Northrop Manta Ray

Northrop Grummans Manta Ray has conducted initial trials at sea.

https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-05-01

https://x.com/darpa/status/1785671213160825071?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Manta Ray prototype uncrewed underwater vehicle (UUV) built by performer Northrop Grumman completed full-scale, in-water testing off the coast of Southern California in February and March 2024. Testing demonstrated at-sea hydrodynamic performance, including submerged operations using all the vehicle’s modes of propulsion and steering: buoyancy, propellers, and control surfaces.

    “Our successful, full-scale Manta Ray testing validates the vehicle’s readiness to advance toward real-world operations after being rapidly assembled in the field from modular subsections,” said Dr. Kyle Woerner, DARPA program manager for Manta Ray. “The combination of cross-country modular transportation, in-field assembly, and subsequent deployment demonstrates a first-of-kind capability for an extra-large UUV.”

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An unmanned metal gear?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/cWMneRM.jpeg

      Northrop Grummans Manta Ray has conducted initial trials at sea.

      https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-05-01

      https://x.com/darpa/status/1785671213160825071?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

      Surprise, nobody in this thread, picked up on the fact that this was put together in the field from subsections. This is apparently meant to be deployed by soldiers, sitting at the edge of the water…, for what reason I cannot imagine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Send it down the coast to scout.
        Send it out to see if there's anything lurking over there in that secluded cove/thick reed cover on the other bank.
        Join in the search for that enemy submarine that is suspected in this area.
        Launch a torpedo from the beach against that enemy submarine that was just found.
        Depending on what you can put in the payload bay, there's lots of options.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most of that you could do through the air with drones.
          This allows a stealth approach through water. Approaching ships unaware (reconnaissance?) or perhaps seeking submarines. The long loiter time would benefit the latter. It’s something you can’t do from air… loiter on sea floor or surface.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think it's more part of the military's goal of palletizing the navy to allow for prompt deployment, quicker to air drop one of these in the pacific instead of waiting a week~ for a real sub to show up, depends on armament though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >palletizing the navy to allow for prompt deployment, quicker to air drop one of these in the pacific
            Could mesh well with the USMC's pivot to island campaigning. You could have a marine outpost somewhere with a bunch of pallets, using these to patrol around their island or sending them on to other targets when ordered.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Join in the search for that enemy submarine that is suspected in this area
          They certainly make for a much more dangerous kind of sonar buoy, mobile and closing in on you and able to launch if it makes a positive hit.
          And if they don't find anything at first, they can be summoned to the combat zone when something is found or told to return to the flotilla.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is apparently meant to be deployed by soldiers, sitting at the edge of the water
        Probably sailors on a destroyer or possibly even a sub. Maybe you can make a Virginia payload module that could carry the components?

        I think it's mostly meant so that you can deliver them to theatre on pallets, keeping the logistical footprint equivalent to any other armament currently in use.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > pallets
          Ofc. It’s always about pallets.
          I guess alternative is its monolithic like a plane and requires special bays etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ease of and secrecy of deployment

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's a big ray

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

      UUUU

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Northrop still exist?

    I thought they already went to shit after fricking up both F-20 and F-18L project

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you moronic?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you fricking moronic
      >Northrop makes half the avionics in the F-35, F-16, F-22
      >makes UAVs
      >currently making the B-21
      >new nuclear missile
      >ammunition for countless weapon systems
      >not to mention the massive space sector that makes multibillion dollar satellites

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who are you trying to impress?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boeing go to bed you need your energy for the court case

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wings are too big. Guessing they designed it for looks and not functionality. Looks cool though.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently this thing is able to hibernate on the sea floor for long periods of time

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's it supposed to do?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Autonomous underwater missions

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good question. It's extra large, so maybe surveillance? Slap a stealth coating on it and then have it ghost around chokepoints and tail enemy subs? Depending on what a "payload bay" is, maybe it could be armed somehow.
      Most likely though, this thing isn't going to do anything at all. It proved that they can make something like this work, so the next step would be to make something that's like this, but optimized for a specific use.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eat krill and shrimp via filter-feeding.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Deploys in an EEZ
        >Depopulates the local base of the food chain so the ecosystem collapses
        >Leaves

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No that's what China does.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the local base of the food chain so the ecosystem collapses
          Woah there Ted Farrow.

