If you're using it as a defense rifle, you really can't get much better.
This is, of course, speaking in terms of after-shooting legal repercussions.
There was a study done(I don't remember by who or when) that mocked up a trial and asked a bunch of people in a jury if the guy who shot in self defense should go to jail.
the rate of guilty vs not guilty between an ar15 and the mini-14 was surprising, and shows that If you want a throw-away rifle for legal self defense you can't get much better than the mini-14 with a wood stock.
Yeah, they're less accurate than an ar15, more expensive, and also less reliable, but if your goal is to put it under the bed or in the truck and use it only when necessary, it'll more than pay for itself.
>and also less reliable
Where does this fricking meme come from? Minis will eat anything you feed them and as long as you don't abuse them like a youtuber making a silly WILL IT SHOOT video it will just werk.
Yes, minis are fairly reliable. The old ones have a reputation for being quite inaccurate (5moa or greater, gets worse as the barrel heats up). I don't know much about the new ones other than they're allegedly more accurate >t. Has an old one
Got a newer production one. It's fine at 100 yards, but not what you'd call a tack driver. I run the irons on it, so maybe with glass it'd do better, but the issue with the older ones and the inaccuracy had to do with a thinner barrel profile that heated up too fast and tended to whip badly iirc.
They're much less fun to shoot than they look. My observations from shooting a handful of em: >sights are really low requiring an awkward head position >rock n' lock mags >can have reliability issues >old school ergos
That being said, I've never owned one or shot one enough to get used to the operation. I toyed with the idea of building out a samson, the fact that mags are not interchangeable/expensive turned me off.
Why would you pay $50 for these mags when you can get them for <$40 from literally any online retailer? Every time I see shit from gunjoker I feel like I'm going insane
This only and needing an Allen key to field strip is moronic as are the two non-captive screws. Sold mine. Got an AR. My guns are tools though so OP may like one as art.
They’re great guns. The price is well worth it in my opinion. The only bad part is the proprietary mag. If they took STANAG mags, Ruger wouldn’t be able to keep up with demand. The AR is far more pragmatic and practical and you can get a great AR for Mini-14 prices. I still like my Mini more.
>inaccuracy depending on serial number >shit sights >outdated (not obsolete) m1 action >needs grease instead of clp >not as light as it looks >expensive mags >mags are a heavy failure point, ruger makes the only good ones >limited attachment options
I'd rather get a USGI M1 carbine or a modern production inland if you really want an M1 action rifle. It has better resale value and you're owning a piece of drying up American surplus. .30 carbine ammo is still being made and comes in many loads.
IMO they look better than ARs, but you are paying $1000 for the gun and another $300 in magazines to match a $400 AR in performance. So make sure the meme is worth it to you.
I think I could be convinced to get one if they used stanag mags or if they memed it up more.
The wood stock is a nice thing, but it's not a particularly nice stock that ruger uses, it's still a cheap rifle.
A-TM is also great for the meme if you are into that, looks kinda shit to use, I don't really want a 1/2" aluminum tube as a cheek rest.
1.
They get hot, quick.
They get super hot, quick.
When they get hot, the barrel can droop.
There's an aftermarket for retrofit kits to stop the droop from the barrel being too hot.
They get hot super quick, super hot.
2.
They aren't that accurate or good for mounting optics.
If you get the folder version the little metal peg in front of the mag that holds the stock in place when folded often falls out of the stock. Other than that its a pretty fun gun. I had mine set up with a 3 pin reticle scout scope and custom muzzle brake. I was very fast and accurate with it between targets.
Fwiw Minis have absolutely terrible resale value. Every gunshow I go to I see at least 2 people trying to just get back their money on them and no takers. They're 700$ gun regardless of whatever shifting msrp Ruger places on them
it sounds like you've already made up your mind
i haven't, id prefer to be talked out of it tbh, they're kinda stupid expensive for what they are.
i'd likely be using it as an under bed gun or truck gun and probably would go for the samson folding lower.
blows my mind that no one has figured out how to make a decent cheaper mag for this yet.
If you're using it as a defense rifle, you really can't get much better.
This is, of course, speaking in terms of after-shooting legal repercussions.
There was a study done(I don't remember by who or when) that mocked up a trial and asked a bunch of people in a jury if the guy who shot in self defense should go to jail.
the rate of guilty vs not guilty between an ar15 and the mini-14 was surprising, and shows that If you want a throw-away rifle for legal self defense you can't get much better than the mini-14 with a wood stock.
