I forgot the details, sorry. It had something to do with getting it wet and letting it dry repeatedly. I forget if he said to use water or something else.
That’s kind of like picrel, it actually works surprisingly well. It’s thick like a shake, I bet it would work on all sorts of stone. Pretty much seems to be some powder once dry that soaks up oil. Had a bad stain in the driveway from old owner and really really cut it down in one application and gone with the 2nd coat.
I mean do a little reasearch before applying it to marble. It’s like $8-$9 a bottle at Home Depot and there’s no crazy chemical or solvent smell as far as I can tell from splashing it on my driveway. Shake it up real good, pour a glob on the stain, it dries out in a few min in the sun and leaves like a white dried clay type coating, sleep on it, sweep it up the next day and it will have sucked up a shit ton of the oil stain.
I tried other dry absorbent things that claimed you can use them on older stains and it was nowhere close at all to the yellow bottle.
I mean do a little reasearch before applying it to marble. It’s like $8-$9 a bottle at Home Depot and there’s no crazy chemical or solvent smell as far as I can tell from splashing it on my driveway. Shake it up real good, pour a glob on the stain, it dries out in a few min in the sun and leaves like a white dried clay type coating, sleep on it, sweep it up the next day and it will have sucked up a shit ton of the oil stain.
I tried other dry absorbent things that claimed you can use them on older stains and it was nowhere close at all to the yellow bottle.
Got through a couple pages of q&a and didn’t see much on granite or marble other than “test in an inconspicuous area with a small amount first” just in case it could ruin a polished finish.
It has some info on the bottle like there could be some solvent in there, but I really couldn’t smell anything, and I got some of the shit on my hands and didn’t get that cool feeling you get with solvents, it just dries and leaves a cake of the fine powder. It doesn’t seem like there’s much for harsh chemicals but it’s not my security deposit either.
You know more about stone care?
My kitchen tops are stained by water and who knows what else. I wonder what i can do. I heard you need to apply something periodically to preserve it but i'm afraid it's too late
Could be etched. There is a place on the stone that is stained by some cleaning chemical, a place scratched and a place where water stood for a long time.
this is the water
9 months ago
Anonymous
yeah major errosion/etches. This is not natural stone by the way, it's an aggregate material. Regardless the technique is the same pretty much
- Grind @ 100g or 200g to cut it flat
- Grind 400g-800g-1500g maybe 3000g to smoothen
- Polish w/ compound or hard polishing discs
- enhance or wax, not sure what's been used on there I don't do much aggregate material
- future, cease use of acid based soap scum/calcium removers
9 months ago
Anonymous
The stains were from some degreaser and the water has zero treatments. Comes straight from a well.
Could be etched. There is a place on the stone that is stained by some cleaning chemical, a place scratched and a place where water stood for a long time.
this is the water
I asked him about this, he said to use a poultice of something to draw the oil out. I think it was talcum powder or something like that.
This is correct.
OP your best bet is to buy picrel and follow the instructions carefully, multiple applications will probably be needed. If you are too cheap and willing to take a risk. You can do the following...
>CLR grease magnet (not regular clr) >Mix with baby powder until it's like peanut butter >apply, let dry, scrape and brush the dry mix once it hardens >repeat if necessary
Stonedanon, you've got about two weeks before you start getting shit on for being an actual helpful, knowledge anon. Good luck, you seemed okay.
https://i.imgur.com/TPKXYsx.jpg
Thanks anon, I'm writing this down in my notes so I can pass it on.
Happy to help. I have thick skin for PrepHole, it's been many years. I work for rich people who don't care what 20 years of experimenting and learning from old farts has taught me, so any chance to share my little bit of wisdom is fun for me. For OP I can't stress enough to buy that product and don't go for the cheapo option, it's really really hard to remove talcum powder mix vs the product. You should get some razorblades while you are on Amazon buying the mangia macchia
Depends on the stone, but I typically recommend LITHOFIN stain stop or MN or PSI which are all the same product but they have rebranded many times.
Basically you want a solvent based sealer that has very small polymers to allow penetration.
