>The results speak for themselves.
so *shit pathetic*
and you literally got laughed out of the region?
got it
https://i.imgur.com/zKzYFnT.jpg
in GAyToe operations, especially when its all the militaries that don't matter (like everyone except USA and UK cause we speak Engrish) can a higher ranking guy order around a lower ranking guy of different nation, when they are on "joint ops"?
How joint are ops? given none of the nations have much military?
When I was at a "very good school" in grammar school and we had lots of Euro kids with professional parents in USA for various reasons, one thing that jumped out is the kids didn't know shit about climbing trees or making sling shots or riding bike off road, but they did have extensive knowledge of not just WTF there nation/tribe was, but who their 100s of year old enemies were, and shit like soccer fan brawls might be in fact based on WTF happened between troops of Dutch VS Spanish towns from 1600s or some shit.
Seems like all that would make modern day fake and gay Gay-Toe cooperation problematic, if shit every got real.
Do they do some thing were they say "OK, now in Uniform Chain of Command but WTF with all the diff languages? Does anyone that matters have to speak English?
the op is a fake gayot fraud sailor par for the course, and they cannot and will not answer this question, because its one that has always and will always plague the goofy nature of 'combined nato forces'
can you literally imagine hilarious problems language would cause between *enlisteds* of (insert euro pissant nations)? it would be a comedy in and of itself
Not OP but If they’re under your COC you absolutely can tell them to do shit. It just doesn’t happen all that often at small scale, outside of training.
Your failure to understand how NATO operates does not make NATO ineffective. The US and its Allies worked with different languages completely fine during the initial invasion of Kuwait. Forces were organized to make language pretty much a non-issue.
>can you literally imagine hilarious problems language would cause between *enlisteds* of (insert euro pissant nations)?
I was aboard a JMSDF ship one time and I asked them if they had any issues communicating with the U.S. Navy because of language issues and they said no because they use NATO codes. You know, alpha romeo juliet whatever.
Dude the internet was nothing like it is now. Stop glowing. In fact not everyone had internet and smartphones were just starting to hit over the flip phones. How old are you anyway? Also why start shit with me on a thread that OP is a no show on anyway?
>Hot-racking was also bullshit.
that shit absolutely kills any desire I ever had to join the Navy, long as patrols and not even an inch of space to call your own? Sod that.
>We have movies that play via site TV but people just mainly rely on the movies/“movies” downloaded on their phones.
I assume you gotta get them while you're at port, right? While you still got free internet access cause they're aint such a thing while out on deployment.
We don’t get internet for recreational purposes on the destroyer. That’s just a carrier thing.
How much shipboard personal agency are you allowed?
Do you get given an area to patrol, and then get to decide schedules and routes and day life plans according to the specific crew culture, or is it all pretty inflexible passed down from higher up?
Yeah, officers get a level of autonomy but you’re so fricking busy that it doesn’t really matter.
>Yeah, officers get a level of autonomy but you’re so fricking busy that it doesn’t really matter.
I more meant in regards to the running of the ship and the prosecution of orders or instructions. >Eg. You're given Picrel to patrol for foreign Navy. Say, picket boats with RPG's and AK's. >Could you; Plot your own patrol course, organize your ship timetable to account for people's preferred waking hours, sleeping hours and daily duties, alter the expected standard of conduct of crew aboard the vessel to fit the requirements of these specific crew members, and take on extra supplies or materials not related to the prosecution of a military endeavor, but not significantly crippling or risking it?
Or is it all pretty cut and dry about what you can or cannot do?
>As I've mentioned before, will not answer anything stupid or classified.
Sweet. What's the engagement range of a sea skimmer that is not a slant engagement.
Be sure to include the CEC engagement ranges as well.
I was at a Naval shipyard and there were packs of "USN" female Chinese officers speaking Chinese among themselves in front of various dumb White, Black, Mex and mystery meat enlisted and even officers who clearly didn't speak Chinese.
