Marpat adoption

>if the marines weren't autistic about being unique, then every branch would have adopted marpat.
Why did the marines started this whole inter rival branch war between camos in the 2000s? They are the reason to why the army created UCP. The camo isn't even unique given that its a copy of CADPAT.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick off and make your own camo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t.marine

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a taxpayer, it is my camo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >make your own camo
      marines didnt even do that lol

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter. Wasn't there a law passed anyways that for any future uniform changes all branches have to wear the same?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was passed in the 2010s after OCP was created. Basically it bars branches from researching their own camos unless the camo they are researching applies to all branches. The marines/navy, didn't gave up their camo. The air force more or less gave up their ABU uniforms for Army OCP ACUs.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because Marine egos are only eclipsed by their marketing budget. If they didn't try at every step to be special little snowflakes how would anyone know they're Marines (despite the fact that they'll take every opportunity to remind you)?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Funny, because they were wearing the same uniforms for a while. From OG-107 to m81/6color/3color camos.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As it should be HURAYH

      https://i.imgur.com/ZJ6KCe0.jpg

      [...]
      OCP will stay here after a long time. Aside from that, the new camos is the result of the branch rivalry in trying to create a good/unique camo for their branches. The army quickly realized how moronic their camo was and adopted MultiCam temporarily until it adopted OCP. OCP is a good all around camo that fits with most environments and the army seems to want to stick with it afyer a while. Congress also thinks that way and decided make a policy that restricts branches abilities to make new camos. If they want a new camo, they have to adopt OCP.

      I think OCP will get replaced soon, seeing how every thurd-world country started to use for some reason? I doubt US will want normal people associating Russia or China's military with U.S. Like homie you're using your enemy's camo wtf are you doing lol. America is just that powerful.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, it will not. The U.S. doesn't really care about other countries adopting the camo. Another thing to note is that most countries adopts multicam rather than OCP. Ukraine uses both camos, but thats due to them utilizing whatever resources they have. Aside from that, OCP/Multicam is a good as camo. Its doubtful the army wants to replace it after a few years since its full on adoption.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The U.S. doesn't really care about other countries adopting the camo
          They will, just a matter of time. They cant have sub 80IQ boomers and dummies assosiating the "enemy" with "our boys".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, because its still an efficient camo. The only way they will switch up is if they found a camo that can be adopted at a wider scale. At worse, they will just temporarily adopt a camo like what happened in Afghanistan with MultiCam in 2010.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >every thurd-world country started to use

        Same thing happened with olive drab, M81, and digital. It doesn't matter what you switch to. Everyone copies the top dog.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      except you know, the USMC, just got camo that worked and has stuck with it. While everyone wanders around shitting up their uniforms and wasting money. O and smallest marketing budget in the military. Just better

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone has to do that because the marines wont let anybody adopt their camo and initiated a contest between branches. Aside from that, the marines reap what they sow when they couldn't even get enough woodland marpat a year ago.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    always makes me think of vomit, where as CP makes me think of nice "rough" scenic meadow with trees, rocks and shrubs.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The US military changing uniforms every 5 years is just a scam to flece tax dollars and funnel them to contractors.
    M82 woodland was key for 30 years GWOT comes in and basically removes all the rules that eliminate corruption in millitary acquisition and bidding. Presto the military needs to toss out all their soft gear every 5 years or so and get a new color plan.

    The USMC is the only ones that picked one and stuck to it. and used the new scam system to actually buy good things for the grunts like top tier boots and every single rifle gets an ACOG. instead of the USMC supply generals taking bribes from people offering a new color of uniform.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've never understood the /k/'s obsession with "the best camo" especially with the US since we fight wars everywhere and its so heavily dependent on the landscape

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Look good is half the battle.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've never understood the /k/'s obsession with "the best camo" especially with the US since we fight wars everywhere and its so heavily dependent on the landscape

      OCP will stay here after a long time. Aside from that, the new camos is the result of the branch rivalry in trying to create a good/unique camo for their branches. The army quickly realized how moronic their camo was and adopted MultiCam temporarily until it adopted OCP. OCP is a good all around camo that fits with most environments and the army seems to want to stick with it afyer a while. Congress also thinks that way and decided make a policy that restricts branches abilities to make new camos. If they want a new camo, they have to adopt OCP.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OCP>multicam until the day i die. crazy how a small tweak makes it so much better in vegetation without fricking up performance elsewhere.
        MC and MC arid are virtually identical.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          OCP is not a derivative of MultiCam. Both OCP/MultiCam is a direct modification to the Scorpion Camo from the early 2000s like pic related. The army tweaked the camo a bit with OCP by making it more darker/greener

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I never noticed how ugly scorpion w2 is till now

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that's why it works.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Scorpion w2 looks fine. I prefer they adopt the original scorpion design, but the added green base color/dark brown colors made it more adaptive to vegetation than Scorpion/MultiCam itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If I was in the army I'd demand custom season/location specific camo or you can get someone else to fight.

