they won't retrieve anything of value in here for electronics, they still have the frame, chassis, and weaponry tho.
let's see what they'll do with it in 10 years, if there's any russia left
It means you took it in a state such that you could make use of it. If it's just detritus, it's not a capture. Like you if you picked up the discarded pin from an enemy grenade, you wouldn't say you captured it.
Or a better example, you capture enemy soldiers if you take them alive. If you're just bagging their bodies after the fight, you didn't "capture" anyone.
This comment is so funny because I know for a fact that if you saw footage of this being hit you would be saying that it's just disabled and could easily be repaired
damage to suspension doesn't matter
same with a missing track
but a busted hull is a complete write off
This comment is so funny because I know for a fact that if you saw footage of this being hit you would be saying that it's just disabled and could easily be repaired
i'm gonna bet it was mobility killed - presumably by a mine and the scuttled by the crew
they won't retrieve anything of value in here for electronics, they still have the frame, chassis, and weaponry tho.
let's see what they'll do with it in 10 years, if there's any russia left
as if they don't know what the 120mm gun and M1A1 armor are capable of
i love how russians treat 1 tank like they've slain a demigod.
i can already imagine all the russians in moscow staring at this thing in pure bewilderment.
they must feel like they just lifted a mountain, too bad for normal humans it's just a regular tank that happens to be better than anything russia fields.
oh no
now Russia can analyze a 50 year old tank design
[...] >the western media
all i saw was a bunch of articles saying "could"
also ignoring the fact that western media is there to get clicks and doesn't represent the media nor the government.
ziggers constantly talk about what western "media" is saying, but quite frankly nobody gives a shit about what western media is saying, it doesn't have any relevance, i don't have to defend them because they exist purely to get clicks and because journo's are the lowest form of human on this earth.
the 700+ lost T-80's have finally been avenged
>INB4 a bunch of ziggers start crying about the promises "western media" made like they're some single body controlled by the govt and not a bunch of money hungry losers with english majors that want people to look at their website.
i love how russians treat 1 tank like they've slain a demigod.
i can already imagine all the russians in moscow staring at this thing in pure bewilderment.
they must feel like they just lifted a mountain, too bad for normal humans it's just a regular tank that happens to be better than anything russia fields.
It's not just one but 5 Abrams were destroyed in Berdychi. So in the coming days more Abrams will be towed back to Moscow since the town was recently completely taken over by the Russians.
You know everyone’s talking about APC depletion, but I want to know about artillery. That’s… really big numbers of lost artillery. How much can you lose before you stop being able to arty party effectively?
It includes everything down to mortars. But yes, 152mm standard pieces are getting distintly rarer these days while the Russians are rolling every oddball and leftover they can get to the front now if the detailed kill figures are anything to go by.
I wouldn't be surprised to see it put on display in Red Square or something. We've already taken some of their destroyed stuff as trophies and put it on display. It's good propaganda
>the western media
all i saw was a bunch of articles saying "could"
also ignoring the fact that western media is there to get clicks and doesn't represent the media nor the government.
ziggers constantly talk about what western "media" is saying, but quite frankly nobody gives a shit about what western media is saying, it doesn't have any relevance, i don't have to defend them because they exist purely to get clicks and because journo's are the lowest form of human on this earth.
You may think that but western media is still a powerful tool. It's *our* tool and it shapes public opinion. Remember the campaign to allow Ukraine use of the leopard tank? That was extremely successful
i'm of the opinion that media was actually barely responsible for aid going to ukraine and they were going to get similar amounts whether people ignored it or not, but that's just me, i might be wrong about that.
>INB4 a bunch of ziggers start crying about the promises "western media" made like they're some single body controlled by the govt and not a bunch of money hungry losers with english majors that want people to look at their website.
Actually I think this might be tank #4 due to the more extensive fire damage on the the front and the turret turned left over the left track
https://twitter.com/RadarFennec/status/1773326329573773628
Okay now show all the T-55's, T64's, T72's, T-80's, T-84's, Leopard 2's that Ukraine has lost, i'd ask for Challenger's too but i only know of a few confirmed loses so that number wouldn't really matter.
>TWO (2) variants of the t-55 lost: M-55S >407 t-64s lost >235 t-72s lost >57 t-80s lsot >37 leopard 2s lost >1 challenger 2 lost >4 abrams lost >52 unknown tanks lost >total tanks lost: 797
Russia has lost more t-80s than Ukraine has lost tanks
Ziggers live through their weapons. Flexing their military might is the only way they can feel strong, so they project and think that's how we think of things.
Whereas the West just has a bottomless well of money and buying a replacement is an afterthought
I remember this WEBM was posted in a thread as if it was an Abrams, and I pointed out that it couldn't be the Abrams because of the automatic barrel tilt up thing that it did that only autoloaders do.
And then everyone in the thread got really angry and started calling me names.
Good times.
>barrel thing that goes up
It is clearly a t-90, but I don't see the barrel autoloader action.
The tank fires a round, the gun recoils, the fume vent is opened and the barrel tips up into its loading position.
All of this happens before 0:02 in the video.
Challengers weren’t on the front lines. An interview with a challenger crew just dropped and they said they can’t store enough ammo in the load rack for offensive operations and that it was too heavy to use in most places
>it was too heavy to use in most places
They also said the T-64, T-72, and T-80 suffer the exact same bogging issue. They're operating them in pairs - one equipped with EW to neutralize drones/FPVs - and they're putting in good work in defensive ops.
I remember this WEBM was posted in a thread as if it was an Abrams, and I pointed out that it couldn't be the Abrams because of the automatic barrel tilt up thing that it did that only autoloaders do.
And then everyone in the thread got really angry and started calling me names.
Good times.
how le funny xD would it be if they just packed one of these full of explosives and blew it up when it reaches a reverse engineering lab, or even better, when it's in the middle of a crowded display, like a good ol' trojan horse?
It's obviously Russia from the commie blocks in the background and the Babushkas in cold weather clothing.
But yes I'm sure 2 more weeks until the Bongs freeze eating the hamsters.
It's from a propaganda piece they did the first winter with the "XAXAXA Europe will freeze" before Europe had a really mild winter.
https://twitter.com/ruinwanderer/status/1743745485213470832
I have this problem all the time. I swear they are the same ethnicity. British and Russian people look so similar and the weather and backgrounds always look so similar as well.
I already said this in the /misc/ thread but your delusional if you think Russia, China, Iran, etc will be able to glean any information from these burnt husks that isn't known already.
For me, the proof that we needn't worry about vatniks learning anything from our vehicles is ironically enough, the existence of decent MoD demonstrators.
Even when the few remaining Russoid brains come up with good designs, the oligarchs say hell no, I can't sail the Mediterranean on that, take a hike.
It's been nearly a decade; if they haven't broken ground to make these by now, they literally never will.
Bullshit government projects that are extremely expensive and promising that go on forever because its a perfect method for embezzling money and graft is Putin keeps his partners the oligarchs sailing the mediterranean. Those demonstrators are serving their true purpose wonderfully.
>It's been nearly a decade; if they haven't broken ground to make these by now, they literally never will.
Outdated.
Recent military experience shows it's new meta.
Turtle tank is new hot.
>this is a massive propaganda win for the ziggers
It's an average, vanilla propaganda win. Ukraine is littered with destroyed vehicles from both sides. They aren't hard to recover. A massive propaganda win would be if they captured a depot or something and had a bunch of them they could drive in the parade.
>A massive propaganda win would be if they captured a depot or something and had a bunch of them they could drive in the parade.
Oooooh that would be so fricking bad if it were to actually happen kek.
An actual propaganda victory for the russians is them capturing one of the "meme" weapons like the HIMARs but those are far from frontline while the Ukrainians have captured most of the good shit from the russians.
There's two wars at play here, a propaganda war where Ukraine is convincing the west to give it more weapons and the war war where those weapons get used to fight Russia.
It's in Ukraine's interest to play up the impact weapons will have before they reach the battlefield. To convince the West to send more. And in Russia's interest to play down the impact they'll have to convince the West to send less
Most western countries loathe Russia now and hope it loses so the propaganda isn't necessary to convince the West to send weapons
that was last summer right? 1 week of spam and threads that were made in bad faith and then everyone forgot about it.reminds me of that time when russians shot a missile at a harvester because they somehow mistok that for a leopard 2.ziggers only live in the present and the past&future are strange concepts for them.
CV90s are barely known outside tank autists unlike the Abrams which is the MBT that "won" Desert Storm and appeared in so many Documentaries, movies and videogames.
>destroying an enemy tank now constitutes a major propaganda win
Is this really the biggest occasion? I could get celebrating taking out all of the Abrams sent or capturing a fully functional top of the line M1A2 SEPv3 but taking out 5 basic b***h M1A1s doesn't sound all that crazy or impressive. Are they gonna hoot and holler when a single F16 gets shot down too?
Yes, they need a distraction for their population so they spend valuable time and money on this dumbass propaganda. You don't see the US or the West as whole celebrating that Russia has lost over 100 T-90s.
M1A1s won Desert Storm whilst SEPv3 has only faced goat herders and wouldn't have fared any better against FPV drones that hit MBTs from above.
>M1A1s won Desert Storm
HUNDREDs of M1A1s were in Desert Storm with air cover and supporting armored vehicles. Not 30.
Would hundreds of M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams tanks "secret sauce" DU armor plates with supporting vehicles and air support will save them from getting destroyed by FPV drones striking them from above? As this war in Ukraine has FPV drones can wipe out an entire mechanized column without caring what type of vehicle you are since they always strike from above.
Those hundreds of tanks would get support from the air force and an electronic warfare unit. Drones have become so prominent because the sky in Ukraine is contested
every military is watching what is happening now and developing technologies to deal with the proliferation of drones
3 weeks ago
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> every military is watching what is happening now and developing technologies to deal with the proliferation of drones
US has had robust anti-drone tech and training deployed for a decade now. The Asymmetric Warfare Group identified drones a threat in 2015, prior to their heavy use by ISIS, and so the US was able to integrate training and EW counter-measures well before they came into contact with ISIS drones in Iraq. All that isn’t to say that the US isn’t doing more research about how to defeat larger swarms or make anti-drone measure more robust in a peer conflict, but it is to say that the US had identified drones as an issue in warfare well before the war in Ukraine ever started.
>As this war in Ukraine has FPV drones can wipe out an entire mechanized column
Because Russia sends them into FPV areas with no jammers and they drive through minefields. A lot of columns being destroyed are half Ukies killing them and half Ruskie incompetence.
It's not like we haven't done it. The Germans put a wrecked russkie tank in front of the Russian embassy in Berlin
Russians, Germans and Brits hate each other so much it's unreal.
