looking for corded hobbyist-tier sliding beveling compound miter saw recommendations under $450 - for what I'm looking to do, all I need is something that can reliably do 12" crosscuts @ 45 degrees as I'll be cutting mainly 2x12s at 90 and 45
I was all set to try the Ridgid R4222 despite the known issues but Home Depot won't ship it or deliver it for free, they want $80, so frick them
all of the ones I've looked at in this price range have some known flaw
in addition to the Ridgid, I've looked at the Metabo, the Kobalt, Craftsman, Wen, Ryobi, Delta Cruzer
JET, Bosch, Makita, etc. are too expensive
size, weight, etc. are not important
>all of the ones I've looked at in this price range have some known flaw
>in addition to the Ridgid, I've looked at the Metabo, the Kobalt, Craftsman, Wen, Ryobi, Delta Cruzer
>JET, Bosch, Makita, etc. are too expensive
You get what you pay for in this space.
I'm well aware, just can't justify spending that much
it's not sliding, need the slide for the extra crosscut capacity
usually the 45 degree crosscut capacity is 2" - 4" less than the 90 degree
you CAN flip the work piece of course and perform 2 cuts if you can line it up
but then why even bother buying a miter
you would think so, but they won't for that particular model atm
I believe if it's not in stock within 100 miles they won't ship to store
I have a Chicago Electric miter saw that slides, has a 12 inch blade, etc. The built in angle measurements are off, but I just use an angle gauge before making cuts. I think it cost me less than $200.
>I'm well aware, just can't justify spending that much
Buy, use, sell.
lowes or home depot can also ship it to a store for free and you can pick it uyp there
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-10-in-Dual-Bevel-Sliding-Miter-Saw-R4241/315635520
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-12-Amp-8-1-2-in-Corded-Portable-Single-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-with-48-Tooth-Carbide-Blade-CM8S/204405106
>12" crosscuts
>size not important
OP here
I went with the 12" Delta Cruzer which was on "sale" for around $420
usually around $600-$700 apparently
don't really feel like waiting until N-word Friday for "deals" which are almost never on the good stuff, only on the overstock crap no one actually wants
also checked used... nothing
like this for the 12" DeWalt on ebay which was the only 12" I saw there:
>$434.99
>+$154.24 shipping
lmao
and craiglist... same
saw some boomer offering an old $10 miter box for $50
size = footprint, clearance, weight, form factor, etc.
never said it has to be perfect, even the Kapex isn't perfect
and some of the flaws are much more serious than others
I'm not making boutique furniture
it actually has copycat mecha arms
Was seriously looking at this one, the Bosh, and the Ridgid version. Like the whole robotic arm configuration. Hope it works well for you.
the Bosch is definitely better if you can afford it
I've never seen ~95% of Bosch tools go on sale, only their little single-task things like laser levels except around the holiday season refurbs from their semi-pro line go on sale on ebay
you probably already know this but the main things beyond convenience features that you get with more expensive saws is less deflection and less blade wobble
if you don't need the 12" capacity definitely go for a 10", it will have less of both of those problems
That Ridgid version is new. I believe some of their new corded tools are being made by Delta or one of the other big companies, and some look nice but they don’t have the lifetime warranty of the TTI made Ridgid.
Also flash sales and father’s day sales on DeWalt still pop up a lot, and plenty of it is good, like anon got that DeWalt kit and ended up with $800-$900 worth of saw and stand for $400
Those 12” DeWalt saws and stands went really fast from Home Depot.
That mecha arm looks cool though mostly since you don’t need an extra ~12” behind the saw for the sliding mechanism. I always have to pull mine out away from the wall to use it.
I think you should wait and watch for sales. The 12” DeWalt that everybody loves that costs like $600 goes on sale from time to time for $400-$500.
Just checked, it’s $550 right now down from $650 at Home Depot, but I remember during the holiday season they had a real good deal that may have included a free stand.
I got the Ryobi 15A 10” sliding saw with a free stand for <$250 last year with the holiday sale. No complaints for hobbyist stuff but I didn’t want to spend >$400. I think you can get a good DeWalt if you wait for sales.
