Why is mystery ranch gear so expensive?
The black Jack backpack are fricking thousand dollars backpacks
For the high end rucks eberlestock seems a better choice, what are some other good brands for 3 day packs and long range packs? I know hillpeoples gear and kifaru, but hpg has the same prices as eberlestock and the latter seems better
Because I'm going to assume they are American made. Lots of materials are used to make them, and I'll bet it takes a long fricking time to sew all that up.
Man look at the bugmen swarm.
Its the diversity premium. Blacks, Beaners and other undesirables are employed to sew this shit together in the US.
You could also buy Chinese for a fraction of the price, but that would be very unpatriotic is it?
troony larper gtfo and kys. This shit was made in white Montana by fine folks in Bozeman. Keyword was *was* anyway, OP. It's a status thing now.
>they are probably the best packs out there
>durable, high quality materials, so also heavy
>american made
Eberlestock is almost as good too, but asian made therefore cheaper, but still $$$ because of materials, quality and durability.
Misery ranch
Because that's how much homosexual LARPers will pay. Don't make the mistake of thinking prices reflect costs.
t. vintage external framegay
I paid none.
>Why is mystery ranch gear so expensive?
It's a mystery.
>savotta
>kifaru
>karimorrsf
I dont own their military line so i cant speak to that but i do own 2 bags of their hunting line, The Marshall and the Sawtooth. Same frame.
Its made in vietnam but absolutely bomb proof, lifetime warranty. I packed out 2 entire elk 9 miles from the truck and 2 deer last year alone, and i got some squeeks, but nary a stitch busted. Some people find them uncomfortable, but thats a personal thing. They work for me. At one point i had 130 pounds of meat loaded in mine, couldn't even stand. And it held. After that i was sold on Mystery Ranch.
Yeah, see, you're not a LARPer, you're someone who has an actual need for an expensive bag you're going to use year after year to its limit. For you it makes perfect sense to drop that kind of money on a proper tool.
That shit is not good gear. Most tactical bags are fricking ass, just as a rule, get into gear made by thru hikers. It actually gets used for what it's advertised for.
Well they often skip durability for weight reduction and other nifty features so to be honest most thru hiker gear even from the good cottage companies will only last you a couple of years of heavy use. They're good at their purpose but there is the difference between them and "military" style. They're not designed to crash through thorn bushes and get beaten up, they're designed to walk on a trail. So I don't know why you think you're smart for suggesting something that's a completely different category. Maybe get barbie backpacks because they're cuter? That's important too right?
For SHTF not looking military is a Very Good Idea since anyone not moronic wants tasty pickups. You won't always see your opponent or even know who he/she/xir is. Dressing like a milsurp store is begging to get harvested.
Yeah, no one was talking about that. Take your autism pills. There's a time when you want a rugged ruck and a time when you want a comfy light one.
The thing about a pack big enough to carry supplies for multiple days, food, shelter, a sleep system, cooking, meds, clothing, ect. Is it's going to stick out no matter what kind of pack you have. If things have degenerated to the point where people are just picking off strangers to take their stuff or there's armed checkpoints or something you're getting noticed either way.
But mystery ranch bags are actually very comfortable for being tactical bags, and some with the benefits of most tactical bags- lots of pockets to organize thing, bomb proof and modular. I wouldn’t suggest them for everything and not for normal hiking applications, but if you want a tactical bag they’re a good go to.
>t. have had a few issued mystery ranch bags and enjoyed them all.
>$1000 bag
>not even waterproof
Man you LARPers are dumb cucks.
>Why is mystery ranch gear so expensive?
>The black Jack backpack are fricking thousand dollars backpacks
Their super expensive models are normally using expensive components to achieve minor decreases in weight while retaining durability. Dyneema fabrics, carbon fiber stays instead of polymer or aluminum. Nice if you absolutely need that or have the money to burn but not essential. I'm not a huge fan of eberlestock just in terms of comfort, even comparing it to other huge tactical packs.