Will that be a factor in the planned war with China?
How are multi-national formations managed? Do you have officers from other navies that come on board, or is someone else just in charge of doing the language/procedures translations?
Aren't you worried that senile joe will get you all killed over some stupid bullshit because he forgot where a country is or what old person pills he needed to take that morning? He seems like the least confidence inspiring commander in chief in a long time.
He has flashbacks to the cold war thinking Helmut Kohl is still in charge (and alive I guess). So I'm that respect it's lucky we're still in conflict with Russia so the nukes will be sent to the right place.
How much shipboard personal agency are you allowed?
Do you get given an area to patrol, and then get to decide schedules and routes and day life plans according to the specific crew culture, or is it all pretty inflexible passed down from higher up?
Us sub guys always wondered the same thing, but it is the way it is because of the nature of the mission. In subs we were meant to be out of sight. Surface guys are constantly in the limelight. We used to have beard growing competitions on the boat, hardly in uniform, wore sneakers...etc.
Not OP or that anon, but I realized a few years back that submarines are in fact goated with the sauce. Pretty much devoured HI Sutton and read everything I can about nuke boats.
Any good stories, bubble head?
Know of any decent books on the development and operations of the LA class in particular?
I was like 9 when I first saw "One Ping Only Pleashe" and since then the LA class has always been my favorite. Always looking for good literature on the silent service.
NTA, but I remember a time in '99 or so that we played cat and mouse with an Oscar II, spent the better part of three months rigged for ultraquiet, got chased by what seemed like the entire USN, and then went home early with three tubes loaded because (according to the skipper) there was a non-zero chance that we were going to sink a Russian boat in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. All of this was highly unusual for an American submarine during that era, particularly a boomer.
Best patrol ever in retrospect. Some of the wild west shenanigans in the immediate post-9/11 navy were amusing, but my last boomer patrol was something else.
in GAyToe operations, especially when its all the militaries that don't matter (like everyone except USA and UK cause we speak Engrish) can a higher ranking guy order around a lower ranking guy of different nation, when they are on "joint ops"?
How joint are ops? given none of the nations have much military?
When I was at a "very good school" in grammar school and we had lots of Euro kids with professional parents in USA for various reasons, one thing that jumped out is the kids didn't know shit about climbing trees or making sling shots or riding bike off road, but they did have extensive knowledge of not just WTF there nation/tribe was, but who their 100s of year old enemies were, and shit like soccer fan brawls might be in fact based on WTF happened between troops of Dutch VS Spanish towns from 1600s or some shit.
Seems like all that would make modern day fake and gay Gay-Toe cooperation problematic, if shit every got real.
Do they do some thing were they say "OK, now in Uniform Chain of Command but WTF with all the diff languages? Does anyone that matters have to speak English?
FYI to all OP and all other Navy vets in this thread: you guys should get a toxic exposure examination at your local VA. You're more likely to be exposed to asbestos than any other branch.
https://www.knowva.ebenefits.va.gov/system/templates/selfservice/va_ssnew/help/customer/locale/en-US/portal/554400000001018/content/554400000177463/M21-1-Part-VIII-Subpart-iii-Chapter-7-Section-C-Evaluating-Evidence-of-Asbestos-Exposure
https://www.myhealth.va.gov/mhv-portal-web/ss20221110-get-the-new-toxic-exposure-screening?redirect=%2Fmhv-portal-web%2Fhome
Also get a screening if you are or were in an MOS that has you around occupational hazards like industrial solvents, fuel, radiation, PCBs, CARC paint, PFAS, lead, etc.
https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/categories/occupational-hazards.asp
Anon, if you're a veteran and were actually exposed to CARC paint, then contact your local VA facility and schedule a toxic exposure screening.
https://www.myhealth.va.gov/mhv-portal-web/ss20221110-get-the-new-toxic-exposure-screening?redirect=%2Fmhv-portal-web%2Fhome
I'm fricking serious anon. Go get checked out. Even if you're the most moronic shitposter on the board, I don't want to see you die of cancer. I also don't want to have to work the service-connected burial claim filed by your next of kin.
