In France, we often say "Congo Belge/Belgium Congo" to refer to the DRC, and "Congo Brazzaville" to refer to the RoC
And more than once, I've heard "Congo Z" to refer to DRC (Z for Zaïre)
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> I've heard "Congo Z" to refer to DRC (Z for Zaïre)
Follow Banana Congo Z on telegram for the news the Tutsi are trying to bury.
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Kek
Jokes aside I'm serious, often I've heard it from the mouth of Africans
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Congo Z has a nice ring to it.
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>still calling it Belgian Congo
Incredibly based and colonialpilled.
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Aha, Stellenbosch, a small part of France in South Africa
(Yes, Sarie Marais is a song used in the French military)
Otherwise, as for the use of "Congo Belge/Belgium Congo", here in France it doesn't have a colonial connotation, it's a way to avoid confusion between the two Congo - DRC and RoC
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it's french so no surprise it's full of racemixing coalburners and their mulatto abominations
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>66% White
Damn, my hometown is at least 66% black. A town in South-frigging-Africa is Whiter than my hometown!
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This is your threadly reminder that SA native population is white.
I still call Myanmar "Burma" because Myanmar is a dumb name
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I still call DRC "Zaire" sometimes to help avoid confusing the two.
Its Ceylon, not Sri Lanka and Formosa not Taiwan
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And Bombay not Mumbai. How could you change something awesome sounding like Bombay?
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Same.
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Its Ceylon, not Sri Lanka and Formosa not Taiwan
Double same.
>Su-25 >supersonic
maybe after the wings fall off in a straight dive at full power
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the capital of communist china is Beijing but if we ever liberate them we should immediately call it Peking again
I use the Postal Romanization for all Chinese place names. Frick pinyin.
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I believe they changed to both names being acceptable some time ago.
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Nyanmar uwu
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Look what you fricking made me do! LOOK AT IT!
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fuggin saved oWo
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I always say Czech Republic, because Czechia sounds gay.
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I keep calling it Czechoslovakia by accident, even though no such state has existed during my lifetime.
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When did they change the name? I was there in 2006 and it was republic
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It's the same thing with Kiev into Kyiv, Turkey into Turkiye, etc. A recent thing of the past few years, I think the Czechia thing was from 2016. It's just the natives seething over the English spelling/pronunciation being different from their own.
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Do you think they're happier now that verbally they are almost indistinguishable for Chechnya now?
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I keep calling it Czechoslovakia by accident, even though no such state has existed during my lifetime.
>A recent thing of the past few years
Kiev was legally changed to Kyiv in 1995. Czechoslovakia ceased to exist in 1993. I'm not sure 30 years ago counts as "past few years" or "recent". The difference between Czech Republic and Czechia has nothing to do with nativization either, since the native name is Česko. Nativizations would instead be Turkey-Türkiye, Persia-Iran, Bombay-Mumbai etc.
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I prefer French Indochina
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If I remember correctly, Burma is what the common people call it in everyday conversation. Myanmar is the formal fancy name for it.
>why do you have a horse in this race? it's just a result Belgians and French demarcating their colonial possessions.
Is ROC actually historical Congo though??
Seemed like a case of Gold Coast stealing the name Ghana despite the two having no historical overlap. Ghana was a Sahelian empire centered in Mali.
Yes, because the Rwandan military focuses on elements of its military that it can maintain and which are useful for its situation, while the Congo and countries like it scrape together money to buy tanks and jets that they won't be able to run in five years due to maintenance and poor infrastructure.
That's not to say there aren't African militaries for whom jets and fleets of tanks make sense and that there aren't African countries which have and maintain mechanized forces with (relatively) modern air forces (Ethiopia, Angola, and a few others come to mind), but Rwanda and the DRC aren't them.
Rwanda is a small country that has used that to its advantage to build strong institutions capable of operating competently, while the Congolese government is largely based on corruption and rent-seeking.
