45 is really good for suppressed since most loads are subsonic and its a heavier round. You aren't losing a lot or really any power compared to other rounds where you have to get special subs.
Something in .25 with a threaded muzzle. This isn't magic, anon. Assuming a subsonic load and comparable cans and powder, bigger bullet = more gas = more noise = more energy on target
I won't comment on the 9mm, but the .45 ACP Station is arguably hearing safe indoors but it's not particularly quiet, mostly due to the shitty B&T can. It's a bit better with an Osprey on it. >can's advertised as wiped >winds up being yet another k baffle tube with a single wipe on the end >mfw i paid $2k for a clunky bolt action pistol that jams if not cycled exactly right, inconsistent grip safety, and is picky on ammo, and meh suppressor
>Pretend i explained 3rd grade statistics to you here.
If your statistics suggest that 22LR has comparable one-shot-stop statistics to other calibers I'm going to ask what drugs are you on and where can I get some.
It absolutely is a real question, we have a lot of statistical information on how likely a single shot is to result in stopping a thread, and it's not all that good for .22LR, while most handgun rounds are pretty much the same (.38 SPL, 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, .45 ACP). .357 is significantly more effective according to real-world data, though curiously .44 mag isn't as much even though it's a lot more powerful on paper. Rifles and shotguns are in a whole different category.
Stopping power is not indicia of lethality. Upwards of 70 percent of people shot survive. It is OPs job to write clearly which is why they are often considered, "homosexuals" when they say stupid things. Lethality and noise suppression have an inverse proportionality in general. OP could have simply excluded 22lr without the gunko pop attitude of downplaying the lethality of a small caliber round. Its not possible to answer the OP without saying >uhh fricking anything
Because he is in fact homosexual
>though curiously .44 mag isn't as much even though it's a lot more powerful on paper.
I guarantee it's a combination of flinching and using controlled-expansion hunting loads intended for larger, thicker-skinned game.
/k/ is getting worse than Reddit with all its anal bullshit “if you’re the kind of person who confuses you’re with your and their with there, I don’t think we’re gonna get along lol xD”
Shut the frick up homie. You know sure as shit what the post is asking.
>what weapon is as quiet as a canned 22 >but more lethal
None, when we compare lethality we would simply compare amongst each other not with a 22. Which leaves...anything but a 22. But not as quiet. So...no. i dont know what OP is saying.
>Which leaves...anything but a 22. But not as quiet. > So...no. i dont know what OP is saying.
Pick one. What's second-quietest on the lethal list once you've crossed off .22?
What is more lethal than a 22lr? Is not a real question.
Thats like asking >what wins in rock paper scissors
Stopping power is not indicia of lethality. Upwards of 70 percent of people shot survive. It is OPs job to write clearly which is why they are often considered, "homosexuals" when they say stupid things. Lethality and noise suppression have an inverse proportionality in general. OP could have simply excluded 22lr without the gunko pop attitude of downplaying the lethality of a small caliber round. Its not possible to answer the OP without saying >uhh fricking anything
Because he is in fact homosexual
>what weapon is as quiet as a canned 22 >but more lethal
None, when we compare lethality we would simply compare amongst each other not with a 22. Which leaves...anything but a 22. But not as quiet. So...no. i dont know what OP is saying.
something that is very quiet and still causes a very lethal wound? like a very heavy, large slug, with a modest hollow point and a frickpile of sectional density.
like a bolt-action 458 socom or 500 whisper, launched with a very fast powder, and using a very large suppressor.
I'm working on a 730 grain subsonic load for my .458 Lott.
>best
No way to tell without know what the goal is. It’s like asking “what’s the best fast car?”.
For a combat firearm something in .45 would be good for reasons already mentioned in the thread.
For assasinations something like that umbrella with a tiny firing mechanism that fired a tiny poison pellet some KGB agent used to assasinate a Bulgarian.
Replace the poison with pure fentanyl and it would probably look like an OD
What upper is that?
TBA Sicario Mk4
45 is really good for suppressed since most loads are subsonic and its a heavier round. You aren't losing a lot or really any power compared to other rounds where you have to get special subs.