Tank armor being thinner on top =!= being nonexistent
I seriously doubt run of the mill FPV frickers with mortar shells would be able to drop fully outfitted Abrams
You know this guy is a fricking moron arguing in bad faith because he doesn't realize most footage of FPV drones are them taking out tanks after they've been damaged or abandoned due to mines, artillery fire and ATGMs.
The biggest RU armored collumns in this war have been taken out with minimal FPV drone use.
>A burnt out husk of a Western tank is worth more effort recovering than a damaged Russian example >That burnt out husk will be considered a trophy while there's no more pristine domestic examples to show in parades
no one treats it like that except ziggers. you need some serious context here. the way russia is fighting this war isn't how modern warfare is fought. russians are incompetent shit heads that can't even into basic combined arms never mind sead. russians are fighting a trench war against the poorest country in europe. that's the reality. a serious military would achieve aerial supremacy then roll in the tanks and have them be supported by air as they mop up the rest of the territory. this artillery spam, using tanks to move the front, it's an aberration, a live action museum piece of the early 20th century. it's a joke, russia is a joke. the west is a joke letting russia do this shit
>"newest" russian tank captured >a few photos of it in the middle of nowhere, no one cares really >"newest" western tank captured >big media propaganda campaign about epic victory over inferior HATO tech
We are at a point where taking a wrecked western vehicle is considered a propaganda victory for Russia, and the browns are celebrating and spamming /k/.
It’s possible Russia’s losing harder than we think they’re losing. I mean, was there any external indication when Germany was going to shatter entirely in WW1?
You can never know for sure when it comes to totalitarian regimes, time will tell.
They are busy putting cope nets on their refineries, which is at least a clear indicator that their AA is so shit that even their critical infrastructure is in peril.
They are indeed on production deficit on, well, everything, but one cannot infer how bad things really are out of that thing alone.
They probably knows already a lot about the F-22 already, question is can they make a plane like the F-22? It seems obvious like they can, same for vatniks, they lack the engineering brains, the materials and tech, So at the end of the day it doesn't matter. As an example the M142 is a relatively simple MRLS system, why russia nor china can make their own version with a comparable level of precision and effectiveness?
Yes
City. What are you a fricking moron?
Both of these are considered cities in Ukraine
Sorry not everything is fricking Dallas
So fricking arrogant all of you
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Disingenuous pidor, there is only one word for a settlement that's above village level in Ukrainian, "мicтo", which can refer to anything, from a small town to a megapolis. Unlike English, in which there are distinct words "town" and "city". have a nice day.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
24 more of those and it will make up for the forever russian city of Kherson
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>population 12 thousand >city
What fricking shithole are you from?
>Chasiv Yar
Fricking hell I just realized Russia has not reached even 10km away from Bakhmut...
Also, those are small sub-15k towns. Barely not-villages.
Those were town-sized settlements before the war (they're ghost towns now), and they are strategically worthless, just like Avdiivka and Robotyne (there I said it, are you happy now zigger?).
They probably will soon. Not much left.
But they've since annexed other oblasts, so it's hard to stop the war.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They probably will soon. Not much left.
I'm assuming they'll finally have full control of the two regions in two weeks, is that right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 more weeks
Unironically yes. They will push hard for Victory day.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So Russians are going to be ramping up assault right as Ukrainian is to receive support from the US?
I can't fricking wait, kino's back on the menu boys!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Right before*
Yes. Best time for it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You know, this is exactly what you lot said would happen the last two years of Victory Days. What makes this year any different?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The ukraine has no guns and ammo, because of western political demobilization. They will continue to retreat for weeks until the next deliveries come.
3 weeks ago
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3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Works cited:
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Damn bro that's crazy
Here's an unrelated map from February 2023
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no flags
Figures, just more waves upon waves with no meaningful change in the frontline.
Pyrrhic victories are still victories l.
Russia won the Winter war against Finland too, despite memes.
The soviets didn't lose 75% of their armor during the winter war.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet with no guns and ammo they're still slaughtering 900 to a thousand pidors a day, really makes me think Puccia isn't actually fricking pathetic, lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pyrrhic victories are still victories l.
Russia won the Winter war against Finland too, despite memes.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The definition of a Pyrrhic victory is a victory so costly that it would have been better never to have been fought.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well then by your definition its not Pyrrhic victory, its just normal regular victory
Because Russia took half Finland industry, mines, big port, population. And now will take half Ukraine industry, big port, population. And your leaders will tell DEEEP CONCERN and DENOUNCE!!!! Denounce Axis of Evil!!!!! And 10 years later will come to buy oil and gas.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
VatBlack person, make up your fricking mind. Are you "taking" or "destroying" ukie industry? Because so far you've only been destroying factories in towns you take. And good luck demining agricultural land. >big port
Lmao, Neptune and drone boats send their regards. >population
It took you 20 years to subjugate Chechnya, even if you by some fricking miracle manage to capture clay, you'll have to abandon it due to insurgencies all over the place.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>alf Finland industry, mines, big port, population. And now will take half Ukraine industry, big port, population.
Your ESL hurts in so many ways.
Nowadays Finland would decline getting Karelia back. You turned it into shit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Unrelated political twitter screencap meme from /misc/
Go back
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And now will lose Crimea, several million people, its economy, its reputation, its dignity and its army
FTFY.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
-the Soviet Union partially won the Winter War against a far more isolated and weaker Finland*
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And did that victory actually gain anything?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They will continue to retreat for weeks
So the russians will make it halfway to Kramatorsk at last?
>Russia is wasting thousands of lives and resources for completely blown-out, depopulated villages. >Ukraine is wasting thousands of lives and resources for completely blown-out, depopulated villages.
Why are they like this?
Let's say Russia somehow manages to capture both Kramatorsk and Sloviansk before 2025, then what? Ukraine will be armed with f-16s by then so it will be completely impossible for Russia to advance if they somehow managed to capture those cities.
Russia gains nothing from these completely blown out, depopulated villages.
In fact its a lost since Russia AT LEAST loses thousands of soldiers and vehicles for these villages.
Congratulations. 🙂
7km rotation frickup is now considered a victory for World's Second Army.
Do you say out loud the sentences before you write them? Do you realize how bad things you say sound?
>Russia's SMO goals: Remove the Ukrainian governtment and stop the expansion of NATO >Result: Ukraine's government intact and its populace hates Russians, NATO gained two members
This truly is "victory". I'm sure those sanctions will be lifted any day now.
Victory is returning Russian colonies back to Russia, that were given away by political mistake in moment of weakness. Lugansk, Donbasin and Crima already taken. Rest of Black sea coast taken soon. All cities founded by Russia, much population Russian. Russian history there, these lands can't be abandoned. And connect to Moldova enclave of Russians also.
This means biggest Black sea power, means challenge Turkey, help Armenia. Means can force open Bosphorous, connect to the ocean, help friendly Arab countries. Counter US hegemony over Europa. Good for everyone European.
>Rest of Black sea coast taken soon. All cities founded by Russia, much population Russian. Russian history there, these lands can't be abandoned. And connect to Moldova enclave of Russians also.
Delusional, this requires a massive naval presence and the Russians are unable to stop suicide boats so how tf will they stop modern anti ship missiles?
There is a fundamental lie in your recollection of history; It was never Russian territory, it was Soviet Union territory.
All that land was given away by the Soviet Union, it never belonged to Russia in the first place.
Schroeder Soviet. People claim russia is not the soviet union and the soviet union actions/fear should not transfer to russia. At the same time, the soviet is russia and the russians are the rightful heirs to the soviet union and its history. People only decided to not associate the soviets with russia whenever it is negative.
>american education
1. USSR is Russia under different name.
2. Russian tzardom ruled all this land and more than USSR.
3. Russia started in that place, Kiev was first Russian capital.
>Russian tzardom
is not Russia. The Russian Federation is a contemporary larp, about 50 years old.
Meanwhile USSR was a German intelligence operation due to their successful funding of Lenin.
There is no "Russia". "Russia" is a cosntruct made up by a group of uncivilized barbarian tribes and mongol rape babies. It has no history, no culture, no legacy, no legitimacy and no claim to anything.
Kyiv was the first ukrainian capital, of the Ukrainians, an actual people and culture, unlike the barbarous scum that call themselves "russian". Frick off, you nekulturny pidor.
>Russian tzardom ruled all this land and more than USSR.
The Russian Empire never ruled Galicia. >USSR is Russia under different name.
All prominent Bolsheviks were israeli. >Russia started in that place, Kiev was first Russian capital.
That was Novgorod in the Russian North. It was a Scandinavian state and not a Slavic one.
>It was never Russian territory
What is now Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire and split between multiple oblasts
The Soviet Union unified it under the Ukranian SSR and annexed more land to it
>What is now Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire and split between multiple oblasts
"What is now Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire, please ignore any stretches of history prior or after Empire when that wasn't the case"
>I'm starting to think these type of posts have to be bait, no one can be this moronic.
Actual brown/Russian multipolarists often are this moronic, you're just used to talking to contrarian westerners.
>Help Armenia
[Abandons CSTO military alliance obligations]
Means Russia will only bully others when it feels safe in doing so, made a huge miscalculation in Ukraine, and turned a reversible mistake into a life-or-death struggle (which will see Russia die.)
Feed more untrained men and tankenstein armor to the grinder, breakthrough in just two more weeks. Glory awaits the motherland, comrade.
>At the end of the 18th century, the Russian Empire captured large uninhabited steppe territories from the former Crimean Khanate. >Nearly all of the major cities of southern and eastern Ukraine were established in this period: Aleksandrovsk (now Zaporizhzhia; 1770), Yekaterinoslav (now Dnipro; 1776), Kherson and Mariupol (1778), Sevastopol (1783), Simferopol and Novoaleksandrovka (Melitopol) (1784), Nikolayev (Mykolaiv; 1789), Odesa (1794), Lugansk (Luhansk; foundation of Luhansk plant in 1795).
I copy and paste from american wikipedia, everyone knows who makes these cities. Some greek tombs on a hill 5 km away is not a city.
This was empty space, because tatars only know slave trade and raiding, and space was left empty and not worked. Russia comes, drains swamp (metaphor and also real swamp wetlands) and sends russian farmers to work the land and form cities. This is russian wild, wild west. This is russian cowboy movies, and songs, and poetry and romanticism. This is poor people moving west to get free land and make a living and find bright future. Its our birthright.
>Digs up historical documents hundreds of years old to prove a point >Ignores the very recent event where those lands were given away
You do know that happened, right?
