Whats the /k/onsensus?
Could the "high incident bandits" have gotten away if they werent so moronet and or high on drugs?
Why didnt they manage to kill a single officer?
Did it all go bad because they diverted from their original plan?
North Hollywood
>spray and pray
>don't pray
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Lee Harvey Oswald
>Could the "high incident bandits" have gotten away if they werent so moronet and or high on drugs?
Probably
>Why didnt they manage to kill a single officer?
>Did it all go bad because they diverted from their original plan?
Yes. They were high and became enraged when things didn’t go as planned. They diverted from it even further into a drug induced rampage instead of just trying to salvage it and gtfo as fast as possible. It gave police the chance to finally wound them and for SWAT to arrive with the better weapons and cut off their prolonged exit.
Lee just showed off a little what a marine and his rifle can accomplish 2/3 including a wicked head shot in less than 8 seconds
>baptized in a firefight
>hot blood running cold as ice
>44 minutes of target practice
>all hell is breaking loose
>outgunned
>watching "the force" come to a firefight
>with a pocketknife
>getting schooled until they shot Achilles Heel
>and brought down the beast
Absolute heroes
>didn't kill a single pig
>heroes
pick one homosexual
I do wonder if that drum mag jammed on him and thats why he surrendered to swat, only for the pigs to let him bleed to death. I also wonder what Matasareanu had as a sidearm
did he surrender? I was under the impression swat turned his legs into paste to the point of incapacitation.
>Mătăsăreanu was incapacitated by officers three blocks away and subsequently bled to death before the arrival of paramedics more than an hour later.
Yep. Pretty sure the ambulance being late was no accident, how they weren't on the scene or nearby asap after the shootout began is baffling unless it was intentional.
Who cares? Gay of them to surrender after all that and expect the cops to roll out the red carpet lmao
i don't care, just saying
Harsh but fair
>Shoots at police and hits multiple
>”Why didn’t they save his life???”
Shut the frick up, pussy got what he deserved and his friend took the cowards way out.
Black person no one fricking ask why it happened, only mentioned it was intentional nor did I have an opinion about it being intentional, go back to sucking wiener
Calling me a Black person yet her you are simping for a pair of dirty eurogays. Cope harder and KYS Black person israelite
go back to your shit board tourist, no one's shilling shit
They typically don't let medics into an active shooting for obvious reasons. I doubt they had any good will towards the robbers, but still.
Those guys had all their extremities covered with old vests. There’s a guy on eBay who sells upper/lower arm and leg armor and it always makes me think of those meth’d out dudes.
They actually took phenobarbital which has a complete opposite effect than meth
It’s a cns depressant to calm their nerves it’s also used for euthanasia in higher doses
My old man was friends with a paramedic who was one of the first one the scene in the aftermath of the 1986 Miami shootout.
He started performing first aid on one of the shooters and an agent ran over and kicked the guy and the ribs and told the paramedic to get off him
Wouldn't surprise me of this incident had something similar
average response times for paramedics in LA
well after reading more into it yesterday, it was standard procedure for ambulances in LA to stay out of the 'HOT ZONE', but the cops thought there was a 3rd person which is what delayed them from coming to serve aid because it was considered 'hot' while they searched for a 3rd person that didn't exist
I don’t know how it was back then, but nowadays you aren’t allowed anywhere near an active gunfight. Considering there were reports of a third shooter it’s not a big surprise they weren’t able to get to him.
He did surrender but it wasn’t visible to police because they were basically shooting prone because the only visible target at that point was his legs (that’s what I hear at least)
none of the weapons jammed, I think 1 or 2 of the rifles got shot by the cops and destroyed the lower receiver and they swapped it out when it happened for one of their other rifles
Whats the advantage of a dissipator on your AR?
bigger hand guard, usually a beefier barrel, more shit for heat to dissapate on basically, hence the name. they used weapons and modified them to be automatic
Looks cool
I remember watching this live as it unfolded on TV from San Diego as a kid and the helicopters having to peel off cause they were taking fire. Thought it was the most badass thing I was really rooting for those 2 to massacre the cops. Then found out no one except the 2 gun men died and I was devastated.
