>Originally a cost effective alternative to the 1886 browning Winchester's >30% less receiver structural strength so max 42-45kpsi max loading while 1886/92/95 are in the 63kpdi ballpark ( like the difference between a 1888 komission and a g98) >Known to be picky over OAL, >Only claim to fame for justifying it's price is sub 80 iq consumerist apes drooling at "muh Trex gugn !!1!" From the new e-girlnferior cgi than 1994 animatronics Jurassic park cashhrab >But muuuh railz guize, I need that x6 iptic for a sub 200yd caliber !!!
Marlin gays are the con artist untermensch of the levergat world.
I bought a Henry Big Boy X because I like .357 magnum and I wanted a rifle to share ammo with my .357 revolvers. Originally I was gonna get a Marlin 1894, but they were always pretty expensive when I was a poorgay college student so I put off doing it. I didn't want a Winchester or Rossi because I didn't want a top eject. Then I started getting interested in suppressors after shooting some owned by friends, and I bought some of my own. Then I thought suppressed .38 special would be cool and I could use the same can on a 9mm pistol, so I wanted to buy a lever gun that was factory threaded, which basically meant my only real option was a Henry Big Boy X or Marlin SBL. Well, I wanted blued steel and wood furniture because I wanted something traditional looking, but nobody made that. But then an acquaintance suggested I do a furniture swap on a Henry because it's easy to buy wood furniture sets for their guns, so I bought a Henry Big Boy X. Next, I'll buy the can. Lastly, I'll buy the furniture and do the swap, and then I'll have my dream .357 levergun.
and
https://i.imgur.com/Jhamh51.jpeg
The quality on my Big Boy X in .357 is noticeably higher than on my Marlin 336 from 1949. The Marlin was obviously taken care of, but the Henry is nicer.
Yes but purchasing power of the average mook was much higher >can pretty easily earn $5 bucks per day >can afford the gun after 2 weeks of work easy
Compare to Black person Biden’s economy: >wage slave for let’s say $20 bucks a day >implying you aren’t being buttraped by rent, food, utilities, and debt payments on a shitty useless degree?still need to work 10 days to afford minimum
A gun that is supposed to be worth half of what it was 120 years ago.
>>wage slave for let’s say $20 bucks a day
lol wut. Even federal min wage is $7.25/hour, almost triple your gay number for a normal day's work, but more than half the states are much higher (over double in a bunch of cases), and in the crazy job market for the last few years if you weren't getting a raise within a month and signing bonus on top that the problem was you. >utilities have no value
lol >he fell for the college debt meme
Yeah that explains a lot.
I meant 20$ an hour fool. Even earning $200 a day with no other expenses you need to work almost 2 whole weeks when based 1800s enjoyers didn’t need to take out mortgages for houses and could actually afford expensive shit through hard work. And then they marry and have 7 kids before dying of TB at 45 like a true chad
>Originally a cost effective alternative to the 1886 browning Winchester's >30% less receiver structural strength so max 42-45kpsi max loading while 1886/92/95 are in the 63kpdi ballpark ( like the difference between a 1888 komission and a g98) >Known to be picky over OAL, >Only claim to fame for justifying it's price is sub 80 iq consumerist apes drooling at "muh Trex gugn !!1!" From the new e-girlnferior cgi than 1994 animatronics Jurassic park cashhrab >But muuuh railz guize, I need that x6 iptic for a sub 200yd caliber !!!
Marlin gays are the con artist untermensch of the levergat world.
I wish I could legally just buy straight from the manufacturer, might knock a few hundred bucks off it at least but oh well, still want a newer Marlin regardless but those are all good points non the less and I trust Ruger has fixed them since the freedom corp incident.
>trapper lever action >8lb 18" stainless steel firing 200gr projectiles
What kind of beavers does marlin think people are trapping? Most trappers I know use pellet guns or .22lr.
