MT-LB? TL-DR

Why is russia using so many MT-LBs? What was the main APC a year or two ago?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Civilian
    >Civilian
    >Civilian
    war crime

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this post is so brown that it stained my mouse pointer

      Dafuq is a Loaf?

      tourist be gone

      Its reasonable to assume that they hoard some of the better and heavier stuff for the summer offensive. It would be pitty if some of those staging areas were struck with atacms.

      >le summer offensive guize
      no.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long until Russians start to use bicycles?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gotta steal enough for everyone first.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've already used bicycles and motorcycles. It's just at the moment not enough soviet and chink junk was destroyed to make their use mainstream.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Motorcycles are mainstream. Already seen Puccians try to explain how much better they are because they don't trigger mines and outrun drones.
        Just waiting for them to explain how bicycles are even better

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fair enough

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they don't trigger mines and outrun drones.
          I know you don't believe that shit but it's worth noting that minefields are mixed, so you may not trigger the dedicated antitank mines but will trigger the antipersonnel ones. I'd rather take a dumb HE antitank mine in a T-72, lose a track, maybe get a concussion than run over an antipersonnel mine on a motorbike and lose both of my legs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've already used bicycles and motorcycles. It's just at the moment not enough soviet and chink junk was destroyed to make their use mainstream.

      Motorcycles are mainstream. Already seen Puccians try to explain how much better they are because they don't trigger mines and outrun drones.
      Just waiting for them to explain how bicycles are even better

      Bicycles are for wectern gays and troons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kino as frick. I mean it's very likely both are already dead by now and we gonna get an extremely funny clip in a few days about it, but still, pretty fricking cool

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2026

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        probably earlier

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is russia using so many MT-LBs?
    probably desperate enough to push an artillery tractor into combat

    >What was the main APC a year or two ago?
    doctrinally, a motor rifle unit would have mixed BTR/BMP units while a mech unit would have all BMPs
    the BTR being an APC to simply extend the mobility of a rifle unit and the BMP being an IFV to give the unit much more offensive power
    the MT-LB was only really assigned to artillery units within the regiment, either organic or attached

    on paper, even motor units should have been ditching the BTR in favor of all BMPs
    but the russians seem desperate enough to push the MT-LB into service outside of artillery batteries

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh hey, the Desertcrosses again

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    every time i see a Krab being destroyed im sad : (

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now THAT is a good ratio

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It used to be the BMP and BTR's that did a bit of the troop hauling up to the front, but there was still plenty of trucks full of gopniks and pidors blown up on the approaches 12 months ago.

    That's a lot of civilian-grade shit out there getting junked

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dafuq is a Loaf?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the vatnik van

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buchanka

        https://i.imgur.com/4IT0rtM.jpeg

        Thanks all, I think I can see where the name comes from.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Buchanka

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the vatnik van

      Buchanka

      https://i.imgur.com/4IT0rtM.jpeg

      [...]
      [...]
      Thanks all, I think I can see where the name comes from.

      Guys, at least post the correct pictcha

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of these civilian car type loses are from Krynky. russians really don't give a frick about what's happening there anymore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they gave at least enough of a frick to paint "Magyar, homosexual" in vodka runes on a road
      Though their helpless rage at being destroyed by FPVs in and around Krynky has been entertaining as frick to watch

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's all fpv drones
    ATGMs truly lost

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>it's all fpv drones
      Drones and mines*

      But yeah, ATGMs are not the tool for this kind of attrition warfare with 1000+ km wide mostly static fronts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, back in the old days, of at least 3 years ago. There was a chance Russia was going to send out vast BTG's full of heavy and lighter armoured vehicles that would do mobile warfare
        >you can stop laughing now
        But, in the event they did that because it would always be unwise to assume things, the ATGM was a pretty handy solution to that stuff. The NLAW and Jav's are still a pretty solid 'shit happened' backup plan for any infantry crew to have tucked away somewhere just in case

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ATGMs destroy turtle tanks with huge EW