Bad guys lost, good guys won, good day.
Legends.
Hard knowing this dude would be dead not long after this photo was taken. Most badass duo ever, if only they'd kill'd dozens of pigs
Is that homemade webbing?
the lesson is to have a getaway plan more complex than 'idk shoot a bunch'
Both sides were complete morons. The robbers for thinking this was a good idea in the first place and failing to kill a single police officer. The cops for allowing the shootout to go on for nearly an hour before one offed himself upon realizing how much of a moron he was and the other somehow managed to die of a gunshot wound to the foot.
>managed to die of a gunshot wound to the foot.
Black person, he got shot 29 times in the legs and died due to bleeding from his thigh
They had done this drill multiple times to bear perfection. A patrol car spotted then entering the bank by chance and here we are today, they probably would've been caught eventually though
That's not what I read. They just had really bad luck, they scoped the place out for 4-5 weeks, learned everything. When they arrived one of the bank security guys was in the parking lot and one of them inside radioed him to call the cops.
The vault was also less full than usual because of some weird incident so they were pist and wanted money so they wasted more time arguing with managers, and then they tried to get the ATM money but the manager couldn't open it so more time wasted.
Just really bad luck after a lot of careful planning.
>high on drugs
wasn't it confirmed that they were only on anti-anxiety meds?
>Why didn't they manage to kill a single officer?
They got close with two, iirc. But in general, it's because they were trying to suppress and get away.
>Did it all go bad because they diverted from their original plan?
No. It went bad because of bad luck.
>This guys walks into the bank and slaps your gf's ass
>keep in mind he's wearing 50lbs of body armor and has a machine gun
Shoot him in the head, making all 50lbs of body armor useless.
what is this
cctv from the North Hollywood robbery
It was more a weapon malfunction and quick police response that did them in, they were fricked by the time they left the bank.
They were stupid and didn't create a crisis in a different part of the town to distract the police.
This is why you always do your research, especially police response times for the given area, and how many they respond with to certain events.
If you're going to be stealing millions of dollars at least work like you're going to be paid that amount.
>If you're going to be stealing millions of dollars at least work like you're going to be paid that amount.
So... Actually go work for a bank and steal that much?
The one guy was an MK Ultra sleeper agent and the other was just a bored moron who wanted to be cool. They didn't kill anyone on purpose because it was all a massive suicide stunt to militarize the police. Taking off the body armor was never part of the plan.
btw if anyone wants to read about yet ANOTHER shootout in Los Angeles where thousands of rounds were expended without killing any pigs, check this out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army#Move_to_Los_Angeles_and_police_shootout
>Every round fired by SLA members at the police missed the officers. There were no casualties among law enforcement, firefighters and civilians.
How is that even REMOTELY fricking possible? They fired 5,000 rounds for 2 hours out of modified full-auto M1 carbines and didn't hit a single cop???
the house was full of tear gas and they were just wildly firing blind
>stick around at the scene for like 20 minutes with every cop in the entire city shooting at you
>when you do flee, split up in two directions and get your car stuck
>fail at carjacking another car because the dude took the keys when he ran
They should have watched Heat a little bit more carefully and actually GTFO'd as soon as the cops showed up the way De Niro did.
I remember watching this as a kid and thinking it was the coolest shit. Not because of anything involving their plans, but because of how effective their body armor was. It was the first thing I'd seen in the modern day of a knight wading into battle being shot by archers and being utterly impervious to harm. Granted both ended up dying and they survived so long due to lack of available high-powered weapons, but since then my fascination for armor has still outstripped that of weapons. In this age of hi-tech weaponry obviating really heavy armor, it's kind of a shame we won't see something like that in modern day.
My belief is you could but no country is willing to spend 150k to up armor a soldier to the point where almost anything is survivable. I could see this happening in very limited special operations applications but that's the extent of it. I even heard that US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan had to buy their own body armor beyond what was being offered. Kinda fricked up if you ask me as the guys there knew the threats better than any paper pusher back at The Pentagon would.