>pan over starving african child on the ground >for just pennies a day >you can feed a starving child in one of the congos >IT'S LIKE RAIYAAAAIN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY >call now to donate to jagged little meal >IT'S A FREE RAIIAAIDE WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY PAID >african child starts jamming out and throwing its malnourished potbelly around
>The Rwandan shots were directed towards a Congolese aircraft flying within Congolese territory," it said in a statement, confirming the plane had landed in the provincial capital Goma without suffering major damage.
Wasnt downed
>maybe after the wings fall off in a straight dive at full power
since anon also mentioned swing wing and fighter, one presumes he was talking about the mig-23s that another anon mentioned
Big wars in Africa are way more entertaining than Haitian shit. You've got everything
>straight up ooga-booga rape squads. >random village self-defense militias armed with 1 rifle first used in the Emin Pasha relief expedition. >The national armies larping as western militaries (with the budget of a small city before corruption takes a cut) >UN soldiers who are at best somewhat better than nothing.
I wouldn't say it's funny in itself but the accounts of Mike Hoare and his merry band of wee lads assfricking the Simba Rebellion are incredibly interesting to read.
Not really funny, but this operation is interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Kitona
And the entirety of the first and second Congo Wars are fascinating.
Read "Dancing in the Glory of Monsters" for an in depth summary.
I've actually been following this for a while now, in the DRC, there's some Tutsi rebellion force causing a mess in the country, Kenya and Uganda are attempting to bring them down.
The president of Rwanda, who is a Tutsi, has been obviously funding the rebellion force, largely as a means to annex territory.
What's weirder is that all of those nations are trying to get an Eastern African Federation going, but when one president is actively supporting a militias causing trouble for the other members, it's kind of hard to do.
just imagine if africans could fix africa, make it strong and prosperous >africans leave europe >africans leave us >hot african qts can stay in caribbean since variety is the spice of life
heaven on earth
you can pretend there's no difference until you are blue in the face but Tutsis clearly have afro-semitic characteristics and the Hutus are basically pure Bantu.
Like linguistically they both speak Swahili, so they're not true afro-semites any more, but pretending there's not a clear ethnic difference between the two groups and blaming everything on the belgians (who stoked existing divisions, instead of making them up) is utterly disingenuous. Africans are perfectly capable of being racist towards each other without having to learn racism from the white man.
also the RPF Tutsis are english speakers who lived in Uganda and Tanzania before the Rwandan Genocide, rolled in, and killed what's left of the francophone Tutsis when they consolidated control over Rwanda. They also basically founded the current Ugandan state when they were part of the NRA instead of ccalling themselves the RPF.
>Tutsis are a distinct population, halfway between ethiopians and bantus.
Ethiopia itself is a broad range of peoples. If you meant Cushitic, then the Oromo are themselves Cushitic with Nilotic influences. The Habesha peoples are Cushitic with some Semitic influences.
Habesha us originally semitic later Influenced/mixed with cushitic even the least semitic habeshas(Amhara) have 50% if their ancestry coming from western Asia the percentage is larger for other habesha groups
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Is*
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Is*
>Habesha us originally semitic later Influenced/mixed with cushitic even the least semitic habeshas(Amhara) have 50% if their ancestry coming from western Asia the percentage is larger for other habesha groups
Bullshit. That's the Ethiopian royal families claiming they're descended from Solomon through the Queen of Sheba. In reality, the Queen of Sheba wasn't even Ethiopian but Yemeni. It's a fairytale they believe in.
Habeshas speak South Semitic, which originated in Yemen where it's still spoken among many Yemenis and Omanis (albeit they're endangered languages due to Saudi-Emirati genocide)., whereas Hebrew, Aramaic and standard Arabic are Central Semitic.
There is some Semitic genetic influence among peoples of the Horn of Africa, but definitely not 50%. That bullshit number is based on "ancestry DNA tests" from a few years ago which effectively didn't even recognize a Cushitic ancestry marker and would therefore show Cushites as being a mix of Bantu and Semitic. Those ancestry tests have all changed their stats now.
