Glad someone else is posting this too. My phone started auto generating the name from typing it so frequently.
Not intervening in the Russian civil war was a mistake.
Glad someone else is posting this too. My phone started auto generating the name from typing it so frequently.
Not intervening in the Russian Civil War was a mistake.
There's no time limit. Baltic States can cite it and then just send a bunch of shit to frick Russians up. This is the weakest Russians have been FOREVER. Frick em. Total Russian Death.
>Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.[7] >Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory. >Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. >Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used". >Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against the signatory. >Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
Let's see. Russia has broken points 1, 2, 3. Has ignored 4 and 6 since they were the aggressor. And they have repeatedly threatened to break part 5.
TL;DR Ur a gayot
>AKSHUALLY we pulled out because we uh, signed a treaty with the enemy saying we would! >NO WE WONT TELL YOU WHY WE DIDN'T SAY SO THEN AND THERE!
Jesus Christ, this is pathetic.
>are you sure that is what it says lieutenant? >yes I am sure. >this does not make any sense... >well we signed the treaty so we must do as it says. >just leave are tanks and vehicles and run away flailing our arms? >da comrade, now get to it.
I mean it's not like they could drive their tanks and trucks back anyways, that miles long convoy was a fuel trap.
Still, this is amusing cope, wonder when they'll just leave and say the entire fricking thing wasn't real.
>Article 102 >Every treaty and every international agreement entered into by any Member of the United Nations after the present Charter comes into force shall as soon as possible be registered with the Secretariat and published by it. >No party to any such treaty or international agreement which has not been registered in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 1 of this Article may invoke that treaty or agreement before any organ of the United Nations.
>They didn't want to be confused with the bird that has was named after the country in a bizarre turn of events.
Y-you mean you've never had Roast Turkiye at Thanksgivying?
Basically Turkey assumed that turkeys the bird was named after them to make fun of them, but in reality the bird was assumed to be from turkey through some mixup when it was brought to Europe.
They didn't want to be confused with the bird that has was named after the country in a bizarre turn of events.
Honestly I never understood why.
I think maybe they were just fed up of western tourists trying to Google holidays and getting American holiday dinners kek.
It's mainly because the Turks wanted everyone to call their country the same thing they did, just Like Swaziland. Except Swaziland became Eswatini and Turkey became Türkiye because the Turks are moronic and forgot we've been calling them by their own name for hundreds of fricking years.
>Czechia
It is Che-h-ia > Chechnya (Chech-knee-er) (what the frick anon)
It is Ch-e-ch-nya
Tshe-Kia
Tshesh-Niya
Thanks Anons
>Czechia >ee-er
this is an abomination but tbh I find check republic more natural
Yeah, I know it's not right but unfortunately in my accent, the most natural sound to come after a "-ch" is a soft "-y" so it normally comes out as a "-yee" or a "-yur".
Czechia is pronounced /ˈt͡ʃɛkiə/ so it's like Check-ya while Chechnya is /ˈt͡ʃɛtʃ.ni.ə/ so it's approximatively Chech-nee-ah.
If you want to know a better explaination of how it's pronounced check the International Phonetic Alphabet and look at the prononciation on Wiktionary (the "/ˈt͡ʃɛtʃ.ni.ə/" looking part)
>I find it very hard to verbally distinguish between Czechia and Chechnya
it's easy, Czechs are civilised people worth talking about respectfully. Chechens are the goblins to the Russians orcs.
Wasn't it also just named "Czech" for like a year very recently? The reason I'm against it is they've had like 4 names in the past 50 years; make up your mind, Christ.
The Czechs don't really like it in any case because it still uses a very "Polish" spelling ("Cz" instead of "Č") so prepare for more changes in the future.
(It's more "West Slavic" than Polish since the Czechs used to spell it like that too, but in the 19th century the Czechs decided to push Pan-Slavism and imagined they could be the master race of a united Slavic nation, so they reformed their alphabet to be a generic Slavic Latin alphabet in anticipation of this eventually happening.)
