Def Mon did some calculations on distances/travel times for the Russian supply change now that the railway system has been disables down in Crimea.
We are now looking at similar distances as for the great Kyiv offensive, around 12 hours to reach destination, offload and get back.
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1560225371089522689/
I sometimes forget how big Ukraine actually is.
Ukraine is so big, did you know they have T-I-G-E-R-S?
That's one thing nu-Russia makes that I actually like. It's really shit though, isn't it?
The TIGR is actually pretty good from what i've heard. Captured ones are well liked.
I think they look neat but what's up with the camo on the inside?
So the inside becomes invisible and you can look outside. Much cheaper than western VR tech and cameras and shit.
it’s probably hydrodipped
>https://twitter.com/KharkivKherson/status/1559263039500832768
I sincerely hope this ain't a manual transmission ffs
but it is.
problem?
>driving automatic in a warzone
lmao
>push peddle
>it drives
This is living in a nation with reliable automatic transmissions
In a warzone you value being able to choose how much torque you put on your wheels more than you value convenience.
>doesnt know you can manually select gears in an automatic transmission built past 1954
Anon what third world shit hole do you come from that you don't understand how modern automatic transmissions in any truck work
>use left leg to push on the clutch
>it drives
This is living in a nation with both legs and a brain.
Are you moronic? You don't use an automatic in an off-road vehicle.
> meanwhile, M-ATVs aren't manual
Manual or automatic don't really matter outside of very niche situations, what's important is the reliability of the transmission to withstand combat conditions
To camouflage the wreck when it is blown up so Oryx can't count it
probably good car, just not the way Russians used it(driving troops into killzones of enemy armed with AT weapons to the teeth)
Well, ukies like them a lot, take from that what you will
Isn't it just a off-brand Iveco LMV?
That's the Rys
When Russians develop systems by all means they can be pretty good, problem is they can't necessarily actually make them in meaningful quantities.
A pretty significant portion of the important bits of the Tigers is western made so it's probably pretty compared to anything else they have, engine is a Cummins iirc
They started to replace engine imports with their domestic variants. So possible that new Tigrs will be worse than old ones
It's a milcar, it goes vroom. It's fine unless the morons decide to drive into queef because the great leader said the soviet will has been rekindled.
It's good at being a lightly armored utility vehicle
It's bad at attacking fortified enemy cities with no support of any kind
That reminds me, why is there steel wire in tires? Structural strength or something like in reinforced concrete?
It prevents the tire from flexing like a rubber balloon. Also structural stability for surviving road hazards
Much obliged (unironically).
Yeah 28 VDVs
pulling up in big black Tigr trucks
helicopters crashing
Sevastopol is under siege
under lockdown
VDV are gonna frick some conscript butts!
lookin for Azov
gonna frick Azov butts!
Very nice
It definitely is.
For you
https://archive.is/CRyUs
it's pretty heckin' large
Me too, volodya
Really?
Because
and
were reminding me of just how small the contested region is.
Texas. It's like Texas-sized. Dirtbike and a gas-can puts you from a friendly city into behind enemy lines.
Kiev in the north to Crimea in the south is only a 9 hour drive. Which is way different for tanks and thousands of soldiers. Or, you know, if someone is shooting at you. But the fighting even the furthest away from the capital is a day away.
>Texas-sized
>small
Your sense of scale is irreparably fricked. Consider that Belgium is 4.4% of the land area of Texas.
>Your sense of scale is irreparably fricked. Consider that Belgium is 4.4% of the land area of Texas.
Belgium is hardly a country tho.
t. Belgian
>Belgium is hardly a country tho.
You can keep country status on account of having the best Grand Prix ciruit and the best beer in the world.
>the best beer in the world
Heh, good joke.
It's like you Black folk have never been to Westvleteren
>muh monks
it's a meme, anon.
>it's a meme, anon.
I can assure you it isn't.
>They probably think Heineken is good.
Jesus, I did when I was very young.
Most PrepHole posters are Americans.
They have never tasted good meat, good cheese, good produce or good beer in their life.
They probably think Heineken is good.
anon, every beer in Europe, with a few exceptions, mainly international big name items is roughly as good as every other beer. At least once you are north of the beer-wine line.
And the monk shit is the same, if you like that style of beer, knock yourself out. But it's not like you need monks to make that shit, there's enough other breweries to go around.
>t. Amerisharts who fellate Belgian beer just because it's the first non-pisswasser they ever tasted
So much seethe is unhealthy for you, fren.
Germany might have inferior beer to Belgium and Czechia, but that still leaves you in the top 10. Don't get your lederhosen in a twist.
>the best beer in the world
lmao
no
>having the best Grand Prix circuit
Now this is a reason I can get behind
The annual Army-Navy football game in the US involves longer distances and movement of more troops than most European nations have ever dealt with.
This is before hitting mines left by partisans, drone attacks, ambushes etc.
It can get bad, really bad.
Railbridge between Melitopol and Tokmak was kaput too
Which was the reason there was a larger gathering of vehicles and ammo at Dzhankoi.
I see two problems here.
1. The rail has been disrupted, not destroyed. Some bridges are missing and some stations and depots got vaproized, and some trains as well. but rails are easy to repair. E.g. you can still reach Melitopol by rail, it'll just take longer. Kherson is the only place in real trouble.
2.The disaster around Kiev was not because of the distance, it was due to the lack of rail logistics on which the Russian army is heavily reliant. Here, the rail has not magically disappeared.
So it's a problem, but not a massive one.