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, back in the old days, of at least 3 years ago. There was a chance Russia was going to send out vast BTG's full of heavy and lighter armoured vehicles that would do mobile warfare
        >you can stop laughing now
        But, in the event they did that because it would always be unwise to assume things, the ATGM was a pretty handy solution to that stuff. The NLAW and Jav's are still a pretty solid 'shit happened' backup plan for any infantry crew to have tucked away somewhere just in case

        Ukrainian troops downright say ATGMs are one of the best weapons they have. The drones are just to scout and recon and to destroy abandoned or damaged vehiles or to support the use of artillery, mines and ATGMs. Dumb people who think a massive war like this is just FPV drone videos.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          According to Ukrainians drones account for 70% of Russian armored losses

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Source?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kopeshillers: look Russia losing everything, they'll run out of stuff any day now
    Reality: Russian advances every day, the ukriane oout of men, shells, hope.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It‘s weird they advance every day but they never seem to get any closer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just 2 more weeks, 2 million dead ziggers, and the fields of Donbabwe will be ours

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Two days to day 800 of the two day operation isn't it?
        I think we're up to about 798, 99

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Day 800 is tomorrow.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Someone should throw them a party and an ATACMS or 3 like they did yesterday
            They seemed to like that, everyone showed up

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            800 days of eyebrow raising

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >2 million dead ziggers
        Pidors can afford it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not really with their already collapsing demographics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've been out of men for 2 whole years, homosexual, get your facts straight. It's all clones of bioweapon Boris Johnson now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a riddle for you what advances and advances but never gets anywhere

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Reality: Russian advances every day
      >just two (+1526) more weeks (to finish capturing the Donetsk Oblast)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The russian copevances are a pure strategical failure. The farms in Donetsk oblast are easy to take back and forth, but the wasted soviet stockpiles are irreplaceable for Russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sshh, don't tell them that the cities they flattened won't work as defensive positions, we aren't at that part of the script yet

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sshh
          Come on like nobody knows how exactly the Germany has lost the WW1.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you don't actually think these people know anything about warfare, do you anon?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's kinda crazy that Russia really didn't have that many BTRs, but an absurd number of BTRs. At least with the US, that has way more Strykers than Bradleys

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5: UNKNOWN, BMP, ONE THOUSAND

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its reasonable to assume that they hoard some of the better and heavier stuff for the summer offensive. It would be pitty if some of those staging areas were struck with atacms.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry, there is just no good stuff left. They are even running out of old crap.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus FRICK fpv drones are a fricking nightmare. Even Puccki jammers don't do jack shit. This is even before the US aid hit full swing. Clown war.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russian jammers do work or else the carnage from these drones would be far more worse.

      https://i.imgur.com/hBCW6Sd.jpeg

      Coincidentally,
      Here's a pic of the "Forward Control" variant of the Willys Jeep.

      Russia’s ZIL and GAZ truck lineages after WWII are just Studebakers with different body types that slowly morphed into different vehicles over time. Same with their motorcycles but with BMWs.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unknown
    >?????
    Not even UFOs are safe from FPV drones.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is russia using so many MT-LBs?
    There was a ton of them available

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As if an M113 is any better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >xaxaxaxaxaxa M113 is as bad as MTLB
      Why do you NPCs behave like this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just saying. Ukrainians aren't in a better position in that regard. More so, they've been using M113's as IFV's for more than a year. Just put a forever jamming .50 Canik on top and pray.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          M113 weights a bit more than MT-LB, M113 is made from aliminium alloy while MT-LB is made from Soviet steel, M113 in Ukraine get equiped with .50 cal for SOME anti-infantry armament. From that alone you can guess that M113 is superior to MT-LB in frontline duty

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The M113 is vastly superior to the MTLB. If you say otherwise you're essentially broadcasting that you don't know the first thing about modern armored warfare. But let's not pretend that you're arguing in good faith here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because they have no sense of dignity or self-worth on their own merit, be it due to shit parenting, lack of any opportunity to really grow, whatever.
        All their problems are caused by a bogeyman or conspiracy. All their triumphs are vicarious, from the triumphs of whoever they cast their lot in with - which was probably more of casting their lot against whatever is perceived to be mainstream or popular out of spite.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are a moronic Reddit NPC.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no u, the post