Cushitic, Semitic, Amazigh and Egyptian Copts are collectively Afro-Asiatic. That's the only major convergence. most Habeshas are not genetically half or majority Semitic, only linguistically Semitic speakers.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182106/
Read the research anon , I never even claimed habeshas are sabaean or even Yemeni , Eurasian ancestry in habeshas is not even Arabian(CHG) but more similar to the iron age levant and preindoeuropean Europe (neolithic Anatolia basically) , sabaean didn't give birth to ethiosemitic that's a fact
The guys who established the ethiosemitic civilization at 1000bc were newcomers from western Asia not natives modern habeshas are just muttified Eurasians
Dont blame us for this one moron, Belgian colonialism ended in 1960, the Rwandan genocide started more than 30 years later... If we had already fricked shit up beyond repair (like in congo lol) they would have been instantly killing each other. (Like in congo)
Its the H*tu's and Tutsi's that came up with the division and both happily increased that division in the 30 years post colonialism
Imagine the ads back in spain >Hey bro, you a poor, kissless handholdless virgin whos not even in line to inherit? Come to the Americas! Get a state mandated native waifu and a tract of land to farm
Im suprised more didnt move over but I certainly would be on the first ship south.
I just looked it up and about 4.6 million Spaniards moved to the Americas. It seems like a pretty good offer. Join the military, steal gold, get wife and land. Not a bad gig if you’re a 1700’s Spanish dude.
I used to think this way, but Kagame is not a nice guy. He probably killed Juvénal Habyarimana (Though the resulting Hutu chimpout and genocide was not his fault)
The First Congo War and even Second Congo War was justifiable because of the Banyamulenge expulsion issue.
But the insurgency in Kivu is horrific and serves no good purpose. And Kagame is the the cause of the continuing conflict.
>But the insurgency in Kivu is horrific and serves no good purpose
it does serve a purpose, though, it keeps the kivus under rwanda's defacto control instead of DRC's de facto control. whether that is a good purpose or not, it's still a purpose.
>Be me >Be (mostly) benevolent dictator to my people. >Inherit depopulated country. >Have elite paratrooper army >Use rebel proxies to destabilize poorer neighbor rendered pathetically weak military from decades of corruption. >Said country has to be defended by random racist paramilitaries. >Succeed in "Reclaiming" territory from said neighbor in short war >Try repeating success, claim the other country still controlled by genocidal extremists >Frick, it doesn't go well >Basically all it's neighbor start sending gear. >Whole thing devolves into massive stalemate.
Man, being leader of Rwanda is tough work. Pic unrelated.
>Is congo still anywhere close Rwanda mil/econ wise or they still choking hard despite being literally 100 times larger?
I'm under the impression that the DRC and the Republic of Congo are a perpetual unfrickable mess.
>fighting in the wilderness amongst tribes
Literally a nothingburger. The only thing I want are rifle parts kits and accessories from the dead on both sides. Hell they could be from the living too I don't care.
Required reading for any interested in the shit going down in the area up until the book was written in 2012. The whole situation is a massive clusterfrick with the most heinous of warcrimes casually committed by all sides with regularity. You're looking at numbers of dead that you'd expect to see on the Eastern Front in WW2, all killed in recent memory.
My money's on the Rwandans though. They're organized, competent, and motivated. The DRC is a failed state held together by nothing but charitable donations and bad cobalt mining contracts.
How are Black folk capable of maintaining, flying and operating fighter jets? This is a sincere question. Do they actually have sufficiently qualified Black person engineers and mechanics and pilots, or do they outsource a lot of it to Westerners and Asians?
France will pay for this.
It's Belgium problem. French Congo is the small one (Brazzaville).
>It's Belgium problem. French Congo is the small one (Brazzaville).
France has had influence in the DRC in the past several decades.
The DRC has fighter jets?
The DRC is still a thing?
