if you can get a late 80's early 90's Remington Wingmaster, those are pure sex, smoothest pump action I've ever tried. Serial numbers that start with W, X, A or B.
if you can get a late 80's early 90's Remington Wingmaster, those are pure sex, smoothest pump action I've ever tried. Serial numbers that start with W, X, A or B.
I love my wingmaster, glad to see everyone else loves them too
No, the plastic trigger housings aren't bad, they're just plastic. They feel about the same as say a 10/22 plastic housing, hard, durable nylon, but still plastic. The retrograde 500, 590/590A1 are pretty darn heavy though.
frankly it's a bit unwieldy for HD, but manageable with 14-19inch barrel I suppose, definitely good for looking badass on a porch (just don't get hit with charges). It is certainly durable and functional. For hunting, depends on what you're hunting. For migratory birds, you'd want something with a longer barrel and preferably lighter. For other kinds of hunting, it's sufficient but there are better choices (like rifles for medium-large game and better shotguns for upland birds).
frankly it's a bit unwieldy for HD, but manageable with 14-19inch barrel I suppose, definitely good for looking badass on a porch (just don't get hit with charges). It is certainly durable and functional. For hunting, depends on what you're hunting. For migratory birds, you'd want something with a longer barrel and preferably lighter. For other kinds of hunting, it's sufficient but there are better choices (like rifles for medium-large game and better shotguns for upland birds).
So would you recommend the 500 as a stylish, yet functional (and durable) all-rounder-shotgun for both hunting, looking badass on a porch and HD?
well there you go then, that does indeed take care of just about all uses. Still pretty heavy, but a lot better functionality with two barrels.
frankly it's a bit unwieldy for HD, but manageable with 14-19inch barrel I suppose, definitely good for looking badass on a porch (just don't get hit with charges). It is certainly durable and functional. For hunting, depends on what you're hunting. For migratory birds, you'd want something with a longer barrel and preferably lighter. For other kinds of hunting, it's sufficient but there are better choices (like rifles for medium-large game and better shotguns for upland birds).
Cheers. Ive always been a lover of "multi-purpose" tools. I want something that allows me a 100% reliable use of 12g shells for whatever purpose. If that means shooting pidgeons to avoid starvation during nuclear winter, then so be it.
yeah at the right ranges with the right choice of shells, shotguns can do basically all, as long as you are familiar with your shotgun and what shells work best with it. eg. don't use slugs against pigeons, don't use slugs in an apartment, don't use buckshot against ducks, etc.
I like and follow clint smith's advice about shotguns, many such videos on yt.
the only 590 that comes with the metal is the 590a1
the majority of 590 marked guns have the standard plastic trigger group.
its fine. the only time they actually get damaged is when morons force things during disassembly or reassembly instead of making sure its actually lined up.
they dont break under normal use or drop damage
Berg is not israeli, its swedish. During WW2, hundreds of israelites migrated into Sweden with they've adopted the "-berg" last name for themselves. (Like what all israelites are good at doing...)
I also like that the shell lifter stays up to make loading easier. Always hated the feeling of metal scraping the back of my thumb as I push another shell into the tube.
>Benelli is the right answer.
An AR-15 in 5.56x45 is the right answer, but few ITT will admit it openly. Some may admit it privately, in the deepest recesses of their fuddish minds, but will maintain a pro-shotty façade on their facebook page where their boomer buds(most of whom are privately pro-AR-15 but would never say so)
>AR-15 is the right answer.
A PCC in 9mm is the right answer, but few ITT will admit it openly. Some may admit it privately, in the deepest recesses of their GWOT minds, but will maintain a pro-AR façade on their Instagram page where their zoomer buds(most of whom are privately pro-PCC but would never say so)
I also despise tang mounted safeties that will rub on and off during field use and shell lifter pins that pop out of the receiver and jam the gun when it is dropped.
I got a Mossberg 940 that wouldn't extract live rounds from the chamber. But after sending the barrel back, they did send me a new one no questions asked.
One big benefit of the Mossy is the extractor can easily be removed and replaced since it's just screwed into the receiver, the Rem's extractor is just a part of the receiver, so while the extractor breaking is rare on the off chance it does happen the Mossy is much easier to fix.
I went mossberg because brand reliability and I can't really think of another brand that makes a shotty that can reliably feed mini shells. I like the action of the remmy but I didn't really feel like spending time trying to find an old Remington on the webs. If you feel like spending the time It'll probably be worth it but IMO the mossy is nearly all of the way there compared to a remington and has plenty of aftermarket support if you sincerely need to change something you don't like about it.
20" Mossberg 590S.
Choked barrel, optics cut, feeds short shells without an adapter, multiple front sling points, bayonet lug (for those Instagram shots), full-length mag tube, and ghost-ring sights are available. Only negative is the ugly logo on the receiver.