The quality on my Big Boy X in .357 is noticeably higher than on my Marlin 336 from 1949. The Marlin was obviously taken care of, but the Henry is nicer.
I think the stained black wood furniture of the All Weather is kinda dumb (black plastic would provide better weather resistance), but it would be a fine choice. I personally wouldn't get a Rossi, but I hear after breaking them in they're good. If you have any desire to mount an optic on it, don't get a Rossi or Winchester because of the top eject. The Big Boy X is pretty rugged and I got the opportunity to shoot 3 of them this last weekend: mine, another guy's in .357, and a 3rd guy's in .45 Colt and they were all on par with each other. If you want to put a can on it, make sure you're getting something with a factory threaded barrel (not the base model Rossi or the All Weather).
I primarily was ok with the All Weather because I didn't mind the longer barrel (all my 357/38 wheelguns are 2" barrels) and the capacity was a little better than the X.
I want synthetic, so it looks like the BBX for me, thanks. My other lever-gat was a Model 94 Winchester, and works swell.
The Pedersoli will probably be nicer fit/finish, as 1886 repros go it has some oddball changes made to the action that are not better or worse really.
The Chiappa is more true to the original 86 design, some parts may even interchange.
>Absurd prices
Lmao you don't know the value of shit, you're used to slop that falls apart available for hundreds of dollars and think thats what everything should be.
1800 dollars isn't absurd for a gun, even a stupid one. It's not like an Atlas or something that actually flexes on the poor. We're just wondering why such a mundane piece commands that kind of money.
And lucky for would-be cloners, Henry sells wood furniture sets.
https://henryoutfitters.com/collections/rifle-parts/products/spare-stock-sets-for-rice-lake-wi-production-models?variant=30945008255036
I bought a Henry Big Boy X because I like .357 magnum and I wanted a rifle to share ammo with my .357 revolvers. Originally I was gonna get a Marlin 1894, but they were always pretty expensive when I was a poorgay college student so I put off doing it. I didn't want a Winchester or Rossi because I didn't want a top eject. Then I started getting interested in suppressors after shooting some owned by friends, and I bought some of my own. Then I thought suppressed .38 special would be cool and I could use the same can on a 9mm pistol, so I wanted to buy a lever gun that was factory threaded, which basically meant my only real option was a Henry Big Boy X or Marlin SBL. Well, I wanted blued steel and wood furniture because I wanted something traditional looking, but nobody made that. But then an acquaintance suggested I do a furniture swap on a Henry because it's easy to buy wood furniture sets for their guns, so I bought a Henry Big Boy X. Next, I'll buy the can. Lastly, I'll buy the furniture and do the swap, and then I'll have my dream .357 levergun.
Hey, you asked. I'm just explaining my decision process. I don't actually care about your opinion on the matter, but perhaps some other anon might find my explanation instructive.
anything that the boomers were oggling when they were younger is pretty much just completely artificially priced. i have been looking for a ruger 10/22 for 3 years at this point and have not found one for less than $400. The MSRP on their fricking website is $380 for a brand new one. it's like, probably the single most produced firearm in the country and they treat it like it's something special
so yeah, henry's are going to be moronic overpriced like revolvers, m1 garands, and 10/22s. just wait like 10 years and gun stores are going to be overflowing with these fricking things because the average henry buyer doesn't just buy one they buy all of them
I've wanted a Marlin Guide Gun for years but didn't know they were so shit. Might have to change to the Winchester, might as well get the 45-90 version
There might be ONE company loading them. It's mostly a roll your own situation for 45-90 too.
Handloading is almost a necessity for leverguns and revolvers given the price of ammo.