>clean surface >allow to dry >apply sealer >let sit for 10 min >if it dries up in 10 min re-apply >if its still pooled up you soak up the excess with a rag >follow by buffing final excess with microfibers >repeat every 2-4 years depending on the location.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I was looking at Dry Treat Stain Proof. Its a commercial sealer used for outdoor slate, but it also works on marble/granite. I need to seal some marble countertops soon so I am looking for the best product out there. Any thoughts on this vs. Lithofin?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not familiar with the product, sorry. One red flag for me is that it's for exterior stone, pavers, polished stone etc. I don't like 'jack of all trades' products. I swap to other sealer types for very porous stone for example, and the PSI for high density stones. Even my colour enhancers are designer for 2 specific families of granite. I'd read reviews thoroughly and test in an inconspicuous area before committing. Still I'd recommend Lithofin if you want guarenteed no headaches on marble.
Brake cleaner.
It’s not acidic so it won’t hurt marble.
I may hurt you, I’ve never used it inside the house.
I bought the chlorinated (banned) stuff before it was unobtainium.
Anyway, just jump right to the vancomycin instead of pussyfooting around.
If you get any on your hands they will turn white because it stripped off all the natural oils on your skin.
I tried brake cleaner on the spots on my driveway, it was nowhere near as effective as this stuff
https://i.imgur.com/QxwH5rN.jpg
That’s kind of like picrel, it actually works surprisingly well. It’s thick like a shake, I bet it would work on all sorts of stone. Pretty much seems to be some powder once dry that soaks up oil. Had a bad stain in the driveway from old owner and really really cut it down in one application and gone with the 2nd coat.
Simple green, brake cleaner, litter, other dry spill stuff, nothing really made a dent beside that goo off stuff.
Polished granite and marble are porous? I know obviously concrete, but I thought stone just needs a quick wipe and la dee da.
Guess you could try the 'ol dish soap soak and kitty litter method before getting more in-depth, but doesn't the rock pattern hide it enough anyway?
no it isn't hidden, if i had a better camera i would post a pic.. its super obvious.
if water sits on it it turns dark the same way, but then evaporates
I disagree. Most polishing processes for calcite/limestone materials use mild acids which effectively do close up the pores during the polishing process. With higher density natural quartz and even some granites, resin discs and pressure are used to polish, which also plugs a significant amount of the pores. So yeah, if you took a honed marble and a polished marble and put a drop of some contaminant on top, it would more quickly pull into the honed material (usually). Just my 2cents.
WTF did you do to get a grease spot on it? I've got a black granite surface plate that I used for assembly that I only clean on leap years and I've never managed to stain it.
for oil stains on the driveway i use dawn diatomaceous earth and water mix fully cover stain let sit for 24 hours expect the applied area to be lighter color for a few days.
Hey based stone autist, know anything about cement driveways or garages with a smoother finish? I’m gonna try the goof off soon for the driveway, cat litter has only taken me so far
Just want to get rid of oil stains if it’s not too labor intensive, I have other stuff to work on before I can get around to doing something like grinding it down. I’m in south Texas, hot and humid. Plz respond
Oil stains are next to rust with regards to difficulty of removal. If the are very old the may not come out entirely. Process I recommend for exterior is above using clr grease magnet, see post
https://i.imgur.com/uKj4fHX.jpg
Yup that's me.
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This is correct.
OP your best bet is to buy picrel and follow the instructions carefully, multiple applications will probably be needed. If you are too cheap and willing to take a risk. You can do the following...
>CLR grease magnet (not regular clr) >Mix with baby powder until it's like peanut butter >apply, let dry, scrape and brush the dry mix once it hardens >repeat if necessary
Then pressure wash of course. Using dawn or other strong degreasers is also recommended if you don't want to go the poultice route.
I have a large concrete stamped patio and I use picrel to wash it evenly without streaking. It's called a spinner.
there's an autistic stone counter guy who posts all the time, i am sure he will be here soon to help.
Thanks anon, plan on getting my 1200 deposit back when i move out
Make sure you video the final inspection, focusing on the landlord and especially the floor where he walks before and after he walks there.
