>mentions the Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee

>mentions the Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee
>mentions he played video games (likely War Thunder), and remembered where he should aim
>he therefore wasn't relying upon actual formal training, but his experience in a video game to detail how to disable a t-90m

Is this a first? Where video games are used as a source of a winning battle tactic?

The tactics of blinding the T-90, then aiming for a weak spot seem valid.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >He remembered everything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >everything was known by him

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gamers are the true super soldiers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/d9c3WMa.jpg

      >mentions the Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee
      >mentions he played video games (likely War Thunder), and remembered where he should aim
      >he therefore wasn't relying upon actual formal training, but his experience in a video game to detail how to disable a t-90m

      Is this a first? Where video games are used as a source of a winning battle tactic?

      The tactics of blinding the T-90, then aiming for a weak spot seem valid.

      WE. ARE. ...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      War gaming's been around for a while now, and training sims indistinguishable from Warthunder or Loader, Heat! and such.

      >Bloody clankas

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SUPER BATTLE DROID

      TAKE EM DOWN

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS

        (decades from now, when I'm blabbingly senile in a nursing home and unable to even recognize my own family, I will still be able to recite sound clips from video games effortlessly)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SUPER BATTLE DROID

      TAKE EM DOWN

      YOU'VE GOT A CLEAR SHOT! TANK OUT THAT TANK!

      ?si=GnWTBkxknV0UFph3&t=749

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        SUPER BATTLE DROID

        TAKE EM DOWN

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/8ywmAXZ.jpg

        Gamers are the true super soldiers.

        George Lucas never should have sold off LucasFilm to those soulless fricks at Disney because a bunch of neckbeards made fun of him.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/d9c3WMa.jpg

      >mentions the Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee
      >mentions he played video games (likely War Thunder), and remembered where he should aim
      >he therefore wasn't relying upon actual formal training, but his experience in a video game to detail how to disable a t-90m

      Is this a first? Where video games are used as a source of a winning battle tactic?

      The tactics of blinding the T-90, then aiming for a weak spot seem valid.

      https://i.imgur.com/PMfd5vG.jpg

      [...]

      WE. ARE. ...

      The gamers rose up...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      perfect edit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Feels good seeing my hasty edit fly free like a beautiful bird.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Videogames aren't much different from flight simulators and stuff.
    I don't get why people seem to be surprised.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      flight sims probably influenced some pilot in the last 20ish years

      I had assumed it was a mis-translation. They were on Bradley simulators long before they got the vehicles. The video game he refers to is likely the training simulator.

      those 'simulators' are the exact same as some 'video games'
      just with correct details instead of publicly known estimations and purpose built controls

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >flight sims probably influenced some pilot in the last 20ish years
        Did Skyking try a simulator first or just wing it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think he just winged it? The ground control team was doing their best to talk him down, but he was still wobbly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Skyking specifically mentioned he'd played some video games when asked if he knew how to fly the plane

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This
      Of course no simulation is perfect but it's common for video games to be used to either provide a basic introduction or to keep memory fresh once practical training is not available for whatever reason
      Famously, Gran Turismo 4 was used by professional racing drivers on occasions where they couldn't access the tracks to train normally, to build familiarity with the tracks ahead of a race. This doesn't mean a Gran Turismo player can jump into a race car and be competitive, but it does mean a real race car driver can gain some value from training in the game because they already have the practical skills the game doesn't include in muscle memory. The same is probably true for tankers - WT can't teach you to drive a tank, but it can provide information that someone who CAN drive a tank can later apply to that task.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This doesn't mean a Gran Turismo player can jump into a race car and be competitive
        Anon, honey, they JUST made a movie about that based off a real driver.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Skyking

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      flight sims probably influenced some pilot in the last 20ish years
      [...]
      those 'simulators' are the exact same as some 'video games'
      just with correct details instead of publicly known estimations and purpose built controls