          Come to think of it, Cyberpunk 2077 had AI submarines autonomously building and deploying sea mines which ended global shipping when the owners lost communication with them and they just kept mining the sea.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Cyberpunk 2077 had AI submarines autonomously building and deploying sea mines which ended global shipping when the owners lost communication with them and they just kept mining the sea.

            This concept annoys me greatly, as the ocean is the least friendly environment for anything to exist, let alone unmanned ships not undergoing repair and refit. Just the hull fouling alone would drag them to a stop in a few years without ANY work done on them. That and any country strategically threatened by that shit would spam missiles but you could handwave that with anything up to and including "corruption, lol!"

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > nanotech handwaving
              All fixed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean i remember a DARPA project awhile back where the idea was a type of concrete that repaired itself while in the water.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a type of concrete that repaired itself while in the water
                It's more like a runflat tire, there's compounds in the concrete that plug up cracks when water gets in. It's not back to full strength and it doesn't get stronger over time (except in the usual way for concrete).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ancient Romans had concrete like this.
                The recipe was only rediscovered a couple years ago.
                https://news.mit.edu/2023/roman-concrete-durability-lime-casts-0106

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That kind of concrete has a lot of problems apparently that makes it an absolute pain in the ass to actually use.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Just the hull fouling alone would drag them to a stop in a few years
              CP2077 assumes a lot of things are "solved problems", like ubiquitous antibiotics that prevent any infection and wound repair that lets you practically walk off the operating table.
              It's not crazy to imagine a future-tech anti-fouling surface that works with near perfect efficacy.

              I haven't read the lore on this in detail though, it's just something you read in passing in the game.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Have a robot arm on the sub that can reach every outside surface

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I’m probably misremembering but I thought that the naval mines were constructed by self replicating nano bots, which is dumb since 1: what materials are the nano bots using to make more of themselves and something as complex as a snazzy AI controlled naval mine, and 2: won’t it eventually just end in a grey naval mine shaped goo situation?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know the answers to those question either and it does sound a bit implausible by Cyberpunk's relatively grounded scifi rules.

                I could just about buy a robosub that filterfeeds like a basking shark and extracts nitrates, potassium and metals from the water and uses them to build very simple mines but otherwise, it does seem a bit far fetched.

                FWIW: I think that it's meant to be a threatened apocalypse because Cyberpunk likes to have a few of those in the background as themes or story hooks.
                I also think it's more that they just can't shut them off rather than them being actually out of control. As in it's still obeying its programming and nothing has really gone wrong with that so it will just replace mines that are destroyed but still only deploy them where it's supposed to and in the numbers/patterns it's supposed to. Not quite that bad compared to the alternatives.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know the answers to those question either and it does sound a bit implausible by Cyberpunk's relatively grounded scifi rules.

                I could just about buy a robosub that filterfeeds like a basking shark and extracts nitrates, potassium and metals from the water and uses them to build very simple mines but otherwise, it does seem a bit far fetched.

                FWIW: I think that it's meant to be a threatened apocalypse because Cyberpunk likes to have a few of those in the background as themes or story hooks.
                I also think it's more that they just can't shut them off rather than them being actually out of control. As in it's still obeying its programming and nothing has really gone wrong with that so it will just replace mines that are destroyed but still only deploy them where it's supposed to and in the numbers/patterns it's supposed to. Not quite that bad compared to the alternatives.

                Also, it killed international shipping but Arasaka's carrier made the trip from Japan to Night City without incident (aside from Suburo wanting to blow away a Militech outpost because there was some IJN aircraft in the sea there and wanting to nuke Night City on general principle).
                So presumably it's not a real threat to military craft who can do mine sweeping, just civilian cargo ships and most of those are said to be unmanned in Cyberpunk, as far back as 2020 I think.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >2: won’t it eventually just end in a grey naval mine shaped goo situation?
                Depends on their parameters. If they're just focused on dropping mines right outside of commercial ports, then they might go dormant after the area is saturated and they have excess stock, just waiting for an explosion to wake them up again. That'd conserve a lot of their resources and make it harder to find and clear them since they won't show up on as many scans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Transform into a B-21

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AMERICONS, TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT!

