Minimal Gear

Do I really need to carry a hatchet? Or a spade? Or a saw?

I'm starting to think that once you have a solod foundation of knowledge you can do just fine with a good knife and a packed canteen kit with fire starters and fishing / trapping kits just to save time and inconvenience.

> Hatchet
Or just pick up branches for your fire.

> Spade
Hands, flat stone or log

> Saw
Are you playing Bob the Builder?

> Gun

Can't you make a spear? Kill a bird with a stone? Make fish traps? Make a bow?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know this is bait but sure. It's called primitivism. Gear just makes your life easier. Saves you time, saves you some troubles. Some of us don't want to use a bow drill to make their fire every time they go PrepHole.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Read OP. I included fire starters for convenience. My point is some people carry stuff they realistically don't need like hatchets, axes or saws, not to even get into what hikehomosexuals hump. Sure tools have their uses. But I'd rather spare my back and make do.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The same principle applies to all the other tools you've mentioned. Saves time, saves you the hassle.

        Unless you're here arguing you're as effective with a stone as with a gun, or could ever be.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Let's say you need more firewood than what you can find on the ground. There comes the solid knife to chop of smaller branches.

        You'd carry a hatchet to process larger amounts of lumber, an axe to cut the forest down. Useful, not essential. Neither's saw for 'le' precision cuts, a tool that can not be sharpened without a special tool if at all. If you want worms you can dig with your hands.

        The same principle applies to all the other tools you've mentioned. Saves time, saves you the hassle.

        Unless you're here arguing you're as effective with a stone as with a gun, or could ever be.

        Sure. Gun without cartridges = dead weight. Wouldn't not educate myself in alternatives.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >an axe to cut the forest down
          You have no concept of how to cut down a tree.

          You shouldn't be adopting a view of the outdoors from movies, anon. Go outside sometimes. Maybe bring a little more stuff than you actually need. After, see what you've used and what you didn't need. Leave the latter at home.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > You have no concept of how to cut down a tree.

            Idk. In my backyard we hit tree with axe enough. Tree fall down. Use chainsaw mostly. Then We chainsaw logs. Then we split logs with axe. Then warm winter. Grug don't get.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Grug don't get.
              Of course you don't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Would you explain to me the esoteric, recently new process of the recent practice of cutting down a tree?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >disingenuous moronation
                Sure I'll humor you. Remember you said you'd "carry an axe to cut the forest down"? And a saw for "precision cuts"? Everything about that posts screams "I've never taken down a tree". Obviously moronic things to say, so you've decided to move your goalposts to now include chainsaws.

                Even if you want to reject modernity, you'd get yourself a crosscut logging saw. Unless you plan on processing your wood by sitting on it and weeping.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > "carry an axe to cut the forest down"

                So you're to moronic that I didn't mean that literally? Of course you couldn't "cut the forest down" with a hatchet, or alone.

                My point was that a hatchet is unnecessary for survival. Dry wood literally lays on the ground. Trees are most likely alive, and the wood moist.

                Checked. Why do I have to deal with "peeple" like you?

                It's good mines say "Front Towards Enemy" xD

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Our plastic canteens say "Do not expose to fire" for a reason xD.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Our plastic canteens say "Do not expose to fire" for a reason xD.

                Nevermind, you're actually moronic on multiple fronts. You can look up the basics of processing firewood yourself. good luck making it through your first winter. You won't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Nevermind, you're actually moronic on multiple fronts. You can look up the basics of processing firewood yourself. Good luck making it through your first winter. You won't.

                So will you explain the process then?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, I don't think I will. I know a lost cause when I see one.

                Google how much firewood it takes to keep you warm for even a single freezing night. Then ask yourself what you'll do about shelter, bedding and the inevitable rainfall that'll frick up your "dry wood literally lays on the ground" fantasy. You're going to have a miserable if not lethal time in whatever debris shelter you slap together.

                You need a meaningful way to process firewood if you aim for "survival".