Lowe’s tends to have real good clearance sales on larger equipment like that too, worth taking a look if you happen to be near a store. Might be able to find a less popular brand like Metabo for dirt cheap with enough left over for a nice stand and blade.
>The 12” DeWalt that everybody loves that costs like $600 goes on sale from time to time for $400-$500.
Yep. Last year I had to replace my Milwaukee 10" Magnum after 20 years of faithful service. Got the Dewalt at Lowes for $400.00 and a free Dewalt stand ($229.00).
My dad bought one a while back, works great. I really love the light/shadow blade guide system over a laser, too, since it always aligns off the blade itself.
My $250 Ryobi has the same shadow guide, I was pretty stoked about that when I got it. Super easy and lets you know how wide the cut is going to be too when you’re trying to get shit real precise
That stand is on sale today for $89
Anybody ever know a homie who used one of these things?
I hate Harbor Freight with a passion, but pic related is only $299 this weekend. If OP needs the saw immediately and can’t wait for the $600 DeWalt to go $200 off, it might be worth looking at the Hercules.
I think it’s still a 90-day warranty which is gay and not sure if you could easily find new brushes and shit 5-10 years down the line.
I bought one today and used it for about 10 minutes so I can't write a proper review but I have no complaints.
I have one. Haven't had any issues in a year. As for the warranty just use it a lot when you first buy it. If its going to break most likely it will do so right off. Hercules is their main "brand" so I have little question they force quality control on those lines. The shadow guide allowed perfect cuts. Be sure and get a spare blade. I keep a rough cut and a fine cut at all times. Haven't used the non ferrous yet though. Also got the matching stand its great to.
A few years back I bought a blue/pro series Bosch GCM 8 SJL (laser equipped) along with a pro GTA 3800 table, for a total of $499 on sale.
Msrp on those totals in the neighbourhood of $800. So there are definitely deals to be made from time to time.
For resale value alone, it makes a lot more sense spending the extra $50 and getting a Bosch or other big name package deal like that, over some $299 harbour bait saw.
Heck, the (much) better and longer lasting oem blade on the Bosch saw alone justifies the extra $50... good blades are expensive.
If I decide to sell my Bosch saw and table, I can get a decent price and get a good portion of my initial investment back ($250 easily). If I try to sell a harbor bait or other cheap saw on the other hand, there's practically no resale value at all.
Which brings me to another point: have you thought about buying used? Especially things like a GTA3800 table, a simple and strictly mechanical item which you can't really go wrong with. Even if abused, it takes a beating and keeps on trucking.
Aaaaand lots of people, me included, buy these completely overkill pro series saws for simple small home renovations or odd jobs around the house, and put hardly any hours on them at all - meaning they're usually good as new. But now that I've grown accustomed to the precision of good pro tools I couldn't imagine going back to black&decker tier shit.
If I were limited to $450 I would absolutely be checking out new-ish model years of used brand name saws and TESTING BEFORE BUYING.
Good luck anon.
another I want perfect thing for cheap thread.
$450 is actually a realistic budget as long as he doesn’t expect the most expensive Bosch with the mecha arm sliding setup.
Pic related with the stand was <$250 because I shopped with the deals, and the DeWalt 12” sliding saw with a free stand was $400 or $500 at the same time.
If you need a sliding saw, you're going to have to shell out a bit more than $450. Have you considered just renting a saw for your project?
More DIYers should rent which also lets them sample the gear which survives rental use.
It doesn’t take many uses for me to buy instead of rent. If the tool is <$500, if you rent that thing >2 times and spend half a day picking it up and returning it, plus the rental cost and dealing with a machine that was abused by other morons, I would seriously consider just buying the thing as long as you have the storage space.
Also when you get a hairbrained idea at midnight, it’s hard to find a rental.
While I recommend renting to noobs to learn what to buy, the more hardcore like self study and research so much we're covered in that respect.
