I'm seriously considering buying this ugly little Fiat as a primary car just for its internal volume and mod possibilities. Tell me all the ways this is a shitty idea.
micro camper mod
I'm seriously considering buying this ugly little Fiat as a primary car just for its internal volume and mod possibilities. Tell me all the ways this is a shitty idea.
Look. The camping module takes up only half of the trunk space. It opens out into a twin bed.
are you 5'5? I cant sleep in anything short of a suburban comfortably
The bed is 6'
yeah it wouldnt work for me, but even if it was long enough id still want extra room on both ends or id feel cramped and wouldnt be able to sleep
Well, not everyone is you.
It's a great everyday car to drive my friends and family around, it fits in every parking space, and plus I don't have to pay for overpriced motels or Airbnb's when I'm out in the country.
I'm still waiting for arguments against it apart from "hurr it's a homosexual euro car".
Just answer the question, how tall are you
6'1
BTW, this car is even smaller than a Honda Civic. It has a 1.8 engine and is dirt cheap.
then you wont fit in a 6' bed moron
I will build a pillow ramp so that my torso is inclined 30 degrees. Praise be to Allah.
It comes with a torso compressor.
If you have land to park it on. Away from eyes. Yes, then it's an instant way to put up inexpensive housing. Change the fluids before you drive it, particularly the brake fluid.
Don't leave it parked on it's wheels where you set-up; get yourself a 12-ton bottle jack $55 and stands. A box of 4 is like $65. They are not jackstands. Just static stands that are adjustable, for levelling an RV or trailer. They should be on wood and blocks.
It certainly beats throwing a bunch of money at a house that 'appreciates' in value. You could spend that money on something more practical, like a boat for the coming flood.
You wot m8s I’m 1m95 and slept in an 1m90 bed for almost a decade, if you sleep on your side you’re 30-50cm shorter anyway. For camping my air mattress is 1m80 and I sleep fine on it for weeks on end.
For camping or living? If the former, have you gone car camping before? If not just rent one first and see if you like it.
If you take out the camping module, the car goes back to a 7 seater.
I could haul huge things in this car too but it has the footprint of a Honda civic.
>Tell me all the ways this is a shitty idea.
FIAT
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Fix It Again, Tony
I think you mean
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People at work will think you're homeless.
Or anywhere, really.
mostly unrelated from OP but is getting an old vintage (50 years old) camper worth the trouble? around my area there are a shit ton for cheap enough, but i'm unsure if it's worth the hassle of dealing with it
Besides your skill level and budget it depends a lot on how it was built to begin with...old Airstreams and similar higher end vintage trailers, figerglass Casitas, etc can be worth a lot fixed up but cheaper ones with wood frames and light guage corrugated aluminum siding are often beyond repair or not worth the effort. Most systems and fittings will be trash at that age and many aren't easily.replaceable with common house type stuff so prepare to pay a lot for cheap crap RV specialty parts like hatch covers, window cranks, cabinet latches and other hardware.
Also keep in mind that many RV parks have pretty strict restrictions on older units, even when they have been immaculately restored. That may or may not matter for your purposes but it's a big part of why so many older RVs are practically worthless...small ones 16' and under that can park in a normal driveway and be towed by a passenger vehicle are always in demand, but anything larger that's over 10-15 years old can be a white elephant.
>many RV parks have pretty strict restrictions on older units
What kind of restrictions?
Trailer age to avoid dirtbags lowering property values and often abandoning nasty old units which are expensive to have moved.
That but also restrictions designed to weed out anything that isn't dead stock in appearance, under the heading of "makeshift repairs"...I had a nicely restored and upgraded trailer and one place in SoCal was merciless over the stupidest shit; a pencil sized hole in a window screen was ticketed as "dilapidated condition" and a custom made screen frame that used greenhouse style shade cloth screening was called a "makeshift repair" as was a custom made fiberglass front window cover/shade and anything that used non- RV fittings and fixtures visible anywhere on the exterior.
All the other campers loved our oddball little rig which was a rare but well respected brand and otherwise just a normal camp trailer, but because it wasn't exactly like all the other RVs we got singled out by the power mad management and harassed all the time.