Nah, it's called Zaire now
You wish. It'd be too convenient for the rest of the world if there weren't two countries named Congo right next to each other.
I still call DRC "Zaire" sometimes to help avoid confusing the two.
In France, we often say "Congo Belge/Belgium Congo" to refer to the DRC, and "Congo Brazzaville" to refer to the RoC
And more than once, I've heard "Congo Z" to refer to DRC (Z for Zaïre)
> I've heard "Congo Z" to refer to DRC (Z for Zaïre)
Follow Banana Congo Z on telegram for the news the Tutsi are trying to bury.
Kek
Jokes aside I'm serious, often I've heard it from the mouth of Africans
Congo Z has a nice ring to it.
>still calling it Belgian Congo
Incredibly based and colonialpilled.
Aha, Stellenbosch, a small part of France in South Africa
(Yes, Sarie Marais is a song used in the French military)
Otherwise, as for the use of "Congo Belge/Belgium Congo", here in France it doesn't have a colonial connotation, it's a way to avoid confusion between the two Congo - DRC and RoC
it's french so no surprise it's full of racemixing coalburners and their mulatto abominations
>66% White
Damn, my hometown is at least 66% black. A town in South-frigging-Africa is Whiter than my hometown!
This is your threadly reminder that SA native population is white.
I still call Myanmar "Burma" because Myanmar is a dumb name
Its Ceylon, not Sri Lanka and Formosa not Taiwan
And Bombay not Mumbai. How could you change something awesome sounding like Bombay?
Same.
Double same.
I use the Postal Romanization for all Chinese place names. Frick pinyin.
I believe they changed to both names being acceptable some time ago.
Nyanmar uwu
Look what you fricking made me do! LOOK AT IT!
fuggin saved oWo
I always say Czech Republic, because Czechia sounds gay.
I keep calling it Czechoslovakia by accident, even though no such state has existed during my lifetime.
When did they change the name? I was there in 2006 and it was republic
It's the same thing with Kiev into Kyiv, Turkey into Turkiye, etc. A recent thing of the past few years, I think the Czechia thing was from 2016. It's just the natives seething over the English spelling/pronunciation being different from their own.
Do you think they're happier now that verbally they are almost indistinguishable for Chechnya now?
>A recent thing of the past few years
Kiev was legally changed to Kyiv in 1995. Czechoslovakia ceased to exist in 1993. I'm not sure 30 years ago counts as "past few years" or "recent". The difference between Czech Republic and Czechia has nothing to do with nativization either, since the native name is Česko. Nativizations would instead be Turkey-Türkiye, Persia-Iran, Bombay-Mumbai etc.
I prefer French Indochina
If I remember correctly, Burma is what the common people call it in everyday conversation. Myanmar is the formal fancy name for it.
>Zaire
you mean rhoooooodesia
yeah, now only one
>yeah, now only one
DR Congo and Republic of Congo are two separate states.
The second one is the imposter.
>The second one is the imposter.
why do you have a horse in this race? it's just a result Belgians and French demarcating their colonial possessions.
>why do you have a horse in this race? it's just a result Belgians and French demarcating their colonial possessions.
Is ROC actually historical Congo though??
Seemed like a case of Gold Coast stealing the name Ghana despite the two having no historical overlap. Ghana was a Sahelian empire centered in Mali.
All they need.
https://walterdorn.net/189-un-first-air-force-peacekeepers-in-combat-congo-1960-64
it survived
it was a su25
Someone should send a stinger and destroy their whole air force, kek.
Two might 23, 7 su25 and dozens of helis and transports.
they have like 3 russian jets or something
Rwanda has none
Yes, because the Rwandan military focuses on elements of its military that it can maintain and which are useful for its situation, while the Congo and countries like it scrape together money to buy tanks and jets that they won't be able to run in five years due to maintenance and poor infrastructure.