I would say save up and get a proper Beretta 1301 (tactical or comp) or even an M4, but you won't do that, so I will recommend what I consider to be great semis otherwise:
Many varieties of M2 going back 2 decades can be found for cheap, many M1 Super 90 from the 90's (not the newer remake which is just a cheap M2) are still in perfect service. Mossberg 930 and 940 are okay, but they tend to need some work, a good comp JM Pro model can be found for under $1000 new. Many varieties of Remington semis are really damn good, even the V3 which was/is a new offering. There are Franchi and Weatherby semi-auto shotgun models which are essentially Benellis but made elsewhere in Italy.
Or alternatively, just get a Turkish clone (don't pls they suck) if you really need something built to budget.
Won a rusty 870 wingmaster on an auction site, any tips to make this thing better while being as cheap as possible? So far planning to chop the barrel and rub it with an oily steel wool to clean up the rust, anything else needed?
sights and sling possibly needed as well
Just keep it oiled and the patina will keep well enough. Sling mount end cap or just wrap it around the barrel post and drill the stock. It'll be a faithful blaster to the end of your days.
Really only thing (that would cost a little bit of money) would be slapping a mag tube extension on it, since you're planning on chopping the barrel anyway you might as well go full riot gun mode and a flush fitting mag tube.
If not, like the other anon said just get an end cap sling mount, they're not very expensive, I think like $10.
Mossberg
The 7+1 shot model 500/88 for $250-$300 is hands down all the shotgun you will ever need.
Don't forget the ammo carrier and light.
If you're feeling cheeky, stick in an OPSOL plug to carry 12 mini shells of buckshot or slug.
I’m in love with my mossy 590 20 inch. I’m sure Remingtons are more than fine, Mossberg just stood out to me. Thumb safety, bayonet lug, simple take down, abundance of parts and general looks. Funny thing was my cop uncle urged me to get an 879 because “muh police shotgun” and was pretty disappointed I didnt. Oh well.
Plus the heat shield is just pure sex.
Long mag tube = sex
if you can get a late 80's early 90's Remington Wingmaster, those are pure sex, smoothest pump action I've ever tried. Serial numbers that start with W, X, A or B.
old remington > mossberg > brand new remington > 2000-2010s remington
old wingmasters had some AAA++ grade walnut on them sometimes.
I love my wingmaster, glad to see everyone else loves them too
>old remington = mossberg > brand new remington >2000-2010s remington
FIFY
Does anyone know why Mossberg uses a plastic trigger group on the 500 retrograde? Also, is it as bad as it sounds?
No, the plastic trigger housings aren't bad, they're just plastic. They feel about the same as say a 10/22 plastic housing, hard, durable nylon, but still plastic. The retrograde 500, 590/590A1 are pretty darn heavy though.
So would you recommend the 500 as a stylish, yet functional (and durable) all-rounder-shotgun for both hunting, looking badass on a porch and HD?
Yes.
frankly it's a bit unwieldy for HD, but manageable with 14-19inch barrel I suppose, definitely good for looking badass on a porch (just don't get hit with charges). It is certainly durable and functional. For hunting, depends on what you're hunting. For migratory birds, you'd want something with a longer barrel and preferably lighter. For other kinds of hunting, it's sufficient but there are better choices (like rifles for medium-large game and better shotguns for upland birds).
They literally sell the gun in a package with both barrels for just this purpose.
well there you go then, that does indeed take care of just about all uses. Still pretty heavy, but a lot better functionality with two barrels.
Thanks man.
Cheers. Ive always been a lover of "multi-purpose" tools. I want something that allows me a 100% reliable use of 12g shells for whatever purpose. If that means shooting pidgeons to avoid starvation during nuclear winter, then so be it.
yeah at the right ranges with the right choice of shells, shotguns can do basically all, as long as you are familiar with your shotgun and what shells work best with it. eg. don't use slugs against pigeons, don't use slugs in an apartment, don't use buckshot against ducks, etc.
I like and follow clint smith's advice about shotguns, many such videos on yt.
the only 590 that comes with the metal is the 590a1
the majority of 590 marked guns have the standard plastic trigger group.
its fine. the only time they actually get damaged is when morons force things during disassembly or reassembly instead of making sure its actually lined up.
they dont break under normal use or drop damage
Remington sounds like rimmington so that's automatically gay and muttish sounding
>Mossberg
>Berg
>BERG
That's israeli
Berg is not israeli, its swedish. During WW2, hundreds of israelites migrated into Sweden with they've adopted the "-berg" last name for themselves. (Like what all israelites are good at doing...)
Giving a Remington, used to be slang for sucking two dicks at the same time.
nelli
mossberg, almost purely for the thumb safety placement. also, nobody's ever referred to them as "moss-shit."
I also like that the shell lifter stays up to make loading easier. Always hated the feeling of metal scraping the back of my thumb as I push another shell into the tube.