Do Navy O's like Master and Commander? My real question with 9 years enlisted trying to be selected for Fy24/Fy25, is how do prior E's fit in? I'm an HM, so all of my time with non medical officers have been with Marines, and I imagine the culture is somewhat different amongst the respective officer communities. I'm hoping to either become a become an SNA/NFO or maybe a SWO failing that.
all the mustangs I know from the pilot community are solid and very squared away dudes. >sna/nfo route
get the scores for sna, much more rewarding, otherwise you're gonna be fighting for an e2/p8 window seat for the rest of your life. If/when you get to pilot training make sure you go hard in contacts during primary. because it's the introductory portion the standards are lower and if you want a good nss you absolutely need to stand out from the beginning. Also ask to get prof advanced. and if you're lucky, you can go to corpus and maybe be a part of one of the avenger classes and not have to do a normal syllabus
Do you recommend being a swo?
I’m almost done with my first contract but I spent all of it in nsw on teams but I want to finish my degree and try to commission as a swo. Is the ship culture shitty? What department are you in currently?
Why is the Coast Guard so much better put together, wholesome, efficient and sane than the USN? Where did the rot start and how did the Coasties dodge the bullet that is the egg hat insane asylum?
In broad terms, who decides what weapons to use? Is that something the captain orders? The officer in charge of the weapons system or someone else? Or does Aegis decide itself? Like if pirates are in a boat, who decides to use the 5inch, the CWIS or lol hit em with an SM-2 because frick em?
Not OP but all that stuff is usually decided before the ship even gets on station. Threat assessments are made way ahead of time by gathering all types of intelligence.
They only have seconds or minutes at most during an attack, there’s no time for indecision. So the crews main job during an incoming attack is to accurately determine what the threat actually is, their systems then take care of the rest.
What do you think of frigate sized drone/heli carriers to replace frigates or destroyers in low intesity conflicts like anti priacy missions or as submarine hunters?
I know the navy has an impressive infectious disease program and directly commissions doctors
But they’d never take me if I’m a weak useless spaghetti spilling homosexual, right? Tolerance for eggheads being dumb must only go so far
Where do they get put in anyways? Mostly land institutes?
I'm pretty autistic and I've done pretty well for myself in the Navy. Two of the best officers I've actually ever met were direct commision biochemists.
>will not answer anything stupid
I'm sorry if this crosses that line, but is the Navy really as attractive to gay men as it is made out to be, or would you say that its completely untrue?
How do you rate the performance of the Navy against the Houthis/Iranians so far
The results speak for themselves. Of the hundreds of missiles fired at our ships, have any of them hit?
>The results speak for themselves.
so *shit pathetic*
and you literally got laughed out of the region?
got it
the op is a fake gayot fraud sailor par for the course, and they cannot and will not answer this question, because its one that has always and will always plague the goofy nature of 'combined nato forces'
can you literally imagine hilarious problems language would cause between *enlisteds* of (insert euro pissant nations)? it would be a comedy in and of itself
Not OP but If they’re under your COC you absolutely can tell them to do shit. It just doesn’t happen all that often at small scale, outside of training.
Your failure to understand how NATO operates does not make NATO ineffective. The US and its Allies worked with different languages completely fine during the initial invasion of Kuwait. Forces were organized to make language pretty much a non-issue.
>can you literally imagine hilarious problems language would cause between *enlisteds* of (insert euro pissant nations)?
I was aboard a JMSDF ship one time and I asked them if they had any issues communicating with the U.S. Navy because of language issues and they said no because they use NATO codes. You know, alpha romeo juliet whatever.
>You know, alpha romeo juliet whatever.