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't think I will
                Opinion discarded

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >plan on picky-uppy branches all winter
                >noooo if you don't explain to me why that isn't viable i'm going to pretend to ignore you
                Shut up, stinky little boy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Google how much firewood it takes to keep you warm for even a single freezing night.
                Or just go and try it. Not much of you find the right kind of wood and camp in the right spot with no wind. You can just sleep in a good sleeping bag all night and be fine.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You can just sleep in a good sleeping bag all night
                Yeah, if only OP would bring one, but no. He's here to do some larp caveman shit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Firearms and ammunition cannot be repaired or produced without the use of specialized non-portable machines unavailable to the overwhelming majority. Not to speak of optics and other accesories.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So what is your premise? Doesn't sound like you're talking about going outside. Sounds like you're talking about a doomsday survival scenario.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You just plan your trip where you know there is good wood, small standing dead trees are easy to find. You just rip them out of the ground it's easy. It's also easy to find stumps of larger dead trees and rip them out of the ground and burn the whole thing. It's also easy to rip bark off dead trees. Ring bark some small trees with a knife and they'll be fire wood next year.

          Look on ridgelines, the best places to camp anyway. The wind and sun drys things out up there real fast.

          I obviously PrepHole I'm a completely different biome than you folks but damned if I'd need a hatchet anywhere other than a snowed in place in winter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Granted, hatchets and saws are moronic for most types of PrepHoleings. But on the other hand you have ultralight and primitivist gays who are like
        >hurr, I didn't need my first aid kit on this hike
        >therefore I won't bring it anymore

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its also called escapism or larping

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're going for minimalism, all you need is a hatchet. You can do everything with a sharp hatchet that you can do with a knife, saw or spade, and more.

    Fire lighting kit is essential. Ferro rods are small, light and effective.

    Yes, the more skill you have the less kit you need but that only comes from experience from actually going PrepHole.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Would carry a fishing / trapping kit and swallow my pride.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah fair enough. Not going to catch much using only a hatchet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Gut a deer with a hatchet
      How the frick is a hatchet minimal?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Minimal, not miniature. It is minimal because you only need the one item. I know people who carry a knife, saw and hatchet with them. The point is you don't need to carry all these items, just the one.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this board mostly bubba-tier posts? Are these just imbeciles or is the website's gov't trying to make this shitter appear more active than it is?
    The frick is wrong with this board?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just few years back whole board was filled to the brim with corona tourists until that trend went away
      now its back to beign the outhouse of /misc/ and /k/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >covid tourists
        >Kretins
        LMFAO whatever happened to that terrone di merda trying to hike on the Alps with magnesium army snowshoes and no poles? The one that used to make endless thread about basic things.
        Last I saw of him he made a post mentioning he kept slipping unsurprisingly. He also said he was going to go for a hike for "thousands of kilometers". Did the wog die?
        LMFAO this board.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You need to carry a hatchet OR a saw+knife

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Picking up branches is better. Freshly cut wood is moist and doesn't burn well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >wood is dry until you cut it
      I too think dead standing is like baked chicken

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you take less gear, then you start having to make compromises.
      Taking a bit of extra time or effort because you don't have the optimal tool can be critical in situations where you may not have a lot of usable daylight or calories and making that tool can take resources you just don't have. And sometimes you do need that tool to process your lumber, cook your food or build your shelter effectively.
      It will obviously depend heavily on the season, area, length of the hike and general conditions as to how little you can get away with.

      Decent dead wood just works if there hasn't been enough rain to soak it or if it didn't freeze while soaked.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stop

    Spacing your

    Posts like this
    Also

    Don't put a

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    the greentext arrow/"greater than" sign

    >verification

    >not
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    >uired

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Hatchet
    If you want a fire for staying warm, you want a hatchet. If you just want a small fire for fun, you don't.

    >Spade
    Only necessary in the snow.

    >Saw
    Don't bother

    >Gun
    Maybe for grizzly country. Or if you are a coward.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need anything at all. You can go out completely naked with nothing in your hands but your wiener and balls and you'll survive for an undefined amount of time. Everything you bring with you will increase how long you can survive, how comfortable you are while doing it, or just how much exercise you get from carrying shit around.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would take a saw over axe any day. Less weight, less effort. Paired with a knife you are all set.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf is even the question. You can use a saw for sawing, a hatchet for hatcheting, etc.

    Dont want or need them? Dont bring them.

    Is that a revelation to you or did you just make this post to act superior?

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