anyone have any experience using a monkey's fist? I want to make one. I know that there are better EDC self defense alternatives, but I think they're cool and I just want to have one.
Really, I want to see a video of someone using one. You can find gore videos online of streetfights involving knives, and even a pocket knife can be deadly. I've seen a video of someone using brass knuckles also. I've never seen a video of someone using a monkey's fist.
I don't know if they're actually very effective. Of course it would be better to have a monkey's fist than to be completely unarmed, but can they really output much damage? Compared to any other impact weapon, their only advantage is concealability.
tbh if you just want one for the novelty of it, who cares, but definitely do not try to use it in an actual self defence scenario
>definitely do not try to use it in an actual self defence scenario
>id rather be unarmed
what these anons said, save the paracord for making a sling with. you'll have more fun and gain shooter skills
>than to be completely unarmed,
no, let me learn you something, Id rather be unarmed than with one of those.
get some MMA hand wraps and learn to handharden by doing hopping pushups against concrete and asphalt, learn to shadowbox and a strike style at a consistently fast tempo you can keep up with.
buy, train with, and carry a handgun. Maybe bear mace if you can withstand/bare-with some friendly chemical irritation yourself, but dont think too hard about other "non lethal" or melee weapons like a knife or other garbage.
become the weapon so you cannot be disarmed
You can do all of those AND master the monkey's fist.
why the frick would i want to smack someone with a weighted plushy on a lanyard when I can simply Daniel Penny someone with some elementary MCMAP within 60 seconds of them threatening me or someone else?
b-cum the weapon you think you want to use, Black person
Because a monkey's fist would let you do it in 20 seconds. Tools let you do things more efficiently you dumb Black person.
might as well step it up to a meteorhammer or a rope knife then, you dumb fricking ninja.
I am also advocating for MMA + hidden gat for legal reasons, it's a more conventional loadout, especially if you add a CS spray in there somewhere to show the jury that you "really tried to do it non lethally".
Based, insistent monkeyfist poster. He won't be detered
I know them Slungshots, but IMO you need a bigger one than that to fight off an assailant.
Better yet, drill MMA and wrestling/grappling.
is good, but you'd be better served with good range control, grapple control, and strike placement/timing than "Tempo Tempo Tempo" as this will translate to fighting if the person has a knife, which is not a non-lethal weapon.
Tempo is nice, but being able to step back, think, and meet the situation is always better for a street fight.
Carry chapstick/keys/other small things in your pockets to grip onto instead of worrying too hard about training your hands to make them super hard when you fight. I oftentimes don't keep my hands clenched when I fight, and typically have them loose until I connect, but that takes years.
>"Tempo Tempo Tempo"
this is beyond true for all fights from unarmed individual combat all the way to commanding battalion scale battles augmented with BVR indirect fire support and drone swarms.
if you /k/+PrepHole you would know this, that is why military branches like the USMC grant promotion points for doing book reports off the commadants reading list. idk other branches, but I am 98% sure every military branch and even every national uniformed military has something equivilant.
Literacy grants you the tactical upper hand.
You are confusing my meanings.
No, shadowboxing nor "a strike style at a consistently fast tempo you can keep up with" will advantage you any more than other methods in a street fight or self-defense situation. In fact, they may disadvantage you if your "tempo" eclipses your capacity to react.
Tempo is good at the strategic level where being able to push forward before the other officer can get information on what's happening and plan, then organize a response, not when you have to defend yourself in the street in an emergency.
What you want is something called combat urgency, tempered with the calmness to be able to step back and think about the situation. You don't want to just train to get really good at the Demsky Step, because that's how you get shanked. Or you get someone like me who just sees this happening, compensates, and nails you with a right cross because charging like a Rhino without the capacity to back it up in the brains department is fricking stupid.
Your priorities are self-preservation, so that you have the best possible chance of meeting the next second's possible hazards in as best a form as you can, not to knock the other guy out like it's a title fight in a boxing match.
Fighting is not a strong man's game. It's a smart man's game.
>Source. I actually train, and have for years, on everything from about eight different unarmed styles, to bows, various swords, spears and rifles.