More like arpha, lomeo, juriet
Former squid here. How can you live with yourself still serving a country that wont serve it's veterans?
>DD214=Honorable
>STS2
>LA Class
We must write a letter to the Tsar, he will hear our plea.
>wont serve it's veterans
How comically naive are you people.
I joined when I was 18 during the "wAr On TerRor" I didn't know shit then.
They had the internet back then homie. You have nobody to blame but yourself.
Dude the internet was nothing like it is now. Stop glowing. In fact not everyone had internet and smartphones were just starting to hit over the flip phones. How old are you anyway? Also why start shit with me on a thread that OP is a no show on anyway?
>responsibility for your actions is glowie talk
hmmmmm
STS1 here, Virginia class, how can you be such a disappointment? Especially getting out as a second class? You messed up somewhere.
b***h and moan. Was the pension, college money and free healthcare for life not enough? $10 you're not even American.
Why are ex sailors such buttholes?
Being in the military, specifically the Navy for several years can kinda screw with your social skills.
What he said.
>Why are ex sailors such buttholes?
They have a lot of experience in dealing with buttholes
The most miserable person I've ever met in my life was a aircraft carrier nuke and he claimed go have ptsd from the boat turning
Same, I annoyed him so much over Skype that he tried to break in and kill me
How do you stay sane stuck on a boat with those tiny hallways. Subs seem even worse.
I am 6'2" and it was not fun. Hot-racking was also bullshit.
>Hot-racking was also bullshit.
that shit absolutely kills any desire I ever had to join the Navy, long as patrols and not even an inch of space to call your own? Sod that.
You go nuts once but then you get over it. It’s not that bad on a DDG. Only in the yards have I gotten claustrophobic.
Hilarious.
Food is awesome. We have movies that play via site TV but people just mainly rely on the movies/“movies” downloaded on their phones.
>We have movies that play via site TV but people just mainly rely on the movies/“movies” downloaded on their phones.
I assume you gotta get them while you're at port, right? While you still got free internet access cause they're aint such a thing while out on deployment.
We don’t get internet for recreational purposes on the destroyer. That’s just a carrier thing.
Yeah, officers get a level of autonomy but you’re so fricking busy that it doesn’t really matter.
>Yeah, officers get a level of autonomy but you’re so fricking busy that it doesn’t really matter.
I more meant in regards to the running of the ship and the prosecution of orders or instructions.
>Eg. You're given Picrel to patrol for foreign Navy. Say, picket boats with RPG's and AK's.
>Could you; Plot your own patrol course, organize your ship timetable to account for people's preferred waking hours, sleeping hours and daily duties, alter the expected standard of conduct of crew aboard the vessel to fit the requirements of these specific crew members, and take on extra supplies or materials not related to the prosecution of a military endeavor, but not significantly crippling or risking it?
Or is it all pretty cut and dry about what you can or cannot do?
>As I've mentioned before, will not answer anything stupid or classified.
Sweet. What's the engagement range of a sea skimmer that is not a slant engagement.
Be sure to include the CEC engagement ranges as well.
Thoughts on the Russian Black Sea fleet getting fricked?
How is the food aboard? What kind of entertainment do you have access to?
I was at a Naval shipyard and there were packs of "USN" female Chinese officers speaking Chinese among themselves in front of various dumb White, Black, Mex and mystery meat enlisted and even officers who clearly didn't speak Chinese.
Will that be a factor in the planned war with China?
Also, who do you feel about USS Liberty?
How are multi-national formations managed? Do you have officers from other navies that come on board, or is someone else just in charge of doing the language/procedures translations?
Aren't you worried that senile joe will get you all killed over some stupid bullshit because he forgot where a country is or what old person pills he needed to take that morning? He seems like the least confidence inspiring commander in chief in a long time.
Morale must be in the toilet.
He has flashbacks to the cold war thinking Helmut Kohl is still in charge (and alive I guess). So I'm that respect it's lucky we're still in conflict with Russia so the nukes will be sent to the right place.