The last straw was that they got pissed that we pulled our 14' trailer into the full sized 40' space we had to pay for and turned it sideways so our rear facing door and screen room fit the space better...
we still took up less space than the units on either side of us that were 16' wide with their slide outs deployed, and literally none of the campers cared at all and though it was cool that we could do that...
But after years of doing it we were suddenly told that this was completely unacceptable and they tried all kinds of excuses about safety and imposing on the neighboring spaces which were all proven to be bullshit, before they finally admitted that is purely for the sake of conformity. They even said "If we let you do it then we will have to let everyone do it" and when we pointed out that a 30' RV couldn't fit inside the rented space like a 14' one could and there was nothing about it in the rules they got mad and basically just said it was about flexing their muscles with whatever rules they pulled out of their asses, and conformity was more valuable than keeping a long term customer.
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At one point they even tried to say that our 100% original stock awning was "makeshift" just because it didn't look like modern ones, and only relented when I brought in pictures from the internet of that exact camper at an RV show in 1979 with awning attached...it helped that it was on a Friday so the office was full of people checking in who got to see the kind of bullshit power abuse they were signing up for.
RV park and campground management attracts the worst kind of authoritarian moron wannabe dictators, even worse than marina dockmasters who police the way you coil your extra docklines and button your sail covers.
And here's a pic of my camper when I finally decided to openly protest. All the other owners thought it was awesome but the nazis who own the place continued to flex their power mad muscles and had us evicted. Luckily I know a cool guy named Lamb Waynebright or something like that who let us set up on his property. At least he said it was his property.
The sad part of this troll is that many people on this board will be dumb enough to buy it despite the trailer pictured being over twice the length of a 14' camper.
Did the metric/imperial thing trip you up?
Prove it by showing a pic of your dump with all the makeshift repairs and other hippie bullshit.
Prove what? That those mattresses aren't four feet long?
Post a picture of your lovely creation. You know you want to. We won't laugh, I promise.
Rarely. They're money toilets and for what campers cost you can stay in hotels every trip and not have rapidly deteriorating yard art in your driveway. Only old RVs suck more. You were wise to ask. Don't do it.
I use my dual axle box trailer for camping since it does both because all one needs is space for a bed or hammock which I greatly prefer. No need for built-in anything.
Fiat issues aside, having all that permanent shit in there is needlessly expensive and requires a lot of setup. In my experience car camping the best quality of life improvement is having everything setup and ready. If you were to DIY a bed frame that was half that height you'd still have more storage than you'd need and it'd always be ready to go, at a fraction of the price. The concept isn't a shitty idea, that is just a shitty approach.
Probably not. Campers are almost always built like shit even when new. 50 years of rot and use are not going to help that in the slightest. I would expect it to be a giant mouse house full of mold or quickly on its way to getting to that state.
these camping modules are highly overrated. some absolutely worship them, for anyone with a hint of experience in car camping and diy they clearly suck.
a few reasons why
>sleeping on top of all thoose drawers put you in clear view of everyone around you, everome walking by will see your morning wood...
>who the frick brings a sink camping?
>a simple pic related is much better and smaller and you can bring it to your table and cook there or take it hiking
>square and rigid boxes and drawers rarely fit well into any car and you loose so much space
>you will soon get tired of installing/removing such unit and end up either leaving it there permanently or not using it at all. just make it permanent in the first place if you think thats how it will end up.
>get a proper aux battery setup with 12v and usb outlets and lights, you WILL end up draining your starting battery sooner or later if you dont.
dang, forgot pic
and also
>weight and size is your enemy
>dont bring large propane bottles for anything, again pic related
I agree, camper refits are a waste of time, money, weight and space and limits vehicle uses. What I did was just have some plastic storage bins to hold small items and to sleep on top of. I had a portable solar panel/battery as well which also worked great, I didn't need or want permanently attached panels or batteries for those same reasons. You can be a lot more stealthy this way too and park anywhere without people noticing.
Model?
one of these on my road
personally i'd install bass boxes inside