I load 357 mag too, the cheapest 357 out there is still 2x the price of my handloaded plinkers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
sheeeeeeeet asking for a friend honestly, and i don't think he's going to be reloading anytime soon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
357 is the way to go if you have to buy ammo.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the cheapest 357 out there is like 40 cents per round my guy
how you could possibly be loading ammo for less than 20 cents per round when the bullets themselves are 8 cents each and primers are 8 cents each. the cases are 5 cents each. we are already at 20 cents and we haven't even factored in the cost of powder or the time it takes you to punch the primers out of the cases and press new primers into them and prep the cases and all of the work that goes into reloading
I'm absolutely certain that reloading is something that boomers got in on when it was cheap and have been projecting monumental amounts of cope about for the last 40 years or something because people say shit like this to make reloading look reasonable that's just outright deceptive. if you're shooting weird stuff it makes a lot of sense but don't try and convince me to reload 9mm you fricking moron
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>the cases
Literally a nonfactor after the first loading.
Bullets are 7-10 cents, my cheap ass primers are 5 cents(shipped to me) and the powder is 5 cents or less per cartridge. (7000gr in #1, cost us around $40 or less, use <10gr per cartridge)
Some people have also been loading a long time, that's just the costs today. My cost is probably closer to 12cpr considering the cost if components just 10 years ago.
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Are you seriously trying to tell me that you think that reloading is cheaper because you bought the components when inflation was lower? do you not understand how money works? If you sell the components now they'll be worth more than they cost you when you bought them.
you aren't spending 12 cents per round, you're wasting like 20 cents every shot
2 weeks ago
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No, reread what I said.
The cost if reloading 357 mag, right this very moment, can be done for 20cpr.
2 weeks ago
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if it costs 20 cents to buy all the materials and make one right now, and you are doing it for 12, then you are not saving 8 cents, you are wasting 8 cents because you could have sold it for 20 cents and made a profit. but i don't think that's a fair cost breakdown
its as simple as looking at the people who sell the bullets they make. those are usually much more expensive than mass produced ammo, despite the obviously lower quality of materials. if the opportunity cost was really not important then the people selling 38 special at gun shows would be undercutting factory ammo and i think we both know how ridiculous that notion is
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The goal is to shoot, not make money. I'm saving 50% over needing to buy completed ammo.
This allows me to shoot more for less. You are prioritizing the concept all wrong. The goal is to shoot more often.
The Ruger Marlins are the nicest they've ever been made, but that's like saying a car that was designed to be easy to produce is now using high quality machining and materials: it's still a design that was made to be as simple as possible and sacrifices many other qualities.
Sure. Get one, the criteria for whether it's good is purely down to you. Like I said, they're made better than they ever have been. It's really the design itself I don't like, but most people won't and shouldn't care unless they handload.
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Might get into hand loads at a later time but now I'm at the mercy of factory loadings
how much time does it take to remove a primer, place a new primer, fill a case with powder, and press a new bullet in? as in, what is the time cost in minutes to hand produce a bullet?
because minimum wage pays about 25 cents a minute. if it takes more than a minute to assemble a bullet then the opportunity cost means its mathematically not worth doing even if you get the equipment for free
>all time you invest into reloading could be spent working
This is false, total nonsense stop with that moron logic.
With a progressive press, you can churn out hundreds per hour pretty easily. Reloading makes shooting more affordable by allowing you to invest leisure time that may otherwise be wasted, into savings the next time you go to the range.
I can get 1000 rounds of 9mm in the 2 minutes it takes me to give LAX ammo 250 dollars. How much faster and for what price can this progressive press do it?
I literally don't care about, nor load 9mm. 9mm operates on an economy of scale that bigger cartridges don't.
Buy 1000 rounds of 357 Mag and you'll pay $400 before shipping, and that's cheap dogshit. If I shoot 1000 rounds it costs me around $200 and a couple hours of down time. We're even talking about one of the less stark examples, but there are substantially more expensive cartridges you can load to make that offer's significant differences.
I don't see the point you're trying to make, my shooting hobby costs me less because of the reloading hobby.
>you're just poor
Where's your limit on how much you're willing to spend on shooting in a single weekend?