Repairing railway bridges is a difficult and time consuming process
>railway system has been disables down
railways are even easier to repair than roads
In Melitopol and Dzhankoy the SOF of the AFU have not only damaged the rails, they blew them up on bridges and unloading platforms. This is already much more difficult to repair.
Lol
https://twitter.com/KharkivKherson/status/1559263039500832768
da just put on new rails
What the air defense doing?
hiding from HARM
Yes, and this is accounted for in one of the posts you're responding to.
No they absolutely aren't you illiterate inbred.
>Vatniks still impersonating me
Rent-free in the Russian shill heads, lol. Don't you Vatniks know I retired the name?
You knew they'd fricking do that, didn't you? You marched them straight into a namegay-hate trap and then just ditched the name and left them holding the bag.
>tfw vatniks get outmaneuvered by a moronic avatargay
Nobody is saying they cut Crimea off you dunderhead. The fricking Kerch Bridge is still standing. We're saying that the supply lines to get shit FROM Crimea to the troops are now 12+ hours, since the rails are cut ATM and they have to hide the ammo dumps out of HIMARS range.
The /k/ope is getting desperate. Winter is soon....ticktock...
Based. Nu-/k/ will get purged when all the eurocucks freeze to death lmao.
Sleepy Biden ensures USA will do same 🙂
uh oh vatBlack person sisters!
>muh winter
>muh freezing
what a cope, based on false hopes and mentally insane assumptions
>Germany is on Track to Meeting its Gas Saving Target
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2022/08/11/CF-Germany-on-track-to-meet-gas-saving-target
>stored gas reserves already highter than in 2021
https://agsi.gie.eu/graphs/DE
get fricked. no one will freeze, nothing will happen.
you russucks are so stupid, you fall into one trap after another
They are just moronic, they should have stopped all gas immediately and drove the EU into a recession. But they couldn't, because they need the revenues.
So what did they do? They lowered it bit by bit to keep gas prices up and get what they could while they still could. But high gas prices encourage people to be more careful with how they consume gas, so everyone started saving it on its own, and countries had more time to prepare.
Now we are in August, gas reserves are getting filled in preparation for winter, LNG terminals and new pipelines are being built, and Russia already cut a lot of its gas exports. If going from 100% supply to 25% didn't kill Europe, I doubt going from 25% to 0% will.
Alternative would have been to let gas flow freely and it would have been extremely difficult for euros to make the expensive decision to stop buying russian gas.
Now they did not actually achieve anything concrete, and made euros to swap off from russian resources. Honestly the incompetence is almost impressive.
You know big gas storages are for a european country? ~15% annual consumption give or take. Europe is absolutely fricked economically now
Gas storage are meant to cover peak consumption. Countries still import gas normally even during the winter.
The Europeans will have no choice but to recognize the independence of the CSA and stop the Feds from genociding innocent children.
Just two more seasons
Post Georgia
It serves us right for turning a blind eye to Putins paedophilia and corruption.
We made a deal with the devil and now we must live with the consequences.
But we will survive, this isn't the world first energy crisis, and it won't be the last.
It's amazing to see 'right wing' ''"people'''' see the same talking points as left wing morons about Venezuela 20 years ago
>The world needs Venezuela's resources
>You will all starve and freeze without them
>Venezuela will be fine and prosper
>Venezuela doesnt need an economy besides oil. The elites of Venezuela will gladly distribute the oil wealth to the people!
>Socialism and a state economy work and make the people rich
>We don't need phones or new cars, but you need out oil!
>We don't need western products. China will help us!
And now they say the same about Russia. And probably some other tinpot dictatorship in 20 years.
Because many of these Right Wing people are simply embittered leftists who dropped the leftist part when leftism went Woke.
austria has already most if the fillup they expected to reach in november.
they bought 80% of their gas from russia, now they are at 40% and dropping.
new gas heatings / plants / industry are prohibited and the mountain men just kicked their environtal protection laws to build more solar, wind and hydropower plants (already at 80% renewable for electricity).
own depleted gas fields are used as gas storage, hazprom storages were seized and are filled to help out the germcucks if needed.
thecrest of europe is already in a far better position energy resource wise. russhits, shitskins and esp. sheiks will have to feed themselves soon. which they cant.
>bought 80% of their gas from russia, now they are at 40%
So even by your fake numbers, russia is making more rubles today, at a lower volume. You gays are so dumb.
> making more rubles today, at a lower volume
Gas income is down to 25% of earlier volume.
And the best part is, Russia's storage capacity was filled up in the spring. They've had to destroy excess gas since then. Even close a few fields.
No, you're lying, now.
oh come in, at least try
maybe the russians can use these as fishing travlers?
they were built in the west so they are gonna work fine, unless russisn crap.
Black person please, you can actually see the fire all the way from Finland because ruskies are burning gas with such intensity. Shit has been burning with full flame for over a month now.
>Black person please, you can actually see the fire all the way from Finland because ruskies are burning gas with such intensity. Shit has been burning with full flame for over a month now.
Are you sure that's burning excess? Cuz refineries often burn off byproducts.
Its not a refinery, its a gas compressor station.
>Its not a refinery, its a gas compressor station.
Can't tell that from a picture, can I?
>he thinks the refineries are where the gas fields are
None of this is visible from the picture.
>he thinks gas needs refineries
But oil refineries do have flare stacks.
>he thinks a gas flare can be this size
Oil refineries have tall flare stacks and yes, they sometimes burn as brightly and tall. I used to drive in view of one on my way to work.