That's not to say there aren't African militaries for whom jets and fleets of tanks make sense and that there aren't African countries which have and maintain mechanized forces with (relatively) modern air forces (Ethiopia, Angola, and a few others come to mind), but Rwanda and the DRC aren't them.
Rwanda is a small country that has used that to its advantage to build strong institutions capable of operating competently, while the Congolese government is largely based on corruption and rent-seeking.
rwanda is also landlocked and it is difficult to maintain heavy vehicles if other countries can restrict the import of essential equipment.
>3
2
Get me that Alanis Morrisette track from the dog commericals and some stock footage. 500,000,000 tonnes of food aid via USAid will fix this.
its sarah mclaughlin
> Alanis Morrisette
Frickin kek
>pan over starving african child on the ground
>for just pennies a day
>you can feed a starving child in one of the congos
>IT'S LIKE RAIYAAAAIN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY
>call now to donate to jagged little meal
>IT'S A FREE RAIIAAIDE WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY PAID
>african child starts jamming out and throwing its malnourished potbelly around
Can't wait for the next airborne assault.
*Tommy gun sounds in the distance*
>YOU CAN STILL SEE HIS HEADLESS BODY STALKIN THROUGH THE NIGHT
>AND THE MUZZLE FLASH OF ROLLAND'S THOMPSON GUN
Were they policing their air space? If so what's the problem
>The Rwandan shots were directed towards a Congolese aircraft flying within Congolese territory," it said in a statement, confirming the plane had landed in the provincial capital Goma without suffering major damage.
Wasnt downed
african wars are the best
They have jets? Who's flying and maintaining those?
>Rwandan Tutsi lightbulb-heads versus Congolese Hutu ooga-boogas
This is clearly a race war, and belongs on /misc/
Imagine the sheer testicular fortitude required to be willing to fly a 40 year old supersonic, swing-wing, Soviet fighter maintained by the Congo
They probably pay russians to do it.
>Su-25
>supersonic
maybe after the wings fall off in a straight dive at full power
the capital of communist china is Beijing but if we ever liberate them we should immediately call it Peking again
>maybe after the wings fall off in a straight dive at full power
since anon also mentioned swing wing and fighter, one presumes he was talking about the mig-23s that another anon mentioned
but he's quoting a post about an Su-25 being shot down with a picture of an Su-25 being shot down
yep, but a bit of imagination goes a long way in conversations. also, interesting that the supersonic bit was the most galling to you
You think any local pilot there would even comprehend the danger?
Kagamechads let’s fricking go
>"Make sure to set the power level as high as it will go."
Frick off. Kagame and the RPF aren't anything like Mugabe and ZANU
time for more warlord kino, i've had nothing interesting to watch other than the haitian chimpouts
Big wars in Africa are way more entertaining than Haitian shit. You've got everything
>straight up ooga-booga rape squads.
>random village self-defense militias armed with 1 rifle first used in the Emin Pasha relief expedition.
>The national armies larping as western militaries (with the budget of a small city before corruption takes a cut)
>UN soldiers who are at best somewhat better than nothing.
Anything funny I should read up on? I know about the Toyota war and all the shenanigans associated with it
I wouldn't say it's funny in itself but the accounts of Mike Hoare and his merry band of wee lads assfricking the Simba Rebellion are incredibly interesting to read.
bump
Google “general butt naked” and follow the rabbit hole
You’re welcome.
Not really funny, but this operation is interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Kitona
And the entirety of the first and second Congo Wars are fascinating.
Read "Dancing in the Glory of Monsters" for an in depth summary.
Check out the stories of battles in the Bush war in Rhodesia
This was literally A-team shit.
I've actually been following this for a while now, in the DRC, there's some Tutsi rebellion force causing a mess in the country, Kenya and Uganda are attempting to bring them down.
The president of Rwanda, who is a Tutsi, has been obviously funding the rebellion force, largely as a means to annex territory.