A slungshot is a conceal carry weapon anon. It's just of dubious effect at OP pic sizes.
violence of action will come with daily training and studying.
but the pace of attacks, evasions, and manipulation of your attacker(s) is what i was trying to build off of your temp statement. and same, just under a decade concurrently.
to build off of what I mean, yeah dont stick to autopiloting on dempsy rolling on them, but if you train to strike, dodge and manipulate at a much higher tempo, and your shadowboxing imaginary enemies (built from past assault experiences, but ramp them up to olympic level athletes on steroids, refine by sparring with friends bigger+smaller and outnumber you, and correct for anatomical inaccuracies) are faster than your irl attackers, you can see when people are positioning themselves to fatal funnel you or see when you will get suckerpunched.
my advice is dont be shy about acting like a cringy autistic coward homosexual and actually keep distance from anyone suspicious and do a half dempsy to dodge around normalgays when you need to get close. Learn psychology to compensate for not being able to read people (autism) and assume the worst about everyone but act like a gentleman/lady on the surface and meditate/go to therapy to balance out the homicidal-str8-killer conditioning.
one last thing for everyone here, but especially OP:
there's this thing called Strategic Opponent Management, aka "puppeting" someone. Black folk do this, whisky tango trailer park imbred fricks do this, so do wild animals.
you shadow box your potential attacker to shift their position, velocity, and acceleration, you can draw them into chokepoints or "zugzwang" (if youre a chess player).
technically, doing this is is legally considered "4th degree assault" in many jurisdictions, but if nothing bad happens, you can always talk/lawyer your way out of trouble, there's almost no downsides in a bigger town where your social rep wont carry as much weight, especially if everyone else besides the potential/pertinent attacker is the only one to experience getting nonphysically manhandled by you.
>especially if everyone else besides the potential/pertinent attacker is the only one to experience getting nonphysically manhandled by you.
oops, typo i meant
especially if everyone else in town sees you as a friendly chill dude, and the potential attacker is the only one who had experienced being strong armed by you.
>I studied the blade
400lb neckbeard with a katana calling it
monkey fist would one tap you big lad, settle down
I purchased a bag of 1.5" ball bearings to make into monkeys fists, I've made probably 80 of them in the last 10 years.
There are zero circumstances I would choose one over a firearm.
They take less than half an hour to make if you aren't moronic, the only real annoying part is feeding the slack back through to tighten it.
>made monkeys fist out of 1.5in ball bearings
The balls in those are like 3mm why would you do this
are you moronic? a monkey's fist can be any size, not just the useless ones you see women buying from self defense sellers on Amazon.
getting hit by a 1.5" ball bearing wrapped in paracord will kill someone, a 3mm ball will not unless you use the paracord attached to it as a garrote
The balls inside of ball bearings are also called ball bearings. Yes, this is confusing, but it is the common vernacular.
OP might get charged with a sex statute on top of an assault and/or manslaughter charge.
I really want to make a blackjack. I think the leather is kind of cringey and outdated though. Is it possible to make a blackjack using paracord or some other material?
you want something like this GHK coin sap, or make your own out of some rivets and triple ply marine hose
Um sir this is a weapons board, not a sex shop
There's a DIY Paracord blackjack tutorial on YouTube
nice bdsm kit
I challenge you to take one hit from the smallest blackjack, cosh or sap you can find. Chances are you won't be feeling very frisky afterwards
try me, homosexual
Always love seeing your collection. I just own a midget sap myself, want to get a convoy at some point.
what magical properties are these supposed to have? it's just a small, flexible club.
Filled with dense lead. It'll kill or incapacitate someone quicker than a knife, while being smaller than a baton.
The only problem is legality.
law enforcement used to carry them until they started leaving too many vegetables in their wake. Turns out there is no safe way to knock someone out with a blow on the head, and the force concentrated by a heavy lead weight accelerating on the end of a lever is more than sufficient to cause an epidural or subdural hematoma and subsequent potentially fatal brain damage from the pressure buildup.
I carry a MGL Hot Tamale daily. $15 in loose quarters packs a punch if needed.
i like the hot tamale v2 personally, but nice belt setup anon
v2 didn't exist when IO picked mine up. How much does it hold?
about $16 worth if I used dimes to fill in smaller spaces.
A guy I know flys with a 12" piece of 550 cord and a large bolt. Never been stopped by TSA. The bolt and paradord are in different parts of his pack. I wouldn't do it and don't think you should either.
Monkeys fists are based because you can always make one. Weapon restriction is always gay, thus anything easy to build is based.
Just tie some cord around a baseball.
If you want to upgrade to lead or steel, then get a lead or steel ball and tie one up.
They're fun to play with and are a nice entry to paracord shit. They can hurt, but frick using them against anyone that actually wants to get you
stupid old woman boss had one on her Keychain. I said I wouldn't use that it would just make the person angry, she acted like it was a threat to her, but it's true if she hit me with that I'd beat her fricking face in
The ones sailors used to one shot kill people with were as big as your fist or bigger, and had a steel or lead weight in the middle.
This modern garbage is just that, garbage.
