NEW GOODIES FROM THE BURGERS
>HIMARS ammunition
>16 105mm light howitzers and 36,000 artillery rounds
1>5 High-endurance ScanEagle surveillance drones
>Mine clearing & mine resistant vehicles
>Additional HARM (High Speed AnitRadiar Missiles)
>1,000 TOW missiles (anti-tank)
>1,000 Javelin anti-tank missiles
>2,000 Anti-armor rounds
https://nitter.it/jseldin/status/1560654906897625088
TOW missiles are on the menu, bois.
>TOW
Worse than Stugna
How so?
don't acknowledge him
>Wire-guided
>Optically-tracked
Stugna has a huge advantage of having an ability of being tracked from a safe spot up to 50 meters from the launcher
How hard would it be to retrofit a stugna type system to a TOW (Genuine question)?
Not difficult at all. It's just a remotely actuated launcher with the video feed from the optics going down a cable to a terminal.
That said, I don't think the Ukrainians have the capacity to do that retrofit right now, but I hope that the rest of the world comes to realize how nice remotely operated launchers are.
That's an advantage yes but it flys in that weird corkscrew trajectory that lowers accuracy because it's guidance system isn't very advanced and the remote controlled optical guidance is choppy. You can see the operators having trouble to stay on target.
The TOW exposes the operator but is more precise and allows better tracking.
Not being exposed isn't a "huge" advantage at all. Unless the enemy is constantly scanning the sorroundings with high tech thermals he will never find out where the missile came from because he's busy getting the frick out of there after the guy in front of him exploded out of nowhere.
>Not being exposed isn't a "huge" advantage at all.
It absolutely is, Stugmaballs allows operator to set up a position and basically just look for the enemy vehicles from safety of some lowlands or trench, TOW is used after spotting the target, which you can argue is more relevant when using on offensive, yet even then it's being mogged by Javelin or mortar
Safety is not that much of an issue since it's not likely that you will be spotted in your ambush position, even after you fired the weapon.
If we talk about militaries that are actually competent and scout ahead for such AT positions with drones, gunships or spotters with thermals, it's another story.
As I said: it's an advantage, but not a "huge" one.
>If we talk about militaries that are actually competent and scout ahead for such AT positions with drones
Stop underestimating Russia mate, they have a lot of drones like orlans that can get up to 100km inside enemy territory
Im telling you info that i heard basically from 1st hand from a Ukrainian anti tank platoon guy who's been using "Stugnas", "Corsairs", and before that Soviet "Mulat"
Basically said that Stugna is better just because of that one feature
>Safety is not that much of an issue since it's not likely that you will be spotted in your ambush position
thermals, heard about them?
only an issue when fighting first world militaries
French sold thermals to Russia, a lot of them
I'm not underestimating them, we just haven't seen widespread introduction of thermals in russian vehicles or infanty (yet, to be fair). But i also dont believe that r*ssia sent its bad equipment first and is only now starting to take off the gloves. Their best equipment has been destroyed and that also means that most likely everything with thermals equipped and in working order is now gone
STOP
UNDERESTIMATING
RUSSIA
MATE
by any chance are you an armchair warlord, or even the man himself?
yes, yes, however consider this counter-point:
having a TOW is better than nothing at all
Better than nothing my guy.
>36,000 artillery rounds
That'll last about, lessee, about two weeks or less.
Did Ukraine get Sweaty Ben? Or is that his cousin, Sweaty Bensky?
Any confirmation of F16 training/gifting yet?
Nah mate, that's too provocative
They're training on F-15's, F-16's and A-10's for some god-awful reason if you believe the journos who saw it.
ABSOLUTE UNIT
>16 105mm light howitzers
wow the collective West are really trying with this latest AIDS package lel
>15 High-endurance ScanEagle surveillance drones
happy 20th birthday!
ITT concern trolling about free goodies
>when does it end?
but you do understand that the US can't provide soviet artillery munitions but it can provide TOWs?
Ukraine needs to de-escalate NOW.
Why did the Euros stop with shipments? It used to be they were competing to see who was helping more.
Afaik UK is building a frigate for Ukraine and some missile boats. Poland has given most of what they can. Rest is just drips and drabs.
Countries willing to give away their old soviet stuff already did so, countries that still have some soviet stuff would be left with nothing, and Ukraine is already in phase when they have the more modern army than their initial suppliers.