Why are Slavs so obsessed with "uniting" their neighbors under one banner, and how are they so convinced their specific language will become the Slavic lingua franca?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Why are Slavs so obsessed with "uniting" their neighbors under one banner, and how are they so convinced their specific language will become the Slavic lingua franca
We aren't. Only Russia peddles that bullshit (I'm sure you can understand why if you look at their history/foreign policy)
Turkye or wienerroachie matters not,
It is still rightfully byzantine clay not ottoman rapist clay.
Should have wiped turkey after WW1 and renamed Inassbull to Constantinople
>Türkiye (actually Turkey) >Burkina Faso (actually Upper Volta) >Côte d'Ivoire (actually Ivory Coast) >Eswatini (actually Swaziland) >Myanmar (actually Burma) >Timor-Leste (actually East Timor) (this one is especially bad because both "Leste" and "Timor" mean "East" so they had the opportunity to name themselves something other than "East East" but instead decided to stick with "East East" but said differently)
when will these fricking Black folk understand that you can't just change the English language just because your country is named something different in your native tongue
Tbh, France has the Académie Française to regulate their language
11 months ago
Anonymous
They don't have any more authority over the language than Merriam-Webster does over English. They can decide whether or not to include a word in their dictionary, but they can't prevent or ensure the entry of a word into common usage.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>muh descriptivism
NTA but you should unironically have a nice day.
>Actually anybody can make changes to any language and there are no authority figures that can prevent such things.
no, sometimes people may understand you even if you are unable to properly speak the language, but using words wrong doesn't change the meaning of the words, thats subhuman intelligence government employee thinking
11 months ago
Anonymous
>but using words wrong doesn't change the meaning of the words
It literally does, no cap ong fr fr
>"Suomi" sounds way cooler
It sounds Japanese rather than Finnish
11 months ago
Anonymous
"Nokia" sounds more Japanese than "Suomi"
11 months ago
Anonymous
>"Nokia" sounds more Japanese
No it doesn't because の is extremely rare at the beginning of words and the のき fragment is quite unusual.
11 months ago
Anonymous
What are you talking about, 軒 is common. JLPT N3, Wanikani 51.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You clearly misunderstanding, I am not talking about the word, I am talking about the syllabic fragment, which is why I wrote it in kana rather than using the kanji. This syllabic fragment is rare outside of the word 軒 and words derived from it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>のき is rare if we disregard common words that use it
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's almost like a syllabic pair being rare is relative. Again, this pair only represents a single kanji which forms a relatively small family words. It does not occur at the beginning of other words.
Why do you refuse to accept that it is not a common fragment? Do people say のき all the time or what?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Do people say のき all the time or what?
If you want to put it that way... actually, yeah? No is extremely common particle and many words begin with ki.
But seriously I still can't think of a single Japanese word that begins with suo. Help me out?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No is extremely common particle and many words begin with ki
That's a nice thing to say, but I don't think that's what we're talking about.
Eh, foreigners can pronounce "suomi" just fine. Or even "turku on suomen persereikä"
But anything with double vowels or consonants absolutely devastates them.
English speakers always pronounce o as 'oh'. They will inevitably say something like 'syohmee'.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They can easily pronounce it right with guidance. Far better than our rally english, anyways.
But anything with double consonants or vowels is unnatural to them. Even if you explain it to them syllable by syllable and get them to practice it a few times, they quickly revert back to doing it wrong.
Most fun I had was trying to teach an englishman how to pronounce Paasikivi right. It just kept coming out as something like pussykivi.
I tried to explain that it's better to lengthen the double vowel too much rather than too little, but he just wouldn't or couldn't do it. We did a few practices on single/double vowel length and really forced extended paaasikivi. I tried to encourage him that it sounded better but he just wouldn't do it in the finished script.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No one is gonna pronounce your shit native name for that shit swamp you call home like you would in your absolute shit language, they need guidance like this anon said
They can easily pronounce it right with guidance. Far better than our rally english, anyways.
But anything with double consonants or vowels is unnatural to them. Even if you explain it to them syllable by syllable and get them to practice it a few times, they quickly revert back to doing it wrong.