>he thinks the refineries are where the gas fields are
>he thinks gas needs refineries
>he thinks a gas flare can be this size
Add some trees.
lol you're an idiot. Two decent construction vehicle operators can construct a serviceable road for heavy vehicles using a bulldozer, digger and gravel. You can even improvise bridges with this equipment.
Roads damaged by artillery can be repaired just by filling the holes with dirt and gravel
Railroads take much more time and specialized equipment to repair.
The "down to 25%" figure is from official Russian sources. The reality is probably even worse.
mongrel, this is their last pull.
the industries are changing their main sources throughout europe. next year it will be zero gas from russia. what are the poorshit russkies gonna do then? borschtsch with 10% dirt and 90% water?
Gas prices didn't actualyl double outside vatBlack person propaganda, try again.
Also, Russia is forced to sell its gas BELOW MARKET PRICE now. Because those countries still willing to buy are very well aware that there's no alternate buyers left and that Russia is desperate to sell, so they can demand discount after discount.
My question is why in the goddamn hell didn't Russia invade in the late Fall? Why wait until Spring when demand for gas is falling and the part of the country they're trying to invade turns into a giant mud puddle? If they had done that, then their threats to shut off the gas to Europe might have carried some weight, but instead they gave Europe an entire year to sort out new sources of gas before it became a problem.
Even if they have the gas/resources blackmail, it's still way fricking harder to invade and conduct military operations in fall/winter weather.
Everything down to the little things you don't typically think of, like camping
>summer, sleep wherever, lots of shrubs for cover, dont need blankets and shit, etc
>winter, freezing, need shelter and heat, no shrubs or leaves for cover, everyone needs layers of clothes
Putin seriously thought it would take 3 days to get in and out. he was gonna go earlier but Xi told him to hold off....you know, cause he takes orders from him now
To be more precise Xi didn't want Putin stupid idea to disrupt coverage of Winter Olympics.
This is very important to Xi because it was his successful organization of Summer Olympics that let Xi clib into higest dlseats of power in CCP.
I bet in retrospect he's thankful Putin's stupid war distracted from Xi's disastrous handling of the Winter Olympics.
>two more seasons!
you don't get it, Eurocuck. Sooner or later, one of these winters is going to be real bad and you'll be sorry. Just you wait.
>muh nukes
>muh army
>muh cold
What will the next orc cope be? Nobody is even slightly intimidated by any of them.
You dont give it you dumb motherfricker; Russians suck dick at logistics even when its summer. They're going to get Napolean'd/Hitler'd on their own doorstep you stupid c**t
So it's not even gonna be this winter but some random winter at some point in the future? lmao
I wish, haven't seen snow in years because of your globohomowarming.
NOOOOOO!!!! GENERAL WINTER!!!! PLEASE COME AND SAVE ME AGAIN! I FRICKED UP AGAIN!
t. russia
lol
lmao
>one of these winters
Top-fricking-kek. If this is bait it's excellent!
whatever
It's pretty sad that the only hope Vatniks have left to hold on to is for all of Europe and the US to give up and force Ukraine to surrender because the Germs got a little chilly.
>Russia will whe-ACK
>Points Refuted: None
>Countries freezing to death: Yours
>tfw burgerclap
Deflect harder, Vatnik. You might be able to deflect a Javelin soon.
>Javelin
Kek, basically nonfunctional in holhol hands.
Man you vatniks are really living on a different planet aren't you. There are so many videos out there of Ukrainians turning your armoured forces to ash that people dont even bat an eye when new javelin videos get released.
xaxaxaxa what are you going to do, wectoid? use your wunderwaffen like sweaters, jackets and bedcovers? *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~))
>wectoid - spends the whole winter in a 15C house, sleeps in a sweater and jacket, pays 200$ more for utilities
>russoid - gets a heat-up to 3000C in 0.003 seconds, wears a convenient lightweight package, buys a new Lada for a family
It's over, HATObros.
>Sleeps in a sweater
Black person I never bother heating to 15c lmao, I let it go down to 1c before I even consider sticking on the heating (Only in the mornings so I can dress more comfortably). At -5 or lower in the day (The worst of our winter days) I put it on sometimes to stop pipes freezing, though but it rarely happens due to the heat transferring from the ground pipes which are usually at 5c but just in case I do
But yeah there's something called a thick Duvet, they keep you warm at night. Maybe an extra blanket at -7.
>spends the whole winter in a 15C house
I'd spend the summer in one too, 15C is rather comfortable.
t. Canadian
Any plan that relies on your enemy simply giving up and leaving is a bad plan
>Any plan that relies on your enemy simply giving up and leaving is a bad plan
worked out okay for the taliban, you /k/ids lack patience
If it comes down to kill or die of cold the Euros can easily roll over the border and just take the gas
The fact it won't come down to that is the only reason you're not going to face a genocide
You know, this is something I never understood about the chinks and the ivans and the jihadis and shit.
They are all basically advocating for a return to the pre-20th century world, where powerful states can do as they will and annex who they please because they have shit they want to frick up and are sick of the "rules based international order" holding them back
Yet none of them seem to realise that if they ever actually got what they wanted this would immediately result in them all becoming European colonies again, which is a very serious oversight in my opinion
They drank their own koolaid about being strong, the eastern dragon/great jihadi biding its time against decadent west. Russia’s failure is a huge blow to them, because they begin to question their own capabilities and how western tech will work no matter who the controller is, a WASP or a troony - it makes no difference.
