, Thompson, Sawtooth, Hilton, Glacier Peak
Why would you want more love? It's already the most populated part of the country; what, you want more neighbors? Want higher prices? More overcrowding on trails? More permits?
You Appafags really don't get the game. I never post about my region anywhere anymore because I understand this thing we call America is strictly zero-sum going forward. If outsiders don't think your region is full of methheads, minorities, and crime, you're failing. You've lost control of the narrative, and soon you will have your state stolen out from under your feet.
Anyway, the Apps are gorgeous and I tell everyone about them any chance I get, especially those fleeing from the West.
This precisely. Anytime I tell someone that I'm going back to my home state when I retire I get the same responses about it being beautiful country but full of crackheads and cartel. Retards don't realize that the urban poison doesn't apply to the land I'm buying near a town with a max population of 3k. Meanwhile land in fucking Idaho of all places is 30k+ /acre.
I thought new England was more relaxed with permits and building ordinances
We're on PrepHole dude. I'm talking about permits for public land use.
The Northeast has so much more to offer than just Appalachians. The Atlantic is the superior ocean, the swamps and forests of the northeast are beautiful and unique, the most deadly, per capita, war in the history of America was fought in these forests and many think the crimes and suffering waged by the parties involved are why New England wilderness still feels haunted and ominous. plus we have witches.
New England is the real America.
>tfw no forest nymph wicca gf
You don't want a wiccan girl. They're smelly.
that's kinda cool. i'm looking for a new daddoo idea
Wheneve I drive up and down I-79 in West Virginia I always turn off the radio and soak up the beauty of the appalachian hills. I Especially enjoy doing this at sunrise and sunset. I also think it is a lesson on humility. These green hills were once part of a primordial mountain range. A set of stoic peaks to rival the Himalayas, the Rockies, the Andes, and the Alps. Yet nothing but wind rain and the never stopping march of time has reduced them to nothing more than overgrown anthills. Truly, we are nothing to mother nature, the eldest of Gods daughters.
Bro those hills only exist because we didn't find anything particularly useful in them that made us want to scoop them out of the landscape. Even if global warming extincts the human species we've left scars on the planet that'll outlast us, extracted so many hydrocarbons out of the earth that any subsequent intelligent species will NEVER have the chance to develop past medieval technology, and the styrofoam cup I bought at the gas station yesterday will sit around for several million years to come where ever it gets buried at.
On the timescale of millions of years Mother Nature /might/ have us, but on a timescale of a few human lifetimes we have and will continue to make her our bitch. Your belittling of the indomitable human spirit brings you and your ancestors nothing but shame.
I'm not belittling us. I'm saying it is sobering how nothing we make will last longer than us. Even if we made every hydrocarbon into plastic, it would all still disappear long before the sun burns out. Every stone monument will turn to sand. Sometimes we end up thinking ourselves gods because we have been given stewardship of creation, but we must also temper out indomitable spirit with a certain respect for the raw power and beaty of nature, or our hubris will bring us undo suffering.
>It is sobering how nothing we make will last longer than us
>It would all still disappear long before the sun burns out
This is just defeatist nonsense, and nobody gave us stewardship of creation we seized it all on our own. Sure anything we make today would be gone by the time the sun burns out, which is an utterly retarded metric to judge it by, but that's fairly well irrelevant because the things our descendants of 100-million years plus make will be in fine and functioning condition when that happens. A single man's works can be brought to dust, but the works of mankind as a whole have not yet encountered an obstacle we couldn't overcome.
>nobody gave us stewardship of creation
Even if somebody did, he's dead now because we killed him.
You say we can kill God? This does not strike you as arrogant?
Why wouldn't we be able to? We invented him in the first place. Just another marvel of the human spirit!
I cannot tell if that exclamation point is sarcastic or not. If it is not tell me, why do you thik that God is a creation of man?
Well if he didn't exist it would've been necessary to invent him, so it's way more likely that we just invented him. There's a whole bunch of supporting evidence for it to, such as religion being an excellent tool for solidifying power for the priestly cast and it allowing large groups of otherwise disparate (and probably antagonistic) people to live together in communities. Those communities (regardless of whether their deities' blessings are real) can then out compete smaller groups. They're larger in the first place, with more resources, and their soldiers (being assured of boons after death) fight more bravely than bumblefucks who want to preserve their lives like rational people.
I dunno man, how about you tell me why you think a sky man made it all, and is worthy of worship despite all the subjective evil in the world? Assuming you're talking about Yahweh, anyway.
Every relationship between two things seems causal to me therefore everything has a cause. As far as I can tell their must have been some first cause for all things in the universe. When religion is used as a tool it is because of we corrupt it. The same way we are responsible for most of our own problems most evil in this world is the result of man's actions.
