>the US government is now saying there's a 10% chance of Lake Powell draining to the minimum power pool next year and a 30% chance of it happening in the next 2 years
>there's a 23% chance of Lake Mead draining to 1000 feet in the next 2 years and a 7% chance of it hitting the minimum power pool in the next 4 years
>if the lakes hit their minimum power pools, the turbines at the Hoover Dam and Glen Canyon Dam will need to shut off
>the Interior Department could start mandating significant cuts to water consumption in 7 states
article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/12/01/drought-colorado-river-lake-powell/
actual report:
https://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/riverops/crss-5year-projections.html
Uh guys? What are the chances this could get really bad? Should I be getting my buddies together and prepping for battles with Mormon tribes over water?
>Californians larp as DUNC freemen replacing spice with fentanyl and the sand worms for homeless
>He who controls the phent, controls the universe
I’ve been going up and down the Colorado River for 30+ years, and you’d have to be moronic to not see that this was coming, especially with the reduced rain fall during that time.
I find it funny that all of water consumption in US south west is planned based on abnormally high rainfall, the most wet period of time in last millennia at minimum. Just water your lawns. Your HOA needs you.
>>if the lakes hit their minimum power pools, the turbines at the Hoover Dam and Glen Canyon Dam will need to shut off
Between this and the attack that just happened a couple hours ago in North Carolina, how should you be prepping for going without power?
What happen in NC?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/04/us/power-outages-north-carolina.html
People freaked out about an 18+ drag show and shot up 3 power substations, taking out power for an entire county. News articles are sugar coating the frick out of it right now saying it might just be "coordinated vandalism", that just happened to occur while a drag show that was being protested and had a variety of threats to attack it called in was in progress.
>all of the agitprop we're doing on social media is paying off
Feels good, but can't we just say that the shooting was fake and that the substations were intentionally shut down by ~~*them*~~ in order to take away our guns?
Anyone involved or supporting this should be made an example of and given death by one of a variety of methods of medieval torture.
Supporting what? It never happened, so there was no crime and nothing to be mad about.
schizo
This has false flag written all over it. If rednecks wanted to threaten a drag show they'd show up out front with fricking axe handles.
Armed gays have started patrolling these shows now so they've moved on to softer targets
>Armed gays
Kek, what a joke, they don’t have any training and they would easily lose in a fire fight
Sometimes all you need is a fighting spirit.
If the cops in Uvalde had the moral courage of those homosexuals at Club Q, there would be a lot fewer dead children in Texas.
>If the cops in Uvalde had the moral courage of those homosexuals at Club Q
The guy who stopped the shooter was a father who went there with his family because his gay hag daughter thought it would be fun to drag her parents and her boyfriend to a drag show. Guarantee if they hadn't been there it would have been another Pulse.
the cops at uvalde were given orders to stand down. it's the only thing that makes sense
>implying anyone willing to throw their life away trying to storm a drag show is going to be much better
>implying they'd be able to get together any more than a single fire team worth of people willing to participate in that brazen of an attack at the absolute most
>implying the armed gays wouldn't have a massive advantage due to their numbers (there are documented instances of 10 or more showing up with guns) and that they're defending the position rather than trying to assault it
>armed gays
Take that antifa!
fricking based
they probably understand that fricking up infrastructure is the easiest way to make an impact
>t. power transformer
https://www.thepilot.com/news/county-still-dark-after-substation-attacks/article_b3b19780-7370-11ed-865d-c78d0de5d921.html
>they're now saying it could take until Thursday to have everything up and running again
Fugg. Considering all the recent attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure by Russia as well, I hope that prepping for more immediate grid down SHTF scenarios that don't involve total societal collapse starts getting more discussion.
Ukrainains and these people still have the possibility of the lights coming back on, that's why they aren't going insane. Ukrainians are getting more pissed off at their government, though
>that's why they aren't going insane.
Things aren't going insane because working together as a society is always a superior option vs loner/small group fantasy bullshit.