I asked him about this, he said to use a poultice of something to draw the oil out. I think it was talcum powder or something like that.
frick its worth a shot, need i rub it in or smash in onto the spot or simply sprinkle it?
I forgot the details, sorry. It had something to do with getting it wet and letting it dry repeatedly. I forget if he said to use water or something else.
That’s kind of like picrel, it actually works surprisingly well. It’s thick like a shake, I bet it would work on all sorts of stone. Pretty much seems to be some powder once dry that soaks up oil. Had a bad stain in the driveway from old owner and really really cut it down in one application and gone with the 2nd coat.
Thanks !
I mean do a little reasearch before applying it to marble. It’s like $8-$9 a bottle at Home Depot and there’s no crazy chemical or solvent smell as far as I can tell from splashing it on my driveway. Shake it up real good, pour a glob on the stain, it dries out in a few min in the sun and leaves like a white dried clay type coating, sleep on it, sweep it up the next day and it will have sucked up a shit ton of the oil stain.
I tried other dry absorbent things that claimed you can use them on older stains and it was nowhere close at all to the yellow bottle.
>sleep on it
>PrepHole
do not actually spend the night laying on it
…as in leave that shit dried on top of the oil stain overnight and come sweep it up tomorrow.
Not terrible human hair is great at soaking and moving oil. most shampoos are desgined to remove skin oil from hair.
Got through a couple pages of q&a and didn’t see much on granite or marble other than “test in an inconspicuous area with a small amount first” just in case it could ruin a polished finish.
It has some info on the bottle like there could be some solvent in there, but I really couldn’t smell anything, and I got some of the shit on my hands and didn’t get that cool feeling you get with solvents, it just dries and leaves a cake of the fine powder. It doesn’t seem like there’s much for harsh chemicals but it’s not my security deposit either.
You know more about stone care?
My kitchen tops are stained by water and who knows what else. I wonder what i can do. I heard you need to apply something periodically to preserve it but i'm afraid it's too late
Pics? "stained by water" is usually what people say when they have etches.
Could be etched. There is a place on the stone that is stained by some cleaning chemical, a place scratched and a place where water stood for a long time.
this is the water
yeah major errosion/etches. This is not natural stone by the way, it's an aggregate material. Regardless the technique is the same pretty much
- Grind @ 100g or 200g to cut it flat
- Grind 400g-800g-1500g maybe 3000g to smoothen
- Polish w/ compound or hard polishing discs
- enhance or wax, not sure what's been used on there I don't do much aggregate material
- future, cease use of acid based soap scum/calcium removers
The stains were from some degreaser and the water has zero treatments. Comes straight from a well.
have you attempted a razorblade on it?
Not yet.
this is the stain and scratches
Yup that's me.
This is correct.
OP your best bet is to buy picrel and follow the instructions carefully, multiple applications will probably be needed. If you are too cheap and willing to take a risk. You can do the following...
>CLR grease magnet (not regular clr)
>Mix with baby powder until it's like peanut butter
>apply, let dry, scrape and brush the dry mix once it hardens
>repeat if necessary
based autist stone counter guy
Happy to help. I have thick skin for PrepHole, it's been many years. I work for rich people who don't care what 20 years of experimenting and learning from old farts has taught me, so any chance to share my little bit of wisdom is fun for me. For OP I can't stress enough to buy that product and don't go for the cheapo option, it's really really hard to remove talcum powder mix vs the product. You should get some razorblades while you are on Amazon buying the mangia macchia
What is the best marble sealet that you recommend?
Depends on the stone, but I typically recommend LITHOFIN stain stop or MN or PSI which are all the same product but they have rebranded many times.
Basically you want a solvent based sealer that has very small polymers to allow penetration.
>clean surface
>allow to dry
>apply sealer
>let sit for 10 min
>if it dries up in 10 min re-apply
>if its still pooled up you soak up the excess with a rag
>follow by buffing final excess with microfibers
>repeat every 2-4 years depending on the location.