        >Muffled, The Touch, in the distance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turn a profit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hunt down aussies

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's it supposed to do?
      Take the fight to 8 story tall crustaceans from the protozoic era

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably be a "loitering drone" in seabed.
      Just lay there waiting until something intresting comes close by. Then activate, and do funny things. The shape seems to be optimised to minimize sonar contacts and blend into the bottom of the sea. Don't know how well modern sonars can distinct different materials, but I bet they have thought about that too.

      It could be combined early warning/scouting vehicle and switch to kamikaze mode when it sees a good target.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Probably be a "loitering drone" in seabed.
        >Just lay there waiting until something intresting comes close by. Then activate, and do funny things
        It might be stealthy enough to sneak a nuke up to a reef base, or just slip in, drop some minepedos on the floor and sneak out again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >crank out hundreds for less than the cost to manufacture and crew submarines
      >fill them with nukes
      >park them on the ocean bed offshore of potential belligerents
      >wait
      >??
      >profit

      https://i.imgur.com/xSIK7WX.png

      Man I was expecting amphibious capabilities to be 9th gen at minimum. So are submersible aircraft carriers back on the menu then?

      It's too based so there's no chance

      https://i.imgur.com/BNXlqAB.jpeg

      Probably be a "loitering drone" in seabed.
      Just lay there waiting until something intresting comes close by. Then activate, and do funny things. The shape seems to be optimised to minimize sonar contacts and blend into the bottom of the sea. Don't know how well modern sonars can distinct different materials, but I bet they have thought about that too.

      It could be combined early warning/scouting vehicle and switch to kamikaze mode when it sees a good target.

      Checked and correced

      https://i.imgur.com/T2XCLMn.png

      Apparently this thing is able to hibernate on the sea floor for long periods of time

      Seems like it'll be a Poseidon but actually functional and far outclassing it

      I'm interested in how this thing powered. Doesn't seem like it would be diesel/electric set up. Teeny tiny nuclear reactor?

      >Teeny tiny nuclear reactor?
      No such thing but you might be thinking of a radioisotope thermoelectric generator which it probably is, or at least has as a backup.
      I'd guess it uses an RTG to charge a large on-board battery. It might have solar or wave charging capability as a backup too, or at least a real one might, this wouldn't need it.
      If it's intended to hibernate for periods of time then it really opens up the options for charging because it could float in the middle of the ocean just sunbaking on the surface with some little solar panels in the wings under perspex or something and leisurely charging until passive sonar tells it that someone's getting close enough to see it and it wakes up and dives.
      If you're patient enough then a wave-based or even tidal generator could be made pretty small and provide more than enough current to keep a low-power secondary CPU running that monitors some passive sensors and wakes the primary at the right times.

      Could be a liquid metal reactor like the Russians use. This seems like a pretty ideal application for it but the US has been scared of them for the last 70 years

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turn taxpayer dollars into champagne. It's very good at it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kill robot steve irwin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        TOO SOON.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      enrich northrop shareholders

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/T2XCLMn.png

      Apparently this thing is able to hibernate on the sea floor for long periods of time

      https://i.imgur.com/wB4Rru4.png

      The Manta Ray prototype uncrewed underwater vehicle (UUV) built by performer Northrop Grumman completed full-scale, in-water testing off the coast of Southern California in February and March 2024. Testing demonstrated at-sea hydrodynamic performance, including submerged operations using all the vehicle’s modes of propulsion and steering: buoyancy, propellers, and control surfaces.

      “Our successful, full-scale Manta Ray testing validates the vehicle’s readiness to advance toward real-world operations after being rapidly assembled in the field from modular subsections,” said Dr. Kyle Woerner, DARPA program manager for Manta Ray. “The combination of cross-country modular transportation, in-field assembly, and subsequent deployment demonstrates a first-of-kind capability for an extra-large UUV.”

      https://i.imgur.com/cWMneRM.jpeg

      Northrop Grummans Manta Ray has conducted initial trials at sea.

      https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-05-01

      https://x.com/darpa/status/1785671213160825071?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

      >AAAAAH IM SO FRICKING STUPID
      >I'M USELESS
      >I GET CAUGHT IN FISHING NETS AND SCARE MYSELF TO DEATH
      >I'M moronic AND UNREASONABLY HUGE
      >NO ONE KNOWS WHAT I DO, I JUST FLOAT AROUND AND GET EATEN
      >WHY AM I HERE