I've often thought this. Those old time Euros were stone killers, and a return to the bad old days would be pretty dire. And this time instead of competing with each other the Euros are all working together.
Let me let you in on a secret: The current-day Euros are no different, they're just playing by the rules because burning down their own continent twice in 30 years was a bit too much fun, so nobody really wants to start another round of that. But if some dumb motherfricker were to do it? Yeah, uh, that's not gonna end well for anyone involved, I think.
I don't think they'd be European colonies, more likely they'd be US vassal states but who knows, weirder shit has happened
>more likely they'd be US vassal states
They got the offer, they didn't want to be US vassals.
The nazis existed for barely a decade and were small potatoes compared to the European empires of antiquity.
I agree with you, anon.
The meme stands, though : angering europeans to the point where they forget their principles was never a smart move.
But look at the destruction they wreaked before going down. Same during WW1. Even with basically the whole west blockading them and a huge brain drain because of nazi persecution, the frickers still managed to build some stupidly deadly weapons and clever tactics. Now just imagine what they could do with the industrial might of the US behind them for a change.
They'd probably invent some tech to remotely disable nukes, just to be able to make a spinoff of the Battle of Berlin in Moscow.
>the European empires of antiquity
Not that hard when population density back then was basically "no one/km2". Just look at even modern R*ssia to see how few people you'd actually have to defeat to conquer something like a fifth of the Earth.
They think they'd win this time because euros look a bit gay.
Somehow forgetting that last time they got b***hslapped the euros were wearing pantyhose and frilly coats
And the time before that, the Greeks and Romans were doing gay buttsex on the regular
Are there actually any Europeans left in Europe?
You tell us, Amerimutt. With the powers of your 56% white heritage you will no doubt be able to discern the number of remaining Europeans in Europe.
Nice projection
> The number of people residing in an EU Member State with citizenship of a non-member country on 1 January 2021 was 23.7 million, representing 5.3 % of the EU population.
Still very European
Compered that to Russias 10% Muslims and the US 13% Blacks, this one doesn't look so bad, especially since 1 million of them are from the UK
Maybe we look a bit gay but in a big fish eat small fish world we would be the prison kind of gay, and I don't think Russia would appreciate that very much.
look at the losses of mugabes men vs. the rhodesians in 15 years of bush war, the rhodies fought mostly with ww2 gear except helis and fals. no tanks, outnumbered, outgunned, landlocked.
yet a kinda 1:1000 difference in kill/death ratio in favour of the rhodies.
mugabe and nkomo had everything material wise AND us/brit spies inside the rhodie military, but this dindnt keep them from being mowed down every time in armed clashes.
now make your estimations with a modern western army vs. 3d world nepotism gangs they call a military
>this would immediately result in them all becoming European colonies again
No, they have enough WMDs to prevent this
can't use wmd's if there is nobody to use them
based and europilled
>Vatnik suggesting that The West will just "give up" if their fuel supply is threatened.
Remember the last time a tinpot dictator monkeyed with The West's fuel supply?
Remember how that fricker ended up?
PIC FRICKING RELATED.
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Oh man can't wait for xuilo photo like that when he decides to only way to save himself from russian lynching is to piss on NATO cornflakes and attack one of its country's to save face
Ironic, considering how the summer with it's lack of mud everywhere was supposed to enable the russian army to move everywhere they want and with that to be the end of Ukraine.
This
We have to wait until March 2022 to use that line of argument, though :
For now, the Russians could still attempt something until October.
But if Ukraine and its backers are still standing by next Spring, the cat is out of the box :
Russia's military will be exposed as a joke, except for its nukes.
Russia's main export, fuel, will be exposed as having no weight on Europe's internal politics.
Russia's diplomatic influence will be exposed as close to inexistent.
Ah, so winter is the new cope. I have to admire the ability of russians to keep coming up with more and more ridiculous coping mechanisms.
>Winter is soon....ticktock...
Yep, and russia will get worn down and decimated just like the nazis did.
4 more months?
trust the plan?
Jeez, I've seen some hamfisted vatnik memes but this one takes the cake
this one was favorite Vatnik-kun meme during 2nd and 3rd months of a war but fallen off later in use. Funny how Russia has to resort to dragging out old stocks of meme just like they do with everything else
shit, what was it?
>please ignore Black Sea Fleet transport capabilities
this aged well
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/03/ukraine-strikes-alligator-class-lst-with-ballistic-missile/
>people replying to simpsons gay
>AGAIN
It's like you didn't learn shit in these 6 months
He's just trolling anyway, why waste time replying to him
>Chinese Foreign Ministry: 85% of the world's population has not imposed sanctions against Russia.
>"Only the majority represent the international community," a spokesman for the ministry wrote.
So le epic sanctions regime is fricking the eurocucks, meanwhile the russians get transhipments of whatever they want anyway, paid for by eurocuck ruble payments for russian energy. Ycmtsu
NOOOOOO banderastan bros not like this!
>we don't NEED 70% of our gas market, the rest of the world stands with us!
>AHHHHHH Burundi help me
Lmao
It's nice to see all those countries with high AIDS prevalence stand strong together.
The POC (POzzed Coalition) stands strong against the evil nazi Wect.
Fricking hell. Those are actually the poor and shitty countries even in Africa. The bottom of the barrel. Except SA I guess and Guinea maybe.
The shitskin hordes measuring in billions dont matter, you are not even human at all and can be barely considered sentient. The whites and honorary whites make up the world that matters. Simple as.