It's some sovereign citizen schizobabble logic >Ackshually Mr. Police Officer, according to the Articles of Confederation and the Magna Carta, I don't need a drivers license since I am representing myself as an independent agent and not as a person or other legal incorporated entity >NO YOU CAN'T ARREST ME, I DO NOT CONSENT TO BEING ARRESTED SO YOU CAN'T!
>american education
1. USSR is Russia under different name.
2. Russian tzardom ruled all this land and more than USSR.
3. Russia started in that place, Kiev was first Russian capital.
>american education
1. USSR is Russia under different name.
2. Russian tzardom ruled all this land and more than USSR.
3. Russia started in that place, Kiev was first Russian capital.
This glowie actually doxxed himself. Do we actually have unironic FSBgays shitting up the board? I thought it was indians/morons doing it for free?
I dont post from Moscow. Look at timezone maps moron.
I am telling you that you send 60 billion dollars for nothing. It is correct and right that Russia rules that land on the Black sea coast, you are spending money for wrong cause and it will not be allowed. Meanwhile your own south border has no funds to stop aztec invasion. Bad planning of your spending and economy, all your industry goes to China and all your money goes to Europe and you are left with nothing.
Leave this matter to us to resolve in Europe and stop paying europeans to go die fighting a lost cause. Go solve your own problems with that money.
Ivan, 80% of the money "sent to Ukraine" is spent in the US, on the US economy.
We build a bunch of new tanks and missiles, and we send all of the old ones we already have, it's a great system.
>I am telling you that you send 60 billion dollars for nothing
As an accountant, all of what you said is just buzzwords. First of all, its 60 billion in hard assets. Those assets are already been made and paid for. The money that goes towards replacing them goes to american industry. I hate Black folk like you who just flail around monetary value as if it means anything.
I am not government worker, I am patriot like you.
I want Russia first and you want America first. Its not meme, its material reality. If you go after your own best interest and mind your business, we go after our own interest and mind our own business. We never attack you in Americas. We even give up Cuba already.
World is big enough for Russia, China, Iran, America to be separate. Leave Europe and go do your politics in Americas.
Our democracy, free speech, troops have been Putin in danger because of Putin for 20 years. This doesn't end until he's gone. The killing will only speed up.
This war will see a correction of the mistake the West made in 1945, the continued allowance of a Russian state as a military power.
May your corrupt nation, its willfully ignorant people, and its interpretation of history join those of its former allies the Third Reich. Every European will sleep soundly when Moscow is ash.
>I am patriot like you.
Stop talking like Borat you piece of garbage. >I want Russia first
That makes you a moron. You people have barely gotten used to deoderant, and now you want to invade countries. We will make you sit on a bottle for decades instead. Your daughters will be paying off the rebuilding bill in legal brothels from Berlin to Nevada, for decades.
My daughters will travel to London and Paris with russian flag patch on their backpacks and people will greet them, because when USA gets out of Europe people will remember their real friends and who fights for them against Hitler and Napoleon and Ottoman.
Your daughters will suck mexican gangster penis for fentanyl and scream extasy in spanish. Ukraine is Vietnam 2 and you keep spending and keep rusting.
>It's good propaganda
It's embarrassing cringe. No first world country does this.
Even with USA spending billions dollars on propaganda and to hate Russia people in Europa still vote for Russia friendly parties in parlaiments.
Every country has Russia friendly party growing in votes. America friendly liberast LGBT parties all losing in votes every election. When you stop spending money they disappear. NOBODY HERE LIKES YOU. Go back to America and take your money and guns to America and go fight Mexico and Canada. Leave us alone!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I’m not a burger. I’m telling you we despise you and this time no one is going to feed you when your country collapses and famine once again rules in the land of Muscovy. Your propaganda won’t save you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>NOBODY HERE LIKES YOU.
Your not European, frick off.
>we invent chemistry
Lolno
You are worthless beings and your destruction is God's will.
God isn't real.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am European. Everyone here hates you subhuman steppe barbarians. Deal with it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>God isn't real.
Then it's America's will, which is the next closest thing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
*Germany's will
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ahhh so it's American.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Gott ist töt
Imaginary Wizard Man Flicking Bathwater on Dirty Obelisk of Generalismus Staaaleeen.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bro. Americans will just find Ukrainians to kill Russians until Putin is gone then rebuild Russia.
Some other Europeans are a little more extreme. Indians want this to go on forever. Same with the Chinese. Americans don't hate Russians. We want Putin gone so he's not doing his crap with our elections, misinformation, troll farms, hacking crap, running Russia into the ground and being a general shit to neighbors. It will be like a light switch with Americans once he's gone. Everyone else not so much
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Such projection. At the end of the day, the alt-righters that you have funded bit the hand that fed them. Europe is solidly behind Ukraine. The more important countries even more solidly.
My daughters will travel to London and Paris with russian flag patch on their backpacks and people will greet them, because when USA gets out of Europe people will remember their real friends and who fights for them against Hitler and Napoleon and Ottoman.
Your daughters will suck mexican gangster penis for fentanyl and scream extasy in spanish. Ukraine is Vietnam 2 and you keep spending and keep rusting.
[...]
Top Gun is more cringe.
>My daughters will travel to London and Paris with russian flag patch on their backpacks and people will greet them,
I can promise you that we will not. That is what they will tell you over the phone between doing 10 guys in the FKK
LMAO. Europe hates you subhuman, uncultured barbarous scum far more so than the Americans do. Try bringing your daughters to London or Paris. They will be spat upon and beaten.
>and who fights for them against Hitler
So the British and Americans, who had to bail out your incompetent asses and win the war for you.
I am not government worker, I am patriot like you.
I want Russia first and you want America first. Its not meme, its material reality. If you go after your own best interest and mind your business, we go after our own interest and mind our own business. We never attack you in Americas. We even give up Cuba already.
World is big enough for Russia, China, Iran, America to be separate. Leave Europe and go do your politics in Americas.
I dont post from Moscow. Look at timezone maps moron.
I am telling you that you send 60 billion dollars for nothing. It is correct and right that Russia rules that land on the Black sea coast, you are spending money for wrong cause and it will not be allowed. Meanwhile your own south border has no funds to stop aztec invasion. Bad planning of your spending and economy, all your industry goes to China and all your money goes to Europe and you are left with nothing.
Leave this matter to us to resolve in Europe and stop paying europeans to go die fighting a lost cause. Go solve your own problems with that money.
Nice comedy. Maybe we should hire this guy as a court jester?
>Top Gun is more cringe.
Not that I have any investment in Top Gun (?), but it actually isn't. Parading around a broken tank is comical to first world countries. It's not surprising that you don't know this, Vatnik.
Okay we invent chemistry, spacetravel, helicopter, television... you invent hamburger and bbc porno, wooopy wooopy kaye boyscout yankeeee haaaaaww
World without you is better world everyone in Europa knows this
>Okay we invent chemistry, spacetravel, helicopter, television
Inventions made in the soviet union half a century ago doesn't suddenly make Russia some 1st world country. >wooopy wooopy kaye boyscout yankeeee haaaaaww
I'm starting to think your just some baiting moron.
>pol buzzwords >BBC obsession >"haha USA so weak" >"USA is threatening us" >"USA is actually our brother, the world is big enough for both of us"
Real Vatnik SchiZo Hours.
>Okay we invent chemistry
No, that's msotly Brits and Germans.
>spacetravel
More Germans.
>helicopter
That was a Ukrainian.
>television
That was a Brit.
Try again, nekulturny barbarian. Your vile pit od scum trying to ape civilization has not, cannot and will never invent anything. All your kind cna do is steal and pervert.
NTA but didn't Sikorsky say he's a Russian by heart in one of his letters?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet he lived in America.
Also, if you wanna be cute, the inventor of the helicopter as a concept would be Leonardo da Vinci, the word itself was coined by a Frenchman who made the first actually engine-powered model and the first manned helicopter prototype took flight in 1901, built by a German.
>Okay we invent chemistry
Chemistry was invented when Russia wasn't even a concept >helicopter
Didn't know Da Vinci was a Russian.
Sikorsky created the first practical helicopter.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He lived in the Soviet Union, but today he would be Ukrainian, so he isn't even a Russian no matter how you try to slice it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Before or after he had to flee?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He didn't invent it. He studied and was born in Ukraine, ans left as soon as he could to join the US. That's an American success story right there.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Sergei Korolev was born in the city of Zhytomyr, the capital of Volhynian Governorate of the Russian Empire, on 12 January 1907
typical german name
ukraine is part of russia and he was russian like he says
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ukraine is part of russia
Clearly not, as evidenced by the two-year-long 3-day special military operation.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Should we tell him that Russia is a rightful part of Mongolia?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Korolev
Aka the guy riding on the coattails of german science and work.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There is no such thing as a "Russia" outside the delusions of babrbarous steppe tribals like (YOu), and hence Ukraine cannot be "part" of it.
Sikorsky was Ukrainian. And he didn't invent the helicopter, either. Deal with it, barbarian.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There is no such thing as a "Russia" outside the delusions of babrbarous steppe tribals like (YOu), and hence Ukraine cannot be "part" of it.
Sikorsky was Ukrainian. And he didn't invent the helicopter, either. Deal with it, barbarian.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky >He was the youngest of five children. His father, Ivan Alexeevich Sikorsky, was a professor of psychology in Saint Vladimir University (now Taras Shevchenko National University), a psychiatrist with an international reputation, and an ardent Russian nationalist. >Igor Sikorsky was an Orthodox Christian. >When questioned regarding his roots, he would answer: "My family is of Russian origin. My grandfather and other ancestors from the time of Peter the Great were Russian Orthodox priests." >WE WUZ SIKORSKY AN SHIET
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're still describing an American. Noce try, though.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
have a nice day, zigger.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
> After the Russian Revolution in 1917, Igor Sikorsky fled his homeland in early 1918, because the Bolsheviks threatened to shoot him for being "the Tsar's friend and a very popular person".
Lmao, like all intelligent Russians and future Soviets, he fled because the country was a dangerous shithole. He moved to the US precisely because it was a mecca for aviation, seeing as how the Wright brothers inventions are what propelled Sikorsky into aviation in the first place.
>After World War I, Igor Sikorsky briefly became an engineer for the French forces in Russia, during the Russian Civil War.[35] Seeing little opportunity for himself as an aircraft designer in war-torn Europe, and particularly Russia, ravaged by the Bolshevik Revolution and Russian Civil War, he emigrated to the United States, arriving in New York on March 30, 1919.