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Made me think of this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Action man is so much more SOVLful than GI Joe holy shit

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does it explode?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew this book was ahead of its time when I read it as a kid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I read that too and was also reminded of it. Good job on remembering and finding it.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cool

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking Ace Combat.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    future ASW platform? interesting that there was a manta ray designed ASW asset in that ghost fleet book.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i started reading this but noped out when the chink pilot lady started navigating through her cool 3d unix operating system or whatever like in jurassic park. is the rest of the book not dogshit?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's alright. i read some reviews that compared it to a 21st century red storm rising, but it doesn't hold a candle to it. there's quite a bit of nonsense, and considering it's set in 2026 the writer's ideas of where technology would be in 10 years is childish at best. some neat parts though, but it doesn't really stack up to anything decent.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what’s the point of developing secret military technology if they’re just going to brag about it on Twitter, unless we don’t have any secrets anymore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      typically it's just to dab on thirdies. we make a demonstrator that proves something is a viable concept, and probably have a limited number of another combat model hiding away somewhere. meanwhile, 25 years later thirdies build a copy of the demonstrator and parade it around as a wunderwaffle that they managed to build and perfect while america abandoned because they couldn't get it to work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >typically it's just to dab on thirdies. we make a demonstrator that proves something is a viable concept
        While demonstrators serve a purpose, I think there's a certain soft power building involved as well.
        It doesn't hurt to let everyone know that you're still way ahead of them in various areas, keeps some middle-tier powers from pushing the limits of what they can get away with.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      trick china, give it 6 months and china will unveil a manta copy thats undetectable and supersonic and overall better than the american one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not like they would remain secret to any country who would be interested.
      So you might as well parade them and tell your own population what their tax money is used for.

      The real secret is going to be composition of a drone stealth paint, what method you used to make the sub silent, how far away a sensor actually reach and how well it does. Plus other things I can't tell about because I'd have to eliminate anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the basic exterior dimensions of an object should be a closely-guarded state secret
      Thirdie detected.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hey look its the UFOs everyone has been seeing

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man I hope they give this thing some LRASMs and we could have true kino

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HOLY FRICK ITS ARSENAL GEAR

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm interested in how this thing powered. Doesn't seem like it would be diesel/electric set up. Teeny tiny nuclear reactor?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Teeny tiny nuclear reactor?
      No such thing but you might be thinking of a radioisotope thermoelectric generator which it probably is, or at least has as a backup.
      I'd guess it uses an RTG to charge a large on-board battery. It might have solar or wave charging capability as a backup too, or at least a real one might, this wouldn't need it.
      If it's intended to hibernate for periods of time then it really opens up the options for charging because it could float in the middle of the ocean just sunbaking on the surface with some little solar panels in the wings under perspex or something and leisurely charging until passive sonar tells it that someone's getting close enough to see it and it wakes up and dives.
      If you're patient enough then a wave-based or even tidal generator could be made pretty small and provide more than enough current to keep a low-power secondary CPU running that monitors some passive sensors and wakes the primary at the right times.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most important question remains unanswered. Can you grab onto the front and ride it like it's biological cousin?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    https://twitter.com/anthroaerospace/status/1785699760021672124?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ
    I figured it out....

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man I was expecting amphibious capabilities to be 9th gen at minimum. So are submersible aircraft carriers back on the menu then?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The main issue is getting an engine that requires basically no maintenance and just keeps going for years at a time, nuclear is ideal but good luck convincing anyone to have unattended nuclear reactors all over the ocean.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The main issue is getting an engine that requires basically no maintenance
          See

          >Teeny tiny nuclear reactor?
          No such thing but you might be thinking of a radioisotope thermoelectric generator which it probably is, or at least has as a backup.
          I'd guess it uses an RTG to charge a large on-board battery. It might have solar or wave charging capability as a backup too, or at least a real one might, this wouldn't need it.
          If it's intended to hibernate for periods of time then it really opens up the options for charging because it could float in the middle of the ocean just sunbaking on the surface with some little solar panels in the wings under perspex or something and leisurely charging until passive sonar tells it that someone's getting close enough to see it and it wakes up and dives.
          If you're patient enough then a wave-based or even tidal generator could be made pretty small and provide more than enough current to keep a low-power secondary CPU running that monitors some passive sensors and wakes the primary at the right times.