Now how much of the world GDP is imposing Russia? I'd say around 50%.
It's as if third world apes are irrelevant.
closer to 75% tbh senpai
Source?
>https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/organisations/g20
So no source? Thought so.
50% means russia gets full transhipments of whatever they want, paid for by eurocuck energy paid for in rubles of course
Le epic sanctions, a hilarious self own
This little Black person doesn't even know how sanctions work. Providing sanctioned goods to Russia exposes the companies or countries to sanctions too, moron.
Also gas and oil imports from Russia are dropping fast, while the cost of fossil fuels is going down. For example, Russian gas exports to the EU are down to 25% of what they were last year. Russia is getting fricked. As if Russians weren't already poor.
Actually, it means Russia loses access to the overwhelming majority of the world's markets, has to pay massive extra margins for any kind of transshipment deal (because evading sanctions is risky, so the people doing it demand premiums), sees its economy crumble by 4%+ in just a quarter (and that's what they're willing to admit to, so reality is liable to be much worse), and the euros aren't actually paying in rubles outside of vatBlack person propaganda. When Gazprom bank exchanges the Euros they're paid in for rubles, that's not the Europeans paying in rubles. That's just a russian state-owned company exchanging currency at a fiat rate in Russia. Aka internal russian paper-pushing.
and the best bit is that Russia can't actually spend the EUR/USD they earn on selling gas to Europe - since their imports are completely fricked!
Nominal, over 40%, PPP, over 30%. However that includes Russia's largest export market.
As of last year, according to the World Bank, nominal gross world product was around 96.000 billions.
Out of this :
USA were about 23.000 billions
EU was about 17.000 billions
Japan was about 4.900 billions
UK was about 3.200 billions
Canada was about 2.000 billions
Australia was about 1.500 billions
Hence about 51.600 billions our of 96.000 billions.
53,75% of the world is actively preparing to live without Russia before eventually carving it up.
Problem is, said 15% are both the wealthiest parts of it and main trading partners for Russia
>paid in rubles
Are Russians capable of not lying in a single fricking sentence? You’re truly completely broken.
Oh right, they pay in Euros to a Russian bank to convert them to Rubles to pay for the product. Totally different thing.
It akchually is. Euros pay Gazprom bank in euro what Gazprom then does with the euros Russia can't use, is non of their concern.
No, it is not the same. If they could pay in Euros, they wouldn't need to convert money before paying for the product and the Ruble would devalue because nobody would trade in it. Not to mention the dropping value of the € makes them pay more.
>Not to mention the dropping value of the € makes them pay more.
Prices are in euros so if the euro value drops russians are actually getting less money
That would work if the Europeans had long-term contracts. But they don't.
...they do (for gas).
This is WHY Europe keeps paying in Euros because these contracts were negotiated for payments in Euro.
No, the eurocucks pay in rubles now, or no gas.
With the price tripled, russians make out at even 1/3 the sold volume.
Outside of vatBlack person fantasies, the "eurocucks" called Putins bluff and kept paying in Euros. And little Vlad pussed out like a b***h and kept sending the gas.
And gas prices have been going down. Not only that, but the rising prices aren't actually doing anything because it's all old long-term contracts that go by the old prices. Rising prices would be good for Russia if they could get new sales contracts, but they can't because sanctions.
Russian gas sale income has cratered by more than 40% compared to last year already, and that's just the beginning. Deal with it, vatBlack person.
No, gas prices have tripled and Russia is taking even more cash from the eurocucks... in rubles, or no gas forthcoming.
>it's all old long-term contracts
Demonstratably false.
Literally true you Black person
>But they don't
The gas contracts run for fricking decades what are you talking about?
Yeah, just too bad the Europeons specifically refused to sign long term contracts. Something about ending reliance on Russian resources, becoming green, etc. That's why prices were already high before the February invasion, because they were dictated by current market conditions and not long term contracts.
Because Europe is just smart like that.
>Europe is just smart
Kek, smart enough to pay the russians to slaughter hohols. Or freeze this winter if they dont.
Have any of you contemptible vatnigs ever looked at the average winter temperatures in central Europe? And do you know about this thing called "insulation"? Probably not, given that you Snow Nigerians probably live in huts made of baked goat shit or something but it's this nifty boon of civilization that allows houses to passively keep out heat in the summer and retain warmth in the winter.
In my bedroom for instance temperatures won't drop below 15°C even in the dead of winter with -10°C outside (itself an usual temperature here) and zero heating as long as I'm inside. Literally all I have to do to not freeze to death is to avoid falling asleep naked in a snow drift. In my room all I'd need to stay cozy is wear a sweater. The only Europeans who are gonna freeze (let alone to death) this winter are gonna be drunks who pass out in sub-zero temperatures, like always.
Man, R*ssians really cannot into modern amenities. The washing machines and flush toilets were only the tip of the iceberg.
It's the new narrative they've been told to spam all over internet. Hurr durr europeans freeze to death because electricity expensive.
Well, guess I should be thankful that they chose something so self-evidently false then.
>because nobody would trade in it
Son I....
Can anybody post ruble trade volumes please?
Top
Fricking
Zozzle
Speaking about clueless
Reduction of ~ 80%
:^)
March graphic
Kek. Ruble is doing splendidly, lad. Your currency is not. Well, USD is fine, but eurocucks are getting assraped.
So how is that stupendous Kherson offensive coming?
ok, just tell me why RUB is up so much
i just want to hear a vatBlack person's explanation kek
Kek, try getting these globohomoists in here to get this. Frick these people are dumb.