B&T VP9/Station 6
Something in .25 with a threaded muzzle. This isn't magic, anon. Assuming a subsonic load and comparable cans and powder, bigger bullet = more gas = more noise = more energy on target
I won't comment on the 9mm, but the .45 ACP Station is arguably hearing safe indoors but it's not particularly quiet, mostly due to the shitty B&T can. It's a bit better with an Osprey on it.
>can's advertised as wiped
>winds up being yet another k baffle tube with a single wipe on the end
>mfw i paid $2k for a clunky bolt action pistol that jams if not cycled exactly right, inconsistent grip safety, and is picky on ammo, and meh suppressor
>more lethality than a bullet
Pretend i explained 3rd grade statistics to you here.
>Pretend i explained 3rd grade statistics to you here.
If your statistics suggest that 22LR has comparable one-shot-stop statistics to other calibers I'm going to ask what drugs are you on and where can I get some.
What is more lethal than a 22lr? Is not a real question.
Thats like asking
>what wins in rock paper scissors
It absolutely is a real question, we have a lot of statistical information on how likely a single shot is to result in stopping a thread, and it's not all that good for .22LR, while most handgun rounds are pretty much the same (.38 SPL, 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, .45 ACP). .357 is significantly more effective according to real-world data, though curiously .44 mag isn't as much even though it's a lot more powerful on paper. Rifles and shotguns are in a whole different category.
Stopping power is not indicia of lethality. Upwards of 70 percent of people shot survive. It is OPs job to write clearly which is why they are often considered, "homosexuals" when they say stupid things. Lethality and noise suppression have an inverse proportionality in general. OP could have simply excluded 22lr without the gunko pop attitude of downplaying the lethality of a small caliber round. Its not possible to answer the OP without saying
>uhh fricking anything
Because he is in fact homosexual
>statistical information
> posts Marshal & Sanow
anon, you can't have both
>though curiously .44 mag isn't as much even though it's a lot more powerful on paper.
I guarantee it's a combination of flinching and using controlled-expansion hunting loads intended for larger, thicker-skinned game.
>we have a lot of statistical information on how likely a single shot is to result in stopping a thread
I know. We did this thread yesterday.
/k/ is getting worse than Reddit with all its anal bullshit “if you’re the kind of person who confuses you’re with your and their with there, I don’t think we’re gonna get along lol xD”
Shut the frick up homie. You know sure as shit what the post is asking.
>what weapon is as quiet as a canned 22
>but more lethal
None, when we compare lethality we would simply compare amongst each other not with a 22. Which leaves...anything but a 22. But not as quiet. So...no. i dont know what OP is saying.
>Which leaves...anything but a 22. But not as quiet.
> So...no. i dont know what OP is saying.
Pick one. What's second-quietest on the lethal list once you've crossed off .22?
Suppressed .45acp.
Semantic homosexual.
45 acp less lethal than other options and just as loud
The lengths to which /k/ posters and gun bloggers will go to avoid facing their limited recoil control abilities.
>with a little bit more lethalit
Poison dart frog toxin inside .22LR hollowpoints.
>not dipping each bullet in toxic waste as well
Gotta cover all your bases man
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32acp
something that is very quiet and still causes a very lethal wound? like a very heavy, large slug, with a modest hollow point and a frickpile of sectional density.
like a bolt-action 458 socom or 500 whisper, launched with a very fast powder, and using a very large suppressor.
I'm working on a 730 grain subsonic load for my .458 Lott.
22 is sufficiently lethal
>best
No way to tell without know what the goal is. It’s like asking “what’s the best fast car?”.
For a combat firearm something in .45 would be good for reasons already mentioned in the thread.
For assasinations something like that umbrella with a tiny firing mechanism that fired a tiny poison pellet some KGB agent used to assasinate a Bulgarian.
Replace the poison with pure fentanyl and it would probably look like an OD
9mm or .45acp
You get more action noise than anything else on those
Check out B&T
SPR300 Pro is a dream gun for me.
Quiet as a 22 lr suppressed but with a 400.blavkput round effective at 165 yards.