Most fun I had was trying to teach an englishman how to pronounce Paasikivi right. It just kept coming out as something like pussykivi.
I tried to explain that it's better to lengthen the double vowel too much rather than too little, but he just wouldn't or couldn't do it. We did a few practices on single/double vowel length and really forced extended paaasikivi. I tried to encourage him that it sounded better but he just wouldn't do it in the finished script.
Historically, the English called Germans The Dutch, as well as Hollanders. If that name did get completely taken over by the Dutch, Germany might've been called Dutchland in English today.
Historically, the English called Germans The Dutch, as well as Hollanders. If that name did get completely taken over by the Dutch, Germany might've been called Dutchland in English today.
I would like to point out that a lot of countries have multiple languages. Belgium has 3 official languages with smaller less known dialects. Switzerland has multiple languages too. So do South Africa etc. Countries having only one language is a very novel concept, coming with the French revolution. Before that, french as we know it was only spoken in the area around Paris. There were hundreds of other languages in France at the time. Same for Italy which was only spoken around Florence a few centuries ago. If you said that, for example, the new name of Belgium is Belgique, all the non-french speaking Belgians would seethe hard. The non-flemish speakers would seethe if you wanted to switch Belgium to België. Etc. Exonyms have always existed and it's a normal thing, they aren't less legitimate than endonyms. Each language comes with a different inventory of sounds, a different intonation system, a different flow of words and all those other things. For example, there are no diphtongues in modern french, it would frick up the language to suddenly add words that don't follow the grammatical rules, that don't rhyme with anything, that have sounds you can't find in the language you're writting in etc. Using the endonyms of countries wouldn't work. Even if we tried implementing it, it would just make a fricked up situation where you have some foreign words you can barely use, while not even being able to pronounce them. And even then, languages evolve and exonyms would just reappear very quickly because there is a reason why they were there in the first place.
Why don't we call Deutschland Deutschland if that is its proper name? Or call Japan Nippon?
Deutschland is how you refer to it in German. In English you refer to it as Germany, and the German government correctly recognizes this fact. The names of things over the years developed for various reasons, just like every other word of every language.
Like seriously, imagine if Xi stood up on stage and demanded everyone call his country "Zhōngguó". Hell, by this standard, we shouldn't even be calling it that, we should be calling it "中國" since that's what the government calls it; it doesn't matter if it isn't English, that's what the government demands it be called in English.
It's not hard to say Torte or tarte as an English speaker either, but it's not like the German or French governments are demanding that we start saying either of those instead of "pie".
It's actually kinda funny that we call China "China" seeing as it's cognate to 支那, which is what Japan called China in WWII to the effect of much Chinese butthurt
You can keep calling it what you want anon noone but morons you should be ignoring will screech at you.
But the next generation and the news will call it the new name and you will eventually get over it.
I live in Turkey and seeing this in English text throws me off. How was this even accepted? To start with Ü is not a letter in English alphabet.
Also in Turkish, Egypt is called corn, and India is called turkeyistan. Are we going to change those?
Please use Turkey to make our morons seethe.
Doesn't this cope make Russia look even worse? So instead of it being a logistical clusterfrick that they understandably had to pull out of, they simply got duped and never reattempted to go back to those cities even though they claim they had the full ability to do so?
It's not about being right or even appearing credible. It's a about having the power to lie brazenly in everybody's faces even when they know they're being lied to. Russians are literally buck broken in the sense of fact or fiction, it is meaningless. The tsars word is truth.
>Doesn't this cope make Russia look even worse?
It is not a cope, it is a STRATEGY.
With this and Peskovs statement that "ukraine is demilitarized" Putin is building an exit for himself, clearly a decision has been reached in Putins circle that Ukraine war is FUBAR.
This "Ukraine and westoids" deceived us good-natured russians while we had a treaty - enables bunch of legalese bullshit for future(i.e. never recognizing any border with UA for future frickery, warcrime bla bla), excuses losses (attacked us while we had a truce), enable s to say "russia would've won if it wanted", saves (at least in pretend) the "russia stronk" mythos etc etc.
