MBDA developing an hypersonic interceptor

>1:1 Mockup of in-development MBDA AQUILA, European Air Defence missile with hypersonic and endo-atmospheric capability. MBDA will develop the AQUILA concept for the EU Defense Fund, supported by the Hypersonic Defense Interceptor project, aimed to develop a European hypersonic defense system.

Looks like it will have 3 stages, with a contact (?) warhead for the final approach.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They also demonstrated some kind of swarming smart missile called Orchestrike, no idea if they are getting any EU funds for that though. This would be combined with sacrificial remote carriers and other drones/loitering munitions to breach enemy air defenses more effectively.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >collaborative functions and pack tactics "developed" by MBDA internally
      aka we put the Brimstone programming on it

      MBDA needs to hire better promotional material creators, I mean frick Raytheon's SM-3 promo from a decade back is so much better https://youtu.be/ae5VmVwfWmk
      They get bonus points from using actual sounds from testing their KKV in the promo too.

      Anyways, not dumping the third stage is an interesting design choice.

      >not dumping the third stage is an interesting design choice
      for last second manoeuvres perhaps?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You always want less dry mass in your terminal stage when you're in space so that seemingly unitary third stage is not really the norm, but looking at it again I think it's meant to provide continuous thrust up to impact since it's endoatmospheric when it goes terminal compared to your usual ABM stuff which is typically exoatmospheric. Dumps the earlier stages to climb while it retains that last stage for thrust and mass to improve glide range.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          what I figure is that hypersonics are now so fricking fast and manoeuvrable that interceptors just can't afford not to have powered flight all the way to impact

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      MBDA needs to hire better promotional material creators, I mean frick Raytheon's SM-3 promo from a decade back is so much better https://youtu.be/ae5VmVwfWmk
      They get bonus points from using actual sounds from testing their KKV in the promo too.

      Anyways, not dumping the third stage is an interesting design choice.

      *US upgrades patriot*
      *mogs MBDA hypersonic intercepter*

      >collaborative functions and pack tactics "developed" by MBDA internally
      aka we put the Brimstone programming on it

      [...]
      >not dumping the third stage is an interesting design choice
      for last second manoeuvres perhaps?

      Another interesting aspect of the promo is the trajectory, seems to have a small loft to take full advantage of the fuel in the booster stages but then it drops down to be ~coaltitude with the HGV, presumably because you don't know when it's going to dive so better that you are co-altitude and waste some energy than it diving away from you.

      Too late, the patriot already does it.

      Too little too late, Diehl won the bid for EU meme sonic interceptor project already

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Translation? The Aquila seems to be a DE-FR-IT-NL project, maybe they are developing two solutions.

        https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-07/Factsheet_EDF21_EU%20HYDEF.pdf

        It seems they are both competing for this contract then maybe.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Aquila is an Mbda frog project exclusively iirc

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Aquila is an Mbda frog
            Why the Italian name then?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hyperschallwaffen
        Should've used the english name.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    MBDA needs to hire better promotional material creators, I mean frick Raytheon's SM-3 promo from a decade back is so much better https://youtu.be/ae5VmVwfWmk
    They get bonus points from using actual sounds from testing their KKV in the promo too.

    Anyways, not dumping the third stage is an interesting design choice.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Airbus ones are good.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    *US upgrades patriot*
    *mogs MBDA hypersonic intercepter*

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >an

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ayypersonic.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another interesting aspect of the promo is the trajectory, seems to have a small loft to take full advantage of the fuel in the booster stages but then it drops down to be ~coaltitude with the HGV, presumably because you don't know when it's going to dive so better that you are co-altitude and waste some energy than it diving away from you.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That isn’t interesting at all

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well you're not interesting at all either 🙁

        well I don't get it, eli5 please?

        Most efficient trajectory would be an arcing path, you spend more time in thinner air and you get back a good chunk of the energy you spend getting up there while falling down towards the target, this is used in many modern A2A missiles etc. to extend range and increase the final velocity (because it helps make the intercept easier). They chose instead to go straight through the atmosphere at the target because if the target starts diving you have to chase after it instead of going head on, which makes the intercept more difficult.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          but what does
          >drops down to be ~coaltitude with the HGV
          mean?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            It means it flies at the same level as the target rather than arc above it.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              right. I thought it was the opposite, because
              >drops down

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      well I don't get it, eli5 please?

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too late, the patriot already does it.

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