>85% of the world's population has not imposed sanctions against Russia
OK. How much of the world GDP are those? Like 10%? MAybe 15%?
You realize price of a barrel of oil is dropping fast I hope ? No one will be buying it from Russia soon...
There’s like two pipelines that go into China and everything else goes into Europe.
And those eastern pipelines do not link up with the euro-side ones, use different pressures and different (shittier) tech. The whole "we'll just sell to China!!1!!1" bullshit is another empty cope..
Russia is so big. Do you know we have Uganda?
>Russia is so big. Do you know we have Uganda
Uganda's accounting for about ~90% of the country.
Best part with all of russian minions who claim Europe will freeze this winter forget. If europe stops paying for the gas 90% russian gdp goes down the drain. I for one hope russia will cut gas to Germany, as this would result in russia finally seizing to be relevant in global stage.
Now that the bridge is gone, what does that mean for supply routes?
do the vatBlack folk realise basically no one in europe is worried about winter? Just pissed we will have to buy more expensive imports.
If it came down to a life or death situation, Russia would face genocide, your army is shit. And if we were to "freeze in winter" and "die while our society collapses" nukes stop being a threat, did you oversight all of this vatBlack personians?
Railway lines are designed to be easily fixable. Whatever made up attack on Crimea you're talking about, Russia can fix it in a week.
All the more reason for my country to continue to supply Ukraine with ranged weaponry and ammunition
Rail junctions and bridges are not easy or quick to repair. Don't talk about things you have no knowledge of.
>Whatever made up attack on Crimea you're talking about, Russia can fix it in a week.
Imagine saying that with a straight face on the sixth month of the 3-day special operation.
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Our source in the OP told Insider that the President's Office is trying to clean up all competitors on the political landscape of the country. Bankova is well aware that the West is used to promoting its interests through a competing political system, under Poroshenko there was Yatsenyuk, plus a group of piglets. Technologists of the President's Office believe that the United States can prepare Zaluzhny as a competitor to Zelensky in the future, so that there is an alternative center of influence. Already, "markers" are noticeable in the Western press – the positive image of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is purposefully fueled, and criticism of Zelensky is growing.
Frick off you shitty, non-English speaking bot.
This doesn’t bring back any of the thousands of dead Russian soldiers killed
If a country is invaded and resists then the lives of it's citizens are going to be put in danger by the nature of that decision. It must setup bases wherever it needs to be defended.
For the Ukrainian citizens to be safe Russia has to simply stop attacking. Ukraine could even shell their own people on accident and the blame still belongs with Russia.
If anyone knows how to deny a population central heating, it's Mother Russia.
They'll come for our plumbing next.
>They'll come for our plumbing next.
oh no, not the poles!
Love how the cope went from
>2 more days
>2 more weeks
>2 more months
Now at 2 more seasons, can't wait for "2 more decades and Russia will recover from its economic crisis and frick you up!" cope
History repeats itself, but the Europeans are stepping on the old rake, obediently following the suicidal policy of sanctions imposed on them by behind-the-scenes puppeteers, to whom the entire EU leadership has sold out.
Let me remind you that 80 years ago, the main goal of US participation in the war was not so much the fight against Hitler's Germany and militaristic Japan, as the collapse of the British Empire. And they succeeded: in 1943, Britain was forced to give permission to the United States to trade directly with its previously closed colonies, having lost its influence in these territories. In addition, taking advantage of the poor economic situation of the British after the war, the Americans easily imposed their conditions and gained access to a number of English and German high technologies.
Similarly, in this situation, although this trend is diligently hushed up by Washington, the main target for the strike is not so much Russia, or even China, as the economy of the EU countries in order to deceive and eliminate a competitor. A number of technologies and production facilities left without cheap Russian energy resources, Europeans will be forced to move to the United States, since they have no road to Russia and China for political reasons imposed by the same Americans.
The real question is whether you think Asgore did anything wrong.
Well Russia has showed that leaning on Russia just causes Russia to abuse you harder.
LMAO.
If collapsing the British Empire was the goal in WWII, all the yanks would have had to do was lean back, keep it at Cash&Carry and watch the fireworks. The moment the war broke out and Britain had to lean heavily on the colonies again was already the deathknell of the Empire.
Also, you're an idiot. The strength of the EU's economy isn't in cheap energy or low wages ,it's in a superbly educated and trained workforce and highly-specialised industries that aren't found anywhere else on the planet. And nobody will be "forced to move to the United States" outside vatBlack person delusions.
Also, better the Americans than fricking Russia.
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Our source in the OP said that Erdogan brought a message from Putin, in which we are actually given an ultimatum. If the President's Office refuses to return to negotiations, then Russia will hold referendums in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, after which it will include them in Russia and will already be ready to use nuclear weapons to protect its territories.
>we are gonna nooooook
Lol Ukraine bombed Russia territory several times already and they just coped
Nuking Ukraine would be so stupid, I can think of no better way to make NATO go to war against Russia. Alternatively Ukraine might be gifted the same capabilities by the west.
The strikes in Crimea show this as an empty threat.
And Belgorod, and that refinery hit by a suicide drone.
Gas transit via Nord Stream is to be halted by the way 🙂
>/k/
>thread about logistics
>160 posts
>open it
>160 posts of derailing /k/ into /misc/
>sigh
>close the thread
Show me more discipline next time, /k/tards.
Can't have competent conversation about it. The poltards just slide every thread into shit flinging.