LARP shit go buy a high L osprey bag and call it a day
ANON, be careful. They make a lot of shit in Vietnam now. Their chink shit is way overpriced and their USA made stuff is ok but not the greatest. They got a little gay over the years.
Cannae is better and cheaper you absolute poorgay
Cannae went out. Where have u been?
even tho made in viet, I use my hip monkey basically everyday. Not a bad bag, could be improved tho
What's the point of a 3 day bag or whatever if you don't have a bugout location? I assume most don't. The consensus on /r/preppers is basically there's no point in having one of these if you don't have a location (you don't) and it's only good to bugout if it's a localized disaster (flood, your house catches on fire, earthquake) even then you just use it to get to a hotel the next town over.
Is it not just better to buy $1000 worth of canned food and bottled water and keep it in your pantry
Or maybe they want a 3 day pack for a 3 day trip innawoods? Some of us actually go outside you know.
If you want that, you might as well get a hiking backpack. Much lighter and more comfortable. You can pack or sling a rifle if you must.
I've got an Eberlestock Gunslinger 2, and while I could do three days with that and have my rifle packed, I would be hurting the whole time and it would be loaded.
whats the /geerqyueer/ version of what you describved?
bump
Some people go innawoods
that look like lovely cross country land
Yeah it's nice in the spring. Brush is 6ft there now
i was refer to ski cross country, want to go to wildlands and do that
Oh yeah. You'll want a nice floaty set of back country skis. It gets deep off trail. There's about 150mi of ski trails by my house
I know a nice German lady that sets up tours for Europeans. Put it on your bucket list, it's worth a trip
Bruh I envy you I live in Italy and it's only cropland and urbanization, the only nature theres is is in the alps or some splotches of woods near rivers that are 500m wide
>consensus on /r/preppers
yeah I might actually be able to leave now
I picked up a 2day assault pack in blue, it is fantastic.
The 2 day assault is basically the 3 day, except it's not made in the US, and is slightly smaller.
US labor is expensive, consumers just aren't used to it. Also, Mystery ranch is a lot smaller and workshop-y than you'd imagine. It's not like a sweat shop with 200 women paid 10$ a day. Compare the wages of a chinese worker vs the wages of a US worker, then compare the price of a 60$ condor and a 400$ mystery ranch. It all kinda makes sense.
Because the guntubers say to buy them
I got a Sandpiper of California backpack and I've been satisfied with it. I haven't thrown much at it beyond basic hiking and camping though.
>Why is .... so expensive?
Cool it with the anti-semitism.
Btw the best day/2day pack in the budget range is the mil tec us assault pack L size, I had it for 3 months now and it's very good, paid just 46 euros, cant beat that at that price, all other same type rucks cost 3 times that
For anything more than a day pack I like internal or external frame packs. I have some older maxpedition internal frame and a MR external frame. Frameless just beats you up over 20lbs
It has a space on the back to put a plastic sheet frame so you can do it
I'm currently on vacation and used it to bring some stuff and loaded it to approx 22lbs and it sucked ass so yes the internal frame is cool, my only complaint is that it doesnt have a chest strap so I'll have to buy one, but it has a waist strap that isnt actually needed on act I removed it
LBT used to put these on sale a couple times a year for $50. I bought two of them. Do they still do this?
They are cashing their influencer expenses. Also, you are obviously moronic enough to consider buying their rather mediocre product. And some of the people as moronic as you will pay the Instagram 13370per4t0r to.
What do you advise buying then?
Also you're moronic because your assumptions are made up, I like the 3dap bc it's a good pack, but for the price it's too much, quality of the product is one thing, utility/price ratio another
Also as you said maybe demand is inelastic bc people want the cool trendy thing so they're ok with paying so much
mystery ranch bags are made in LA in the same factory as SOTech nylon products, and the beaners that work there mostly all used to sew parachutes for the military. it's a smaller operation than you'd think.
So?
The fact that theyre small by itself doesnt justify it being expensive, it depends on the volume of sales compared to how much they spend for machinery and workers (economy of scale)
But yes being in LA would make the labour costs and cost of buying/renting the land/building to produce higher