“Working together” as a society is precisely the cause of these issues. In a drought water demand far exceeds water supply. When demand exceeds supply, prices should rise to balance the two (meanwhile, high prices incentivize schemes like desalinization for profit). Instead, because prices are controlled by government, the problem is simply ignored. The “wise” progressive (democrat or culturally-right socialist) proposes rationing because the concept of supply and demand in decentralized markets is completely alien to their ideologies.
You're assuming a lot here. You assume that the free market provides a viable solution that is implemented easily within a relevant timeframe. Unfortunately, people can't last longer than 3-4 days without water. Manufacturing a single desalination plant takes several months and output is minimal in comparison to the scale of demand in a drought.
Your simple solution to a very complex problem is short sighted. Prices for an essential, life critical good should not and would not be dictated by a free market anyways. It's fine to have regulatory measures shape the free market.
> The "wise" progressive (democrat of culturally-right socialist)...
From your boomerposting style, I guess your comment was just an outlet for your dumb American political views.
>Oh no if we stop people from using water it might affect business!
>Entire economy shuts down
>"Well, looks like the next guys problem in office, not mine!"
It's not just a liberal issue, a lot of conservative states do the same thing.
>what are the chances this could get really bad?
Nothing ever habbens an nothing ever will
pic related
i ain't worried at all. california is so rich and powerful, the governors of states with water will line up to kiss our butts for the privilege of selling us your water, even as their own constituents die of thirst.
they will even offer to pay for pipeline construction out of your state tax dollars just to win the contract and earn our business.
money ALWAYS wins. feels good to be on top of the food chain 🙂
>posted from a shoebox apartment you spend 58% of your monthly income on
>be twice as productive
>spend four times as much to stay alive
So this is the power of GDP
>states with water
Unfortunately are all very far down hill from California. To get water from Lake Pepin to California, in the quantities required to make up the shortfall, would require 4000MW of pumping. It's simply not feasible. Note that even if they decide to continue to pipe Colorado river water to California, after the loss of Glen Canyon and Hoover as power stations, you're going to have to replace 60% of their power generation to run the pumps, because that's where lots of it goes.
What if you built another great pyramid water pump
https://sentinelkennels.com/Research_Article_V41.html
>/k/ discovers global warming is real
There are going to be a lot of dehydrated spics.
This is the reason the US keeps getting involved in shit. Our infrastructure is worn down while crops and water keep getting fricked, they need something to distract us from it
>Mormons
Tell them to save me a .45
>Can't let god do all the work
All this talk about global warming, water crisis, no one is doing what Kuwait has done with its Water Desalination plants. One plant can produce 100,000 cubic meters of water a day.
>implying the US can undertake massive infrastructure projects when we can't even maintain the shit we have
We can, people need to not be homosexuals about it and backstab and sabotage people and plans.
>we can, we just have to get rid of all the reasons we can't
Every construction company tries to frick you over by taking the most amount of money for the longest period of work they can manage without pissing you off. It can't be done, and it won't. Especially on the west coast of all fricking places, with all their regulation bullshit and high taxes
Again, people need to stop being homosexuals. We already have around 200 smaller plants in the U.S. that deliever water hundreds of miles away.
>We already have around 200 smaller plants in the U.S. that deliever water hundreds of miles away.
>the quantities required to make up the shortfall, would require 4000MW of pumping. It's simply not feasible
Who do I believe?
We aren't talking about small amounts of water short distances though. You're talking about going to the Mississippi Basin, but if you are getting appreciable amounts of water out of the Mississippi Basin, the highest elevation you could ever start at would be Lake Pepin in Minnesota.
Existing systems all have net elevation decrease from inlet to outlet, and so even the ones that need pumps can reclaim some of the energy spent pumping with turbines at the outlet end. The water from Lake Mead flows from 1230 feet elevation to the west suburbs of Los Angeles at ~860 feet elevation. But Lake Pepin is at 670 feet elevation, and the electricity spent pumping cannot be reclaimed at 150% efficiency in the same way electricity spent pumping from Lake Mead is.
Lake Mead is also 230 miles from LA as the crow flies (the water pipes are a bit longer), Lake Pepin is 1550 miles from LA, so the losses are even larger magnitude.
Water infrastructure has to be designed and implemented with careful consideration for geography, and Californians who think that they could "do those flyover bastards a favor" by "drinking their flood water" are completely ignorant of the reality.