          RTGs have been running Voyager I for 47 years and counting and in far more extreme conditions.
          We already use them in remote locations and it's not really that big a deal if they leak into the ocean. Not in the numbers that are around now anyway, if navies are fielding tens of thousands of these things, it could be a real problem in the future.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >RTGs have been running Voyager I for 47 years and counting and in far more extreme conditions.
            also far lower power requirements. Voyager has nearly zero power expenditure compared to something that actually has to move

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >also far lower power requirements. Voyager has nearly zero power expenditure
              Check the power supplied at launch, it's much more than you'd think. It's degraded by 80-90% now but our ray sub won't need that kind of lifetime and the power loss is mostly just fuel expenditure anyway so it could be refueled at a nuke capable port. Possibly even just the RTGs swapped out and the old ones sent back to the states though I expect NATO bases could handle replacing radioisotope rods or something, it doesn't take that much containment.

              The sub has the advantage that it can just use the RTG to charge its battery, it doesn't need to run off it. If it gets to low battery, it parks on the sea bed and charges if in hostile territory or on the surface and charges quicker if not in war conditions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The IAEA doesn't want you to know this but nuclear reactors floating in the ocean are free.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >unidentified transmedium craft
      What did globohomosexual mean by this?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is a sign we are about 10 years away from the 4th industrial revolution for the benefit of society. The military is always a foreshadow. AI, robotics, & automation. Will essentially cause massive deflation on a wide scale, which is a good thing. Innovation = deflation. Food, clothing & housing will be dirt cheap in 10 years but not in a communist sense. It will be the highest quality. On the military side, we will have the ability to produce unmanned hardware with precision strike capabilities in mass, as well. The US will be the first military to combine quality + quantity - we will have the first military that will be used to destroy life if neccesary, but also preserve our own lives to the maximum effect via unmanned tech. The best part is that Russia destroyed itself before these innovation, but we also are selling massive amounts of military hardware that will be 100% obsolete to what the US will have in 10 years and that will just be the beginning. If the Europeans & the rest of the world want to blame us in the future for taking advantage of this once in a millennium opportunity, they can go ahead & blame the 2 greatest military defense assets in history - the Atlantic & Pacific oceans. Whatever happens in the rest of the world during this upcoming 10 year period, the oceans will allow us to watch from a distance & help where we see fit from a distance. The East cannot innovate without copying the West, but also suffer from the fact that the East has a greater demographic challenge than the West & it's not even close. If they want to engage in unmanned combat, they are 50 years behind the the US in terms of being able to fight while also having a demographic crisis. All the while, the most important Industrial Revolution is taking place in America that is yet to be seen & is unhindered. God Bless America & the two greatest military/defense assets on the planet - the Atlantic & Pacific oceans.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they want to do with it? Yet more zog toys to project power and terrorize the world?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SO THE MIC WON'T LET ME BE
    OR LET ME BE ME, SO LET ME SEE
    TRIED TO SHUT ME DOWN IN THE S. CHINA SEA
    BUT IT'D BE SO CHINKY WITHOUT ME

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive, how many Chinese supplier parts imported from Mexico did it uses

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mad nobody likes your thread chang?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cope harder junkie mutt

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, I thought they make air planes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Planes that drop into water

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice. Those are pretty high up in the tech tree.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://youtu.be/WiEbNi-7Gpg?si=FLBuogGqFHyXH7AE
      The commanders of the next American Civil War already played this game.