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no u, also le leddit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is, significantly. I'm pretty sure it can actually withstand HMG rounds to the sides, and it's been successfully adapted into an AD, infantry support, mortar-carrying, TOW-having, command vehicle, casevac vehicle, etc. at one point or another.
      There's newer and better options for both, but I'd certainly take M113s over MT-LBs if I had to choose between the two.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bruh, just fricking believe me, it can't withstand shit. And it fricking brakes all the time. The back hatch doesn't close on some units because the oil overheats, it's a voodoo dance with a tambourine to make it work.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I have never rode in MT-LB but let me explain you how M113 is just as bad

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bruh
          Bruh!
          Bro!
          Buddy!
          My guy!
          My dude!
          My man!
          Miss me with this fake familiarity. Probably a zigger.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >My guy!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >And it fricking brakes all the time.
          Stop using the brakes then?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unbelievably butthurt inspired deflection

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I got to ride inside those shitboxes so you're kind of right.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine and western countries don't use M113s to assault prepared positions in endless waves

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukraine and western countries don't use M113s to assault prepared positions
        Lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's what they have that runs. Battlefield taxi. Might be that they don't want to waste BMP's ferrying mobiks to die.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they don't want to waste BMP's
      at this point in the war the Russians have very clearly demonstrated that if they're not using something, it's because they've almost run out or can't get it to the front in time, not because they "don't want to waste" it

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russian losses last 25 hours and totals.Personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded.

    02.05.2024
    Tanks — 7332 (+20)
    Armored fighting vehicle — 14096 (+29)
    Artillery systems — 12044 (+20)
    MLRS — 1053
    Anti-aircraft warfare — 784 (+4)
    Planes — 348
    Helicopters — 325
    UAV — 9561 (+23)
    Cruise missiles — 2126
    Ships (boats) — 26
    Submarines — 1
    Trucks and Fuel Tankers — 16224 (+49)
    Special equipment — 1988 (+8)
    Military personnel — aprx. 470870 people (+1030)

    They are being butchered right now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >does not include wounded.
      it does and you know

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >My guy!

    >My dude!

    >My man!

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the defense of the MT-LB, it does well in the mud. Even the swedes used them.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >asset: loaf
    what are those civilian, uh, loafs?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >loafs
      It's a nickname for the vaguely loaf-shaped UAZ-452 "Bukhanka" 4WD van and various derivatives that were developed since the 1950s.
      Like most Soviet vehicles, the handling is crap and the engine is absolute shit. It drinks oil and fuel like crazy, and can overheat trying to keep the vehicle going at 100 kph / 65 mph.
      But it's still a body-on-frame 4WD vehicle. Fairly capable off-road (or on rural Russian roads, which are about the same thing), which is probably why they're using them in these conditions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Coincidentally,
        Here's a pic of the "Forward Control" variant of the Willys Jeep.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In about 2 weeks Russia will be out of vehicles, right? You do realize they produce them faster because they have an actual war economy because they have an efficient leadership and not some bureaucratic nightmare with 9001 votes and elections and corruption first before maybe 1 tank gets made and the rest ends up on some "trannies in the military" fund because leftist globo homosexual politicians who don't care about their own people decide instead of actual leaders. We are just so slow and inefficient compared to their well oiled machine. If Russia wanted WW3 we would collapse immediately.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      here's your vehicles that Puccia produced, actually bought from China ziggerbro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im just one concerned citizen of America and we should maybe look what Russia is doing better so we can improve and catch up again because I don't want to lose.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Im just one concerned citizen of America
          post passport with timestamp

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Niet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      too obvious, this shitpost wouldn't provoke anyone into thinkin you're a zigger 0/10

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Checked
      >they have an efficient leadership
      Keked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If Russia wanted WW3
      What would the difference be? They are already at a war economy and using all soviet stockpiles the possibly can.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        true, there is nothing else they could do

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