What's weirder is that all of those nations are trying to get an Eastern African Federation going, but when one president is actively supporting a militias causing trouble for the other members, it's kind of hard to do.
kagame is the glue that holds the eaf together lol
just imagine if africans could fix africa, make it strong and prosperous
>africans leave europe
>africans leave us
>hot african qts can stay in caribbean since variety is the spice of life
heaven on earth
>Tutsi
The French really perma-fricked Africa didn’t they? At least the Spanish largely ended ethnic conflict in the americas*
*by ending the ethnicities
It was the B*lgians who came up with the imaginary Hutu-Tutsi division.
They are just French with deniability
you can pretend there's no difference until you are blue in the face but Tutsis clearly have afro-semitic characteristics and the Hutus are basically pure Bantu.
Like linguistically they both speak Swahili, so they're not true afro-semites any more, but pretending there's not a clear ethnic difference between the two groups and blaming everything on the belgians (who stoked existing divisions, instead of making them up) is utterly disingenuous. Africans are perfectly capable of being racist towards each other without having to learn racism from the white man.
also the RPF Tutsis are english speakers who lived in Uganda and Tanzania before the Rwandan Genocide, rolled in, and killed what's left of the francophone Tutsis when they consolidated control over Rwanda. They also basically founded the current Ugandan state when they were part of the NRA instead of ccalling themselves the RPF.
Hence why Rwanda is in the Commonwealth despite only being colonized by the Germans and later Belgians.
PCA shows Tutsis are a distinct population, halfway between ethiopians and bantus.
>Tutsis are a distinct population, halfway between ethiopians and bantus.
Ethiopia itself is a broad range of peoples. If you meant Cushitic, then the Oromo are themselves Cushitic with Nilotic influences. The Habesha peoples are Cushitic with some Semitic influences.
Habesha us originally semitic later Influenced/mixed with cushitic even the least semitic habeshas(Amhara) have 50% if their ancestry coming from western Asia the percentage is larger for other habesha groups
Is*
>Habesha us originally semitic later Influenced/mixed with cushitic even the least semitic habeshas(Amhara) have 50% if their ancestry coming from western Asia the percentage is larger for other habesha groups
Bullshit. That's the Ethiopian royal families claiming they're descended from Solomon through the Queen of Sheba. In reality, the Queen of Sheba wasn't even Ethiopian but Yemeni. It's a fairytale they believe in.
Habeshas speak South Semitic, which originated in Yemen where it's still spoken among many Yemenis and Omanis (albeit they're endangered languages due to Saudi-Emirati genocide)., whereas Hebrew, Aramaic and standard Arabic are Central Semitic.
There is some Semitic genetic influence among peoples of the Horn of Africa, but definitely not 50%. That bullshit number is based on "ancestry DNA tests" from a few years ago which effectively didn't even recognize a Cushitic ancestry marker and would therefore show Cushites as being a mix of Bantu and Semitic. Those ancestry tests have all changed their stats now.
Cushitic, Semitic, Amazigh and Egyptian Copts are collectively Afro-Asiatic. That's the only major convergence. most Habeshas are not genetically half or majority Semitic, only linguistically Semitic speakers.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182106/
Read the research anon , I never even claimed habeshas are sabaean or even Yemeni , Eurasian ancestry in habeshas is not even Arabian(CHG) but more similar to the iron age levant and preindoeuropean Europe (neolithic Anatolia basically) , sabaean didn't give birth to ethiosemitic that's a fact
The guys who established the ethiosemitic civilization at 1000bc were newcomers from western Asia not natives modern habeshas are just muttified Eurasians
It was everyone with a functioning set of eyeballs and a brain that came up with the very real Hutu-Tutsi division.
have a nice day israeliteslave
Dont blame us for this one moron, Belgian colonialism ended in 1960, the Rwandan genocide started more than 30 years later... If we had already fricked shit up beyond repair (like in congo lol) they would have been instantly killing each other. (Like in congo)
Its the H*tu's and Tutsi's that came up with the division and both happily increased that division in the 30 years post colonialism
The genocides started as soon as the Belgian’s left. The 1990’s genocides were just the culmination
>The Spanish completely muttified 50% of the western hemisphere.