      For me, the biggest thing flight sims helped out with prior to my training for my license was messing with the radio/gps unit. The one in the Skyhawk I flew was precisely the same unit as the one in XPlane. It helped me a ton when it came to working it for setting frequencies or the GPS destination.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been a drone operator in Ukraine and vidya background definitely helped. Not as much as professional military training of course, but better than nothing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Story time?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I had assumed it was a mis-translation. They were on Bradley simulators long before they got the vehicles. The video game he refers to is likely the training simulator.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That would be an incredibly strange mistranslation considering videogame and simulator/simulation are nothing alike in pretty much every language, since one word is literally thousands of years younger than the other.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He actually used the Ukrainian word for videogame, not simulator. He was very specific.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think bradley sims teach you how to fight T90s since theoretically you should indeed fricking run

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    based warthunder. But even a braindead bot could realize that you need to shoot optics and side armor on a tank.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      from the moment I saw the video in question, I've wondered if the detonation of a tank's turret roof ERA is enough to kill its own optics

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's more the idea that you can disable a tank with a vastly inferior vehicle by spamming cannon rounds so they can't react and fight back

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I think it's more the idea that you can disable a tank with a vastly inferior vehicle by spamming cannon rounds so they can't react and fight back
        exactly

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    VR trained soldiers when?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not really worth it tbh.
      I worked on medium fidelity military sims, you need the physical controls to have muscle memory, VR doesn't give you that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it eventually will thats why he asked when

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >VR trained soldiers
      >SPIT ON THE TANK, BRUDDAH, IT DOESN'T KNOW DE WAY

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As a German i humbly request that we are nuked

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's the French plan if the russians ever make it across Poland. Sadly they can't even make it to the next STRATEGICALLY VITALLY IMPORTANT village (pre-war population: 50) in Ukraine.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's the French plan
        Basé si vrai.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      all that t-90 gunner had to do was not miss and both of those bradleys would be smoked

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I want to see a bradley getting vaporized by SABOT

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just dont get hit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Easier said than done. Though in a proper army, that MBT would be backed up by its own IFV, who would deploy their infantry, and any number of them would be hitting the Bradleys with ATGM.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >nah, I'd hit
        Out-fricking-skilled.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >should have rolled

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Skill issue.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >can't see shit
        >just hit two bradleys

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you come at the king, etc

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          kek, I can imagine this dumb thirdies utter seethe at the current happening.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > all he had to do is to win the fight

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >all that t-90 gunner had to do was not to lose

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >all that t-90 gunner had to do was be a functioning human being

        yea nah

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        skill issue

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's why "hit the optic" is the first response any Bradley crew has to seeing an MBT.
        If that fails, it's "I wonder how fast reverse gear is".

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"hit the optic"
          and
          > "reverse gear"
          are not mutually exclusive responses. Bradleys almost never shoot while standing still, they are designed from the ground up to be in chaotic, unpredictable motion while laying down fire. You should probably watch one or two Bradley suppressive fire videos and try to learn something.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. my grandmother has wheels

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can't just hold down a button to repair your gun and optics IRL

        if a bradley disables your main gun on first contact you're just gonna have to tank the hits.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So it's not the skill of the Bradley but the poor training of the Russians.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ten percent luck, twenty percent skill

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One hundred percent concentrated power of will

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            70 percent flair

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No because that will make the anime and Battletech community quite sad. BE THE GERMAN JAPANESE THINK YOU ARE!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nuking Germany wouldn't make the Battletech community sad, not since the Katherine Incident

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      du dummer Spast. Einem überlegenen Gegner auszuweichen ist komplett angemessen. Renn halt in den Selbtmord wenn es dich gut fühlen lässt, so gewinnt man sicher den Krieg.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for proving my point my stereotypical asperger german on the internet

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bring dich um

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you want to be nuked you're going to have to unfrick your energy policy and build your own.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day, falseflagging Black person.
      IFVs should avoid combat with MBTs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Enhance your calm, citizen

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One can fire and flee at the same time, providing you have a good, stabilized gun. Hitting a tank is going to shake the crew. Even if you're not going to penetrate.
    A tank won't know what's firing on it and may not know where. Which causes hasty reactions.
    In the specific video, the range was so close that trying to charge towards the tank was the correct move because the situation had become do or die. Had the Bradley turned and ran, even while firing, they may just caught a shell through the rear.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >mentions the Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee
    You both are morons
    they were trained by Americans on German training grounds
    why would you even think a Nation like Germany who has never operated a Bradley would be training them on it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      maybe they got some training on the marder as well, so they can operate both. maybe it was like school: from 8am to 9am the germans teach. from 9 to 11 its the americans and in the afternoon the brits share their wisdoms.

      ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair most westerners who took at face value sovietshit would consider an IFV shouldn't be capable to take on a MBT in a regular situation, but then again, being a post-soviet state soldier means you probably know how inflated the T series capabilities were.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    can't wait to use my minecraft skills in this war

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Germans told them to flee
    Why are Germans so meek?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The ones who didn't flee mostly died.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    game logic dictates generic weak spots
    such as
    >commanders cupola
    >gunners optic / port side of Mantlet
    >drivers vision port / hatch
    >hull gunners vision port
    >hull side in front of the drive wheel / idler
    >hull side above the road wheels
    >the side of the engine deck cover
    >muzzle crown of the gun

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i hope all the r6 i played kicks in when it needs to

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Holding a devious angle would probably work against 99.9% of mass shooter situations

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I have generally wondered if Pre firing corners in American standard buildings would work. Like you can't be anywhere with civilians, or allies out of position, but man 90% of American homes and apartment buildings are made of basically air.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      1000% chance someone in this war died because they tried to throw a csgo grenade and it bounced off the wall into their face

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I clenched my sphincter watching that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          oh shi-

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is going to be the first conflict in history where grandpa has video evidence to backup his ridiculous war story.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can see the NATO training in effect, single most NA nade I've seen in years followed by the dumbest hail mary plan actually pulling through.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >NA nade
            >NA trainers are imparting NA aim on based Ukies who otherwise would embrace their slavshitter skills to win like their CS 1.2 player forefathers

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kek

          This is going to be the first conflict in history where grandpa has video evidence to backup his ridiculous war story.

          yup he probably wouldn't even need to tell. just spam his grandsons VR chat

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reminds me of that 97 year old Korean war vet we have at our Legion who threw back a grenade into an enemy bunker. We learned from his CO (still kicking at 98) that it was his own grenade he threw back at the bunker he was aiming at. The LCpl got the Military Medal for it. He of course never mentions that it was his own grenade...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God, what a save.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Seen it in the wind breaks with the dead trees, only dumb luck didn't potato it into their trench, kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What useful skill do i get for playing hundreds of hours of Dark Souls and Elden Ring?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We haven't seen anyone trying to dodge roll away from a FPV drone yet, maybe it works.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          there was that guy who perfect parried a drone grenade by kicking it away before it hit the ground, maybe he played sekiro

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stop being a weeb and play something that at least tries to be realistic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nothing, until raytheon unweils their iFrame burst generator that is activated by doing a gymnastic roll with a running start

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vanquish suits when?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When DARPA get over their robotics phase and finally make a damn ARS suit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How to get a maiden and that combat-rolling doesn't work if you're fat.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      please give me the source

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I sincerely hope that guy means vanilla games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he's right, after long enough you become a fricking surgeon

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bullshit
    In War Thunder you can't damage Russian tanks

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fortune favors the bold Anon. Sometimes, acting with aggression and celerity wins the day.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >plays WarThunder
    >starts bumrushing MBTs with an IFV because it works in game
    Oh god. I've just realised how many habits the military is going to have to train out of zoomers because of vidya.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >historical meta is heavily armored tanks because you can't train a boomer to rush and circle the enemy
      >video games train an entire generation of morons to just suicidally rush with their glass cannon light vehicles
      >it works because there's no physical reason why it shouldn't

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Circle strafing works in Mechwarrior 2.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In every game where you have to balance speed armor and firepower, the optimal way to play is to ditch the armor and git gud until you just never get hit. It all makes sense now, this is where war is headed

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gaming was a psyop to train a whole generation of incredibly proficient drone and vehicle operators
    It all makes sense now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kojimbo I kneel...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Never forget

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This guy was clearly the most competent leader Russia had and they just whacked him, it’s insane

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Tsar Pavel, Alexander II, Stolypin.
            Anybody who tries to save Russia from Russia will be murdered by Russia.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russian state didn't murder Piotr Stolypin directly, they just... took away everything in the way of the Bolsheviks trying to kill him.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Budanov said he might not be dead
          I want to believe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/U8Ywjgc.jpg

      Kojimbo I kneel...

