Frick this piece of shit garbage optic. It’s the second sight that turned to absolute shit. Their magnifiers have been okay so far but frick everything about their sights.
Nice, my eotech lens started delaminating.
Frick this piece of shit garbage optic. It’s the second sight that turned to absolute shit. Their magnifiers have been okay so far but frick everything about their sights.
>buying chinese knockoffs
>expecting it to be good
It’s an original product. They ask for $80 to repair it. Frick them. I was never treated like that by a Chinese company.
If it's still in warranty they can frick off. If it's not, well, go try the Chinese knock offs instead, I guess. Might as well see how they stack up.
what is the DOM?
11/2020
I just googled around a bit and that shit happens frequently to their optics in varying degrees. Frick them.
That's utter fricking shit. I hope this makes the rounds if true.
Go full Karen on them on Twitter about it.
Im not some gay leftist.
I use them together with night vision. I also like their magnifiers and bought both of them in sets. The optic itself is not bad for what I use it for, its just that this is the second lemon I got. The first one had a gap that allowed me to see the insides.
Customer service is dogshit, I agree.
The military uses a different HWS, not the one available commercially. Its called M231 (the magnifier is the M33). These are actually tested to military standards. The commercial products are most likely all consumer grade lemons. See picrel
Did I accidentally blame SIG?
Show proof that it's a real eotech.
Then show us where they said they want $80 to repair it.
Not going to post pics of the serial. Go believe its not a real one and your most favorite company cant frick up. I dont care.
>Not going to post pics of the serial.
Why not?
Cover the last 2 digits if you want or whatever.
anon you being so hesitant to show a full pic of your optic is pretty weird.
why would you lie about something so easily searchable moron? The SU-231A is the fricking DESIGNATION for the Eotech EXPS-3
Are you stupid? What do I lie about? The military gets another optic. You get the SU-231A, which is obvious consumer grade trash plagued by problems.
denied, 4/10 for making me fall for it the first time
eokek has been flat out dogshit since they changed the logo
it's the other way around
>They ask for $80 to repair it.
Kek, well you get what you pay for.
>$80
Damn son. How old is it?
Not buying chinkshit, horosun shill
go back to china
we all know that any product built post 2000 would be covered. you either have chineseum or a fossil.
thanks satan, but I'm buying holosun
They're supposedly not repairing anything pre-2009, paid or not anymore.
So here's the thing
I'm just not gonna buy chinkshit
I know
I knoooooooowwww
I'm just not gonna buy chinkshit
BWAHAHAHAH
Hello Chang
Frick off Black person israelite
poor?
Part and parcel of living in a tolerant multicultural society.
Eotech is shit, I'm an armorer and have seen countless eotechs fail under normal use scenarios including delamination, collimator failures, electronics failures, and anything in between. You know what I've only seen fail once? An aimpoint, and the optic was likely 12 years old at the point of failure.
Same. Only aimpoints I ever see dead-lined have been basically smushed or slammed into something hard enough to break the battery compartment end caps or housing. Those things are tanks. Same with the ACOG's, literally had one that got run over on asphalt by an LMTV after the rifle was left leaning against a tire and wasn't even damaged other than the finish and a little gouging. No impairment of functions.
>Their magnifiers have been okay so far
Yea because the chinks made it
Eotech is a has been. Like S&W. Wrap your head around it.
Why does anyone but that overpriced shit? Just get cheap shit like Holosun and a Sig Romeo.
>why does everyone buy overpriced screws when they could just buy nails?
So here's the thing
I'm still not buying chinkshit
I'm just... I'm just not gonna buy chinese.
AHAHAHAHAHA
Shoulda bought European, when you buy optics made in the third world you're going to get nothing but shit.
>buying eotech
>ever
just buy a fricking t2 and stop trying to larp like you're special forces with a stupid shitty heavy optic with bad battery life
absolute trash optics idk why people keep fricking buying them
Looks cool
yea i only use holosun
if only you bought a holosun
this is such an obvious larp and /k/ is the most moronic and easily baited board
The OP image is clearly not OP's "eotech".