I would only rent heavy equipment not tools unless something big bucks like a core drill but those are getting cheaper. The first job normally clears the cost of the tool then the next decades are profit and convenience.
The big stuff pays off if bought opportunistically over time. I've a pretty complete professional tier welding shop with (since I'm equipment fiend) more machines than many pros and far more industrial gas cylinders than most single man outfits.
The hardcore (you know who you are) should buy tools as early in life as practical.
>guys i need a saw
>it has to be precise
>make perfect cuts
>have lots of extra features
>and also give good blowjobs
>i looked at all the common budget options
>they're too expensive
>i have $34.63
>what saw should i get
they're all about the same in the price range that you are looking at. you'll need to pay a bit more for the upper tier saws to get better stiffness and accuracy at full extension. If you don't need the 12, the 10 should be more accurate and give less blade deflection. you should also budget for a better blade. almost all the stock blades, even the upper tier saws, are not great and will result in rougher cuts and tear out, even with a backing fence.
>better blade
Go get them xmas sales that are still laying around. Home Depot still has Diablo 2pks of 10” and 12” 40T blades for $44/$50. And Lowes had 2pks of Spyder blades for around the same price, and I just found them marked down to $22. Would’ve preferred Diablo because I have used them with good results, I’m hoping these Spyder blades are decent. Just stuck it on my saw.
can't you find a pneumatic one?
find just the head and use it to an air compressor. would last longer then some hobby electric saw.
https://www.csunitec.com/saws/dry-cutting-circular-saws/9-air-circular-saw
never seen one of these
I'm sure my compressor could run this for a matter of seconds
A $150 brushed circ saw could cut that faster and cleaner.
This is interesting to me because I work in facilities where we prefer to or are forced to to to use pneumatic tools because of flammable materials(including vapor clouds). I just don't see how you'd keep the blade from creating sparks or hots unless you drenched it with water, but you can do that with a pneumatic tool as opposed to an electric or battery tool. I guess they typically prefer battery tools to corded because you don't need extension cords and gfci protection. If you need to make a lot of cuts might be more efficient. Or if power isn't accesible, run some 50ft 3/4 hose(s) to wherever you need it and then you can use iflt for the other tools as well. I dunno, I don't build structures.
You can power pneumatics with CO2 (common in industry) if exhaust air is an issue.
An issue with large air motors is noise but ear plugs are cheap.
Ryobi miter saw is quite underrated. I worked at a place that they had 3 of them in a training school and they never tore up or anything. Hell I preferred it to the Dewalt. It's kinda sleek imo
No complains with the Kobalt 10" compound miter. Picked it up new for $130 a few years ago on a doorbuster sale at Lowes. It goes for more these days but keep an eye out for opportunities.
Lowe’s has cheap deals on a lot of these big tools in-store. Most of the Kobalt saws were marked down pretty good as well.
I got the Kobalt 12" dual bevel for 190$ from Lowes 1 day only sale.
I just bought one for 30$ on Marketplace
Is it really worth the money to invest on a mitter saw over pic related? Talking about metal cutting here.
What are you mainly cutting? If it's metal, get that. If it's wood, the miter saw. In fact, I'd recommend a cheap chop saw if you're regularly doing any kind of inlay or other metal-cutting application.
Cold saws work far better. My machinistbro bought one and it was a joy to use before some frickstick stole it.
OP fails to specify what xir is cutting and how thicc which is pretty important in choosing a cutting method.
Don't buy an abrasive chop saw! I have two and never use them. One was free from someone who never used it either. I might use the motor for something but I've not touched them in years. The thick kerf wheels cut slowly and the whole thing is basically for rebar on jobsites.
OTOH a 6" angle grinder with thin kerf abrasive discs is magnificent. mobile and besides cutting runs all the smaller grinder accessories. I've cut 1/2" plate (slowly of course) but it sails through lighter stock. I use diamond grit blades for sheet metal and love 'em.