Lol, lmao even. Sikorsky is an American success story through and through, just like all of our scientists when they had to flee their shitholes for the peace, prosperity, and access to funds that only the US could provide.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pidorashka can't grasp the idea of becoming American. This concept, like success and coitus other than rape, will elude him as it has the rest of his subhuman brethren. Russia had the same chance to be great, but they have squandered it time and time again. He will never understand why all these people find success only as Americans, in spite of their place of origin. America itself has made this possible.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is because Russia subscribes to the concept of dominating people. If you were Ukrainian, you are Russian. If you were Serbian, you were Russian. If you were Czech, you were Russian. Anything formerly under the Soviet Union is "Russian" to them. They cannot fathom the idea that identities change to the host nation most favorable to the person. Nobody would actually want to be Russian if they had control of it, so Russians desperately need to force that identity on people.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
honestly russians ukrainians and belarussians are basically the same thing. however extending that to anything beyond that like czechs poles or estonians is completely wrong.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can see it in the way that they talk about any former Warsaw Pact or Eastern Bloc countries, though. Remember that even East Germany was technically its own state within the bloc but we all know that the Soviet Union controlled it, and any other eastern bloc country, pretty heavily. When they say something is Russian, they mean "it belongs to us." These are the same vatBlack person who still lay claim to Poland.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i understand what you mean. all i was trying to say is the moron trifecta is essentially the same nation in language culture and history so at least that makes sense. the rest of their claims is complete nonsense though.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pidorashka can't grasp the idea of becoming American. This concept, like success and coitus other than rape, will elude him as it has the rest of his subhuman brethren. Russia had the same chance to be great, but they have squandered it time and time again. He will never understand why all these people find success only as Americans, in spite of their place of origin. America itself has made this possible.
>Moving the goalposts
First he was Ukrainian
Now he is American
Everything to deny he was Russian lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He was American doing work inbAmerica with other Americans. That's undeniable.
All built under the Soviet Union (Which most Ukrainians say is just Russia)
By that logic China invented the Iphone because they are assembled there
What has independent Ukraine built?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Which most Ukrainians say is just Russia
They don't and it wasn't. >What has independent Ukraine built?
A grave for Russians to finally die in.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>All built under the Soviet Union >WE WUZ SOVIETZ
kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The Soviet Union was ran by Russians and we hate it! >Russians are the cause of every problem in Ukraine! >Those tanks designed by ethnic Russians working for the red army in factory set up by Stalin? well they are actually UKRAINIAN
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Who are you quoting?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Who are you quoting?
Ukrainian Nationalists who hate the Soviet Union but wewuz it's acomplishments
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Soviet Union was ran by Russians >Ran by
You can have things that are yours ran by someone else at the top. That doesn't mean they did your work. It can mean that you were not compensated for your work, as was the case in the USSR. If Russians were so great, they wouldn't be where they are now. Russians are losers by design. It is a mercy to exterminate them.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You can have things that are yours ran by someone else at the top. That doesn't mean they did your work
You can't call it your acomplishment if the only reason you worked on it is because the people someone else at the top designed it and told you to
It's like saying MacDonalds is Mexican because they pay Mexicans to cook their Hamburguers
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You can't call it your acomplishment
You can. >designed it and told you to
Only did one of those.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Only did one of those.
They did both
All of those were designed by the Soviets
Some of those designers were Russians (Koshkin, Morozov)
The Ukrainian ones were still working for the Red Army (Most Ukrainian nationalists would call them traitors if they did not want to wewuz)
Ukrainian nationalists in that period did not achieve anything; their failed rebellion probably killed more Poles than Russians
Ukraine has not built anything like that since it left the Soviet Union
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the Soviets
Yeah, of which Ukraine was. >Some of those designers were Russians
Keyword: some. >Shifting the goal posts by claiming he's only talking about nationalists.
Kek. You're a failure.
>Russian-Ottoman
This is the kind of historical frickery only produced in a nation that would have been raped by both powers. So where in the Caucasus did this come from?
the m1 has been exported around the globe for decades
are you really expecting me to believe that russia is so massively incompetent at intel gathering that they haven't been able to examine one in all that time? same thing with the javelin, how is it that china and india have made copies of that thing before russia has even started development?
>Dmitri Mendeleev was born in the village of Verkhnie Aremzyani, near Tobolsk in Siberia, on 8 February 1834
nooooooooo it was some germans! germans invent everything always everytime!
Sikorsky is neither Ukrainian nor Russian.
He's American, and yes that means the German scientists who built the first space rockets were American and Russian.
John Atanasoff inventor of computer is also russian btw
Doesnt matter that he went to study in USA and got american money. Money doesnt invent - people invent!
Use Google (invented by Russian Sergey Blin) to check that I am not lying.
He also became American. That's another American success story. Seems like just being American, even as an immigrant imbues you with God's favor. Truly, America is God's chosen nation.
>inventor of computer
Charles Babbage (first mechanical computer)? Sir William Thomson (first analog computer)? Konrad Zuse (first vacuum tube computer)? Alan Turing (Universal Computing Machine)? Zigger, take your fricking meds.
>Atanasoff was born on October 4, 1903, in Hamilton, New York to an electrical engineer and a school teacher.[6] Atanasoff's father, Ivan Atanasov, was of Bulgarian origin, born in 1876 in the village of Boyadzhik, close to Yambol, then in the Ottoman Empire.
lol
There was a solid 20 year gap between Sikorsky moving to the US and building his first helicopter, so it's rather silly for Russia or Ukraine to try to claim that.
>Vladimir Zworykin was born in Murom, Russia, in 1888 or 1889, to the family of a prosperous merchants.
tv inventor born in heart of russia
its okay, at least americans invented peanut butter and armored football
You just named another American. What don't you understand about this? Everyone worth a shit in Russia leaves as soon as possible. Nothing of value resides in Russia, especially your race of subhuman mongol rape babies.
ITT: pidoruski sperging about what the evil Ukro nationalists say in his head in thread without any of them.
Your psychosis is why its good thousands of you are dying horribly in Ukraine. Just give us your needy women and it will all be over, its not like they want you all with your fricking poverty and AIDS diagnosis.
There's some videos of it upclose online too
It looks completely burnt out from the inside
Like no pain or anything
https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1784560863975801251
Yeah, almost certainly scuttled when the crew bailed
Probably a white phosphorus grenade or something
they won't retrieve anything of value in here for electronics, they still have the frame, chassis, and weaponry tho.
let's see what they'll do with it in 10 years, if there's any russia left
"Captured" implies the vehicle is in some kind of operable state or could brought to an operable state by repairs.
This tank is 100% completely inoperable and could not be made operable even with American help repairing it.
I thought captured just meant you just took it
It means you took it in a state such that you could make use of it. If it's just detritus, it's not a capture. Like you if you picked up the discarded pin from an enemy grenade, you wouldn't say you captured it.
Or a better example, you capture enemy soldiers if you take them alive. If you're just bagging their bodies after the fight, you didn't "capture" anyone.
This comment is so funny because I know for a fact that if you saw footage of this being hit you would be saying that it's just disabled and could easily be repaired
Black person, the hull has peeled open like a can opener in multiple places and entire sections of it are missing.
The treads are completely gone, along with most of the road wheels.
The whole thing has been scorched by fire to the point that nearly all of the paint has burned off.
It's not a tank, it's a wreck.
damage to suspension doesn't matter
same with a missing track
but a busted hull is a complete write off
i'm gonna bet it was mobility killed - presumably by a mine and the scuttled by the crew
as if they don't know what the 120mm gun and M1A1 armor are capable of
>this comment is so funny because of this completely irrelevant bit that I just made up
This is your brain on krokodil.
not much of it left
Damn, she got hit hard. Was it a mine or something else?
>a tank was destroyed and fell behind the enemy's line of control
>in a full scale conventional war between nation states
oh, wow. color me shocked.
>destroyed abrams "captured"
Yeah they're dragging it to moscow apparently
>they're dragging it to moscow
How many mobiks will that take?
Surely this will accelerate russian tank development by decades
Iraq had abrams, I have no doubt russkies have everything that was accessible to iraqies
i love how russians treat 1 tank like they've slain a demigod.
i can already imagine all the russians in moscow staring at this thing in pure bewilderment.
they must feel like they just lifted a mountain, too bad for normal humans it's just a regular tank that happens to be better than anything russia fields.
It's not just one but 5 Abrams were destroyed in Berdychi. So in the coming days more Abrams will be towed back to Moscow since the town was recently completely taken over by the Russians.
>So in the coming days more Abrams will be towed back to Moscow since the town was recently completely taken over by the Russians.
Dude, which century do you live in? Napoleon has been dead a long time.
Russian losses last 24 hours and totals. Personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded.
28.04.2024
Tanks — 7279 (+11)
Armored fighting vehicle — 13991 (+20)
Artillery systems — 11948 (+43)
MLRS — 1050 (+1)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 776 (+1)
Planes — 348
Helicopters — 325
UAV — 9507 (+22)
Cruise missiles — 2124
Ships (boats) — 26
Submarines — 1
Trucks and Fuel Tankers — 16065 (+46)
Special equipment — 1971 (+3)
Military personnel — aprx. 466150 people (+1096)
You know everyone’s talking about APC depletion, but I want to know about artillery. That’s… really big numbers of lost artillery. How much can you lose before you stop being able to arty party effectively?
It includes everything down to mortars. But yes, 152mm standard pieces are getting distintly rarer these days while the Russians are rolling every oddball and leftover they can get to the front now if the detailed kill figures are anything to go by.
>Cruise missiles — 2124
Why are cruise missiles lumped in?
Copesint
>Special equipment — 1971 (+3)
ohh deere
Deere sucks
>Personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded.
Actually Ukraine has said that their liquidated count includes both killed and wounded
Posting before the thread gets deleted by thin skinned mods
>act like shitmonkey
>much oppression
where are those morons moving it exactly? It's not operable anyway
It's being transported to moscow to be on display, this is a big propaganda win for them, stupid piggers we never should've sent them Abrams.
I wouldn't be surprised to see it put on display in Red Square or something. We've already taken some of their destroyed stuff as trophies and put it on display. It's good propaganda
>It's good propaganda
It's embarrassing cringe. No first world country does this.
Germany and Poland did it [and that's a good thing]
Linking Lordbebo of all the homosexuals probably won't help.
oh no
now Russia can analyze a 50 year old tank design
your coworker already made a thread, report to your supervisor
There is literally no other thread about this
I checked before I posted
Yes there is Ramesh. No rupees for second place !
You're full of shit there's no other threads
Being called full of shit by a pajeet ! The rupees are lost. Back to the dung factory
Literally one thread you homosexuals are just morons
it's the only thread up RIGHT now, that's true.