      TFTDmind

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did anyone ever complete this game? I could defeat the original on highest difficulty setting (after difficulty bug fix), but even TFTD on easy always fricked me up immediately when the aliens started using mind control.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not that much harder than the original outside of the hell that is cruise ship terror missions, and abusing explosives is easier than ever since you can stack some of them without explosions destroying the other armed bombs before they detonates.
          Psi is always a b***h but it's not any worse than the original.
          Tentaculats are scary as frick since they're flying chrysallids, but the fact that you don't get them on terror missions like chrysallids means you're up against way less of them without convenient civilians for them to rape, and while lobstermen are bastards they insantly fold to stun and drills.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I just never found a strategy that worked reliably. In the original I always just armed everyone with heavy plasmas and alien grenades as fast as possible and whenever I got my first blaster launcher it was smooth sailing to mars. In TFTD I usually got shrek'd before I got to the blaster launcher equivalent. And, yeah, those multi-level terror missions were pretty much impossible for me.
            Didn't know you could stack explosives, that would definitely make it a bit easier. Also never used any of the melee weapons. I couldn't read english when I first played the game so any tips in the in game encyclopedia were lost on me.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=FLBuogGqFHyXH7AE
    The commanders of the next American Civil War already played this game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >next American Civil War
      WWIII maybe.
      I don't think an American Civil War would see heavy use of submarines. Not zero granted but it's not going to be a defining feature the way it will be in the South China Sea where this is really going to shine.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Given its shape, I wonder if it does the shark thing of not being buoyant when underwater and relying on lift to stay off the sea bed. Like a plane, but swimming.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see this thing surfacing to fire 1 or 2 LRASMs and sink away or just explode cause lol drone. Lots of these could be spooky as frick

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for the SCMP cope articles from the chinks saying that they "achually have something similar too!".

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long until it crashes into a whale or an orca decides to ram it and flip it over?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Millions of aliens pouring into our country and our cities are being fed by crime and this is what congress is focused on.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Millions of aliens pouring into our country and our cities are being fed by crime
      Immigration is at normal levels and crime has steadily decreased.
      Try again glavset.

      > and this is what congress is focused on.
      You'd like the west to abandon military technology but it's not going to happen. Western MIC will continue to advance and you'll be left far behind.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Immigration is at normal levels and crime has steadily decreased
        Nice gaslighting attempt, but any that isn't chronically online all day everyday like you are, can just look around outside at their surroundings.
        >crime everywhere
        >police won't do shit against criminals
        >but they will smash in teenagers heads for protesting against ZOG
        >millions of illegals have come in the past couple years

        Your lies have no power.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like the crime has steadily decreased lie. There was a huge increase in 2020 which the media calls the COVID increase (not the Floyd surplus) and we're still not back down to violent crime levels from a decade ago. Basically set us back 15 years.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's good though. The shills and regime automatons can't do anything other than lie because they have nothing else. They have no answers to the serious problems society is facing right now. The System is collapsing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just 2 more weeks surely

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NAFO gore posting
                Ngmi

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already made it, I have a fresh daily buffet of delectable zigger death. What more could one want than watching disgusting ru*sians dying in agony?
                I am a moderate btw

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This post is a prime example of brain rot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TZD

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                grow up manchild

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weapons procurement at the congressional level is a sales pitch. They aren't doing much thinking there.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most MIC waste for meme gizmos

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But what does it do?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Makes a lot of "Consultants" and defense contractor board members a lot of money. That's pretty much it.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks cool but is it actually any good

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats the point of this? carrying nuclear warheads?

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Useless without shells

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The amount of brainrot on this board. Nuclear power? what the frick are you people talking about
    >propulsion method: buoyancy
    It's an underwater glider.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where do you think the propellers get power anon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Simple, there is a battery of hamsters on wheels

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what are batteries?
        >how do conventionally-powered air-independent propulsion submarines work?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how do conventionally-powered air-independent propulsion submarines work?
          Nuclear power

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This thing uses batteries and recharges by swimming up to an underwater recharging station that harvests energy from thermal differentials by??? which might sound moronic but,
        >DARPA

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We need one that can float up to China's new aircraft carrier and attach itself with very powerful magnets and if China doesn't pay us the ransom we blow the hull. Like a naval warfare version of the barnacle parking device.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we'll name it the Remora

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      isn't that just a limpet mine?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpet_mine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is, but you need divers to manually attach those. Drone limpet mines would be game changing. Imagine having a bunch of them explode at the same time remotely.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only in the way that a Hellfire is just an antitank grenade

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if its meant to do stealthy shit it needs to be fully autonomous, otherwise EW would pick it up, and too much shit could go wrong if there is no human supervision
    which means its probably for anti sub stuff or littoral recon, cause field assembly

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are the hydrodynamic benefits of a manta shape
    what if it can go into ground effect

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally flies underwater, generating lift just like plane wings do in the air. Normal submarines use buoyant air tanks to control their vertical axis, floating like balloons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not lift. Dive. The wings are upside down compared to aircraft wings and generate 'dive' to counter the craft's buoyancy. Gun fact, normal subs are reverse-zeppelins too.

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