Why did God make us? well there are many interpretations and answers for that question. However, I have to ask you why do we make anything? Why build cities and civilizations, why do we engineer new technologies and study the sciences and push the limit of our understanding of nature? Why does every animal have a drive to reproduce even though it is nothing more than a complex series of points in time and space? Why does life persist despite the seeming inevitability of death and decay?
sorry if my thoughts in this post are a little out of order.
Yeah you're pretty incoherent my man.
First cause for all things in the universe doesn't translate to 'there is a deity that gives a shit about you' in the slightest. Saying that religion used as a tool is a corruption is an assumption on your part, who says it wasn't divine will that made it go that way? Evil being caused by man doesn't absolve an all-knowing all-powerful deity of guilt. If I set up a bear trap along a crowded hiking trail and then it snaps off some kid's leg does the kid get blamed?
I never asked why god made us, because he didn't. We make stuff to improve our (or our childrens') lot in life. That's the same reason why we build cities, civilizations, and study technology and science. Animals have the drive to reproduce because animals that lacked that drive died out. Life isn't separate from death and decay, so your question here is pointless. Death and decay is as much a part of the process of life as the parts where a critter or plant are moving, you're revealing tremendous bias here in thinking of them as opposites.
>First cause for all things in the universe doesn't translate to 'there is a deity that gives a shit about you'
I was not talking about any god in specific or his relationship with us. I was simply stating the idea that a universe where every relationship is causal implies a first cause, a first doer that is above everything. Again I have not said anything about what form this entity takes or how he works. I have simply given you one of the reasons I have to believe it exists.
>Evil being caused by man doesn't absolve an all-knowing all-powerful deity of guilt
You are right. It is not absolved of guilt because it was never guilty in the first place. After all, if it is all powerful deity surely it must be able to do whatever it wants. It has the same dominion over us as we have over ants. If we fill an ant nest with silver because it looks cool, then it is perfectly just for us to do so because we are so much more advanced than they are. Id an all powerful deity decides to destroy us because it thinks it would look cool than that is perfectly reasonable.
>I never asked why god made us, because he didn't.
Again I'm asking you why you think this. In my previous argument I use the idea of a prime mover. If the Prime mover is the cause of the universe than the prime mover is somewhat responsible for our being here regardless of what other causes for our existence there are.
>Animals have the drive to reproduce because animals that lacked that drive died out
And why does it matter if they die out? What purpose does their existence serve in the broader scheme of things?
1st Point) Well okay then, if you're not arguing for a personal god from that point then we're in agreement.
2nd Point) Nah man, it's not just for us to pour silver into an ant nest. Not any more just than it is for me to adopt a dog or something then torture it just because I can. If you ever have a kid then you'll have certain obligations to that kid even though you're way more advanced than it too. Justice doesn't care about the relative strengths of the parties involved. That's justice, but as for whether it's reasonable to toy with something lesser than you simply because you want to...well I think the general consensus (i.e. don't torture your pets or children just because you can) is that you shouldn't, but if you want me to look up some philosophers arguing that point more convincingly I can do so.
3rd Point) Well okay, sure. The existence of the universe certainly contributed to homo sapiens coming into existence.
4th Point) It doesn't particularly matter that they died out. I don't think they served a particular purpose in the broader scheme of things, because I don't think there's any substantial evidence for there being a 'broader scheme of things'. They existed, now they're petrified bones buried in the earth. Why are you searching for a purpose in that?
> Death and decay is as much a part of the process of life as the parts where a critter or plant are moving, you're revealing tremendous bias here in thinking of them as opposites. They are opposites. Them being opposites is the reason you have to have one to have the other. Also, I want to know about this great bias I have.
Your bias is towards macro-organisms. A decaying corpse is just as much home to life as you are, it's just composed of fungi and bacteria and decomposers of all sorts. There's no opposites here, the chemistry just goes from powering one thing to powering another. Assigning the qualities of "opposites" to any natural phenomena (except maybe matter/antimatter and a few other edge cases) is something people do, not anything intrinsic to what actually exists.
Eh, theological debate isn’t really a 4chan thing is it? Nazis all believe in God.
Here’s an PrepHole pic to satisfy you tho.
>iToddler sideways pic
Eh, sorry. I don't care enough about PrepHole to figure out how to put it right way up.
This poor moron takes 480p pictures and bases his entire personality around coping with that
WAOW! so this is the power of le superior iPhone camera technology?
jeetdroidsisters... how can we compete with this???
Damn man, you sure are up in arms about a picture on the internet.