Let the spam games...
begiiiiiiin
I swear to God I looked up the board before posting so I don't want to hear this being called spam
>the western media
all i saw was a bunch of articles saying "could"
also ignoring the fact that western media is there to get clicks and doesn't represent the media nor the government.
ziggers constantly talk about what western "media" is saying, but quite frankly nobody gives a shit about what western media is saying, it doesn't have any relevance, i don't have to defend them because they exist purely to get clicks and because journo's are the lowest form of human on this earth.
You may think that but western media is still a powerful tool. It's *our* tool and it shapes public opinion. Remember the campaign to allow Ukraine use of the leopard tank? That was extremely successful
i'm of the opinion that media was actually barely responsible for aid going to ukraine and they were going to get similar amounts whether people ignored it or not, but that's just me, i might be wrong about that.
cope
On an individual level they’re great but it’s still just one tank. The fact is the ZSU only got like 30 which is a joke
the 700+ lost T-80's have finally been avenged
5/31 Abrams destroyed, 16% attrition rate already.
Best pray they do not send 3100 out of storage just to make you look silly
>INB4 a bunch of ziggers start crying about the promises "western media" made like they're some single body controlled by the govt and not a bunch of money hungry losers with english majors that want people to look at their website.
There's currently more threads about lost Abrams on /k/ than total number of lost Abrams
There's one thread what are you guys on about I'm so fricking confused
there were others as well, but they were deleted.
does playing stupid ever work?
Not only media. All forums and like (including /k/ board) were constantly talking how Chobham armour is so much superior to cope Soviet ERA.
esl-kun please do the needful and redeem the English SAAR
Saved.
It is
That's why you subhuman c**ts are crowing about killing a single one of them
>"captured"
Look at the state of it.
Actually I think this might be tank #4 due to the more extensive fire damage on the the front and the turret turned left over the left track
https://twitter.com/RadarFennec/status/1773326329573773628
frick off moron.
Okay now show all the T-55's, T64's, T72's, T-80's, T-84's, Leopard 2's that Ukraine has lost, i'd ask for Challenger's too but i only know of a few confirmed loses so that number wouldn't really matter.
picture is also missing all the Russian T55/ 62 72 ...
>TWO (2) variants of the t-55 lost: M-55S
>407 t-64s lost
>235 t-72s lost
>57 t-80s lsot
>37 leopard 2s lost
>1 challenger 2 lost
>4 abrams lost
>52 unknown tanks lost
>total tanks lost: 797
Russia has lost more t-80s than Ukraine has lost tanks
You forgot PT tanks
Just a development of the t-72, same with the t-90 so it's dumb to group them in their own separate catagories.
Russia has lost more T-72s than tanks that Ukraine has ever owned.
and that 1 t-90 in Louisiana
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-tank-louisiana-sent-to-training-center-disarmed-report-pentagon-2023-4
Damaged and abandoned are pointless to include because Russia will just repair them.
How the frick will Russia get their abandoned vehicles back?
When they capture the territory? When Ukraine falls back Russia can then retake those vehicles.
>drops a grenade into an abandoned shitbox
Recover deez nuts, zigger.
I would unironically partake in a crowdfunding for a contract on this serb
>When Ukraine
*if
Also most abandoned vehicles from Russia are destroyed by Ukraine afterwards with drones and artillery.
omg i love his s.0.yfaces
dont you luv his s.0.yfaces zizter?
This gay paid moron has been making these gay thumbnails for 2 years now
Ziggers live through their weapons. Flexing their military might is the only way they can feel strong, so they project and think that's how we think of things.
Whereas the West just has a bottomless well of money and buying a replacement is an afterthought
>barrel thing that goes up
It is clearly a t-90, but I don't see the barrel autoloader action.
The tank fires a round, the gun recoils, the fume vent is opened and the barrel tips up into its loading position.
All of this happens before 0:02 in the video.
This vid? You can see the shell ejection door open and shit out a shell. It's a T90M.
What's the point of parading half-destroyed tank? Just take some pictures and flood Telegram with it for a week.
>Russians acting like killing some basic b***h M1 is some huge victory when terrorist gays have been doing it for decades
If it's the export model, it really isn't
This isn't the export model, these are straight from DOD stocks.
nobody said that Z-tards
Pretty sure I remember LARP threads on /k/ how single Abrams with infinite ammo can defeat entire 3rd Reich if teleported there.
sure you do Ivan
americans always sucked their own dicks and claimed the Abhrams was so much better than the challenger 2
yet we see less chally 2 losses compared to american tanks
Challengers weren’t on the front lines. An interview with a challenger crew just dropped and they said they can’t store enough ammo in the load rack for offensive operations and that it was too heavy to use in most places
>it was too heavy to use in most places
They also said the T-64, T-72, and T-80 suffer the exact same bogging issue. They're operating them in pairs - one equipped with EW to neutralize drones/FPVs - and they're putting in good work in defensive ops.
>The western media treated these tanks like demigods moron
give us a single example of it
>xaxaxaxa T-90M better than weak wectoid tan-ACK
I remember this WEBM was posted in a thread as if it was an Abrams, and I pointed out that it couldn't be the Abrams because of the automatic barrel tilt up thing that it did that only autoloaders do.
And then everyone in the thread got really angry and started calling me names.
Good times.
Hey, good on you for mentioning that, I was the one that posted the webm
so the tilt was the clue and not spontaneous vaporization?
how le funny xD would it be if they just packed one of these full of explosives and blew it up when it reaches a reverse engineering lab, or even better, when it's in the middle of a crowded display, like a good ol' trojan horse?
I assume deminers do an inspection of destroyed vehicles before it ever gets to a lab
You know what they say about assuming.
it makes an ass which is in the ass.
extremely, sadly explosives occupy space
>meanwhile in reality
Not sure is Russia or UK.
It's obviously Russia from the commie blocks in the background and the Babushkas in cold weather clothing.
But yes I'm sure 2 more weeks until the Bongs freeze eating the hamsters.
>Bongs freeze eating the hamsters
Don't give them any ideas.
It's from a propaganda piece they did the first winter with the "XAXAXA Europe will freeze" before Europe had a really mild winter.
https://twitter.com/ruinwanderer/status/1743745485213470832
I have this problem all the time. I swear they are the same ethnicity. British and Russian people look so similar and the weather and backgrounds always look so similar as well.
Its the alcoholism.
I already said this in the /misc/ thread but your delusional if you think Russia, China, Iran, etc will be able to glean any information from these burnt husks that isn't known already.
You're right they're just monkey models without the real goodies such as the DU armor/rounds, modern FCS etc.
For me, the proof that we needn't worry about vatniks learning anything from our vehicles is ironically enough, the existence of decent MoD demonstrators.
Even when the few remaining Russoid brains come up with good designs, the oligarchs say hell no, I can't sail the Mediterranean on that, take a hike.
It's been nearly a decade; if they haven't broken ground to make these by now, they literally never will.
Bullshit government projects that are extremely expensive and promising that go on forever because its a perfect method for embezzling money and graft is Putin keeps his partners the oligarchs sailing the mediterranean. Those demonstrators are serving their true purpose wonderfully.
>It's been nearly a decade; if they haven't broken ground to make these by now, they literally never will.
Outdated.
Recent military experience shows it's new meta.
Turtle tank is new hot.
>this is a massive propaganda win for the ziggers
It's an average, vanilla propaganda win. Ukraine is littered with destroyed vehicles from both sides. They aren't hard to recover. A massive propaganda win would be if they captured a depot or something and had a bunch of them they could drive in the parade.
>A massive propaganda win would be if they captured a depot or something and had a bunch of them they could drive in the parade.
Oooooh that would be so fricking bad if it were to actually happen kek.
yeah me too cumrad, also my pic is DC USA
An actual propaganda victory for the russians is them capturing one of the "meme" weapons like the HIMARs but those are far from frontline while the Ukrainians have captured most of the good shit from the russians.
There's two wars at play here, a propaganda war where Ukraine is convincing the west to give it more weapons and the war war where those weapons get used to fight Russia.
It's in Ukraine's interest to play up the impact weapons will have before they reach the battlefield. To convince the West to send more. And in Russia's interest to play down the impact they'll have to convince the West to send less
Most western countries loathe Russia now and hope it loses so the propaganda isn't necessary to convince the West to send weapons
>this is a massive propaganda win
Remember when Russians captured CV90 and...turned out that this propaganda win didn't give them anything?
that was last summer right? 1 week of spam and threads that were made in bad faith and then everyone forgot about it.reminds me of that time when russians shot a missile at a harvester because they somehow mistok that for a leopard 2.ziggers only live in the present and the past&future are strange concepts for them.
>that time when russians shot a missile at a harvester because they somehow mistok that for a leopard 2
jej, good times
CV90s are barely known outside tank autists unlike the Abrams which is the MBT that "won" Desert Storm and appeared in so many Documentaries, movies and videogames.
Russia's victory day parade is going to have more NATO vehicles than Russian ones.
Better bust out the T-34s again
Didn't they already bring some old WW2 Marder from Kubinka?
How long until we see these same displayed HAFO weapons fighting for the russians?
>the west has fallen!
>western tech has a bigger presence in the parade than their own
That's gonna be weird
>destroying an enemy tank now constitutes a major propaganda win
Is this really the biggest occasion? I could get celebrating taking out all of the Abrams sent or capturing a fully functional top of the line M1A2 SEPv3 but taking out 5 basic b***h M1A1s doesn't sound all that crazy or impressive. Are they gonna hoot and holler when a single F16 gets shot down too?
M1A1s won Desert Storm whilst SEPv3 has only faced goat herders and wouldn't have fared any better against FPV drones that hit MBTs from above.
>f16
Remember when a usa drone was downed by russian pilots? That but worse
Oh, god. That was an awful week. Thirdies wouldn't shut up about how the one drone was beginning of the end of the American empire.
Is that the one where they made a poopoo peepee Pepe/Broly Culo edit?
Yes, they need a distraction for their population so they spend valuable time and money on this dumbass propaganda. You don't see the US or the West as whole celebrating that Russia has lost over 100 T-90s.
>M1A1s won Desert Storm
HUNDREDs of M1A1s were in Desert Storm with air cover and supporting armored vehicles. Not 30.
>hundreds
Imagine the shitshow russia would have to deal with if ukraine got as many m1a1s as russia had tanks
Would hundreds of M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams tanks "secret sauce" DU armor plates with supporting vehicles and air support will save them from getting destroyed by FPV drones striking them from above? As this war in Ukraine has FPV drones can wipe out an entire mechanized column without caring what type of vehicle you are since they always strike from above.