Truthfully I probably just shoot more than you and have to be mindful of how costly that is, which is why reloading allows me to feed the hobby cheaper.
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Anonymous
>just shoot more than you
do you want a medal? maybe go back to arf or plebbit
>Marlin
Pure shit. Horrendously overpriced and overrated. At least Ruger are making them now, not the Cerberus group, so quality control is likely to be significantly improved.
>Originally a cost effective alternative to the 1886 browning Winchester's
>30% less receiver structural strength so max 42-45kpsi max loading while 1886/92/95 are in the 63kpdi ballpark ( like the difference between a 1888 komission and a g98)
>Known to be picky over OAL,
>Only claim to fame for justifying it's price is sub 80 iq consumerist apes drooling at "muh Trex gugn !!1!" From the new e-girlnferior cgi than 1994 animatronics Jurassic park cashhrab
>But muuuh railz guize, I need that x6 iptic for a sub 200yd caliber !!!
Marlin gays are the con artist untermensch of the levergat world.
>Jurassic park cashhrab
Im more of a wind river guy
Someone shill me a .357 lever gat.
See
and
In inflated dollar terms, an original $50 1873 Winchester would cost well over $4000 in today's dollars.
Yes but purchasing power of the average mook was much higher
>can pretty easily earn $5 bucks per day
>can afford the gun after 2 weeks of work easy
Compare to Black person Biden’s economy:
>wage slave for let’s say $20 bucks a day
>implying you aren’t being buttraped by rent, food, utilities, and debt payments on a shitty useless degree?still need to work 10 days to afford minimum
A gun that is supposed to be worth half of what it was 120 years ago.
>>wage slave for let’s say $20 bucks a day
lol wut. Even federal min wage is $7.25/hour, almost triple your gay number for a normal day's work, but more than half the states are much higher (over double in a bunch of cases), and in the crazy job market for the last few years if you weren't getting a raise within a month and signing bonus on top that the problem was you.
>utilities have no value
lol
>he fell for the college debt meme
Yeah that explains a lot.
Also life expectancy was decades lower.
I meant 20$ an hour fool. Even earning $200 a day with no other expenses you need to work almost 2 whole weeks when based 1800s enjoyers didn’t need to take out mortgages for houses and could actually afford expensive shit through hard work. And then they marry and have 7 kids before dying of TB at 45 like a true chad
>you need to work almost 2 whole weeks
God you sound like such a b***h
average daily wage for skilled labour in 1873 was ~$1.80
Why would you buy a Marlin when an 1886 does everything better except mount a cope scope?
I don't know
cheaper
Is it really though?
Some of the Miroku models go for 13-1500
Marlins are going for 1200 here, so yeah
Glorious Nippon steel (unironically).
I wish I could legally just buy straight from the manufacturer, might knock a few hundred bucks off it at least but oh well, still want a newer Marlin regardless but those are all good points non the less and I trust Ruger has fixed them since the freedom corp incident.
It was in Jurassic World
Itls called the free market you commie jackass
only a cuck pays more than MSRP you fricking homosexual
listen, you're not a conservative Trump loving red blooded American if you don't overpay and put money in the pockets of the corporations, commie
these guns appeal to moronic boomers who get scammed and easily swindled from their money. The Kimber buyers.
100% this, Miroku quality is infinitely superior. Well worth an extra 200 to 500 depending on the model.
Just keep an eye out for a lightly used one.
>trapper lever action
>8lb 18" stainless steel firing 200gr projectiles
What kind of beavers does marlin think people are trapping? Most trappers I know use pellet guns or .22lr.
That's what short barreled lever guns have been called for over a century.
Why doesn't marlin just jack up their MSRP? How do they benefit if buds and others are over charging?
Just buy a Henry. They are well made guns with more features anyway, and they retail for lower prices.
