Maybe a simple question, but where are you supposed to install a vise on a bench? I have heard that a corner is fine and I have heard it is not for structural reasons. I just got a wilton 4 inch swivel base at a garage sale for $15 and it is in good shape. Also what do I lube it with?
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My current workbench is made of laminated 3/4" particle board. I don't think it would hold up very well if I simply bolted a vice to it, so what I did was I put a sheet of half inch plywood on the underside and then a 2x4 underneath that and then screwed them all together. The vise is attached in the corner of the bench such that one bolt is sunk into the leg on the corner and the other two bolts pass through the bench, the plywood, and the 2x4. This setup is rock solid.
tl;dr spread the load out over a large area and even weak materials can carry a huge load.
i just cut out a section of my particle board and ran a couple 2x4s across and bolted it to that. not very aesthetically pleasing but it isnt going anywhere
You definitely want it at the corner so you can get at stuff from multiple angles (unless you never intend to clamp anything particularly large / awkward)
Corner
Corner over a post (so hammering forces are supported for efficiency) and far enough out so when the vise is at 0 or 90 degrees rotation, the fixed jaw clears your workbench edge so you can have something long go through the vise.
Mine is outside on top of a light pole I sunk 3' in the ground. It doesn't move a millimeter and I can beat and grind all I want. When I'm done I just put a 5 gallon bucket over it
>I just got a wilton 4 inch swivel base at a garage sale for $15 and it is in good shape.
Post pics of actual vise...
I listened to some Black person here and bought a ~$300 Yost vise. Wasn't satisfied from day one.
The jaws didn't close evenly, for multiple reasons.
The ways inside the fixed jaw, and on the tail of the movable jaw were finished rough, and warped, respectively.
The adjustable gib was a raw casting (not machined).
The pin holding the main nut was pressed in wienereyed. Yeah, "no one will ever see it", still sloppy.
And on the screw, the gap where the U-shaped retaining plate sits is much wider than that plate, so there's lash.
I fixed 1, 2, 3 and 5, and gave the vise to my brother in law. It's more than enough for how he'll use it.
And I bought 160mm/~6.25" Heuer vise for about $1000. No comparison, those Germans nailed it. It's fixed base (what I wanted), and those four sets of ways with the bolt is a better system.
Inb4 "spend 3x, get something nicer"... yeah, I know.
The bench is a big rectangle in the middle of the room. Vise is mounted above one of the center legs, on the long side of the table. Like God intended.
You could also have bought used. For 1k you could have gotten a good wilton bullet and would have saved 500 of it. I could never buy new. I am too cheap.
>for about $1000
you get milsurp that size for below 200€ here
>spending $1000 on something you are going to rough work and hammer on, which isnt any more functional than the one you gave away
its die forged, so already leagues above cast shit for the stuff you mentioned
>he didnt watch the fireball tool vise torture test video
So who wants to tell him?
I dont watch flamboyand homosexuals
If I were you, I wouldn’t watch it either
It would make me sick to my stomach to know I paid $1000 for a vise that had lead screw damage from a few light taps of a hammer (which a cheap harbor freight vise didn’t)
And it would especially hurt to see that the vise irreparably bends and damages itself when cranked down to about 9000 ft lbs of clamping force (which just so happens to be about where the harbor freight vice got to before failing)
You know, the two things you think it’s better at doing than cheaper vises.
im not the anon that paid 1000 bucks
i payed ~100€ for the 6" milsurp, pristine condition and nice olive paint job.
Use clamps and move it around as needed.
Corner, preferably above a leg post of your table. Left side is best if right handed and vise versa, but but not a big deal if you have a different tool fixed on the left side already
Corner, if it can turn you can use it from both sides and that’s really useful sometimes. Far enough towards the edge so that the rotating thing never hits the work surface of course. Far enough inwards that if you rotate it out of the way it leaves some space to put something long on the edge of workbench. Basically the rotating thing should just clear the edge of the workbench
you should install it slightly raised
the optimal vise height depends but its clamping height over ones belly button, plus you gain range clamping odd shapes
forgot pic
Make sure the rear jaws overhang the bench, it massively increases what you can clamp
Just picked up the 4" Wilton bullet vise (upper left hand corner of pic) for $80 a couple days ago...
God dammit... didn't upload the pic!
Dont forget to post pics of when you slather it in baby blue paint and then stick it in a corner for it to never get used!
Will do, just for you babycakes.
I remember those. Nice scores. For fun collect milling machine vises the same way. I scored four Kurts and two good older clones for fifty apiece at auction.
I have a Bridgeport brand milling vise that I got with a Lagun knee mill. It's pretty cool looking with "BRIDGEPORT" cast right into it.
Too bad they are garbage as an actual milling vise
Good drill press vise though.
I lube my vise screws with anti-seize and some are in the open on my outdoor welding/grinding bench. Over 20 years and no problems.
Bolt to bench at strong point or if bench a shit there are many creative ways to mount them. One of mine is bolted to a plate welded to 2" tubing (think Reese hitch which it also fits) locked to my tristand by the chain clamp. Tristands (used is fine) are magical wonderful things.
My main vise is in the corner over a post and I have another one on a very heavy stump for portability
>where do put vice?
In the corner on a post with the rest of the junk.
Please clean up your shit anon. Please.