Eotech's warranty is five years from DOM, no fee for repairs, after five years, you pay a certain amount of the cost.
There is no fricking way two years in they refused him.
How much would you sell it for?
>wearing gloves indoors
Something about your hands you don't want to share anon? Give it back.
I'm sorry, but Mr. Haaren is firing you after this.
Post hologram.
Like this:
Now you do it OP.
What is this even going to prove?
Kek, the last line of defense. See picrel, I am certainly whiter than you, Mohammed.
>What is that going to prove?
Are you ok moron?
Also when you google Eotech Delamination you get hundreds of results, all with the same issue. Eotech is trash, deal with it.
Yean, eokek people a still in denial and k/oping
>Yean
>glove suddenly off
>no timestamp
doubt
You are right. It is yet another poster with a delaminating eotech.
Nice fake eotech. You're going to have to work on your marketing chang.
homie wearing gloves LMAO
Pic related, OP a nig.
Why are you black
You were proven wrong so please have a nice day.
Is it the coating delaminating from the lens or two lenses delaminating from each other? How old and how many rounds has it experienced? Also where do you live/what kind of climate?
I’ve had an Eotech exps for 6 years and shoot it a lot and now I’m paranoid, heh.
Had a 552 and xps2 both delaminate with minimal use and eotech pretty much told me tough shit -
Spitefully switched to vortex uh1gen2 and been happy with them so far
just don't expect good performance with nightvision lol
That is good performance though you dumbfrick. The eokeks just inches out but it's not a big deal like you'd like to exaggerate it to.
>uh1gen2
Inhave one as well. I just wish the reticle looked clearermlike an eokek
What is the actual point of buying these if you're not interested in passive aiming under nightvision? Literally everything I hear about them is bad, and eotech customer service is reportedly dogshit. They seem to be outclassed by a lot of shit in most use-cases by optics that are like half the price.
they're pretty good. Battery life doesn't matter, see all the gays who use LPVOs whose battery life on a usable setting is a few days.
1 MOA circle dot, extremely clear glass, no tint, no blur or slight magnification, lots of brightness settings for both day and night so each step up/down isn't too "coarse". Works great with magnifiers and at range because the 1 MOA dot is 1 MOA at 100, 2 MOA at 200, 3 at 300 etc, instead of a 2 MOA red dot being 2 MOA at 100, 4 at 200, etc.
Gets plenty bright for fighting on the surface of the sun or fighting under nods. Passes same MIL-STD-810C durability test for milspec. Proven to be actually, truly 0 MOA in parallax as opposed to 4.5 MOA of a T2 and 11 MOA of an MRO.
All in all - pretty good, it's just a trade off from a T2.
>11 MOA
Is that standard for that tier of optic? Seems pretty high.
the mro has some parallax issues that are worse on paper due to how wide the lens is. in reality you're never going to be looking at the dot ALLLL the way on the edge of the lens. its a great optic for the price (350 bucks used on ebay) and has the best light transmission for its price range.
The price seemed pretty decent for something that would seem pretty viable for passive aiming but the Hop review put me off of it for the longest time. I do keep hearing good things from around /k/ and other places though so I might just pick one up used and go for it.
the sage dynamics review is worth a watch if you want to see a proper demonstration of the parallax affect on accuracy.
Hell yes, thank you
Vortex or PA
want a 3x or 4x, pair with a 1x reflex - maybe open no tube at 45 degrees
Take the Holosunpill: https://youtu.be/uQ6RqG-LhlY?t=339
>tfw duty handgun is a p2022
I want to anon...but I can't.
Damn they couldn’t even get yall a 226? What backwoods hick department do you work for?
>not choosing the best sight
Go to be Derrick.
definitely better than a holosun when it comes to my assstickysyndrome but still comma'd a lil for me sadly
handled an acog today (cabelas) and they feel tough as a rock but that eye relief is some former soviet bloc shit
>falls from 2 feet.