>paracord
>monkey's fist
>that small
Lol. Protip, OP: those old-fashioned saps and blackjacks that sailors used to make were made of hard-laid small-diameter cordage (1/8" and smaller) woven (usually needle hitched) around a ball of lead with a sinnet handle, usually with a core of either a rolled sheet of leather or solid sinnet and then covered in more weaving and often with turk's heads for extra grip. It was also almost always varnished or tarred at various points to make it more resistant to decay. If you want to learn how to do stuff like that then you need a copy of the Ashley Book of Knots, a lead sinker and some of the proper cordage. You also need practice. I encourage you to do it; it's great fun.
>those old-fashioned saps and blackjacks that sailors used to make were
-called Slungshots or Monkey's fists, not Saps or Blackjacks, you fricking inlander scum.
I was translating for the moron; I've been practicing ropework since I was 10 and I've lived on multiple sailing vessels at various points in my life.
buy a 12oz ballpean hammer
If you've never fisted a girl I highly recommend it, it's def a bucket list item.
>Of course it would be better to have a monkey's fist than to be completely unarmed
Doubt
Sailors were smashing skulls with them for 200 years before you were born.
Abe Lincoln actually defended a man in court who one shot someone with a monkey's fist. The man died instantly.
Depending on where you live, a sap like that can be just as illegal to carry as a gun or knife. If you're going to risk that penalty, might as well pack something effective.
learn how to read
Take your own advice. What we're you complaining about -- now?
Actually, even more illegal. A sap can be an "always illegal to possess or carry" item, like a sword cane. At least a knife or gun can be a legal carry option.
Might just as well make a simple pocket flail with the little weight and a leather strap attached to it and looped around your arm.
>Monkey fists are often used in shibari and bondage, tied partway down the rope to be used as a gag.
op's out on the streets waving a sex toy around
Why use a ball of paracord, when even the simplest soccer kicks are more effective?
An actual monkey's fist is much larger and has a steel or lead ball in it.
That makes a lot more sense than OP pic
>wish for an EDC impact weapon
>it looks like an anal toy
>ask for impact weapon
>get (prostate) impact weapon
Sasuga
It's just a club/hammer with a wacky string instead of a solid stick.
A Monkey's fist's real purpose is for BDSM.
Most people seem to use it by putting it inside their palm and punching. Yes, it does add stregth to a punch to hold an object in your palm, but it doesn't have to be some Black person paracord DIY shit. A lighter, a matchbox, anything that can fit in your hands really.
Source : pic related
Nice nard thrasher bro, make sure you use non-abrasive rope to go for the internal bruising rather than surface damage if you really wanna interrogate those detainees testes most effectively
Can we have a melee weapon general instead of clogging catalog with half way spam threads?
>Stop talking about weapons reee
They're just kinda cool
What kind of braid/knot is that on the handle?
Snake knots, tied off by a square knot
No jig. It was a pain in the ass.
>They're just kinda cool
true. how did you make yours? did you buy a jig?
Too small
>monke no like fisting
My former job at a fed agency had a guy run the barricade and make it to the entrance of the building before the cops could catch up. When the first officer got to the guy he was knocked out with a cue ball in a sock.
>question about quirky weapon
>lmao just shoot them
Why is /k/ like this?
Because you double-linebreak after greentext.
Fricking stupid. If im at arms length of an attacker who is doing something that legally justifies me using that level of force its hands<fixed blade<pistol. If this is the best you have keep your hands empty in order to defend yourself ffs. Id take pepper spray or a bright light over this.
learn to read
I doubt any of the wishes you make on that will come true
Even if they do, isn't it supposed to end all horrible?
You're better off with a sock and an orange.
Fun
What did this guy use?
Looks like he used his cellphone for extra punch or it also looks like he used a Slapper
I know the defender succumbs to doing crime on the attacker after a few hits, but it's so satisfying to watch. Wish the defender ended up unloading the attackers weapon into his leg or genitals for that Black person to bleed out painfully and never be able to recover even if the attacker was rescued. Leave the body to send a message to the city.
Some form of sap? Thought he was going to dome the c**t after he retrieved the handgun.
It looks like glitch or edit into the clip at the 27-28 second mark. Before that, it looks like he has... something, but after that, it definitely looks like a camera phone. lmao this guy is takings pics. Bravo!
you need HOW MANY assemblers for a chain that spits out 20 tier 3 modules per minute??
Shouldn't have decided to fight a biter with a monkey fist then.
why not just use a rock
Or a padlock and paracord to lock up your bike or whatever.
me a few train-hoppers and one of 'em wore a bike chain and lock (with the key still inside), just tells people its for his bike and nobody says anything.
True story, one time in high school a kid pulled out one of those things and cracked a guy with it and knocked him down, at which point he jumped on top and started whaling on the guy, so one of the guy’s friend grabbed the Texan flag and ran the kid through. It was awesome, the flag had one of those old timey bodkin spear points on it.
>bodkin spear points
What
A lot of fricking tough guys ITT lmao
I’d mop the floor with all of you