>buy the Marlin, but worse
The quality on my Big Boy X in .357 is noticeably higher than on my Marlin 336 from 1949. The Marlin was obviously taken care of, but the Henry is nicer.
>Big Boy X
I'm looking for a lever-gat doing 357/38 and I'm looking between Henry's All Weather vs. Big Boy X vs. a Rossi R92.
What do you think? Purpose is where a combination of hiking and rough vehicle transport would be done (Katrina '05, Loma Prieta '89).
I think the stained black wood furniture of the All Weather is kinda dumb (black plastic would provide better weather resistance), but it would be a fine choice. I personally wouldn't get a Rossi, but I hear after breaking them in they're good. If you have any desire to mount an optic on it, don't get a Rossi or Winchester because of the top eject. The Big Boy X is pretty rugged and I got the opportunity to shoot 3 of them this last weekend: mine, another guy's in .357, and a 3rd guy's in .45 Colt and they were all on par with each other. If you want to put a can on it, make sure you're getting something with a factory threaded barrel (not the base model Rossi or the All Weather).
>Stained black wood
WTF. I thought it was synthetic like the X.
I primarily was ok with the All Weather because I didn't mind the longer barrel (all my 357/38 wheelguns are 2" barrels) and the capacity was a little better than the X.
I want synthetic, so it looks like the BBX for me, thanks. My other lever-gat was a Model 94 Winchester, and works swell.
What are my other options for an acceptable .45-70 lever gun with a threaded barrel?
henry big boy x
henry is trash
Pedersoli makes them, Chiappa make them. Both are 1886's.
They get sold under other importer names like Taylors&Co or Cimmaron etc.
Here's the pedersoli one, that peep sight radius is fricking horrible, but it's assuredly better made than the Chiappa offering if only a little.
pic
Someone should tell them to stop putting the rear sight on backwards.
Between the two is one liable to have a nicer fit and finish than the other or is it a wash?
The Pedersoli will probably be nicer fit/finish, as 1886 repros go it has some oddball changes made to the action that are not better or worse really.
The Chiappa is more true to the original 86 design, some parts may even interchange.
that's market liberalism for you anon
neo liberalism and its consequences have ben disastrous for the human race
>poors seething thread #18963
Ah yes, everyone who spends more than me is a dumb boomer.
>poors
Who are you homosexuals trying to convince whenever you start crying "poors" when people rightfully complain about absurd prices?
They got cheated and have poor spending habits, so they need to justify their moronation.
>Absurd prices
Lmao you don't know the value of shit, you're used to slop that falls apart available for hundreds of dollars and think thats what everything should be.
y u crying?
Talk like a man.
quit being a gay
1800 dollars isn't absurd for a gun, even a stupid one. It's not like an Atlas or something that actually flexes on the poor. We're just wondering why such a mundane piece commands that kind of money.
I gave up waiting stores to actually have a new Ruger/Marlin in stock and got a Henry 45-70 bellow it's MSRP instead. Zero regrets.
I got an SBL for 1150 out the door which I felt pretty stoked about. Swapping from my Winchester '94 to this as my field/deer gun.
What other gun can be made to look like pic related?
Honestly the stainless Henry looks a little closer imo. Would need a set of wood furniture though.
And lucky for would-be cloners, Henry sells wood furniture sets.
https://henryoutfitters.com/collections/rifle-parts/products/spare-stock-sets-for-rice-lake-wi-production-models?variant=30945008255036
Take a regular lever gun and put it in your mouth NV gay
for coyotes? what the frick? do you want to see garys mod physics irl or something?
>me not buying it costs $0
I'll go with that option then.
Who's buying these stupid things, John Wick fans? They saw the guy using one and just had to go buy it?