>breaks
Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks please if you expect us to help you
Should have bought holosun if you want quality. Eokeks are a meme
Take the prism pill anon
You got it off Amazon of one of those shady r/gundeals sites, didn't you anon?
Or are you just posting a forum pic trying to shill holoshit?
see
Because they produce overpriced garbage that's prone to defects. Simping Eotech is femoid energy analogous to soys shilling apple products.
They dont' seem to want your money all that badly, so why support them when they routinely give out lemons according to OP?
fricking cope holy shit.
>Eocucks defending this shit in the thread
This has to be proof that companies shill their shitty products here right? You would have to be insane to actually defend this shit.
All I'm asking is for OP to prove what he's claiming.
Yeah looks fake.
Also OP hiding race is a dead giveaway.
0/10
The/k/ope in here, amazing.
>it’s not a real eotech
>it’s still not real
>OP could be a Black person therefore it’s not real
These threads where someone shits all over some /gq/ trash are just the best and most delicious.
not buying horosun
homie nobody gives a frick what you buy. You have a chink company living rent free in your head. Seek therapy or sex.
i'm not getting buying horosun ping-pong
Ok then buy Aimpoint?
>realizes he's caught when he tries to claim Eotech has two product lines when his claim can be debonked in five seconds
>screeches about shills
AHAHAHAHAA
makes me grateful to asia that they can sell me a higher quality optic at half the price that's not assembled by Black folk and methheads
oof, a blow below the belt
hey moron, don’t you know that special forces use them? shut the frick up, it’s fine
SF use a better version, you get all those commercial optics. Sorry bud.
>op is a literal Black person homosexual that bought a scuffed ebay eotech and is shilling for horosun
lmao
Dude, its the same optic. It has the exact same issue in the bottom right corner of the glass that OP described in the opening post. It even has the same white particles on it like in the opening post, all in the very same spot.
>this thread
>right after the anti eokek thread just finished 404'ing
im kinda sus bros
not eokek shill, but theres been no proof offered. pic unrelated
all this shit on /k/ lately makes me want to run eotech as a contrarian. if its such a bad optic, why shit on it so hard?? you shouldn't need to.
I'm sure it'll go great on your PSA
just ordered an EXPS3-0 because of these posts
I'm glad I could influence you to harm yourself.
i think ill have a good time.
>being a contrarian for no reason
Why? It's not 2007, optics have evolved but Eotech has not. Wasting money because of some random imageboard posts shouldn't be a point of pride. You zoomers are fricking insufferable.
ive yet to see another dot offer the same performance under magnification
>optics have evolved
How are other holosights better than EOTech?
They don't delaminate.
>The latest version of the only other holosight has only been out 2 years
?
>OP's Eotech was made in 2020
?
Based. Anything morons on this website tell you to do, do the opposite.
Sour grapes?
I got a 512 NIB for the same price as a "high end" Holosun last week.
This price is good for the quality you get (less than holosun). You will have a lot of fun with your commercial grade budget optic that will allow for range trips and light use.
>allow for range trips and light use
what about all the action they saw in OIF/OEF and Afghanistan?
Just like the g36? Much bendy, yet much action. Remember: Government + lowest corrupt bidder = your gear. They let Americans fight knowing full well their optics had a zero shift.
>Government + lowest corrupt bidder = your gea
Not how it works at all.
>They let Americans fight knowing full well their optics had a zero shift.
Right, that's why they sued Eotech and forced them to fix it when the problems were discovered.
I know you want to be cool and cynical, but nothing you think is real.
>the company that had no problems with me getting killed due to the defective gear they supply fixed it after years, so it’s okay
>defective
Literally every optic will see change in poi when it experiences environmental changes.
Yeah but the thing is they lied about it chief. They claimed their shit was not affected or if it was affected it was affected less than anyone else which was a lie. Frick you idiot.
The G36 trial HK won, AND the incident in question was POI shift AFTER *a 9 hour firefight in the heat of the afghan summer*
Wrong, you have been fake newsed by professional disinformation.