Benelli is the right answer.
>Benelli is the right answer.
An AR-15 in 5.56x45 is the right answer, but few ITT will admit it openly. Some may admit it privately, in the deepest recesses of their fuddish minds, but will maintain a pro-shotty façade on their facebook page where their boomer buds(most of whom are privately pro-AR-15 but would never say so)
>AR-15 is the right answer.
A PCC in 9mm is the right answer, but few ITT will admit it openly. Some may admit it privately, in the deepest recesses of their GWOT minds, but will maintain a pro-AR façade on their Instagram page where their zoomer buds(most of whom are privately pro-PCC but would never say so)
Remmy
The mossberg 590 is the best pump shotgun you can reasonably get. A1 if you don't mind it being chunky.
just remember to change the mossberg safety to an aftermarket metal one. I hate the stock plastic ones.
mossberg
wilson's scattergun technologies is severely overpriced though, 3-4x what you could do yourself and get 95% of the utility and performance.
Remmy because I just don't want an aluminum shotgun
This motherfricker gets it.
I also despise tang mounted safeties that will rub on and off during field use and shell lifter pins that pop out of the receiver and jam the gun when it is dropped.
Whichever you want, but if go for the Rem, get an old police magnum
I got a Mossberg 940 that wouldn't extract live rounds from the chamber. But after sending the barrel back, they did send me a new one no questions asked.
One big benefit of the Mossy is the extractor can easily be removed and replaced since it's just screwed into the receiver, the Rem's extractor is just a part of the receiver, so while the extractor breaking is rare on the off chance it does happen the Mossy is much easier to fix.
I went mossberg because brand reliability and I can't really think of another brand that makes a shotty that can reliably feed mini shells. I like the action of the remmy but I didn't really feel like spending time trying to find an old Remington on the webs. If you feel like spending the time It'll probably be worth it but IMO the mossy is nearly all of the way there compared to a remington and has plenty of aftermarket support if you sincerely need to change something you don't like about it.
20" Mossberg 590S.
Choked barrel, optics cut, feeds short shells without an adapter, multiple front sling points, bayonet lug (for those Instagram shots), full-length mag tube, and ghost-ring sights are available. Only negative is the ugly logo on the receiver.
>mossy or remmy?
Winny.
Supreme taste
>resisting the inner urge to drop $200 on ATI garbage to make my 1200 look like it came out of CoD4
Mossberg because Remingtons are for boomer fudd hunters
I'm going to piggyback OPs thread. Is there a better semi auto shotgun for ~$1000 or preferably less than the Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol?
Goddamn you all abandoning it as soon as I post
I would say save up and get a proper Beretta 1301 (tactical or comp) or even an M4, but you won't do that, so I will recommend what I consider to be great semis otherwise:
Many varieties of M2 going back 2 decades can be found for cheap, many M1 Super 90 from the 90's (not the newer remake which is just a cheap M2) are still in perfect service. Mossberg 930 and 940 are okay, but they tend to need some work, a good comp JM Pro model can be found for under $1000 new. Many varieties of Remington semis are really damn good, even the V3 which was/is a new offering. There are Franchi and Weatherby semi-auto shotgun models which are essentially Benellis but made elsewhere in Italy.
Or alternatively, just get a Turkish clone (don't pls they suck) if you really need something built to budget.
mossberg
new remingtons are ass
I like the safety on the mossy better
t. lefty
Won a rusty 870 wingmaster on an auction site, any tips to make this thing better while being as cheap as possible? So far planning to chop the barrel and rub it with an oily steel wool to clean up the rust, anything else needed?
sights and sling possibly needed as well
Just keep it oiled and the patina will keep well enough. Sling mount end cap or just wrap it around the barrel post and drill the stock. It'll be a faithful blaster to the end of your days.
Really only thing (that would cost a little bit of money) would be slapping a mag tube extension on it, since you're planning on chopping the barrel anyway you might as well go full riot gun mode and a flush fitting mag tube.
If not, like the other anon said just get an end cap sling mount, they're not very expensive, I think like $10.
cerakote it after cleanup
also you could just buy a modern 18.5 in barrel, unless that is still too long for you.
Mossberg
The 7+1 shot model 500/88 for $250-$300 is hands down all the shotgun you will ever need.
Don't forget the ammo carrier and light.
If you're feeling cheeky, stick in an OPSOL plug to carry 12 mini shells of buckshot or slug.
I’m in love with my mossy 590 20 inch. I’m sure Remingtons are more than fine, Mossberg just stood out to me. Thumb safety, bayonet lug, simple take down, abundance of parts and general looks. Funny thing was my cop uncle urged me to get an 879 because “muh police shotgun” and was pretty disappointed I didnt. Oh well.
Plus the heat shield is just pure sex.
late 80s R870 owner here. shit's nice.