      War…has changed…

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      amogus
      sus

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/U8Ywjgc.jpg

      Kojimbo I kneel...

      Sundowner did nothing wrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      %3D%3D

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He wasn't referring to War Thunder.

    • 1 month ago
      Yukari

      why did you have to remind me

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        holy shit talk about a blast from the past. I think I was in 4th grade when this came out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee
    From
    >A KING TIGER, RUUUUUUN
    to
    >A T-90 RUUUUUN

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair it makes sense if you expect a somewhat competent enemy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >allied intelligence
      Da there are no Schwere Panzerabteilung in the area
      >II SS Panzer Corps
      yes nothing to see here

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're operating an IFV without tank support, it's generally good practice not to engage an enemy MBT. The bradley crews were fortunate that their sustained fire crippled the T-90s optics and external equipment, but it could have very possibly gotten them killed had it not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They did flee. The first fired until it ran out of ammo then dipped while the second one followed suit and continued buttoning the tank. That they ended up disabling it anyway doesn't mean they weren't actively trying to run

      If all they were doing was fricking up optics and externals does that mean something like a 14.5mm could have worked?

      >Bradley somehow justifies not only the twin Nork 14.5 turret but also upgrading them to gattling guns

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not unless you can make 14.5mm HEI-T

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >14.5mm HEI-T
          Actually that is a thing although most is API-T, almost all common 14.5mm is impact-incendiary

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >something like a 14.5mm could have worked?
        Nah. Watching that 25mm autocannon massacre a target is entirely worth it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The armor did get penetrated by a minority of the rounds, you can see the holes in the aftermath picture.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sure you can show the holes Bradley did to the T-90 and you aren't just lying

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here's the imagine. Nobody fricking posts this though they should in these fricking threads.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They did flee. The first fired until it ran out of ammo then dipped while the second one followed suit and continued buttoning the tank. That they ended up disabling it anyway doesn't mean they weren't actively trying to run

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >this a first? Where video games are used as a source of a winning battle tactic?
    No, close combat was used to teach squad tactics a decade ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Combat:_Marines

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/d9c3WMa.jpg

      >mentions the Germans told them if they came across a MBT they should flee
      >mentions he played video games (likely War Thunder), and remembered where he should aim
      >he therefore wasn't relying upon actual formal training, but his experience in a video game to detail how to disable a t-90m

      Is this a first? Where video games are used as a source of a winning battle tactic?

      The tactics of blinding the T-90, then aiming for a weak spot seem valid.

      >Is this a first? Where video games are used as a source of a winning battle tactic?

      no
      https://2ndbn5thmar.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/CCMWorkbookMcBreen2002.pdf
      "I am an infantry major with fourteen years commissioned service, seven years with 5th Marines,
      three years in schools, and three years as an infantry training officer with the Marine Corps
      Warfighting Lab. I have deployed overseas with 2nd Battalion, 5th Marines four times. I have
      commanded two infantry platoons and one rifle company. I have served as a battalion operations
      officer and regimental operations officer. I am a student of tactics. I have taught NCOs and
      officers infantry tactics. I have participated and led tactical decision training.
      None of these activities or learning experiences can match the effective and focused tactical
      learning that I have experienced through repetitive fighting of the small unit scenarios in “Close
      Combat.”

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well I never served in the military so I like to think hours of playing Close Combat III: The Russian Front has turned me into an effective knower of small unit tactics.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >WHAt DO YOU MEAN ENEMY TANKS CAN MOVE IRL?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well, that explains why I'm so bad at The Longest Day. It's actually got thought put into it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That was my intelligence officer father's favourite game when I was a kid. I miss him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >made specifically for military training purposes

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Video games will be played, and then everything will be remembered

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Bradley disabled the t-90 and the drone followed the bugged out crew and supposedly killed them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BLUE BOARD!!!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The funniest part is, everything probably seemed fine until the pen.
      The atmosphere no doubt went from
      >Everything is fine
      >Just keep pushing them
      >Armor stronk
      To
      >Why is there hole in tonk
      >Why is ammo glowing
      >Why is it so warm in here
      >AY BLYAT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bradley shooting explosive rounds
      homosexuals actually think it penetrated the turret
      you can see the tank is still in one piece after the "explosion"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It did pen. Nobody claimed it actually blew up the tank, bud. Just won the engagement