It does not just slide shit. They know their narratives work only in 100- IQ level discussions. If you get fricked by X in a discussion, make X inappropriate for a discussion.
This whole problem could be fixed by range banning anyone who posts on /misc/ from posting of any other board.
it's incredible when you realize Ukraine could end this pointless war with their unconditional surrender. Ukraine has always been within the Russian sphere of influence (check the history books on this one). It's more natural for them to be under Russia's guidance. Your average Ukrainian who doesn't spend their entire day on Twitter considers Russia not only an ally but something of a big brother.
it's incredible when you realize Russia could end this pointless war with their unconditional surrender. Russia has always been within the American sphere of influence (check the history books on this one). It's more natural for them to be under America's guidance. Your average Russian who doesn't spend their entire day on Twitter considers America not only an ally but something of a big daddy.
>it's incredible when you realize you're actually completely moronic, but looks like you're pretty far away from it atm. keep trying though, it'll be worth it.
let me break it down for you idiots with a source. there is a fricking reason when you looking at the Ukraine page on Wikipedia the word "Russia" is mentioned 169 times. That's because Ukraine has always been in Russia's sphere of influence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_of_influence
Yeah, this is why Russia took Kiev, oh wait.
They could take it any day. They are simply battle testing gear and doctrines. They'll wrap up the war any day now.
>we didn't even try lol
>we can take Kiev in two days
>we just don't want to
Tszar copium
If Russia has to go to war to impose control of Ukraine then that means they are no longer part of their "sphere"
only because of imperialist interference
The same imperialists that effectively finance russia through gas purchases, and the same imperialists that allowed russia to end the USSR (something which most russians want and benefited from) and the same imperialists that wanted russia to wall off chechnya and ban muslims from entering russia (again, something the vast majority of russians support). Russia today would not exist without western imperialism, they'd be stuck in the 60s as a north korean tier isolation state without participation from US and European markets. Such is why Russia is part of ITER, which uses a Russian design imposed on the "imperialists" for five decades now.
If this imperialism is so bad Russia can sanction the west and be done with it. Instead, it's the west that's doing the sanctioning. It's clear who wears the pants in this relationship.
Spheres of influence are imperialism. So if at all it's more like anti-imperialist interference.
>those tabs
... why do you have "BBC pov porn video" as one of your tabs?
hush that doesn't mean what i said isn't right.
BWAHAHAHA! The fricking thirdie memes are real!
hello newfren
excellent bait, chapeau
>That's because Ukraine has always been in Russia's sphere of influence.
not anymore lol
Literally asking BBC to cuck your russian men
And Russia is in Mongolia's sphere of influence.
Beautiful bait lad. I enjoyed the show.
John from Oregano Oblast here, am much of agree. Ukraine should be under Rissian rule.
>Ukraine should be under Rissian rule.
Yes. This! Glad people on nu-/k/ aren't completely stupid.
it's incredible when you realize you're actually completely moronic, but looks like you're pretty far away from it atm. keep trying though, it'll be worth it.
Ukrainian life was shit under the Russian sphere of influence because Russia was always the abusive brother who would beat you regularly whenever he had a bad day.
Banderastan has massively depopulated since the USSR dissolved. And since Feb, another 6M have left. It's almost half what it used to be.
I guess the hohols don't agree with you.
Funny how none of them are going to Russia, why are they moving in with perfect strangers instead of moving in with their supposed loving Brothers?
At least 2M went to russia. You appear ignorant of all this. Why post from ignorance, shill?
>went
>willingly
>implying families weren't broken up, children abducted, and Ukrainians scattered to the Siberian winds as part of an attempt to destroy their culture and identity
Your next response is "proofs?"
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=russia+abducting+civilians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification
There's so much to support the idea that I might as well just link you a google search and that wikipedia page, which is very relevant. You can look through the myriad reports and the sources given on the wiki page if you're interested. I highly doubt you are, though. You're likely more interested in screeching about trannies and israelites. Bottom line is that there's absolutely no reason to not believe that Russia has engaged in this behaviour on a scale that would account for the figure that you've offered, especially considering it's been part of their MO for literal centuries, right up to the present day.
>At least 2M went to russia
Majority already escaped to Georgia
Yeah that's because the USSR could only keep people in at gunpoint, funny how when the guns disappeared everyone wanted to get as far as frick away from Russia as possible.
No wonder it depopulated, look how close it is to Russia, with neighbors like Russia only people would stay are the people who couldn't leave.
They fled and are still fleeing Banderstan. Deal with it.
I'm pretty sure that Russia, US and UK all agreed upon sovereignty and integrity of Ukraine borders in exchange for it nukes in Budapest Memorandum and in Helsinki Accords. Russians signed upon that documents 100% agreeing with their terms that all nations are officially abandoning territorialexpansiontroughuse of military force. But Russians cannot be trusted to respect any kind of treaty, and their word is worth less than paper they signed.
US led a violent overthrow of the democratically elected govt, so best look to them as the violators, lad.
So you mean all of the native Ukrainians protesting in Kyiv were all CIA glowies, when the CIA take over Ukraine the 70s?
Funny thing is the US initially supported Yanukovych because 'muh order' and all that, until it became clear that there would be no way for the guy to remain as a president without pulling a Tiananmen (if he could even do so in the first place).