>Westoids suffering
Sky is fricking blue
How about the deport all the illegals and start enforcing our borders? Pretty sure part of the problem is we have x amount of shit for y amount of people, but we have significantly more than y amount of people.
Frick off moron. The biggest users are agricultural. Personal water consumption by people who usually don't even own homes is basically nothing in comparison.
Whether the biggest consumers of water are agricultural or industrial varies from year to year and also depending on whether you count golf courses as agricultural. But you're missing the point. It doesn't matter if the water is getting used by a residential user. The Economy of California is dependent on an under-caste of undocumented workers who are not paid a fair wage and who are not given the benefits an American would be entitled to. If you shut off the slave labor spigot, California's agricultural and manufacturing economy will collapse and the water demand will crater.
Also all the rich people will move out of their ridiculous houses when they can't hire illegals to keep them cleaned and maintained.
>we just need to massively cripple the US economy to reduce water consumption
Frick off moron.
If crippling the economy is what it takes for the illegals to go home then so be it.
California has adequate water for themselves, they just let it run out into the fricking ocean because some moron tree hugger decided that letting the water flow year round to keep some dumb ass guppy alive is better than using the Californian canal system the way it was designed to be used.
The U.S. survived without truckloads of illegals in the past, we can do so again. Just learn to clean your own fricking house you lazy shit.
>The U.S. survived without truckloads of illegals in the past
It was slave labour in the distant past, immigrant labour in the past, and illegal and outsourced labour today. Ironically Americans are too lazy to do anything besides dig their own graves.
Are you a Democrat? Because then your opposition makes sense. Your kind has never reacted well to being told they need to let their brown people go, and start treating them like people.
What the USA needs is TRUE slavery like in Qatar or Saudi Arabia. win-win situation for all Americans.
We used to have that, kind of fought a civil war with abolishment of said practice being one of the reasons it kicked off. Funny, for all the shitting on us for being backwards that the euros do, we gave up our slaves way quicker than they did. Only took us what, just over a century from the founding of the country?
REJECT MODERN INSTITVTIONS OF SLAVERY
RETVRN TO TRADITIONAL ONES
I'd rather not have gay buttsex though. Besides, if Rome is so great, why is it dead?
Oh, y'know, the usual, corruption, excess immigration, endless wars in barbarian shitholes. Nihil sub sōle novum.
Plus, in Rome, it's not gay if you say, "non idem". And you're the one on top.
Because they figured put plumbing before they figured out lead poisoning
unironically because of israelites like you. hadrian did nothing wrong, ivdea delenda est
i like his shoes
And then California goes back to being red inside of a year. What a glorious sight that would be.
Planned war economy. It worked in ww2.
The vast majority of water usage is commercial agriculture, mainly beef, dairy, and nuts (mostly almonds).
This shit could easily be solved if people simply cut back on their consumption of these food types.
Either that, or fricking tax the TRUE cost of water on these farmers/corporate farms.
They can unironically divert the missippi. They were planning to in the 40's, built a good portion of the way there. 10% of the flow would be enough to top the hoover.
The only thing that would suffer is the Louisiana marshlands. It would take the western seaboard being without power to force the feds to do it though.
>They can unironically divert the missippi.
>through the Rocky Mountains
How the frick do you think the Colorado river works anon? Do you even know where it starts?
>How the frick do you think the Colorado river works anon?
It certainly doesn't flow up hill, I can tell you that.
white man doesn't know how to manage land, spends three hundred years running the midwest into the ground, doesn't understand why water go away
Communists, my friend. Non communist white people can run economies and shit just fine. If we had just listened to McCarthy we wouldn't be in this mess.
Native americans beg government for new pristine forest, current reservation bad, get granted pristine old growth forest irreplaceable in several lifetimes, sell logging rights and turn it to garbage in a decade.
Beg for traditional hunting rights, net most of the salmon run and collapse fishery.
Beg for whaling rights, tradition of people, then use speedboats and 50 cal to shoot whale full of holes until it sinks, wasting the entire creature.
Dont start with that white man crap.
I've got a fix for this: think MacArthur's nuclear plan for Korea but applied to California
Good.