I bought a Henry Big Boy X because I like .357 magnum and I wanted a rifle to share ammo with my .357 revolvers. Originally I was gonna get a Marlin 1894, but they were always pretty expensive when I was a poorgay college student so I put off doing it. I didn't want a Winchester or Rossi because I didn't want a top eject. Then I started getting interested in suppressors after shooting some owned by friends, and I bought some of my own. Then I thought suppressed .38 special would be cool and I could use the same can on a 9mm pistol, so I wanted to buy a lever gun that was factory threaded, which basically meant my only real option was a Henry Big Boy X or Marlin SBL. Well, I wanted blued steel and wood furniture because I wanted something traditional looking, but nobody made that. But then an acquaintance suggested I do a furniture swap on a Henry because it's easy to buy wood furniture sets for their guns, so I bought a Henry Big Boy X. Next, I'll buy the can. Lastly, I'll buy the furniture and do the swap, and then I'll have my dream .357 levergun.
only a homosexual feels the need to justify themselves on an anonymous forum
Hey, you asked. I'm just explaining my decision process. I don't actually care about your opinion on the matter, but perhaps some other anon might find my explanation instructive.
you replied to someone else fren
nice reasoning
>I bought a Henry Big Boy X because I like .357 magnum and I wanted a rifle to share ammo with my .357 revolvers.
>suppressed shooting with .38
I like your reasoning. You talked me out of thinking they're goofy.
That’s literally what harbor freight does and their business is going fricking crazy in revenue year over year
Raise your prices and call it a clearance sale and Americans will buy
>paying above MSRP
Sounds like a skill issue.
anything that the boomers were oggling when they were younger is pretty much just completely artificially priced. i have been looking for a ruger 10/22 for 3 years at this point and have not found one for less than $400. The MSRP on their fricking website is $380 for a brand new one. it's like, probably the single most produced firearm in the country and they treat it like it's something special
so yeah, henry's are going to be moronic overpriced like revolvers, m1 garands, and 10/22s. just wait like 10 years and gun stores are going to be overflowing with these fricking things because the average henry buyer doesn't just buy one they buy all of them
I've wanted a Marlin Guide Gun for years but didn't know they were so shit. Might have to change to the Winchester, might as well get the 45-90 version
Have it converted to 50-110
Can you get factory loads?
There might be ONE company loading them. It's mostly a roll your own situation for 45-90 too.
Handloading is almost a necessity for leverguns and revolvers given the price of ammo.
what about 357
I load 357 mag too, the cheapest 357 out there is still 2x the price of my handloaded plinkers.
sheeeeeeeet asking for a friend honestly, and i don't think he's going to be reloading anytime soon
357 is the way to go if you have to buy ammo.
the cheapest 357 out there is like 40 cents per round my guy
how you could possibly be loading ammo for less than 20 cents per round when the bullets themselves are 8 cents each and primers are 8 cents each. the cases are 5 cents each. we are already at 20 cents and we haven't even factored in the cost of powder or the time it takes you to punch the primers out of the cases and press new primers into them and prep the cases and all of the work that goes into reloading
I'm absolutely certain that reloading is something that boomers got in on when it was cheap and have been projecting monumental amounts of cope about for the last 40 years or something because people say shit like this to make reloading look reasonable that's just outright deceptive. if you're shooting weird stuff it makes a lot of sense but don't try and convince me to reload 9mm you fricking moron
>the cases
Literally a nonfactor after the first loading.
Bullets are 7-10 cents, my cheap ass primers are 5 cents(shipped to me) and the powder is 5 cents or less per cartridge. (7000gr in #1, cost us around $40 or less, use <10gr per cartridge)
Some people have also been loading a long time, that's just the costs today. My cost is probably closer to 12cpr considering the cost if components just 10 years ago.
Are you seriously trying to tell me that you think that reloading is cheaper because you bought the components when inflation was lower? do you not understand how money works? If you sell the components now they'll be worth more than they cost you when you bought them.
you aren't spending 12 cents per round, you're wasting like 20 cents every shot
No, reread what I said.