>the guy to remain as a president without pulling a Tiananmen
funny is that fricks like you believe Tiananmen happened. more funny is that bawd like you is thinking that US embassy in Ukraine was even trying to support the Yanukovich instead to call him in 4 morning and tell him that one call at russian embassy for help and they will pull out another 10 assasinations of his relatives all around the Ukraine. dumbfrick. during "negotiations" with Yanukovich USA killed over 15 different relatives and friends of Yanukovich. Many negotiators he send into districts, were found in cars rigged with bullets (CIA assassinated in 3 month over 25 negotiators and around 600 men, who were guarding them) as the head of Secret Service Valentyn Nalyvaichenko got gifted by USA a whole fricking skyscraper in New York worth 500 million dollars with a view at central park. his daughter got 3 flats worth 30 million dollars in Miami, LA and New York.
in Lviv district polish Special forces crossed the border and executed 22 local activists, who were opposing the maidanecs and their nazi horde by blocking local roads.
you know fricking nothing you shit eating sack of joo.
NTA but what actually happened in tiananmen, there’s literally zero evidence of hundred of thousands of deaths from solders hip firing AKs into student crowds. NSA cable contradicted news claims made and there are only handful of families harassed and put hinder watch by the ccp. Famous tank clip literally show it stopped for the man, shocking. Is this the biggest psychop in history and US buttfricked ccp for decades? It always blow my mind.
>of hundred of thousands of deaths
Who ever made that claim, morono?
its literally called a massacre and what people believe moron, at least in the ten thousands, or severe enough to warrant isolating and sanctioning the entire country for decades to slow their rise.
What?
Not that anon but most people I spoke with tend to err on the lower side, thinking that the Chinese shot a couple hundred students at best
Probably because that's more than enough for the massacre moniker in the west, frick sometimes even a few dozen is enough
>Probably because that's more than enough for the massacre moniker in the west, frick sometimes even a few dozen is enough
Yet another example of the discrepancy in perceived value of human life between nations. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
/x/ is a couple boards down that way, schizo.
You need your meds.
Any protest that isn't in favour of ruskies is le CIA glowie operation
I mean yes we have but not in this particular case. Russia invading Donbass in 2014 did more than the US ever could.
It's non-binding, unfortunately, hence a memorandum instead of a treaty.
fine speech
>Your average Ukrainian who doesn't spend their entire day on Twitter considers Russia not only an ally but something of a big brother.
now thats over mate, innit
Yes I am Taras from Kiev oblast, am completely of agreeings big brother. Please liberate me Russian passport shovel blini
> considers Russia not only an ally but something of a big brother
This was false even in the 90s.
And now you've gone and made sure there's ethnic Russians swearing to raise their children as Russophobes.
I’m getting tired of explaining reality to you people.
Biden won’t use hard power, so he went with soft power when it became clear how weak Russia was militarily. It was a pretty extravagant display of soft power, but it didn’t force Putin to change course. The reason for that is because Russia is an oil(gas) state. The power structure is based on Putin’s circle of energy oligarchs and the huge sums of money they earn and steal from it. That pays for the corruption which rules the government. The oligarchs are basically crooks who are transforming into a new royalty class who set up inheritance wealth and corporate leadership roles in the energy sector (and others like media, agriculture, etc) complete with palaces and serfs. Their roots though are in the crime world. They don’t spend their enormous hydrocarbon wealth on developing the Russian economy. So, unless you shut down their hydrocarbon trade you won’t cause serious harm, certainly not enough to make them change. The problem is, it;s IMPOSSIBLE to easily and quickly replace Russian energy. So, the one sector which could seriously harm Putin is left open. Therefore Putin can continue the war without facing serious consequences to his power structure. The West can’t just pull the plug on Russian gas because that would be economic suicide for Germany, the industrial heartland of Europe.
>The power structure is based on Putin’s circle of energy oligarchs
The oligarchs have been pushed out of power for years. Putin's powerbase are the siloviki. The oligarchs are allowed to be corrupt rich buttholes so long as they do what Putin tells them to do, else they get axed.
>it;s IMPOSSIBLE to easily and quickly replace Russian energy
Sure doesn't look that way with how hard Russia's oil and gas sales are already cratering a mere 6 months in.
Slight correction: The german government isn't preparing. They've long since finished most preparations. It needs to be told every time: The biggest measure for heating that's actually being discussed by the german government now? It's wether they should mandate that public spaces ought to be heated to only 19°C instead of 21°C this winter.
And even the industrial situation is overblown by this point.
And another thing: freezing Europe. That’s bull and a non-issue, no one is freezing in the winter, the German government is already preparing storage for gas, and if it actually got bad the EU and US would do what it took to make sure people had heating. That’s not the issue, just something that can translate well in propaganda. The real issue is that German industry is UNIQUELY and ESPECIALLY reliant on gas. If they don’t get gas input they DIE. Even if the EU, for example, put together a bail-out fund to cover for Germany’s collapsed industry — that industry is still dead. No one is going to hold onto dead equipment and skilled workforces, those will be shut down, sold as scrap and the workforce laid off. Customers will source products from Asia and that industry will NEVER come back.
Yeah that's the issue. You can't just switch off heavy industries and then turn them back on. That shit will need to be replaced. Hence why getting new gas sources is so important (important enough that fracking has been brought up again over here) to keep the machine running.
Okay if this is true, how soon can we expect results (Kherson offensive)?
more trouble for russian logistics ahead
Why is the line north of Kharkiv strait instead of following the border?
>Why is the line north of Kharkiv strait instead of following the border?
There's no fighting further up north. No point in calculating that. Ukraine is not going to risk attacking from there & opening a new front, I presume?
Explain pls, am moronic.