Insane when you sit back and think about it.
Imagine the ads back in spain
>Hey bro, you a poor, kissless handholdless virgin whos not even in line to inherit? Come to the Americas! Get a state mandated native waifu and a tract of land to farm
Im suprised more didnt move over but I certainly would be on the first ship south.
I just looked it up and about 4.6 million Spaniards moved to the Americas. It seems like a pretty good offer. Join the military, steal gold, get wife and land. Not a bad gig if you’re a 1700’s Spanish dude.
>The French really perma-fricked Africa didn’t they?
>imaginary Hutu-Tutsi division
>imaginary
Stop drinking the koolaid. They are visibly separate races.
Hutu pic
>hutu pic
and a pic of our favorite Tutsi
Both Uganda and Rwanda have been trying to create a Congo buffer territory for nearly 2 decades now.
I think Uganda de-facto holds some congo land they haven't returned yet
mis ancestros 🙂
good, up with Tutsis
I used to think this way, but Kagame is not a nice guy. He probably killed Juvénal Habyarimana (Though the resulting Hutu chimpout and genocide was not his fault)
The First Congo War and even Second Congo War was justifiable because of the Banyamulenge expulsion issue.
But the insurgency in Kivu is horrific and serves no good purpose. And Kagame is the the cause of the continuing conflict.
>But the insurgency in Kivu is horrific and serves no good purpose
it does serve a purpose, though, it keeps the kivus under rwanda's defacto control instead of DRC's de facto control. whether that is a good purpose or not, it's still a purpose.
>Eek Ook is going to fight Yeek Yeek over a bushel of bananas
yaaaaaawn
>Be me
>Be (mostly) benevolent dictator to my people.
>Inherit depopulated country.
>Have elite paratrooper army
>Use rebel proxies to destabilize poorer neighbor rendered pathetically weak military from decades of corruption.
>Said country has to be defended by random racist paramilitaries.
>Succeed in "Reclaiming" territory from said neighbor in short war
>Try repeating success, claim the other country still controlled by genocidal extremists
>Frick, it doesn't go well
>Basically all it's neighbor start sending gear.
>Whole thing devolves into massive stalemate.
Man, being leader of Rwanda is tough work. Pic unrelated.
Third Congo War incoming?
>Third Congo War
How many million will die this time? 10? 20?
Is congo still anywhere close Rwanda mil/econ wise or they still choking hard despite being literally 100 times larger?
Not matter what tho' my heart's with daddy Kagame's African Prussia
>Is congo still anywhere close Rwanda mil/econ wise or they still choking hard despite being literally 100 times larger?
I'm under the impression that the DRC and the Republic of Congo are a perpetual unfrickable mess.
Finally, some good fookin African head bashing. Sign me in.
>fighting in the wilderness amongst tribes
Literally a nothingburger. The only thing I want are rifle parts kits and accessories from the dead on both sides. Hell they could be from the living too I don't care.
Required reading for any interested in the shit going down in the area up until the book was written in 2012. The whole situation is a massive clusterfrick with the most heinous of warcrimes casually committed by all sides with regularity. You're looking at numbers of dead that you'd expect to see on the Eastern Front in WW2, all killed in recent memory.
My money's on the Rwandans though. They're organized, competent, and motivated. The DRC is a failed state held together by nothing but charitable donations and bad cobalt mining contracts.
It's hard to believe this book is over a decade old and it's STILL by far the best book about the conflict in the Congo conflict
Obligatory African paratroopers post.
How are Black folk capable of maintaining, flying and operating fighter jets? This is a sincere question. Do they actually have sufficiently qualified Black person engineers and mechanics and pilots, or do they outsource a lot of it to Westerners and Asians?
>Do they actually have sufficiently qualified Black person engineers and mechanics and pilots
Believe it or not, yes.
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