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this has to be a troll post. do you think kinetic rounds don't produce flash and sparks upon melting the target armor during penetration?
        and that's not an explosion. it's the turret-mounted smoke canister going off, probably because it was perforated by armor spalling.
        qrd: you don't understand what you're seeing and henceforth shall be known as a homosexual (by me)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nobody has ever said that the smoke launchers igniting was the tank exploding lmao.
        the worst i have seen was people claiming that was the ERA going off.
        I didnt follow this thing enough to know if there was a penetration or not, but i can understand why the crew bailed out, not a whole lot you can do when your optics are fricked and your reverse speed is slower than my shitbox of a car

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Firing HEI rounds at a MBT

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >russian wunderwaffen are good, it's just russians that suck
    weird cope but ok

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah that’s my point it was disabled. The Bradley used its chain gun to damage the optics of the t-90 disabling it. The t-90 veered into a tree with its turret spinning uncontrollably. It is important to note that the turret wasn’t spinning uncontrollably before the Bradley disabled it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fricking tank got holes in it I just posted the picture.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Massive cope, the Bradley's mission killed the tank, the drone killed killed it.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Did you inspect the tank or something? I simply don’t believe your word

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Were they going to Un bail? Because the Bradley's would probably stop that. And tanks don't crash into trees with uncontrollable turrets if everything is fine.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >and then they stop the turret and drive normally for a bit

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Bradley's didn't fire their tows because they were probably within the minimum arming distance, and were also trying to leave the area. Their intent was not to fight the t-90 but to give it enough to think about while they got the frick out

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Virtual Battle Simulator and other sims have been used in formal training for decades, while Warthunder is far from a sim it still gets the basics of "front strong, sides weak" right.

    Stuff like this
    https://www.mvrsimulation.com/casestudies/cubic_missionfunctions.html
    Is great because it can be realistic enough for training while saving a fortune on actual flight time.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why is the turret repeatedly spinning afterwards then? The tank was clearly disabled from this and unable to continue fighting.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >mission kills don't count because they just don't ok

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It caused the turret to spin wildly and destroyed or damaged all the sensors. That's certainly at least a scratch. You can't explain away what was clearly a successful engagement, despite it being extremely unlikely

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    War as a video game — what better way to raise the ultimate soldier?

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >T-90 is so shit because a Bradley could damage its optics
    >homosexuals ignore the same would happen to an Abrams

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's so shit because turret rig was damaged. Nobody cares about optics, it get damaged by small arms and frags all the time

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's shit because there's no backup to the main sights.
      Once you lose those, you're blind, and basically have to open the hatch and fire while looking outside the tank.
      The M1 has a backup sight, meaning that if you knock out the primary sight, you now have to deal with a very angry M1 crew that can still very much target and kill you.
      The most comical part is that, even though the T90 HAS a backup sight, but it's basically right next to the main one, meaning if you hit one with a direct hit, you've probably damaged the other.
      This is assuming it's one of the later models that even has one however.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The M1 has a backup sight
        and the backup sight is somehow immune to getting fire at

        I have more important question: why didn't they kill the crew when they abandooned?

        who said they didn't off camera?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >who said they didn't off camera?
          Why would they do that off camera?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would they do that off camera?
            why would they cut off shooting unarmed men?

            https://i.imgur.com/czajDW2.jpg

            [...]
            >there was no penetration idiot
            >it was smokes
            Yeah my favorite part of any smoke deployment system is the part where it glows bright orage to white hot for seconds before it explodes providing minimal smoke coverage in a virtually useless straight line..

            watch the full video not cut down propaganda crap

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Isn't shooting retreating unarmed tanks crews considered as war crime? Not to mention that tank crew members have pistols.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, shooting a retreating enemy that is not surrendering is not a war crime.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A tank is an arm and they were simply maneuvering in the wrong direction

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The backup sight is nestled low and recessed deep into the mantlet. Look at an Abrams turret head-on and find it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The backup sight is somehow immune
          I mean nothing's impossible, but it's an optical sight embedded deep in the mantlet. If it got hit, it's because something penetrating the turret mantlet

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have more important question: why didn't they kill the crew when they abandooned?

