>No duty to retreat. >But prosecution can still repeatedly hammer you about why you didn't retreat

>No duty to retreat
>But prosecution can still repeatedly hammer you about why you didn't retreat
>Juror than admits part of the why he was convicted was because he could have left
Wait, what the frick does this mean for self-defense? Are all these states with stand your ground laws completely bogus and a jury will still hear about all the ways you could have retreated even if you had no duty to?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick ya mudda

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pedophiles get the rope

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. No matter how le based you think your state is, your fate is ultimately in the hands of 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I thought Stand Your Ground laws meant the prosecution couldn't even hint at asking why you didn't retreat, just like how they can't hint at asking why you wanted a lawyer before talking to the cops

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your right to remain silent and invoke presence of counsel are constitutional rights. Stand your ground is just a statute that varies by state and is subject to judicial realism and the unfortunate reality that

        Yes. No matter how le based you think your state is, your fate is ultimately in the hands of 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

        points out. A jury is never made up of your peers; it's a group of idiots handpicked by attorneys to favor one argument or the other
        >t. defense attorney
        I mostly do DUI's btw i don't frick with cases like this

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >A jury is never made up of your peers; it's a group of idiots

          thats what peers are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Speak for yourself numbnuts

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I mostly do DUI's btw i don't frick with cases like this
          Where did you frick up your career to get to that point?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm in an SEC college town. You have any idea how many fricking DUI's there are around here every month? Every time a client comes in& takes a plea that's $3k right in my pocket. More if they don't want to plea. Most of them are paid for by their parents anyways. Easy easy money, and I don't have to work 60+ hours per week like a lot of people i graduated law school with

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds a little too good to be true. What's the downside?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the downside is you have to go to law school, anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Downside is all my clients are dipshits, which means all day I have to talk to dipshits. Also I'm respected only slightly more than ambulance chasers. But in reality it's not bad at all. Help somebody with their DUI, they remember me down the road when they have some other issues or just have basic legal needs. I write the occasional will and handle other probate stuff sometimes. I never touch divorces those are too messy and clients will call you at like 10pm on a Saturday to complain about their soon-to-be-ex witholding the kids or some bs like that.
                Oh and debt from law school tuition. That's a pretty damn big downside but I'm on track to knock it out

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                forever inferior to chemical patent chads

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Facts. Also the lawyers who work for the likes of J.G. Wenthworth (companies that purchase the rights to structured settlements and annuities) all they have to do is print out long ass contracts, get the client to sign it, show up to municipal court with the client, then boom. $20k-$30k per month.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Too stupid
      I'm in line for it atm. Someone's gotta do it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

      holy shit never thought about it like that. that's disturbing, and the only thing more troubling would be that it's people who WANT to be on jury duty. both are a severe liability.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Americans have a right, not obligation, for trial by jury. You can choose to have trial by judge if you so choose.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. No matter how le based you think your state is, your fate is ultimately in the hands of 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

        This is why I make sure to get on any jury for a criminal trial to make sure criminals like OP's image, OP and everyone who thinks like him get put behind bars because they're clearly murderers just looking for the opportunity to get away with it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I’m a zoomer and I’m glad he gutted that gay like a fish.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Drunks are some of the scum of the earth, this is a fact transcending generations.
            Lotta blood spilled for no reason, case in point
            Lotta people killed for no reason thanks to drunk drivers

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Lotta people killed for no reason thanks to drunk drivers
              If you know any this anon can help them out

              Your right to remain silent and invoke presence of counsel are constitutional rights. Stand your ground is just a statute that varies by state and is subject to judicial realism and the unfortunate reality that [...] points out. A jury is never made up of your peers; it's a group of idiots handpicked by attorneys to favor one argument or the other
              >t. defense attorney
              I mostly do DUI's btw i don't frick with cases like this

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You could make an argument that the fact that he didn't retreat proves he wasn't really afraid. But my issue is that this was in a river. You really don't want to blindly walk backwards in a river. And you also don't want to turn your back on a violent mob that's accusing you of raping little girls. So I don't think retreating was as much of an option as they claim.
    idk, I think there are things he could have done differently but the Zoomers really fricked up. They thought it was all just one big joke and didn't realize how serious it is when you form a lynch mob around a man and accuse him of trying to rape little girls. And then they decided to be macho white knights when he pushed a woman away from him.
    >Is this real? Is this real?
    yes, Zoomer, it is real. The Boomer is in jail but your friend is still dead because you thought forming a lynch mob to accuse an innocent man of being a pedophile was a fun prank.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The Boomer is in jail but your friend is still dead because you thought forming a lynch mob to accuse an innocent man of being a pedophile was a fun prank.

      are you just talking his side because hes old and the people attacking him were young?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing that matters is what jurisdiction you're in

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let this be a lesson to all amerimutts
    Never relax around Romanians, moreso than blacks

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Get surrounded by amped up teenagers
    >Get pushed repeatedly into water (Risk of hitting his head and drowning, or risk of getting drowned by said attackers)
    >Accused of raping children, now you have a mob of teens/people a quarter of your age accusing you of being a pedophile.
    >Cant escaped due to it being a river, can’t turn your back on the rabid mob.
    >Defend yourself.
    >Get sent to prison.

    What an absolute travesty of the American justice system.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why did he get accused of raping a child? thats not something that happens very often.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He ran over to them, tripped and accidentally groped one of them dudes on the tubes. This is the most charitable interpretation of facts and what he himself argued in court.

        The uncharitable interpretation is that he ran over with his hand feeling for his knife in his pocket, grabbing the dude to intimidate/harass and then literally told them he was looking for little girls when they asked him what the frick he was doing searching through the water around them

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Deadly force is always a last resort.
    Escape if you are able, and the threat level is not yet life-threatening.
    Getting roughed up does not qualify as life-threatening.
    Also reciprocity of a perceived threat is justified. If the person attacking you has knife, you are justified in stabbing them without running. If the person attacking you has a gun, you are justified in shooting them.
    Remember; It's not the law you have to worry about. It's public perception.
    Do everything you can to look like the clear victim.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't really follow this case outside of knowing the basics, but I would never want someone with wounds like that taking the stand against me. That's going to horrify most jurors and make you look like Freddy Krueger. He'd have been better off if he shot them. Lesson learned about defending yourself with a knife.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >approaches random group of teens, saying nothing
    >starts messing with their shit and grabbing people
    >walks away
    >walks back
    >stands there like a moron
    >pulls out knife before any physical altercation
    >pushes the girl first
    >kills 1, maims 4
    >HIDES THE KNIFE AND LIES TO POLICE
    There's literally no way you can be on this fat moron's side if you actually watch the video and look at the facts of the case.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ITP: LIES

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        makes a lot more sense than a bunch of teens randomly approaching a guy and calling him a pedophile for no reason.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Does it? Seems like something me& the boys would've done back in the day

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Seems like something me& the boys would've done back in the day

            anon that is psychopath behavior, even for a kid. no wonder life has led you to PrepHole, defending a sketchy guy who cut up a bunch of teenagers

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you can watch the videos yourself moron

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