      They should issue extra unused camo to High School kids for school uniforms, for several reasons. Diff schools would have diff camo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The point of having a singular camo for everything is so we don't repeat what happened in iraq/gulf war. Having many different camos results in logistical frick ups. A more recent example is the woodland marpat shortages.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Army selected the Crye offer in 2014 contest as winner, which included standard Multicam, but also MC Arid and MC Woodland, but ultimately rejected it because they didn't want to pay for licensing costs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It makes sense from a logistical and economic standpoint. No point in having a camo that is locked behind licensing bullshit. In which case its better to make a modify version of the scorpion pattern from 2004 like what crye did to make multicam.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Crye was pretty much negotiating in bad faith. They stated that their uniforms are NOT that expensive for troops, but the army didn't believe them.. however, if you seen the cost between license MultiCam stuff from truspec, you notice a $50 increase for multicam products compared to other camos. In which case, i can see why the army was doubtful of crye when there is that much of a price increase between crye and non crye products of similar quality.

            there is no reason that they couldn't have just stolen the color schemes from the offer and applied them to OCP

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Because the purpose is to make a camo that fits with all environments. OCP is just a modified version of the Scorpion camo from the trials in 2004.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Because its alot more specific than general.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Crye was pretty much negotiating in bad faith. They stated that their uniforms are NOT that expensive for troops, but the army didn't believe them.. however, if you seen the cost between license MultiCam stuff from truspec, you notice a $50 increase for multicam products compared to other camos. In which case, i can see why the army was doubtful of crye when there is that much of a price increase between crye and non crye products of similar quality.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody would give a single frick about your “demands,” dipshit.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    should be custom plaid "tartan" designs.

    You could ID unit by its plaid, and its like a whole fricking language.

    You could have certain strips for division, then all the way down to platoon if needed, but would all be similar camo-colors.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure that sounded great in your head

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really have an issue with the Army and it's complicated relationship with Multicam, nor do I have an issue with the USMC exclusively using MARPAT. Marines always wanted two patterns for seasonal changes, training and OPFOR purposes.

    What I do have an issue with is the Air Force adopting that horrendous 50/50 Twill Digital Tiger Stripe and the Navy Adopting NWU Type 1 blueberry camo and then consequently NWU Type 3 AOR2.

    Why in the frick did the navy waste so much fricking money on ugly ass NWU Type 1? It never made sense. If the pattern had been basically a haze grey dominant digital camo with deck grey and blue as the complementary color it would have been fine, hell they could have done a grey blue scale multicam. OR they could just follow the Air Force and go Scorpion because camo literally does not matter at all to them. The navy can just not stop fricking around with its uniforms and it's baffling to look at the coasties that have used the same blue BDUs for like 30 years

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What I do have an issue with is the Air Force adopting that horrendous 50/50 Twill Digital Tiger
      The air force in 2012 made a ripstop version of the digital tiger. But they were all following the digital camo trend.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Navy shortly switched to APOR1/2. its like marpat, but greener and shifted at 90°

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like my NWU1, but AOR1/NWU2 is awesome. AOR2/NWU3 is ugly, and sticks out with all the black.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >and sticks out with all the black.
        moron. maybe if you took your stuff to the woods you'd see how this is laughably false

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but NWU3 is pretty limited when it comes to the environments its supposed to blend. Even when faded, its still very limited.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's just like my opinion, man.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, you're still a moron. You never had a combat deployment

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Another fly in the ointment about Camo is it is not a gillie suit on the battle field for E-1 11b's it is to make identification of US vs Them look at the war in Ukraine where everyone is wearing either mulitcam or A-Tacs FG and then the sides all are wearing colors of their team so Ukraine troops wearing blue and yellow armbands and helmet toppers so they don't get friendly fire fragged defeats the point that blending in to the terrain is most important.

    I suppect the reason a lot of westerm countries adopted woodland clone camos in the 80-90's was not that it was the best camo for their AOR but there was a bennefit of being confused for a USA troop had bennefit even if it was for 1 second. same way as lots of SOG pointmen in Vietnam wore black pajamas.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >muh identification
      Its mainly because its a good fricking camo that fits with their environment. Identity comes last, but they adopt it because its less money for a camo that works in their environment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The russians and the ukrainians were wearing ID colours for their own benefit originally. Both sides had a shitload of uniforms on the books, with shade variations even within the same pattern.

      The original goal was more to avoid b/o/b in friendlies wearing unknown uniforms.

  9. 1 month ago
    Sieg

    I used to see a lot of those uniforms hanging in the closet of girls I met off tinder back in the day

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want US to switch to yet another new camo just to troll third-worlders who just finished adopting Multicam.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it would go well with our new troll service rifle.
      i suggest a ripoff of US4CES just to piss those guys off.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Return to tigerstripe

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's a homosexual version of tiger stripe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We should adopt tblock or m81 urban

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    camo is completely irrelevant

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t.moron

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The camo isn't even unique
    Why do you care then?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The argument isn't about the uniqueness of the camo. Its about why the marines being autistic about a camo they copied from Canada.

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