>Soldiers complain for years that the G36 has massive POI shift, even when left out in the sun in Europe.
>Shit blows up after a prolonged firefight in AFG with several German casulties.
>Government acknowledges the issue, says its HK fault.
>HK says its governments fault, the gun was build to their specification.
>It goes to court.
>court finds that HK build the gun exactly to government specification, the POI shift is a direct consequence of the design of the gun based on the specification of the government.
Its a shit design, the UMP is plagued by the same issue, because all these plastic fantastic guns have polymer at parts that get warm. The good thing is none of that is HKs fault. The government wanted it this way.
>paying that much for a 512
I never paid more than $300 for any of mine and they all have died and needed servicing or replacement within a year of purchase.
Anon I simply do not believe you
Dealer price for the 512 is $300, and we use a lot of 512s for our rental range.
Enjoy the flicker brought to you by their cheap inline with recoil battery housing.
Works on my 590a1 with slugs. Do you have more recoil than that?
I had a 512 and it was worse. Only took two range trips for it to begin shutting off with every shot. My primary arms microdot is more reliable.
I'm not a Chink shill, but you shouldn't have bought that. It's the one Eotech optic that's proven to be bad. Breaks with use and cost them millions in law suits and legal fees. A nice Vortex optic is better than that. Don't buy Holosun, don't trust Holosun true but Primary Arms makes the Micro Prism which is bomb proof and Vortex makes top line red dots with a lot of testing and batch inspections.
anything you Black folk say is "bomb proof" or reddit's favorite "gtg" (exclusively used by people who shoot 300 rounds a year) is a giant, screaming red flag
only eotech
the chinese don't make a true holographic sight
Is the UH-1 actually a hologram?
But no, chinks don't make holograms because holography is expensive and technically involved. There's no way to make a cheap hologram because it's a huge optical setup and uses bespoke materials.
Yes dipshit frick could you not spare 10 seconds to google that fricking lazy ignorant shits like you dont let ignorance stop them from speaking tons of shit
Should have bought an aimpoint, moron
I really liked mine when I had it. I was lucky. My reticle disappeared from the center of the sight right as their refund program went into effect. I sent it back to them and got the refund. I indicated that I might repurchase only when it was confirmed that the issue was fixed. I guess it has not. I'll stick with Aimpoint and Vortex.
Cope
not buying chinkshit
Chinkshit is better than an eokek, the seethe is real
not buying it wong-lu
The seethe continues
He said while posting on his all American parts made phone laptop desktop smart microwave or fridge. Fricking delusional frick, worrypre about the billions of your tax money the current administration is giving away than you spending 300 bucks to get a superior optic. Fricking idiot.
not buying chinkshit
Why you sound mad. Did whitu pigu hurt the feelings of the Chinese people?
wtf is that ?
So what are the lessons learned after this shit show of a thread? Never buy Eotech? What do I buy if I want the same features?
Lesson learned are: Never buy eotechs and just buy the holosun. Way better quality and function these days
>all the butthurt poorgays and chinkshit shills ITT
Sounds like something a user experiencing delamination would say.
Does people buying chink made LPVO's get you mad too? They cost half the price and have better quality control than brand name optics.
>M-muh American made!
Guaranteed they import parts overseas and just assemble it in some run down warehouse with depressed minimum wage employees, then slap MADE IN US to appease you dumb autist fricks, happens way more infinitely than you would think.
Funny thing is none of that inflated value ever makes it to employees.
Ok poor
>Assuming
lol
Stay mad moron.
You pay for name, not quality. Go look up C_DOES comparison videos and be amazed how fricked you people are getting ripped off.
Consumerist moronism at the finest.
"It's got the name, so it must be good!"
That's a lot of cope, I'm not sure you can afford it, poor
You've done nothing to invalidate the points made, but you sure as hell can spout memes like an angry autist homosexual!
You sure showed everyone!
Strawman is the ultimate form of desperate cope.
But stay mad delaminated gay.