>Morale must be in the toilet.
I am John Smith from Ohio oblast and I can truly confirm that morale is in the ass.
I’m telling your S2
How much shipboard personal agency are you allowed?
Do you get given an area to patrol, and then get to decide schedules and routes and day life plans according to the specific crew culture, or is it all pretty inflexible passed down from higher up?
Why is the surface navy so toxic? Why is literally everybody else cooler than you guys?
Us sub guys always wondered the same thing, but it is the way it is because of the nature of the mission. In subs we were meant to be out of sight. Surface guys are constantly in the limelight. We used to have beard growing competitions on the boat, hardly in uniform, wore sneakers...etc.
Not OP or that anon, but I realized a few years back that submarines are in fact goated with the sauce. Pretty much devoured HI Sutton and read everything I can about nuke boats.
Any good stories, bubble head?
Know of any decent books on the development and operations of the LA class in particular?
I was like 9 when I first saw "One Ping Only Pleashe" and since then the LA class has always been my favorite. Always looking for good literature on the silent service.
NTA, but I remember a time in '99 or so that we played cat and mouse with an Oscar II, spent the better part of three months rigged for ultraquiet, got chased by what seemed like the entire USN, and then went home early with three tubes loaded because (according to the skipper) there was a non-zero chance that we were going to sink a Russian boat in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. All of this was highly unusual for an American submarine during that era, particularly a boomer.
Best patrol ever in retrospect. Some of the wild west shenanigans in the immediate post-9/11 navy were amusing, but my last boomer patrol was something else.
in GAyToe operations, especially when its all the militaries that don't matter (like everyone except USA and UK cause we speak Engrish) can a higher ranking guy order around a lower ranking guy of different nation, when they are on "joint ops"?
How joint are ops? given none of the nations have much military?
When I was at a "very good school" in grammar school and we had lots of Euro kids with professional parents in USA for various reasons, one thing that jumped out is the kids didn't know shit about climbing trees or making sling shots or riding bike off road, but they did have extensive knowledge of not just WTF there nation/tribe was, but who their 100s of year old enemies were, and shit like soccer fan brawls might be in fact based on WTF happened between troops of Dutch VS Spanish towns from 1600s or some shit.
Seems like all that would make modern day fake and gay Gay-Toe cooperation problematic, if shit every got real.
Do they do some thing were they say "OK, now in Uniform Chain of Command but WTF with all the diff languages? Does anyone that matters have to speak English?
So…is the Commander like God or more like a CEO?
How many powerpoint hours per week?
FYI to all OP and all other Navy vets in this thread: you guys should get a toxic exposure examination at your local VA. You're more likely to be exposed to asbestos than any other branch.
https://www.knowva.ebenefits.va.gov/system/templates/selfservice/va_ssnew/help/customer/locale/en-US/portal/554400000001018/content/554400000177463/M21-1-Part-VIII-Subpart-iii-Chapter-7-Section-C-Evaluating-Evidence-of-Asbestos-Exposure
https://www.myhealth.va.gov/mhv-portal-web/ss20221110-get-the-new-toxic-exposure-screening?redirect=%2Fmhv-portal-web%2Fhome
Also get a screening if you are or were in an MOS that has you around occupational hazards like industrial solvents, fuel, radiation, PCBs, CARC paint, PFAS, lead, etc.
https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/categories/occupational-hazards.asp
t.VA employee
>CARC paint is carcinogenic
I'm gonna fricking die
Anon, if you're a veteran and were actually exposed to CARC paint, then contact your local VA facility and schedule a toxic exposure screening.
https://www.myhealth.va.gov/mhv-portal-web/ss20221110-get-the-new-toxic-exposure-screening?redirect=%2Fmhv-portal-web%2Fhome
I'm fricking serious anon. Go get checked out. Even if you're the most moronic shitposter on the board, I don't want to see you die of cancer. I also don't want to have to work the service-connected burial claim filed by your next of kin.