Those hundreds of tanks would get support from the air force and an electronic warfare unit. Drones have become so prominent because the sky in Ukraine is contested
>Fighter jets would somehow be able to protect ground units from FPV and quadcopter drones
Where did he say fighters?
every military is watching what is happening now and developing technologies to deal with the proliferation of drones
> every military is watching what is happening now and developing technologies to deal with the proliferation of drones
US has had robust anti-drone tech and training deployed for a decade now. The Asymmetric Warfare Group identified drones a threat in 2015, prior to their heavy use by ISIS, and so the US was able to integrate training and EW counter-measures well before they came into contact with ISIS drones in Iraq. All that isn’t to say that the US isn’t doing more research about how to defeat larger swarms or make anti-drone measure more robust in a peer conflict, but it is to say that the US had identified drones as an issue in warfare well before the war in Ukraine ever started.
>moving the goalpost
>As this war in Ukraine has FPV drones can wipe out an entire mechanized column
Because Russia sends them into FPV areas with no jammers and they drive through minefields. A lot of columns being destroyed are half Ukies killing them and half Ruskie incompetence.
Russians, Germans and Brits hate each other so much it's unreal.
We don't hate the Germans outside of football. But, I wish the apocalypse on Russia and its people.
Tank armor being thinner on top =!= being nonexistent
I seriously doubt run of the mill FPV frickers with mortar shells would be able to drop fully outfitted Abrams
You know this guy is a fricking moron arguing in bad faith because he doesn't realize most footage of FPV drones are them taking out tanks after they've been damaged or abandoned due to mines, artillery fire and ATGMs.
The biggest RU armored collumns in this war have been taken out with minimal FPV drone use.
It's not like we haven't done it. The Germans put a wrecked russkie tank in front of the Russian embassy in Berlin
If they hurry up they can still make it for the victory day parade.
how did they manage this when they're using golfcarts and shovels?
>A burnt out husk of a Western tank is worth more effort recovering than a damaged Russian example
>That burnt out husk will be considered a trophy while there's no more pristine domestic examples to show in parades
no one treats it like that except ziggers. you need some serious context here. the way russia is fighting this war isn't how modern warfare is fought. russians are incompetent shit heads that can't even into basic combined arms never mind sead. russians are fighting a trench war against the poorest country in europe. that's the reality. a serious military would achieve aerial supremacy then roll in the tanks and have them be supported by air as they mop up the rest of the territory. this artillery spam, using tanks to move the front, it's an aberration, a live action museum piece of the early 20th century. it's a joke, russia is a joke. the west is a joke letting russia do this shit
>"newest" russian tank captured
>a few photos of it in the middle of nowhere, no one cares really
>"newest" western tank captured
>big media propaganda campaign about epic victory over inferior HATO tech
>no one cares really
because it's nothing
damn i'd love a boxing match against one of you pajeets, even two or three of you since you are subhuman manlets lmao
Oh boy are you gonna laugh when you see this media hype up then.
I must know if this is real. Please link the original broadcast. Because I want so bad for it to be real!
>for that level of cringe
>he doesn't know about the Wagner game
Don't watch Anon. You'll die from cringe overload.
name?
Hell's Best
unreal. I needed the laugh thanks
What are your thoughts about the Russian Wagner video game with the Russian Orthodox bullshit in it?
Literally never heard of it until now. Stop being so fricking autistic
We are at a point where taking a wrecked western vehicle is considered a propaganda victory for Russia, and the browns are celebrating and spamming /k/.
It’s possible Russia’s losing harder than we think they’re losing. I mean, was there any external indication when Germany was going to shatter entirely in WW1?
You can never know for sure when it comes to totalitarian regimes, time will tell.
They are busy putting cope nets on their refineries, which is at least a clear indicator that their AA is so shit that even their critical infrastructure is in peril.
They are indeed on production deficit on, well, everything, but one cannot infer how bad things really are out of that thing alone.
>cope nets on refineries
That… doesn’t seem feasible.
50 years old wreck for puccia is top tech tier shit, this is perfectly understandable.
>It (insert age) so it doesn't matter
The F-22 is almost 30. Should we just hand it over to the Chinese right now?
They probably knows already a lot about the F-22 already, question is can they make a plane like the F-22? It seems obvious like they can, same for vatniks, they lack the engineering brains, the materials and tech, So at the end of the day it doesn't matter. As an example the M142 is a relatively simple MRLS system, why russia nor china can make their own version with a comparable level of precision and effectiveness?
>a whole six villages
it's yvir
That billion dollar counter offensive captured 4 so I don't want to hear that lmao
We have two cities on the brink of falling and you want to meme
>we have two cities on the brink of falling
Is this about Belogrod?
>Is this about Belogrod?
It will not fall, it will just become a Belgorod People's Republic.
Chavis Yar and Krasnohorivka
I don't get why you all think this is funny
Every village lost, every city captured is a bad thing.
>Chasiv Yar
>Krasnogorivka
>cities
Holy moron.
Yes
City. What are you a fricking moron?
Both of these are considered cities in Ukraine
Sorry not everything is fricking Dallas
So fricking arrogant all of you
Disingenuous pidor, there is only one word for a settlement that's above village level in Ukrainian, "мicтo", which can refer to anything, from a small town to a megapolis. Unlike English, in which there are distinct words "town" and "city". have a nice day.
24 more of those and it will make up for the forever russian city of Kherson
>population 12 thousand
>city
What fricking shithole are you from?
>Chasiv Yar
Fricking hell I just realized Russia has not reached even 10km away from Bakhmut...
Also, those are small sub-15k towns. Barely not-villages.
How many more years before they take the whole oblast?
2 centuries
Those were town-sized settlements before the war (they're ghost towns now), and they are strategically worthless, just like Avdiivka and Robotyne (there I said it, are you happy now zigger?).
>Ten years into the Donbabwe rebellion
>Russia still has not fully captured Luhansk or Donetsk regions
They probably will soon. Not much left.
But they've since annexed other oblasts, so it's hard to stop the war.
>They probably will soon. Not much left.
I'm assuming they'll finally have full control of the two regions in two weeks, is that right?
Unironically yes. They will push hard for Victory day.
So Russians are going to be ramping up assault right as Ukrainian is to receive support from the US?
I can't fricking wait, kino's back on the menu boys!
Right before*
Yes. Best time for it.
You know, this is exactly what you lot said would happen the last two years of Victory Days. What makes this year any different?
The ukraine has no guns and ammo, because of western political demobilization. They will continue to retreat for weeks until the next deliveries come.
Works cited:
Damn bro that's crazy
Here's an unrelated map from February 2023
>no flags
Figures, just more waves upon waves with no meaningful change in the frontline.
The soviets didn't lose 75% of their armor during the winter war.
And yet with no guns and ammo they're still slaughtering 900 to a thousand pidors a day, really makes me think Puccia isn't actually fricking pathetic, lmao
Pyrrhic victories are still victories l.
Russia won the Winter war against Finland too, despite memes.
The definition of a Pyrrhic victory is a victory so costly that it would have been better never to have been fought.
Well then by your definition its not Pyrrhic victory, its just normal regular victory
Because Russia took half Finland industry, mines, big port, population. And now will take half Ukraine industry, big port, population. And your leaders will tell DEEEP CONCERN and DENOUNCE!!!! Denounce Axis of Evil!!!!! And 10 years later will come to buy oil and gas.
VatBlack person, make up your fricking mind. Are you "taking" or "destroying" ukie industry? Because so far you've only been destroying factories in towns you take. And good luck demining agricultural land.
>big port
Lmao, Neptune and drone boats send their regards.
>population
It took you 20 years to subjugate Chechnya, even if you by some fricking miracle manage to capture clay, you'll have to abandon it due to insurgencies all over the place.
>alf Finland industry, mines, big port, population. And now will take half Ukraine industry, big port, population.
Your ESL hurts in so many ways.
Nowadays Finland would decline getting Karelia back. You turned it into shit.
>Unrelated political twitter screencap meme from /misc/
Go back
>And now will lose Crimea, several million people, its economy, its reputation, its dignity and its army
FTFY.
-the Soviet Union partially won the Winter War against a far more isolated and weaker Finland*
And did that victory actually gain anything?
>They will continue to retreat for weeks
So the russians will make it halfway to Kramatorsk at last?
2 more weeks
Which two cities are those?
>Russia is wasting thousands of lives and resources for completely blown-out, depopulated villages.
>Ukraine is wasting thousands of lives and resources for completely blown-out, depopulated villages.
Why are they like this?
One is defending from an invader who wants to subjugate you
One wants to repopulate the lands with mongoloids
Let's say Russia somehow manages to capture both Kramatorsk and Sloviansk before 2025, then what? Ukraine will be armed with f-16s by then so it will be completely impossible for Russia to advance if they somehow managed to capture those cities.
Bro Houthis in Yemen can shoot down F-16s
That means dick
Unconfirmed
Is Kherson still Russian forever?
>russia captures six villages in 2 years
3 days to kiev
Come back to me when ukraine has captured a village.
It's been almost a year since they've liberated their own villages
thanks for accepting they're ukrainian
What is this obsession about villages? Is this some sentimental rural thing? There is literally nothing left where they stood.
kiev next week (again)
oh NO not the heckin 3000 person (pre-war) villages
Russia gains nothing from these completely blown out, depopulated villages.
In fact its a lost since Russia AT LEAST loses thousands of soldiers and vehicles for these villages.
Congratulations. 🙂
7km rotation frickup is now considered a victory for World's Second Army.
Do you say out loud the sentences before you write them? Do you realize how bad things you say sound?
So what does this accomplish for Russia in terms of their stated goals for the SMO?
Ehhh so many replies and no one even tried to speculate what kind of armor hides behind the UKR markings.
good find anon. Is it normal for additions to be marked?
Every armor type has different letter assigned. For example HAP-(1-3) armor is on tanks marked with U.
Yeah
why are the ziggers obsessed with the abrahams?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DIOS MIO #6!
>Turtle Tank
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE
>"Fell in a hole" is back
Oh no, not the 1970s technology
it's over NATO brothers and sisters we MUST surrender now
>lost 6 villages in a week
wait, you last cope was that it was a whole 6 kilometers!
now it's six whole villages?
It shall join the leo.
Getting tired of the pidors picking up destroyed or heavily damaged tanks and saying they "captured it".
>Russia's SMO goals: Remove the Ukrainian governtment and stop the expansion of NATO
>Result: Ukraine's government intact and its populace hates Russians, NATO gained two members
This truly is "victory". I'm sure those sanctions will be lifted any day now.
Victory is returning Russian colonies back to Russia, that were given away by political mistake in moment of weakness. Lugansk, Donbasin and Crima already taken. Rest of Black sea coast taken soon. All cities founded by Russia, much population Russian. Russian history there, these lands can't be abandoned. And connect to Moldova enclave of Russians also.