I'm sorry man, didn't mean to get you all worked up, I didn't knew it was so bat that you would get this touchy about it, it's okay buddy, I'm sure you'll be able to afford real shit some day
>Coping with assumptions
My cans cost more than anything you own, dumb homosexual.
Is that a call center headset? Ching, are you taking pictures inside of the ministry of propaganda?
You've provided endless entertainment through your seethe, thank you fren for the smile.
Stay poor and waged.
What's that picture supposed to prove? What cans? Are you moronic?
https://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-US/p/hd-800-s/
I'm I suppose to be impressed? You are definitely moronic
The impression comes when you listen to the audio quality, you wouldn't know because
>poor
It's okay fren, stay waged.
Wow, that's like, so much money.
>Pic is toy I bought for a bit more than your headset.
>I got scammed on gunbroker!
Lmao fricking moron.
>Laughs at people for buying American made instead of chink shit
>Buys German made instead of chink shit
You sure proved your point
I buy what works that fits my budget and don't rely on brand name and "Made in America" to determine my purchasing decision, autist gay.
Stay delaminated.
Look at this homosexual, paying double for a german made headset instead of having the same quality in a chinese made one, you are just paying for the brand homosexual
This is a moron statement.
There isn't a "best" headphone, the listening experiences varies for every set and is all based on personal preference.
Learn something about audio before you make moron comments.
Your previous statements about optics are moronic.
There isn't a "best" optic, the shooting experience varies for every optic and is all based on personal preference.
Learn something about shooting before you make moron comments.
You're right Anon, that's why the $200 Holosun wipes the floor compared to $1,200 EOTechs :^)
That statement contradicts the one you are answering, learn to read
>Implying a worthwhile reply is needed to a moron roleplaying Echolalia
It's comparing apples to oranges.
Sound profile is entirely different from optical quality and you're using two different senses entirely. Stop being a fricking moron child.
The optical quality you get in weapon optics isn't justifiable for the price you pay and you can get away with high quality alternatives for a lower price that perform all the same and last just as long. Each manufacturer shits out shit from time to time and for any aspie moron to act like their EOTech / Trijicon is without fault just shows how stupid they truly are.
I'm not going to lie to you anon, I'm still no buying chink shit, but A+ for effort, I hope they give you double ration of rice tonight
>$1200 eotech
holy shit dude try to make your bait less obvious.
I paid $500 for an EXPS 3-0 in December 2019
>If I pay you more for the same product I win
I wish more of my customers were dumbasses like you
>Way more infinitely
chinks errywhere here
bro fricking PA is a brand name, what the frick do you think a "brand" is?
>People think PA is good for the price
lol, may as well put $30 amazon shit on your gun.
Lmfaooo I feel really good knowing that in societal collapse, you're my opposition.
not buying anything from china sorry
trij-chads… we won
not buying chinese
>Google Red Dot delamination
>It's Trijicon and Eotech
Wow that was hard.
oh no no no no
Lol known issue since 2014 damn. Anyone have a pic of the uh1 delaminating or is it just the battery drain boogeyman the hater still cling to the only known issue?
I had reticle flicker and parasitic drain on my strikefire II. The refresh rate was visibly low.
not surprising. the only delamination on red dots i've heard about is on eotechs
Yeah. I bought a cheap sig Romeo to use while my eotech was sent off for repairs. Never ended up sending it, I like the cheap sig better.
>eokek users seethe as much as vatniks
/thread
not buying horoshit
>Buys EOTech / Trijicon
>Delaminaaaaaaates
>Guess I'll just spend the price of a holosun to get it fixed!
still not doing it
Worth it just to make the chinks seethe
As a person that does photography, weapon optics gays are truly insufferable and will justify their overinflated optics purchase, even if it fails on them.
When I pay thousands, my optics work flawlessly, the glass is perfect, and I can see everything with crisp clean edges.
But you gays will say the stupidest shit, like chromatic aberration being a benefit to optics quality at a $1,000 price point.
This is also something that largely is overlooked. In almost all other markets there is a clear "best" product. In optics and firearms there is only compromise.
