MGCS at IAV 2024

Looks like the German MGCS is taking shape.
https://twitter.com/nicholadrummond/status/1750069734006022285
https://euro-sd.com/2024/01/major-news/36084/german-concept-for-mgcs/

The question is, how will the french ruin it?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ...

    Is that a Strv 2000?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Franco-German MGCS program stole Sweden Stridsvagn 2000 concept confirmed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/rXKEOM0.jpg

        Yeah and it was so fricking shit they chose to invest into Leopards instead.
        It takes French and Germans to finish the job properly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/rXKEOM0.jpg

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        honestly? baserat, if we're not gonna make the design ourselves we might as well have bigger industries make it so we can get it cheaper later on

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    embiggen

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The question is, how will the french ruin it?

    Potential features:
    - Weight reduction to 50 tonnes - more compact design
    - Mobility, mobility, mobility - high power to weight ratio
    - System of systems approach - common platform with different types including gun tank, missile launcher, and uncrewed air defence wingman
    - Likely to have a larger gun - 130 mm / 140 mm and capacity to fire NLOS ATGMs
    - Uncrewed turret
    - Three-person crew located in the hull
    - Integral APS / SHORAD capability
    - Hybrid electric drive with 1,800 hp
    - Passive and Reactive protection
    - Front-mounted engine

    Less weight, more mobility, 3 men crew, autoloader...
    I don't know, seems more in line with traditional french tanks and doctrine than german ones...

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Deviantart-tier tank design

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like artillery than main battle tank

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Compact, low profile tanks with minimal crew and big, loooooong guns.

      Expect the lines between Tanks, IFVs and SPGs to become increasingly blurry, especially as smart/guided ammo becomes more common. Paired with integrated drones for spotting, armor might not ever come within line of sight of the enemy.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    STRV 2000 BROS WE ARE SO BACK

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    130/140mm seems kinda stupid

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna coom

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      please don't repeat the Armata mistakes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what mistakes have been made with Armata aside from Russia being incapable of actually producing it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          - technology that's basically only for show. there's videos of the guys tapping at nonfunctional touchscreens.
          - shitty obsolete sensors (aka shit tier awareness)
          - bad engine (an no, not just what fat schwein tall about on youtube)
          - kept the soviet style autoloader (fricking kek)

          also, like it or not MBTs are going to have to deal with drones one way or another. best to design that in from day 1. t14 has nothing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, but all those aside from the autoloader are a result of it being a parade piece they can't actually build.
            Also, afaik development started way back in the early 2000s when the only drones were fancy RC airplanes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, but all those aside from the autoloader are a result of it being a parade piece they can't actually build.
            Also, afaik development started way back in the early 2000s when the only drones were fancy RC airplanes.

            even the EMBT demonstrator already has anti-drone RWS, so I'm gonna assume that won't be forgotten with the actual MGCS. Also I doubt nonfunctional touchscreens and sensors will be a problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The question is, how will the french ruin it?

      Potential features:
      - Weight reduction to 50 tonnes - more compact design
      - Mobility, mobility, mobility - high power to weight ratio
      - System of systems approach - common platform with different types including gun tank, missile launcher, and uncrewed air defence wingman
      - Likely to have a larger gun - 130 mm / 140 mm and capacity to fire NLOS ATGMs
      - Uncrewed turret
      - Three-person crew located in the hull
      - Integral APS / SHORAD capability
      - Hybrid electric drive with 1,800 hp
      - Passive and Reactive protection
      - Front-mounted engine

      Less weight, more mobility, 3 men crew, autoloader...
      I don't know, seems more in line with traditional french tanks and doctrine than german ones...

      >missile launcher
      https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11/new-uses-new-propellants-mbda-germany-on-the-future-of-hypersonics/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >another soulless clone of FMBT
      Into the trash it goes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The question is, how will the french ruin it?

      Potential features:
      - Weight reduction to 50 tonnes - more compact design
      - Mobility, mobility, mobility - high power to weight ratio
      - System of systems approach - common platform with different types including gun tank, missile launcher, and uncrewed air defence wingman
      - Likely to have a larger gun - 130 mm / 140 mm and capacity to fire NLOS ATGMs
      - Uncrewed turret
      - Three-person crew located in the hull
      - Integral APS / SHORAD capability
      - Hybrid electric drive with 1,800 hp
      - Passive and Reactive protection
      - Front-mounted engine

      Less weight, more mobility, 3 men crew, autoloader...
      I don't know, seems more in line with traditional french tanks and doctrine than german ones...

      The NGAD of ground forces.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Avoid kill
    Sounds sensible

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The question is, how will the french ruin it?
    Dumb kraut, the design of this thing just like with many so called modern tanks, demonstrates the French were right from the beginning with the Leclerc.
    But I still fricking hope France leaves this shitshow anyway.

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