This means biggest Black sea power, means challenge Turkey, help Armenia. Means can force open Bosphorous, connect to the ocean, help friendly Arab countries. Counter US hegemony over Europa. Good for everyone European.
>Rest of Black sea coast taken soon. All cities founded by Russia, much population Russian. Russian history there, these lands can't be abandoned. And connect to Moldova enclave of Russians also.
Delusional, this requires a massive naval presence and the Russians are unable to stop suicide boats so how tf will they stop modern anti ship missiles?
There is a fundamental lie in your recollection of history; It was never Russian territory, it was Soviet Union territory.
All that land was given away by the Soviet Union, it never belonged to Russia in the first place.
Schroeder Soviet. People claim russia is not the soviet union and the soviet union actions/fear should not transfer to russia. At the same time, the soviet is russia and the russians are the rightful heirs to the soviet union and its history. People only decided to not associate the soviets with russia whenever it is negative.
>american education
1. USSR is Russia under different name.
2. Russian tzardom ruled all this land and more than USSR.
3. Russia started in that place, Kiev was first Russian capital.
>Russian tzardom
is not Russia. The Russian Federation is a contemporary larp, about 50 years old.
Meanwhile USSR was a German intelligence operation due to their successful funding of Lenin.
There is no "Russia". "Russia" is a cosntruct made up by a group of uncivilized barbarian tribes and mongol rape babies. It has no history, no culture, no legacy, no legitimacy and no claim to anything.
Kyiv was the first ukrainian capital, of the Ukrainians, an actual people and culture, unlike the barbarous scum that call themselves "russian". Frick off, you nekulturny pidor.
>Russian tzardom ruled all this land and more than USSR.
The Russian Empire never ruled Galicia.
>USSR is Russia under different name.
All prominent Bolsheviks were israeli.
>Russia started in that place, Kiev was first Russian capital.
That was Novgorod in the Russian North. It was a Scandinavian state and not a Slavic one.
>It was never Russian territory
What is now Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire and split between multiple oblasts
The Soviet Union unified it under the Ukranian SSR and annexed more land to it
Yes, and then the Soviet Union granted Ukraine independence.
Funny how in this timeline of events Russia is never mentioned.
The Ukrainian SSR became independent when the Soviet Union collapsed, like the other SSRs
Which means that it literally never belonged to Russia.
Case dismissed.
>What is now Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire and split between multiple oblasts
"What is now Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire, please ignore any stretches of history prior or after Empire when that wasn't the case"
I'm starting to think these type of posts have to be bait, no one can be this moronic.
>I'm starting to think these type of posts have to be bait, no one can be this moronic.
Actual brown/Russian multipolarists often are this moronic, you're just used to talking to contrarian westerners.
That one is trolling 100%
>Help Armenia
[Abandons CSTO military alliance obligations]
Means Russia will only bully others when it feels safe in doing so, made a huge miscalculation in Ukraine, and turned a reversible mistake into a life-or-death struggle (which will see Russia die.)
Feed more untrained men and tankenstein armor to the grinder, breakthrough in just two more weeks. Glory awaits the motherland, comrade.
ENGLISH, IVAN, DO YOU SPEAK IT?
Buddy, don't talk to me about that shit, I play EUIV, I know more about Eurasian politics than Putin does.
>At the end of the 18th century, the Russian Empire captured large uninhabited steppe territories from the former Crimean Khanate.
>Nearly all of the major cities of southern and eastern Ukraine were established in this period: Aleksandrovsk (now Zaporizhzhia; 1770), Yekaterinoslav (now Dnipro; 1776), Kherson and Mariupol (1778), Sevastopol (1783), Simferopol and Novoaleksandrovka (Melitopol) (1784), Nikolayev (Mykolaiv; 1789), Odesa (1794), Lugansk (Luhansk; foundation of Luhansk plant in 1795).
You know this?
Anon, a bunch of those cities were settled by Greeks. Some date to the Paleolithic era. What the frick.
I copy and paste from american wikipedia, everyone knows who makes these cities. Some greek tombs on a hill 5 km away is not a city.
This was empty space, because tatars only know slave trade and raiding, and space was left empty and not worked. Russia comes, drains swamp (metaphor and also real swamp wetlands) and sends russian farmers to work the land and form cities. This is russian wild, wild west. This is russian cowboy movies, and songs, and poetry and romanticism. This is poor people moving west to get free land and make a living and find bright future. Its our birthright.
>reality doesn't matter when I want it to mean something else
yeah, you're russian
>Digs up historical documents hundreds of years old to prove a point
>Ignores the very recent event where those lands were given away
You do know that happened, right?
It's some sovereign citizen schizobabble logic
>Ackshually Mr. Police Officer, according to the Articles of Confederation and the Magna Carta, I don't need a drivers license since I am representing myself as an independent agent and not as a person or other legal incorporated entity
>NO YOU CAN'T ARREST ME, I DO NOT CONSENT TO BEING ARRESTED SO YOU CAN'T!
>Russians are invaders.
Yes, so?
Holy repostbatman
This glowie actually doxxed himself. Do we actually have unironic FSBgays shitting up the board? I thought it was indians/morons doing it for free?
How new?
I know it, but usually i just see thirdies and some expats in euro/american country. Never realized it was someone from Moscow.
>ESL
Yeah, so if you homosexuals could go fight on some slavic forum. That would be nice.
I don't speak slavrunes, morono.
Ya dont speak english. So if you could frick off that would be great.
I could clearly speak it now. You complain about my English skills, but yet don't know how to use commas.
I dont post from Moscow. Look at timezone maps moron.
I am telling you that you send 60 billion dollars for nothing. It is correct and right that Russia rules that land on the Black sea coast, you are spending money for wrong cause and it will not be allowed. Meanwhile your own south border has no funds to stop aztec invasion. Bad planning of your spending and economy, all your industry goes to China and all your money goes to Europe and you are left with nothing.
Leave this matter to us to resolve in Europe and stop paying europeans to go die fighting a lost cause. Go solve your own problems with that money.
The money is just to kill Russians anon. It's never been about land for the west. It is for Russia. That's the difference. We value life.
Ivan, 80% of the money "sent to Ukraine" is spent in the US, on the US economy.
We build a bunch of new tanks and missiles, and we send all of the old ones we already have, it's a great system.
>I am telling you that you send 60 billion dollars for nothing
As an accountant, all of what you said is just buzzwords. First of all, its 60 billion in hard assets. Those assets are already been made and paid for. The money that goes towards replacing them goes to american industry. I hate Black folk like you who just flail around monetary value as if it means anything.
>exposed fsbBlack person doubles down
Love to see it.
I am not government worker, I am patriot like you.
I want Russia first and you want America first. Its not meme, its material reality. If you go after your own best interest and mind your business, we go after our own interest and mind our own business. We never attack you in Americas. We even give up Cuba already.
World is big enough for Russia, China, Iran, America to be separate. Leave Europe and go do your politics in Americas.
Our democracy, free speech, troops have been Putin in danger because of Putin for 20 years. This doesn't end until he's gone. The killing will only speed up.
This war will see a correction of the mistake the West made in 1945, the continued allowance of a Russian state as a military power.
May your corrupt nation, its willfully ignorant people, and its interpretation of history join those of its former allies the Third Reich. Every European will sleep soundly when Moscow is ash.
>I am patriot like you.
Stop talking like Borat you piece of garbage.
>I want Russia first
That makes you a moron. You people have barely gotten used to deoderant, and now you want to invade countries. We will make you sit on a bottle for decades instead. Your daughters will be paying off the rebuilding bill in legal brothels from Berlin to Nevada, for decades.
My daughters will travel to London and Paris with russian flag patch on their backpacks and people will greet them, because when USA gets out of Europe people will remember their real friends and who fights for them against Hitler and Napoleon and Ottoman.
Your daughters will suck mexican gangster penis for fentanyl and scream extasy in spanish. Ukraine is Vietnam 2 and you keep spending and keep rusting.
Top Gun is more cringe.
>Ukraine is Vietnam 2
Yeah, for Russia, but far far worse.
Europe hates you, and it isn’t the US that makes us hate you.
Even with USA spending billions dollars on propaganda and to hate Russia people in Europa still vote for Russia friendly parties in parlaiments.
Every country has Russia friendly party growing in votes. America friendly liberast LGBT parties all losing in votes every election. When you stop spending money they disappear. NOBODY HERE LIKES YOU. Go back to America and take your money and guns to America and go fight Mexico and Canada. Leave us alone!
I’m not a burger. I’m telling you we despise you and this time no one is going to feed you when your country collapses and famine once again rules in the land of Muscovy. Your propaganda won’t save you.
>NOBODY HERE LIKES YOU.
Your not European, frick off.
God isn't real.
I am European. Everyone here hates you subhuman steppe barbarians. Deal with it.
>God isn't real.
Then it's America's will, which is the next closest thing.
*Germany's will
Ahhh so it's American.
>Gott ist töt
Imaginary Wizard Man Flicking Bathwater on Dirty Obelisk of Generalismus Staaaleeen.
Bro. Americans will just find Ukrainians to kill Russians until Putin is gone then rebuild Russia.
Some other Europeans are a little more extreme. Indians want this to go on forever. Same with the Chinese. Americans don't hate Russians. We want Putin gone so he's not doing his crap with our elections, misinformation, troll farms, hacking crap, running Russia into the ground and being a general shit to neighbors. It will be like a light switch with Americans once he's gone. Everyone else not so much
Such projection. At the end of the day, the alt-righters that you have funded bit the hand that fed them. Europe is solidly behind Ukraine. The more important countries even more solidly.
>My daughters will travel to London and Paris with russian flag patch on their backpacks and people will greet them,
I can promise you that we will not. That is what they will tell you over the phone between doing 10 guys in the FKK
>Ukraine is Vietnam 2
Yeah, for Russia, but far far FAR worse.
LMAO. Europe hates you subhuman, uncultured barbarous scum far more so than the Americans do. Try bringing your daughters to London or Paris. They will be spat upon and beaten.
>and who fights for them against Hitler
So the British and Americans, who had to bail out your incompetent asses and win the war for you.
Nice comedy. Maybe we should hire this guy as a court jester?
>Top Gun is more cringe.
Not that I have any investment in Top Gun (?), but it actually isn't. Parading around a broken tank is comical to first world countries. It's not surprising that you don't know this, Vatnik.
Is this war really in the best interest of Russia? Or is it the interest of Vova in staying in power?
You are subhuman, and it is in our best interest to see you and the shitty backwater you call a country destroyed.