Dude same one the audiophile world, Chinks are just a different breed in electronics. These yurogays bringing out decades worth of audio equipment into mainstream but slap on an insufferable brand tax while the chinks who are literally working with a small team in their garage pumping out a fraction of the cost of big brands and offering TOTL audio quality for the poors. I will never disrespect motherfrickers who are willing to innovate and bring these brands who have been riding on their coattails back to fricking reality!
still not buying chinkshit btw
Rest in piss dumb Black folk who spend $800 on shit that is equivalent to a $300 optic.
>Muh poor
I could buy a DD right now and add an XPS alongside a magnifier but I don't bother because the PSA build with holosun does the same shit
I can tell if you are pretending to be moronic, or you genuinely are moronic
Cope
Debtcels coping hard against smartchads
>tfw no debt, at all
>tfw own nice optics and rifles
>tfw have compared them side by side with PA, Holosun, and Vortex chinesium and seen the chinkshit is not as good
It feels good
You can lie to yourself and make believe that being a poorgay is a virtue, but even you aren't dumb enough to believe it.
We all know you're full of shit anon. Just admit it's being paid for on a credit card. We'll understand.
Honestly you'd be stupid not to pay for it with a credit card. Though you'd want to them pay it off within the same billing cycle. Credit utilization is a significant part of your credit score/history
>We've gone from no I didn't pay for it on card to
>Okay I did pay it on card B-BUT IT'S GOOD FOR THE CREDIT SCORE!!!
okay man we get it, you cope and seethe because you're just a poor person with bad self control. Just sell it, pay your cards off and start saving. Trust me when I say you'll be surprised to see you hit the same 5" groups
We've gone from one person to another responding is the issue.
sorry anon, I literally don't own a credit card.
no you couldnt
why do you idiots actually think $2500 is a flex
that's less than a normie vacation
It's because they're poor. All these "richgays" are just morons who make sub 30k/yr who throw shit on multiple credit cards so they can feel superior when posting their pristine rifle (unzeroed) 30 times a day and call other people poor.
holy frick I predicted it
bro we are in one of the poorest fricking hobbies on the planet, there are people here who burst into /gq/ threads and seriously try to dab on people by suggesting they "went into credit card debt" by paying $250 for a plate carrier and that a $50 condor is just as good.
You cannot even try to buy something decent without getting shit on by extremely angry poorgays. I've tried telling people I've had bad experiences with highpoints and holosuns, people fly onto my dick like I insulted their dead mother.
Samegayging won't help you. Everyone can smell the desperation for attention when you post your debt rifles. I could drop wild moronic amounts of cash on a Gucci rifle but instead I buy something actually worth the cash.
Oh and if you think $250 is a large number you ARE poor, that's an unfortunate but true reality pal. Come back to me when you can drop 2k without thinking about being evicted now that the COVID moratorium is over.
I am truly sorry to hear that you're poor, I hope you find a way out of your current situation.
LMFAO okay Epson, save he projecting for your only job at staples. I make more than you do in a year.
my condor pc that i bought for fun was comfier than my jpc because of thicker straps
scratchy material though
yeah but that's pretty simple to explain and fix, the JPC was designed to minimize weight and maximize heat dissipation / airflow.
There are $250 carriers like the OCPC that are extremely comfortable and very good at handling weight, the JPC is just an older design made to be super light.
I guess I'll just go off on this tangent (I haven't posted ITT previously).
One there's a point to be made that the Praeto principle applies to gear (First of all, optics is an exception to this). In that simply having functioning X gets you the majority of benefits compared even to having the gucci version of X. Although this doesn't justify sour grapes mentality over better gear. However, even if you're not a poorgay, any event where such gear would be warranted you will also need to have general prepper stuff as well. For everyone you really need to weight weapons and related kit against general prepper materials like food, water, heat, backup electricity, etc.