>look i walked 5 minutes from the busiest scenic highway in the USA
nice cope, tourist
Actually that was the view from Lobo Canyon on Santa Rosa Island of Channel Islands NP. Gotta take a 2.5hr ferry ride to get there.
That's not Big Sur you dolt.
I have climbed in Colorado, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Washington, Alaska and Nepal, but the first mountain I ever climbed was Katahdin. Hope to make it back there one day.
Do northeastlets really wear 12-point crampons on their "climbs" of mt monadnock?
Those are probably Massholes,so,yeah.
To be fair to the Northeast, those hills do form some nice ice climbing routes in the winter because of the weather.
Looks like a butthole to me
I admit it's nice having the bathrooms, a snack shop, and regular bus service most Eastcoast "mountains" have at the top when I have a day hike with my less athletic east coast friends, but I'd never want to do in by myself.
There's a trail that runs near by my house. I started upon a familiar path northward, at one point passing under power lines. There was what used to be a road between two low moss-covered stone walls running parallel through the thick wood. For a short while, at intervals along one of the walls were some steel posts bearing the last remnants of barbed wire, erected in the era when the land was used for grazing pasture and farmland. Having just crossed a bridge, on a whim I chose one of these rusty posts to veer off north-east following the brook. A couple hundred yards or so away, I stumbled upon an open campsite where someone had built a keyhole-shaped firepit ringed with boulders, a sizable bench with two 8-foot sections meeting at a right angle, surrounded on three sides by the brook, and garbage strewn nearby indicating that somebody had fried something large and drank a lot of beer. There, I stopped and had lunch, which consisted of cheddar cheese and chicken breast on bread, and some filtered water from my canteen. I then took the only noticeable trail out of the campsite, which was a long, winding trail eventually intersecting with the nearby route highway. This spat me out at a familiar point along the main trail following the stone walls. Small blue signs nailed to a tree every few dozen yards on one side indicated the boundary of a state forest. I kept to the main trail as it became narrow, rocky, and rooty. I crossed a small stone slab bridge that could easily be mistaken for part of the landscape. Eventually, the trail hooked left and I came to an opening in the wall leading onward along the northern boundary of the tiny state forest I had just rounded. Shortly after, the trail opened upon a bend in a paved road with a large house right on the corner. I decided to continue up the trail, having seen a small pond near this road on the map, but the sun went down, it was getting cold, and I kind of had to take a shit, but didn't want to shit in the dark.
I had brought my trowel and tp, but there also these little brown spiders in the area that just chill on the forest floor and wait for prey at night, so I didn't feel like putting my ass or balls close to the ground at this time.
Anyway, I swap out my baseball cap for my beanie and headlamp set to low, and return back the way I came. After I pass the paved road and the house, upon the trail between the two stone walls, I hear a dog barking not so very far away. Then a pack of coyotes howling. The air is getting colder. I unroll the sleeves of my flannel shirt, and I hear the chaotic yelping of the pack again. Closer this time? I quicken my pace, thankful that I have my hiking staff to keep balance along the dark uneven path as well as my 9mm. I cross over the low stone bridge again, relieved that there is now at least something of a natural barrier between me and the coyotes.
I continue along the trail until two bright green orbs pierce through the dim reflection of the dense forest in front of me, just off the trail, and I freeze. Switching my headlamp to high and squinting through the hazy thicket, I see a small deer, also petrified in confusion. I go along my way, slowly at first, then hastening again, feeling the cold creeping through my thin flannel and undershirt. I arrive again at the point in the wall where I turned northeast and discovered the campsite, with the wooden bridge just up ahead. I slip on some wet leaves on the other side of the bridge, but recover quickly. I hurry along the trail, again on a familiar route and wanting to get home. Now the cold is too uncomfortable and I take my hoodie off my backpack and wear it, which really helps both physically and psychologically when it's pitch black in the damp woods. Roughly 45 minutes later, I'm at the point in the trail where I started and back home. It was a lot of fun. Next time I'll reach that little pond and maybe bring my fishing pole.
Northeast if you like nature (green corridor with heavy canopy cover, lots of plant life and animals hiding in it)
Northwest if you like views (rockier, higher vistas with longer views)
This is why west is so filled with women and gays. They care more about taking pictures than being outside.
It's getting plenty from me
where was that taken?
I think New England is the comfiest part of the country. Four seasons, old population, fun wildlife (no fucking Grizzlies), lots of lakes and forests, no real natural disasters besides occasional flooding/mid issues in certain forests. That being said I crap on it like mad so normies and LGBTQ retards will stay away and shit up places like Boulder, CO instead.
At least Boulder, CO has the most active population
North east of what?
In the only country that matters
Northeast of Ohio, West Virginia and Maryland
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