Machining help

>no machinists thread up
You guys had one job :/
Anyway how the frick do I machine this feature on a 5 axis cnc mill? I thought I was good at machining but I can’t think of anything that doesn’t fricking suck and neither can anyone at my company fml

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Put in the appropriate end mill

    >Don't be a goddamned moron

    >???

    >PROFIT

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Also changes to the part to make it easier to machine are acceptable
    I’m so fricking lost bros my customer came back and asked how we can modify the part to make it 60% cheaper and I just am out of ideas I’m literally asking PrepHole for help with my goddamn job as an engineer what the frick

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      make the key a separate component, either press fit or figure out a way to thread it

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    two sets of arc interpolations? Pretty fricking small though.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why not machine it as one whole piece then cut in half?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >can’t think of anything that doesn’t fricking suck
    What's your sucky approach?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ok step one is picrel

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Step two, then step 3 is the final op to cut the round

        How is it hard to round over a piece with a CNC?

        Have you got like a Great Value CNC machine?

        Tiny part & tight tolerances, can’t hold a good surface finish

        why not machine it as one whole piece then cut in half?

        What
        Idk how that would help

        two sets of arc interpolations? Pretty fricking small though.

        You can’t press fit a pin on the side like that

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Tiny part & tight tolerances

          https://www.the-carbide-end-mill-store.com/20m5/micro-end-mills.html

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Idk, my boss says it won’t work. I obviously thought of that first fm

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          start with the entire piece as a cylinder, machine the component as a whole, then cut it in half in the middle. now you have two finished pieces for your client.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What this anon is trying to communicate, is make the piece out of twice the amount of stock, make the part as you’re making it now EXCEPT mirror imaged onto itself. So instead of your half a pin key type thing you’ll have a slightly out of round circular pin. You then bisect it perfectly centered and you have two of the same part. You not getting it still or what? It definitely sounds easier to machine.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/2avPeuC.jpg

        Step two, then step 3 is the final op to cut the round
        [...]
        Tiny part & tight tolerances, can’t hold a good surface finish
        [...]
        What
        Idk how that would help
        [...]
        You can’t press fit a pin on the side like that

        well the way you posted is the only way you're going to get it to go
        What's the issue?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Mismatches and tolerances :/ having to finish that cylindrical surface in multiple ops is less than ideal since u gotta blend it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            what's the functional purpose of this part?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Can’t say :c
              This is a purely theoretical machining question :^)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I’m sorry!!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said, the way you posted is the only way I can see it being done on a 5 axis mill.
                Not knowing the functional purpose of the key on the end, there's no way to know how to modify the design to make it cheaper and easier.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ugh true. It’s just a pin to slot into a key way. Like where u turn it and it locks into place

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's what I figured. Does it have to be that exact size and shape? Just drill a small hole and throw a hardened pin in instead, or thread one in if youre feeling frisky

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly where my head went and Im not a machinist, it just makes sense.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How is it hard to round over a piece with a CNC?

    Have you got like a Great Value CNC machine?

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you turn the main shape on a lathe leaving a ridge of material for the pin on the end then you can cut the shape top down with end mills

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >you turn the main shape on a lathe
      >leaving a ridge of material for the pin on the end
      >cut the shape top down with end mills
      Hey OP. What about this idea?

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I could do this on a lathe for the initial turning and then a 3 axis mill easily if i can use a rotary table for part of it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I realized its not helpful to just say I could do it so I drew my thoughts down. I'm too tired right now to open CAD

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I could do this on a lathe for the initial turning and then a 3 axis mill easily if i can use a rotary table for part of it

        oh wait nevermind they said this is a super tiny part i thought it was like a big part this setup is overkill for a tiny thing

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >turn the part down to .375
    >turn the middle with a grooving tool to whatever the frick it needs to be
    >only have to 5axis the tip

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Turn a piece of stock to .375, but leave it longer than needed so you can put it in a collet chuck on the rotary axis. Turn down the smaller diameter, leaving a lip around the entire diameter where that stupid little feature will be. Chuck the extra long .375 portion into a collet chuck on the rotary axis of the mill and the rest is easy using the toolpaths of your choice. Cut off the extra with a saw cutter or turn off in a lathe. Tell them that they can figure out how to cut the price by 60% or frick off.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Tell them that they can figure out how to cut the price by 60% or frick off
      this...charge them for consulting time

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Send it to AvE with your desired specs

    For the lulz

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing AvE ever seems to do is turn perfectly good bar stock into scrap.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not true

        He burned up and broke like $800 worth of end mills turning $2 railroad iron into $3 bookends

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Judging by the pic you used for your second operation it sounds like you got it figured out. You need to make custom vise jaws for it that leaves only that top part exposed

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I can’t think of anything that doesn’t fricking suck

    Of course because that's a stupid design.

    Just millturn it. If you need better finish get a better machine. With modern endmills and hydrostatic ways there's basically no practical limit to surface finish. You could also diamond shape it with a CNC shaper. Like a lathe but only 95% of each revolution. Or do it old school and jig grind it.

    Naturally everything you can think of will be harder and a lot more expensive than machining a geometry made for easy machining.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Probably press fit that niglet of a feature for because it's a small piece, or thread. If you need that feature to be flush with the point end, have the pin or threaded pin be ling enough to fit/thread into a small hole, while having a larger half to that threaded or regular pin that is rectangular, and sticks slightly above the point length, which can then be ground down to be flush with the point length.
    Hope that makes sense
    No clue if this would work for your application but if it needed to be flush to the point as shown in the pic, that's the first way I'd try it.
    T. Manual surface grinder

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    3d print it, idiet

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's dumb. Send it back to the engineer and berate them for not having any practical knowledge of how things are made and wasting company resources because autism.

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