For poorgays, once you have a decent HD long gun and a CC make a basic kit with a surplus FLC "flick" (they're $10 on ebay) and cheap UCP pouches. Then frick all the other cool guy shit until you have 3 months of general prepper shit. If you have all that and still have money to blow, then go for all the armor, NVGs, optics to your hearts content.
Also poorgays. If you're gonna cheap out on the optic, make sure you're proficient with irons and don't be afraid to just stick with irons until you can afford a good optic.
>pareto principle
filtered, thanks.
Most of these guys are not buying "functioning X" they are buying the cheapest thing they can that ISNT on Aliexpress. Functioning "X" in the instance of an optic would be a $350 Eotech 512, $400 Aimpoint PRO, $400 Aimpoint duty or just some damn iron sights while they saved money
Also another point I'd like to make is NO ONE KNOWS exactly what will happen in the US at large, much less your geographic area or yourself personally. A full blown civilian war may happen, but you may never experience any violence more extreme than common crime today. So in general prepare for the most likely stuff before getting into edge case shit.
I said optics were an exception immediately after that. Unfrick your attention span zoomer.
i think the funniest thing about the guys with $500 tactical pants and nods is none of them have drones
im buying a $2000 drone in the winter so i can patrol around my house from my basement
>$500 tactical pants
Very based. I was thinking about that the other day. A drone would be very nice for checking out your property or anything nearby without exposing yourself at all.
Don't be mad poorgay. Nods AND a drone are entirely within reach for someone not living in poverty. I have an older Mavic Pro, and a crispy WP PVS-14. I'm far from wealthy, but I just saved up.
Yeah you can tell they're little kids who don't know shit about frick. Like cars as a hobby shit or horses lol offroading or racing at a strip those are expensive hobbies, shit sailor gays and boating oh my god those are expensive hobbies. All these poorgays are pitiful secondhand embarrassment echo chamber crabs in a bucket. Frick em, gun bullying works.
I'm sure holosun is fine but I can't bring myself to buy chinkshit because they lie about everything electronic. A battery life of "1 year" will probably work for half of that, or worse. Ip65 to them means they'll hot glue the housing seams and add a spray on conformal coating to the boards. They cheap out on semiconductor materials like germanium so they don't work well in a wide range of temperatures. Glass clarity from China is just garbo, though for something like a red dot or holo it's not that important. My main gripe with Chinese anything is their primary concern is and always will be how it looks on paper, and will tirelessly cheap out in every way they can while maintaining on paper performance without thought to how things perform in situ. Tl;Dr you're not wrong but chink shit has never ever failed to disappoint me and I'll never give them money if I can help it
OP, please let us know how this ended and how L3 treated this issue.
I sold mine on ebay a while ago because the sight picture was narrow as frick and bloomed big time lol. Irons ftw!
are you sure its not the thin protective film sticker they put on glass for shipping in the box from factory
Best optic ever.
not buying chinkshit no matter how many threads you make shitting on EoTech or Aimpoint
Based.
Also correct. After looking through a true holographic sight I knew I couldn't go back.
How many manufacturers are making actual holographic sights beyond eotech and chinkshit? Reflex sights with ring reticles are not holograms.
It seems like in all of these threads the fact that the optic is holographic is ignored. No shit aimpoints are simpler and in turn are more robust and have better battery life. Aimpoints aren't holo sights and are irrelevant for someone who is in the market for a holo sight. That's like shopping for a screwdriver and some homosexual won't shut up about how great his hammer is.
I think the Russian 1P87 is a holo. It's like 1st gen EOTech technology but less clear and more fragile, but I think it is a real holographic.
Because at this point prism scopes are infinitely better and durable. I've heard one or two morons try to cope about this fact not being true but it's because they need to justify their dumb purchase of a $700 holographic meme sight years out of date coupled with a $700 magnifier for plinking 100yds with.
We're now at a point where prism 1x scopes can now be magnified so there's literally no reason to use anything else but maybe a scope for a DMR
Meanwhile my herrosun AEMS regularly shits all over eokeks.
The AEMS is a fisheye'd piece of shit that has a reticle that can be seen from the front.