Yeah, they're less accurate than an ar15, more expensive, and also less reliable, but if your goal is to put it under the bed or in the truck and use it only when necessary, it'll more than pay for itself.
Also it's sorta cool with a wood upper handguard
>and also less reliable
Where does this fricking meme come from? Minis will eat anything you feed them and as long as you don't abuse them like a youtuber making a silly WILL IT SHOOT video it will just werk.
Yes, minis are fairly reliable. The old ones have a reputation for being quite inaccurate (5moa or greater, gets worse as the barrel heats up). I don't know much about the new ones other than they're allegedly more accurate
>t. Has an old one
Got a newer production one. It's fine at 100 yards, but not what you'd call a tack driver. I run the irons on it, so maybe with glass it'd do better, but the issue with the older ones and the inaccuracy had to do with a thinner barrel profile that heated up too fast and tended to whip badly iirc.
>they're kinda stupid expensive for what they are
>truck gun
>truck gun
They're much less fun to shoot than they look. My observations from shooting a handful of em:
>sights are really low requiring an awkward head position
>rock n' lock mags
>can have reliability issues
>old school ergos
That being said, I've never owned one or shot one enough to get used to the operation. I toyed with the idea of building out a samson, the fact that mags are not interchangeable/expensive turned me off.
Why would you pay $50 for these mags when you can get them for <$40 from literally any online retailer? Every time I see shit from gunjoker I feel like I'm going insane
My lgs is usually rather profligate when it comes to prices, but actual Ruger branded mags for the Mini were around $35 last they were in stock.
Cheaper than SCAR mags lmao
At least the scar 17 is a good gun.
Says who?
I think the best use case is to get a 20" barrel with a folding stock and no buffer tube. Plus they look cool.
It looks fricking rad with the foldable stock, do you need another reason ?
If you must, get one used for a good deal. The mini is a very very mid gun that is only redeemed by how cool the folding stock is.
This only and needing an Allen key to field strip is moronic as are the two non-captive screws. Sold mine. Got an AR. My guns are tools though so OP may like one as art.
They’re great guns. The price is well worth it in my opinion. The only bad part is the proprietary mag. If they took STANAG mags, Ruger wouldn’t be able to keep up with demand. The AR is far more pragmatic and practical and you can get a great AR for Mini-14 prices. I still like my Mini more.
>>get an AR instead
>already have
Then stop consooming.
>inaccuracy depending on serial number
>shit sights
>outdated (not obsolete) m1 action
>needs grease instead of clp
>not as light as it looks
>expensive mags
>mags are a heavy failure point, ruger makes the only good ones
>limited attachment options
I'd rather get a USGI M1 carbine or a modern production inland if you really want an M1 action rifle. It has better resale value and you're owning a piece of drying up American surplus. .30 carbine ammo is still being made and comes in many loads.
>0.86crp
IMO they look better than ARs, but you are paying $1000 for the gun and another $300 in magazines to match a $400 AR in performance. So make sure the meme is worth it to you.
I think I could be convinced to get one if they used stanag mags or if they memed it up more.
The wood stock is a nice thing, but it's not a particularly nice stock that ruger uses, it's still a cheap rifle.
A-TM is also great for the meme if you are into that, looks kinda shit to use, I don't really want a 1/2" aluminum tube as a cheek rest.
1.
They get hot, quick.
They get super hot, quick.
When they get hot, the barrel can droop.
There's an aftermarket for retrofit kits to stop the droop from the barrel being too hot.
They get hot super quick, super hot.
2.
They aren't that accurate or good for mounting optics.
3.
Proprietary mags.
Other than that, they're super cool.
Isnt mini 14 is basically scaled down m14 and m 14 is just a glorified m1 garand?
What the frick you need ww2 weapon for?
not op, but state "assault weapon" bans
If you get the folder version the little metal peg in front of the mag that holds the stock in place when folded often falls out of the stock. Other than that its a pretty fun gun. I had mine set up with a 3 pin reticle scout scope and custom muzzle brake. I was very fast and accurate with it between targets.
Palmetto will probably come out with one soon
wow! they made mini 14 from PUBG into a real gun, so cool!
Nah, thats a mini 14 from Vice city.
Fwiw Minis have absolutely terrible resale value. Every gunshow I go to I see at least 2 people trying to just get back their money on them and no takers. They're 700$ gun regardless of whatever shifting msrp Ruger places on them