>be North Hollywood gypsies
>do bank robbery
>shoot at cops
>kill zero (0) cops
>die
>be moronic leafs in Saanich
>do bank robbery
>shoot at cops
>kill zero (zero) cops
>die
Why are bank robbing LARPerators such failures?
because robbing a bank is utterly moronic to begin with.
Why would you want to add murder charges on top of everything else?
The copycats in Saanich stuck around after they got the cash, and deliberately waited to engage the cops.
Robbing banks in general is a terrible way to make money as a criminal and these two fricktards proved it.
>The robbers forced assistant manager John Villigrana to open the vault. Villigrana obliged and began to fill the robbers' money bag. However, due to a change in the bank's delivery schedule, the vault contained significantly less than the $750,000 the gunmen had expected. Matasareanu enraged at this development, argued with Villigrana and demanded more. In an apparent show of frustration, Mătăsăreanu then fired a full drum magazine of 75 rounds into the bank's safe, destroying much of the remaining money. Matasareanu then attempted to open the bank's ATM, but due to a change in policies, the branch manager no longer had access to the money inside. Before leaving, the robbers locked the hostages in the bank vault. In the end, the two left with $303,305 and three dye packs which later exploded, ruining the money they stole.
Even if these guys had managed to escape the police, it would have ultimately been for nothing because no one is going to be fricking taking money with a giant purple splotch on it.
It gets better though. Even if they had somehow managed to identify and remove the dye packs before fleeing, chances are they almost certainly made off with marked bills (bills with their serial numbers recorded), meaning that the very moment they tried to deposit said cash, it would have been immediately flagged. The only way they could have potentially made that money spendable would have been to commit yet another crime and launder it. Money laundering in of itself extremely difficult to pull off without getting caught, even relatively simple methods like going to casinos and exchanging it for chips are likely to wind up getting flagged if you're spending more than a few thousand dollars at a time.
They had already committed at least one murder prior to the fateful shootout.
They'd already walked away from a previous robbery with 1.5 million, so back in the day before everyone used credit cards and digital transactions, they actually were quite successful even if they then needed to find a way to convert that to spendable money.
Fair enough, but still, robbing banks is one of the shittiest get rich quick schemes out there because it's so painfully obvious that just about every imaginable countermeasure for them has already been thought up and implemented.
If you want to steal from a bank, go to college and go work for one. Embezzlement's a lot easier to pull off in the long run than walking up to a bank teller with an assault rifle and carries significantly less jail time.
>They'd already walked away from a previous robbery with 1.5 million
That was retirement money back then. They could have laundered it by living off it for the next 20 years while working regular jobs, and ended up just fine.
>In an apparent show of frustration, Mătăsăreanu
then fired a full drum magazine of 75 rounds into the bank's safe
No he didn't. northhollywoodshootout.net is actually researched if you care to learn about it
These most bizarre thing about these guys is that they successfully hit a cash truck for 1.5 mil and got away with it prior to this.
other banks not cash trucks mental mixup with heat
that's because they did it for F U N
To all the people talking about how long it took for the ambulance to reach the suspect, here's the legitimate answer. In mass casualty situations, the ambulance isn't allowed into the area until police have secured the scene. Then, they remove injured emergency personnel first starting with the most injured first. Once the injured cops or fire fighters are removed then they evacuate injured civilians based on injury levels. Then, they evacuate the suspects last.
What's the deal with the texture on the light mount?
It looks weird as frick.
In what part of that sequence do they check their cellphones?
That's a legitimate question I will refer to our esteemed colleagues at the Uvalde PD.
This was LAPD in the 1990s. They werent getting away from shit and the cops werent checking any phones. LAPD circa 1997 probably spat in the dudes face and called him a homosexual while he bled out. And thats a good thing sweaty
Honestly suppressing fire would have kept the cops back. When you're seriously outnumbered, it's not a good idea to push your luck. The less of a threat you're deemed, the more likely you are to actually escape.
In other words, I simply would have not wasted ammo trying to kill my opponents. Just deter them from pursuing. I've got enough armor to shield me from handgun rounds.