I was looking at Dry Treat Stain Proof. Its a commercial sealer used for outdoor slate, but it also works on marble/granite. I need to seal some marble countertops soon so I am looking for the best product out there. Any thoughts on this vs. Lithofin?
I'm not familiar with the product, sorry. One red flag for me is that it's for exterior stone, pavers, polished stone etc. I don't like 'jack of all trades' products. I swap to other sealer types for very porous stone for example, and the PSI for high density stones. Even my colour enhancers are designer for 2 specific families of granite. I'd read reviews thoroughly and test in an inconspicuous area before committing. Still I'd recommend Lithofin if you want guarenteed no headaches on marble.
Stonedanon, you've got about two weeks before you start getting shit on for being an actual helpful, knowledge anon. Good luck, you seemed okay.
Thanks anon, I'm writing this down in my notes so I can pass it on.
Brake cleaner.
It’s not acidic so it won’t hurt marble.
I may hurt you, I’ve never used it inside the house.
I bought the chlorinated (banned) stuff before it was unobtainium.
Anyway, just jump right to the vancomycin instead of pussyfooting around.
If you get any on your hands they will turn white because it stripped off all the natural oils on your skin.
>I may hurt you
But please spare the children, anon.
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I tried brake cleaner on the spots on my driveway, it was nowhere near as effective as this stuff
Simple green, brake cleaner, litter, other dry spill stuff, nothing really made a dent beside that goo off stuff.
Polished granite and marble are porous? I know obviously concrete, but I thought stone just needs a quick wipe and la dee da.
Guess you could try the 'ol dish soap soak and kitty litter method before getting more in-depth, but doesn't the rock pattern hide it enough anyway?
no it isn't hidden, if i had a better camera i would post a pic.. its super obvious.
if water sits on it it turns dark the same way, but then evaporates
All natural stone is porous. Polishing it does not fill and seal pores.
If you want non-porous countertops go with good quality quartz or stainless steel. Laminate and solid surface work as well.
I disagree. Most polishing processes for calcite/limestone materials use mild acids which effectively do close up the pores during the polishing process. With higher density natural quartz and even some granites, resin discs and pressure are used to polish, which also plugs a significant amount of the pores. So yeah, if you took a honed marble and a polished marble and put a drop of some contaminant on top, it would more quickly pull into the honed material (usually). Just my 2cents.
WTF did you do to get a grease spot on it? I've got a black granite surface plate that I used for assembly that I only clean on leap years and I've never managed to stain it.
Put lye on grease, put a bit of water on it should foam up and you can mop it away
for oil stains on the driveway i use dawn diatomaceous earth and water mix fully cover stain let sit for 24 hours expect the applied area to be lighter color for a few days.
This is what we use at work but it's pricey. Don Bailey of Suburban Tool Inc recommends ammonia and nothing else.
Hey based stone autist, know anything about cement driveways or garages with a smoother finish? I’m gonna try the goof off soon for the driveway, cat litter has only taken me so far
What specifically are you looking to do? Clean the cement? Grind it smoother? Seal it with colour and top coat? Your climate?
Just want to get rid of oil stains if it’s not too labor intensive, I have other stuff to work on before I can get around to doing something like grinding it down. I’m in south Texas, hot and humid. Plz respond
Oil stains are next to rust with regards to difficulty of removal. If the are very old the may not come out entirely. Process I recommend for exterior is above using clr grease magnet, see post
Then pressure wash of course. Using dawn or other strong degreasers is also recommended if you don't want to go the poultice route.
I have a large concrete stamped patio and I use picrel to wash it evenly without streaking. It's called a spinner.
Thanks. I'll post a picture of my results. Do you have any experience with Goof Off concrete cleaner?
what process and products do you recommend for coloring and sealing cement?
shit that's me, i didnt realize you recommended the stain eater first over the CLR grease magnet. will that work on cement as well?
Is this the same stuff as in the one with the black label? Having a hard time finding the black label readily available.
Some of the stains I’m dealing with
Any sealers that can stop the radiation coming out of the granite? I’m not even sure if my countertops are sealed at all.
This is what happens when you take your tiles for granite