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    no they didnt

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no they didnt
      the jannie warning? they literally did for "trolling" for a comment pointing out it was the smoke grenades exploding

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        probably because that's such a fricking stupid thing to say they assumed it was trolling

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    These are smokes, and in the extended version you can see the crew abandoned that tank as well.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I played a lot of Post Scritpum and Squad, I'm ready to fight.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >there was no penetration idiot
    >it was smokes
    Yeah my favorite part of any smoke deployment system is the part where it glows bright orage to white hot for seconds before it explodes providing minimal smoke coverage in a virtually useless straight line..

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It looked like the smoke grenades cooked off, or at least burned. The crew may have tried to launch them but being damaged they did nothing, or they just cooked off themselves

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here's redeffect's analysis of the fight so you don't have to spread false propaganda

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The list of people who I am less inclined to listen to than lazerpig - fat moron that he is- is a short one, but red effect is on it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he does a good analysis of these videos especially pointing out propaganda stuff

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Shooting anyone that is retreating is a war crime
    Do you have a citation from Geneva convention? As far as I concerned it's not.
    You're probably mixing it with surrendered units.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It cuts off right after because the tank stops and nothing else happens. That's shortly before the crew bailed

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No it's not. A retreating enemy that is not surrendering is still a lawful combatent

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the bradley was badly damaged just saw a vid of it. Luckily the crew made it out fine rip chadley

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      may we see it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it was on combatfootage but was deleted because there was no combat footage. But basically it was the dude from OP explaining what happened. The bradley seemed badly burnt but still in one piece.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it was on combatfootage but was deleted

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/3zhnxiw.jpg

        >it was on combatfootage but was deleted

        the bradley was badly damaged just saw a vid of it. Luckily the crew made it out fine rip chadley

        https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60741102/#60741102

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          video

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nothing in that thread says the bradly is significantly damaged. just looks like an outer layer of add on armor got peppered with 12mm, which the main hull is impervious to.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Link to the video/interview?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here comes the TOW-2B, woooosh...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why are they censoring the sides? is it painted full of nazi symbols?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God I hope so

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just the camo anon. Ukie official name is "Pixel" for a reason. Don't worry about it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But does "working hard" like a slave really free you?
            that's the stupid question !

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Open up for the tandem EFPs!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pop goes the T-90 (T-72B++++++++) turret~

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously anon there was a thread on this and you could have typed in "interview" in search. Have fun being spoon fed all 4 webms again..

      [...]

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >another video from same thread
    all of the holes are clearly in add on spaced armor, didn't even pen the side skirt layer.
    the Bradley's turret has the same armor as the rest of the hull, you're looking at another section of spaced armor/storage.
    it's covered in mud and debris, if it was on fire it would be blatantly obvious.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    side completely burned off
    what? Are we looking a the same video?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he forgot to take off his russia winning goggles. please understand.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's burned off you moron did you even look at the video?

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >peremoga
    Another vatnik litmus test, along with the use of the word hohol.
    Supporters of Ukraine (which is most neurotypical people) do not actually know what these words mean.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukies use this word as well but just as part of the standard daily lexicon. Russians use it sarcastically, in a bitterly ironic sorta way. They also do the same with the "Freedom." Fricking slaves.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >video games are better teachers than NATO officials
    No surprise here

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a reason Germany doesn't have any top tier e-sports teams.

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are tanks obsolete yet?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Marin Corps got rid of them for a reason. Drones ftw

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not really surprising when tons of military leaks have been released due to the game itself existing and anxiety ridden people like us putting everything on the line to get the actual data on whatever tech they want to be more realistic

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It seems like Bradley is spotting enemy vehicles first pretty consistently from the few videos I've seen in comparison to Soviet designs in ukr service

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My dad is old and is Vietnam Vet. Basically said doctrine that everyone used to win/survive, throw down as much firepower as you can, as quickly as you can. Basically mag dump down range.

    And that's basically how you won fire fight and came home.

    I can't imagine it is any different in armored warfare and you bump into enemy and they bump into you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By all rights, the two Bradleys should be fricked.

      >MBT should have its own IFV in support laying suppressive fire
      >dismounted infantry will flank the Bradleys, and hit them with ATGM
      >T-90m actually missed twice

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