IT SHITS ALL OVER EOTECH he says, lmao
You dont even know how much it shits on eotech because eokek lied for years about their performance lol so frick you
no one will ever know if a holosun has a problem that serious because the people who use holosun are redditoids that don't shoot
You done boating? My old man spent $40,000 on one. Nice little thing. He spent more a month maintaining it and storing it than if I bought a new Eotech every month.
Buy Vortex Poor Ass homosexual!
poors are legitimately embarrassing
>the only optic not shit on is aimpoint
I guess I'll have to suck it up and buy sw*de
only buy a t-2 if you intend to use nightvision, otherwise just cheap out on a romeo or holosun
not buying chinkshit
Is holochink worth a damn? I know 90s norinco was generally fine but modern examples are cheap bullshit.
yes. As a general rule, all of the $300+ holosun red dots are quite good and extremely reliable. Their older/cheaper stuff has bad light transmission and bad tint. For example:
>good
510c
AEMS
500 series X2
>bad (range use only)
400 series rifle dots
503c
anything pre 2017
so long as you stick to the $300 rule youll enjoy holosun
Holosun's pistol dots are pretty good, but their rifle dots are questionable. The included mounts are garbage, but that's true of pretty much any of the Chinesium optics. I have a 510C on an AR-9 that's been fine so far.
I think the SIG Romeo 5 is probably the best poorgay red dot on the market. I've got a couple of them on ADM mounts and they've been totally solid despite them being on beater rifles that get thrown around.
I think anyone spending $300+ on a red dot should be buying an Aimpoint PRO or Duty RDS and avoiding Chinese stuff entirely.
/k/ does this weird thing where consensus is reached and anything besides that is automatically bad.
see: /arg/
its anonymous peer pressure.
>tfw currently selling my acogs to fund my PA optic addiction
lmao get fricked im not paying for a tritium recharge fricking pindos
You never had ACOGs.
Cope seethe mald etc youll see it on tacswap later
still should be covered under warranty, but its made by pindos suprise suprise
Did you really cover the serial on an optic mount?
nahh its just a bobro mount thats sold seperately
>implying the tritium is even useful outside of night shooring
>implying the tritium is even useful for night shooting
there aren't many situations where it's bright enough to see a target and yet dim enough to see tritium
if that was true, then why is there a FRICKhuge market for illuminated reticle optics. this is just a cope. as the sun sets there is a magical time where the scope is still gathering plenty of light but you cant see the crosshairs all that well.
>f that was true, then why is there a FRICKhuge market for illuminated reticle optics
Mostly for tards that don't shoot, ever. See: PA optics.
every major scope company has a lineup of illuminated optics. who am i supposed to believe, some anon poster online or them?
Just because something exists doesn't mean it's useful. In this case we're not even talking about LED or other electronically illuminated reticles, we're talking tritium. Tritium is not bright enough for you to see it if you can still see the target. Simple as.
>Tritium is not bright enough for you to see it if you can still see the target
Yes anon, that's right. Maybe if you owned the thing you want to talk about you'd understand it a bit better.
Since that's too high a bar, next time you're at a gunstore check out a pistol with tritium sights. Do note how you literally can't see any glow from them. Even on a cloudy day tritium isn't bright enough.
>he fell for the non-TA31 meme
lmao
ive enjoyed my acog quite a bit at dusk. I think you're wrong or have a salty old acog
>at dusk
Define dusk. Because when it's dusk here, you can indeed see tritium, but you're not going to see a target beyond red dot range. Or, it's still plenty bright enough you are picking up light from your fiber.
ok good luck with that but why did you meow at me. Stop that.
have owned ta31 and ta33, still just gonna buy pa optics from meow on
irons chads just keep winning!
My 552 from 2005 has delamination around the entire edge, but you never see it when actually using it, so I don't care. My holosun circle dot looks way better but it's also way newer, so who cares? They both work.
so how are the mini acogs?
it's like a red dot but worse in every single way
sad, they are cute and frickable