>Even if you're the most moronic shitposter on the board, I don't want to see you die of cancer
what if he is the ‘yeah’ poster
yeah
I don't even wish death on the yeah poster. Not to mention the yeah poster dying from an SC disability would just give me more work.
Have you talked your captain into using the radar arrays as a microwave?
Why are u gae
When you’re in the bed area, are you a smart fella? Or a fart smella?
best holiday chow youre looking forward to next couple months?
Do Navy O's like Master and Commander? My real question with 9 years enlisted trying to be selected for Fy24/Fy25, is how do prior E's fit in? I'm an HM, so all of my time with non medical officers have been with Marines, and I imagine the culture is somewhat different amongst the respective officer communities. I'm hoping to either become a become an SNA/NFO or maybe a SWO failing that.
all the mustangs I know from the pilot community are solid and very squared away dudes.
>sna/nfo route
get the scores for sna, much more rewarding, otherwise you're gonna be fighting for an e2/p8 window seat for the rest of your life. If/when you get to pilot training make sure you go hard in contacts during primary. because it's the introductory portion the standards are lower and if you want a good nss you absolutely need to stand out from the beginning. Also ask to get prof advanced. and if you're lucky, you can go to corpus and maybe be a part of one of the avenger classes and not have to do a normal syllabus
You sound like a former JORG
Do you recommend being a swo?
I’m almost done with my first contract but I spent all of it in nsw on teams but I want to finish my degree and try to commission as a swo. Is the ship culture shitty? What department are you in currently?
>answer anything stupid or classified.
Do you know this Officer?
why the frick would he know a squid?
Can I get a job on your ship?
I'm an PO2 frick ya mudda
Have you ever fugged on the ship at sea?
>SWO
triggered
do you guys ever shoot off SM-3s for laughs after dinner if everyone is bored
No, but we enable CIWS tracking when civvie planes fly over, and that shit is funny as frick
Why is the Coast Guard so much better put together, wholesome, efficient and sane than the USN? Where did the rot start and how did the Coasties dodge the bullet that is the egg hat insane asylum?
Is the sea a harsh mistress?
In broad terms, who decides what weapons to use? Is that something the captain orders? The officer in charge of the weapons system or someone else? Or does Aegis decide itself? Like if pirates are in a boat, who decides to use the 5inch, the CWIS or lol hit em with an SM-2 because frick em?
Not OP but all that stuff is usually decided before the ship even gets on station. Threat assessments are made way ahead of time by gathering all types of intelligence.
They only have seconds or minutes at most during an attack, there’s no time for indecision. So the crews main job during an incoming attack is to accurately determine what the threat actually is, their systems then take care of the rest.
What do you think of frigate sized drone/heli carriers to replace frigates or destroyers in low intesity conflicts like anti priacy missions or as submarine hunters?
What skills does one need to make it to O-6?
What's better:
O-3 to Congressman
making it to Admiral
How bad are the bloodshrooms on your ship?
Do surface warfare officers or fighter pilots have the hottest wives?
I know the navy has an impressive infectious disease program and directly commissions doctors
But they’d never take me if I’m a weak useless spaghetti spilling homosexual, right? Tolerance for eggheads being dumb must only go so far
Where do they get put in anyways? Mostly land institutes?
I'm pretty autistic and I've done pretty well for myself in the Navy. Two of the best officers I've actually ever met were direct commision biochemists.
if you're a doc you will work at a naval hospital and do rotations on a ship or abroad. become a flight doc, you get to do some shenanigans in the t6
can you spend 9000 hours in ms paint and give me an approximate floorplan for your ship? I can only find older, ww2 stuff.
Did you get pozzed before or after crossing the equator
>will not answer anything stupid
I'm sorry if this crosses that line, but is the Navy really as attractive to gay men as it is made out to be, or would you say that its completely untrue?