The cost if reloading 357 mag, right this very moment, can be done for 20cpr.
if it costs 20 cents to buy all the materials and make one right now, and you are doing it for 12, then you are not saving 8 cents, you are wasting 8 cents because you could have sold it for 20 cents and made a profit. but i don't think that's a fair cost breakdown
its as simple as looking at the people who sell the bullets they make. those are usually much more expensive than mass produced ammo, despite the obviously lower quality of materials. if the opportunity cost was really not important then the people selling 38 special at gun shows would be undercutting factory ammo and i think we both know how ridiculous that notion is
The goal is to shoot, not make money. I'm saving 50% over needing to buy completed ammo.
This allows me to shoot more for less. You are prioritizing the concept all wrong. The goal is to shoot more often.
I heard your uncle gives you daily loads
>they were so shit
lolwut
People in this thread say they are shit
The Ruger Marlins are the nicest they've ever been made, but that's like saying a car that was designed to be easy to produce is now using high quality machining and materials: it's still a design that was made to be as simple as possible and sacrifices many other qualities.
So are the Marlin Guide Guns good to go or not?
Sure. Get one, the criteria for whether it's good is purely down to you. Like I said, they're made better than they ever have been. It's really the design itself I don't like, but most people won't and shouldn't care unless they handload.
Might get into hand loads at a later time but now I'm at the mercy of factory loadings
yeah they're fine
>People in this thread say they are shit
good point
Do they?
As far as I've cared to read people are just calling them overpriced.
how much time does it take to remove a primer, place a new primer, fill a case with powder, and press a new bullet in? as in, what is the time cost in minutes to hand produce a bullet?
because minimum wage pays about 25 cents a minute. if it takes more than a minute to assemble a bullet then the opportunity cost means its mathematically not worth doing even if you get the equipment for free
>all time you invest into reloading could be spent working
This is false, total nonsense stop with that moron logic.
With a progressive press, you can churn out hundreds per hour pretty easily. Reloading makes shooting more affordable by allowing you to invest leisure time that may otherwise be wasted, into savings the next time you go to the range.
I can get 1000 rounds of 9mm in the 2 minutes it takes me to give LAX ammo 250 dollars. How much faster and for what price can this progressive press do it?
>Buying LAX
>Ever
Why do you hate your guns so much anon?
because they're built to be burnt down. I can always buy more. Why keep it pristine for the next guy?
I literally don't care about, nor load 9mm. 9mm operates on an economy of scale that bigger cartridges don't.
Buy 1000 rounds of 357 Mag and you'll pay $400 before shipping, and that's cheap dogshit. If I shoot 1000 rounds it costs me around $200 and a couple hours of down time. We're even talking about one of the less stark examples, but there are substantially more expensive cartridges you can load to make that offer's significant differences.
I don't see the point you're trying to make, my shooting hobby costs me less because of the reloading hobby.
>just load bigger carts
FAIR POINT.
Plus you can make loads that no factory makes, and you can get really weird if you have a place to melt lead into moulds.
400 is nothing if you aren't poor
>you're just poor
Where's your limit on how much you're willing to spend on shooting in a single weekend?
Truthfully I probably just shoot more than you and have to be mindful of how costly that is, which is why reloading allows me to feed the hobby cheaper.
>just shoot more than you
do you want a medal? maybe go back to arf or plebbit
You don't shoot much I can tell
nobody here shoots
>why is this thing more expensive than normal
why is this so difficult for people to understand?
>arms dealer
>marketing ethics
the goal of reloading is to shoot 4x as much for only twice as much money
suppressors
>Marlin
Pure shit. Horrendously overpriced and overrated. At least Ruger are making them now, not the Cerberus group, so quality control is likely to be significantly improved.
Just look how fricking thin and underbuilt the receiver is where the barrel threads into it.
I wonder what ammo they were shooting?
>it says 70 grains kid, ya gotta put 70 grains of powder in it