Just bought a Dewalt 780 miter saw from Northern Tools. It's marked down 23% off + free shipping on their site. I got an email saying clearance items were an additional 30% off in store. Called in and spoke to the manager to make sure I was reading it right, and after some back and forth he reluctantly agreed that if I could show him the email he would honor it. it was a 3 hour round trip to the city but I walked out of there with a new miter saw for $379.
Sale ends tonight at midnight, 23% is still better than what Home Depot or Lowes is offering right now.
That's a damn good deal.
If you aren't putting it in a station you should get a stand for it with what you saved.
This. It's so nice not cutting on the ground like a filthy animal.
I've been wanting a cheap way to crosscut long items without having to screw around with my table saw too much. Nothing fancy.
I have been through 4 different mitersaws this past week.
Not giving a shit about quality, i first went to craftsman.
The cast iron frame was cracked in places and crumbling. I returned it for a Kobalt, which would not run out of the box. Sadly it was discontinued and the last in the store. I returned it and upgraded to a Hitachi 12". It was nice but was missing all the accessories and was clearly used. I asked nicely if I could get a discount. The lady at the helpdesk at lowes wanted to give me a discount, but her supervisor said no. She instead let me refund it and pulled some strings to replace it with a 780 for $399.
Holy crap, I have never used a decent miter saw before and its actually very nice. I thought the LED shadowline would be a meme, but it's actually not bad.
Is it way more than what a pallet-woodworker needs? Sure.
But I feel like I will probably never have to replace it in my lifetime.
Lowe’s near me had pic related sitting there last week too. They almost always have something on clearance with those larger shop tools because nobody actually shops at Lowe’s.
I bought an old "taskforce" 10" sliding miter on a bosch folding stand for $125 on faceberg marketplace. Saw works but looks like ass, I figure as long as I have a good blade on the saw it's all the same right?
There’s random little features, but the biggest thing is the good saws are heavy and beefy and everything stays square and straight over the years. The biggest complaint about the cheap saws is that they don’t stay square after some use and abuse.
I'll check square on it pretty regularly then. If it's a problem I'll upgrade the saw and keep the stand, it's a nice stand with wheels so you can roll it around folded up. One of the wheels was fricked up so I replaced them both with $8 harbor freight hand truck wheels of the same size and feel like I got a hell of a deal on just the stand even if the saw is mediocre.
Yeh for the money it will be better than cutting with a circular saw. And if the stand is nice, you can run the cheaper saw until you see a good deal on a nice saw you like and jump on it, put it on the Bosch stand, and sell the cheap 10” for $50-$100 back on the marketplace.
You can adjust the saws to a limit. If the cheap thin table is warped, you’re sort of fricked, but a lot of other things can be adjusted. The more expensive saws tend to come square and stay square for much longer than cheap ones, but at least a cheaper one sitting on a stand in the garage isn’t getting abused the same way as a jobsite saw that is in and out of the bed of a pickup truck multiple times a week.
I did one job when I bought mine without the stand, and I got lucky as hell when the black friday sales dropped 2 weeks later and the saw I got was on sale with a $160 stand for free. Went back to the store with my receipt, talked to the guy at customer service for a minute, walked out of there with a free stand. It’s super nice when dealing with 8ft+ boards, that shit can be almost impossible without the stand.
I've had good luck by buying mid-tier stuff and having the motor rebuilt by a good electric motor company, a 'dip and bake' job. They all do this, it's cheap, and will transform your saw. Don't even use the saw, take the motor off and get it done first thing.
threadly reminder to ignore tripgays.
Reminder not to take advice from PrepHole without doing your own research.
The most expensive Bosch looks super nice. The DeWalt is like the most common on the jobsite and people love it and the Bosch is another $300 on top of that.
Went w DeWilt and the roller stand
Wanted a battery powered on but Milwaukee felt like cheap shit in comparison to the corded DeWalt.
RIP in peace Makita miter, ye lasted 15 hard years and 10 easy ones.
You're supposed to cope kinside corners for baseboard
Good job.
I mean everybody fricking uses those things with no real complaints, so have fun.
So what's the Gucci miter saw that's not a Festerstool