Okay we invent chemistry, spacetravel, helicopter, television... you invent hamburger and bbc porno, wooopy wooopy kaye boyscout yankeeee haaaaaww
World without you is better world everyone in Europa knows this
>Okay we invent chemistry, spacetravel, helicopter, television
Inventions made in the soviet union half a century ago doesn't suddenly make Russia some 1st world country.
>wooopy wooopy kaye boyscout yankeeee haaaaaww
I'm starting to think your just some baiting moron.
Russians invented hapas by competition chugging Mongolian semen.
It's called Russian Throat Singing
>we invent chemistry
Lolno
You are worthless beings and your destruction is God's will.
>pol buzzwords
>BBC obsession
>"haha USA so weak"
>"USA is threatening us"
>"USA is actually our brother, the world is big enough for both of us"
Real Vatnik SchiZo Hours.
What 70 years of Hegelian dialectics does to a man...
>Okay we invent chemistry
No, that's msotly Brits and Germans.
>spacetravel
More Germans.
>helicopter
That was a Ukrainian.
>television
That was a Brit.
Try again, nekulturny barbarian. Your vile pit od scum trying to ape civilization has not, cannot and will never invent anything. All your kind cna do is steal and pervert.
NTA but didn't Sikorsky say he's a Russian by heart in one of his letters?
And yet he lived in America.
Also, if you wanna be cute, the inventor of the helicopter as a concept would be Leonardo da Vinci, the word itself was coined by a Frenchman who made the first actually engine-powered model and the first manned helicopter prototype took flight in 1901, built by a German.
>chemistry
Antoine Lavoisier
>Space
Germans
>Helicopter
Hermann Ganswindt (German)
>television
Baird (Scot)
>Europa
You are not European.
Sikorsky created the first practical helicopter.
He lived in the Soviet Union, but today he would be Ukrainian, so he isn't even a Russian no matter how you try to slice it
Before or after he had to flee?
He didn't invent it. He studied and was born in Ukraine, ans left as soon as he could to join the US. That's an American success story right there.
>Sergei Korolev was born in the city of Zhytomyr, the capital of Volhynian Governorate of the Russian Empire, on 12 January 1907
typical german name
ukraine is part of russia and he was russian like he says
>ukraine is part of russia
Clearly not, as evidenced by the two-year-long 3-day special military operation.
Should we tell him that Russia is a rightful part of Mongolia?
>Korolev
Aka the guy riding on the coattails of german science and work.
There is no such thing as a "Russia" outside the delusions of babrbarous steppe tribals like (YOu), and hence Ukraine cannot be "part" of it.
Sikorsky was Ukrainian. And he didn't invent the helicopter, either. Deal with it, barbarian.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky
>He was the youngest of five children. His father, Ivan Alexeevich Sikorsky, was a professor of psychology in Saint Vladimir University (now Taras Shevchenko National University), a psychiatrist with an international reputation, and an ardent Russian nationalist.
>Igor Sikorsky was an Orthodox Christian.
>When questioned regarding his roots, he would answer: "My family is of Russian origin. My grandfather and other ancestors from the time of Peter the Great were Russian Orthodox priests."
>WE WUZ SIKORSKY AN SHIET
You're still describing an American. Noce try, though.
have a nice day, zigger.
> After the Russian Revolution in 1917, Igor Sikorsky fled his homeland in early 1918, because the Bolsheviks threatened to shoot him for being "the Tsar's friend and a very popular person".
Lmao, like all intelligent Russians and future Soviets, he fled because the country was a dangerous shithole. He moved to the US precisely because it was a mecca for aviation, seeing as how the Wright brothers inventions are what propelled Sikorsky into aviation in the first place.
>After World War I, Igor Sikorsky briefly became an engineer for the French forces in Russia, during the Russian Civil War.[35] Seeing little opportunity for himself as an aircraft designer in war-torn Europe, and particularly Russia, ravaged by the Bolshevik Revolution and Russian Civil War, he emigrated to the United States, arriving in New York on March 30, 1919.
Lol, lmao even. Sikorsky is an American success story through and through, just like all of our scientists when they had to flee their shitholes for the peace, prosperity, and access to funds that only the US could provide.
Pidorashka can't grasp the idea of becoming American. This concept, like success and coitus other than rape, will elude him as it has the rest of his subhuman brethren. Russia had the same chance to be great, but they have squandered it time and time again. He will never understand why all these people find success only as Americans, in spite of their place of origin. America itself has made this possible.
This is because Russia subscribes to the concept of dominating people. If you were Ukrainian, you are Russian. If you were Serbian, you were Russian. If you were Czech, you were Russian. Anything formerly under the Soviet Union is "Russian" to them. They cannot fathom the idea that identities change to the host nation most favorable to the person. Nobody would actually want to be Russian if they had control of it, so Russians desperately need to force that identity on people.
honestly russians ukrainians and belarussians are basically the same thing. however extending that to anything beyond that like czechs poles or estonians is completely wrong.
You can see it in the way that they talk about any former Warsaw Pact or Eastern Bloc countries, though. Remember that even East Germany was technically its own state within the bloc but we all know that the Soviet Union controlled it, and any other eastern bloc country, pretty heavily. When they say something is Russian, they mean "it belongs to us." These are the same vatBlack person who still lay claim to Poland.
i understand what you mean. all i was trying to say is the moron trifecta is essentially the same nation in language culture and history so at least that makes sense. the rest of their claims is complete nonsense though.
>Moving the goalposts
First he was Ukrainian
Now he is American
Everything to deny he was Russian lol
He was American doing work inbAmerica with other Americans. That's undeniable.
Sikorsky is an American, b***h.
>Okay we invent chemistry
Chemistry was invented when Russia wasn't even a concept
>helicopter
Didn't know Da Vinci was a Russian.
You invented nothing, no amount of "We wuz sovietz an shiet" will change that.
All built under the Soviet Union (Which most Ukrainians say is just Russia)
By that logic China invented the Iphone because they are assembled there
What has independent Ukraine built?
>Which most Ukrainians say is just Russia
They don't and it wasn't.
>What has independent Ukraine built?
A grave for Russians to finally die in.
>All built under the Soviet Union
>WE WUZ SOVIETZ
kek
>The Soviet Union was ran by Russians and we hate it!
>Russians are the cause of every problem in Ukraine!
>Those tanks designed by ethnic Russians working for the red army in factory set up by Stalin? well they are actually UKRAINIAN
Who are you quoting?
>Who are you quoting?
Ukrainian Nationalists who hate the Soviet Union but wewuz it's acomplishments
>Soviet Union was ran by Russians
>Ran by
You can have things that are yours ran by someone else at the top. That doesn't mean they did your work. It can mean that you were not compensated for your work, as was the case in the USSR. If Russians were so great, they wouldn't be where they are now. Russians are losers by design. It is a mercy to exterminate them.
>You can have things that are yours ran by someone else at the top. That doesn't mean they did your work
You can't call it your acomplishment if the only reason you worked on it is because the people someone else at the top designed it and told you to
It's like saying MacDonalds is Mexican because they pay Mexicans to cook their Hamburguers
>You can't call it your acomplishment
You can.
>designed it and told you to
Only did one of those.
>Only did one of those.
They did both
All of those were designed by the Soviets
Some of those designers were Russians (Koshkin, Morozov)
The Ukrainian ones were still working for the Red Army (Most Ukrainian nationalists would call them traitors if they did not want to wewuz)
Ukrainian nationalists in that period did not achieve anything; their failed rebellion probably killed more Poles than Russians
Ukraine has not built anything like that since it left the Soviet Union
>the Soviets
Yeah, of which Ukraine was.
>Some of those designers were Russians
Keyword: some.
>Shifting the goal posts by claiming he's only talking about nationalists.
Kek. You're a failure.
Remember on Star Trek when Chekov claimed Scotch was invented in Leningrad? Yeah
Did you know Christopher Columbus was Russian?
>Russian-Ottoman
This is the kind of historical frickery only produced in a nation that would have been raped by both powers. So where in the Caucasus did this come from?
Neither Iran nor Russia are powerful enough to make those demands.
Why is a Russian "patriot" not on the frontline?
Why haven't the jannies banned this fricking moron already?
>Igor Sikorsky was born in Kiev, Russia on May 25, 1889.
loooooooooooooool american education again
alright serious question
the m1 has been exported around the globe for decades
are you really expecting me to believe that russia is so massively incompetent at intel gathering that they haven't been able to examine one in all that time? same thing with the javelin, how is it that china and india have made copies of that thing before russia has even started development?
>Dmitri Mendeleev was born in the village of Verkhnie Aremzyani, near Tobolsk in Siberia, on 8 February 1834
nooooooooo it was some germans! germans invent everything always everytime!
Sikorsky is neither Ukrainian nor Russian.
He's American, and yes that means the German scientists who built the first space rockets were American and Russian.
John Atanasoff inventor of computer is also russian btw
Doesnt matter that he went to study in USA and got american money. Money doesnt invent - people invent!
Use Google (invented by Russian Sergey Blin) to check that I am not lying.
He also became American. That's another American success story. Seems like just being American, even as an immigrant imbues you with God's favor. Truly, America is God's chosen nation.
Actual inventor of the computer is the germna Konrad Zuse. Try again, nekulturny barbarian.
you mean israeli
>inventor of computer
Charles Babbage (first mechanical computer)? Sir William Thomson (first analog computer)? Konrad Zuse (first vacuum tube computer)? Alan Turing (Universal Computing Machine)? Zigger, take your fricking meds.
>John Atanasoff
Atanasoff was born on October 4, 1903, in Hamilton, New York to an electrical engineer and a school teacher.[6]
>Atanasoff was born on October 4, 1903, in Hamilton, New York to an electrical engineer and a school teacher.[6] Atanasoff's father, Ivan Atanasov, was of Bulgarian origin, born in 1876 in the village of Boyadzhik, close to Yambol, then in the Ottoman Empire.
lol
There was a solid 20 year gap between Sikorsky moving to the US and building his first helicopter, so it's rather silly for Russia or Ukraine to try to claim that.
>Vladimir Zworykin was born in Murom, Russia, in 1888 or 1889, to the family of a prosperous merchants.
tv inventor born in heart of russia
its okay, at least americans invented peanut butter and armored football
You just named another American. What don't you understand about this? Everyone worth a shit in Russia leaves as soon as possible. Nothing of value resides in Russia, especially your race of subhuman mongol rape babies.
VatBlack person, please
Modern television was invented by american Philo Farnsworth. Try again, nukulturny barbarian.
ITT: pidoruski sperging about what the evil Ukro nationalists say in his head in thread without any of them.
Your psychosis is why its good thousands of you are dying horribly in Ukraine. Just give us your needy women and it will all be over, its not like they want you all with your fricking poverty and AIDS diagnosis.