This is not some random statement, its clearly part of a calculated exit plan.
You’re probably right, if all of this just isn’t fake news. Meanwhile they’ve entrenched hard and poured mines all across the front. They aren’t going to advance through their own minefields so they may be just stay where they are.
Agreed, I just hope we continue to frick Russia for this shit. >pay for all property damage >pay $1m for every dead Ukie >only when 2% of Russian GDP is directed as such will santions be lifted >any reduction under 2% of GDP will result in sanctions being returned
It's a narrative for russian population. What are they going to do about being lied in their face, occupy red square and defeneatrate Putin? They're being told >this is why we're gonna pull out, don't bother asking questions
It's just one strain of propaganda for their domestic audience. "Look at how fair we were with Ukraine, giving them every chance to stop being HATO nazis, but alas they rejected our goodwill sortie"
It’s Putin go to cope. Whenever he fricks up he tells everyone he got duped. First he got duped by NATO on Eastern Europe, them by Ukraine at Minsk, then by Ukraine on the grain deal, the the EU duped him on gas and now Ukraine again it seems. Really now Putin is just a trusting guy who gets duped all the time.
Peskov declaring "demilitarization" goal achieved and Putin waving this made up deal to cameras. Russia is preparing the retreat from Ukraine, by selling the idea to home crowd as NOT a military defeat but getting tricked by those pesky lying ukronazis!
>Completely flies in the face of their "muh feint" narrative they pushed originally >A supposedly huge breach of an agreement only got revealed a year later for no fricking reason >No explanation as to why they didn't attempt to retake the land if this was the case
A more authoritarian version of me would advocate strangling people for such dishonesty
None of their other lies were very convincing anyway, they may as well just keep inventing new ones, people are dumb enough to listen to them it's possible the Muscovites may fabricate something people want to believe eventually.
>A more authoritarian version of me would advocate strangling people for such dishonesty
It's a power-lie, if you know they know that you're lying and don't say a word, you have power over them in russia. The people are tormented by these "I can say it in your face and you cannot do anything" type of things often.
Strangulation usually comes when someone questions authority etc. Such is life in vatnikstan.
>Completely flies in the face of their "muh feint" narrative they pushed originally >A supposedly huge breach of an agreement only got revealed a year later for no fricking reason >No explanation as to why they didn't attempt to retake the land if this was the case
A more authoritarian version of me would advocate strangling people for such dishonesty
Basically this.
The term "Vranyo" is thrown around incorrectly a lot but this is a perfect example of it.
The vast majority (99%+) of even the most hardcore vatniks inside russia know this is bullshit. The people spouting it know it's bullshit and that the people they're spouting it to know it's bulshit but they go along with it regardless. Why? Because if they didn't that means they'd have to start asking uncomfortable questions like where all the money that was supposed to go to the army's modernization went.
Of course moronic contrarians in the west often fall for these obvious lies because they reason "Well I cant trust western media so russian media might have a point!".
Russia is filled to the absolute brim with these obvious lies that everyone tells but no one believes, some include >Russia going easy on ukraine, only using a fraction of their power >Ukraine is filled with Nazis >Russia can take on NATO >The west is collapsing
and so on
It's even more dumb than that. Turkey and ukraine can literally say such an agreement never happened. But I guess such things don't matter because vatniks being vatniks will only ever believe putin. putin could literally say zelensky fondled his daughter and that's why he invaded.. and vatniks would believe it.
kek, misread what you first sent
funny thing about that is apparently the chief editor of meduza ain't a bed of roses either
must be the water in russia or something
It doesn't matter. The common russian is spineless and will never call out Putin even when he's blatantly lying, while the vatniks will believe literally anything he says.
Remember the time the Americans got the White House burned down and then wrote a song where they actually won? Seems like Russia isn't even close to the true champions of cope.
Prove me wrong. Find ten Americans and see how much of that song they can sing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We literally study it in school, dude.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I learned all the state capitals in elementary, too. Does that mean I can tell you the state capital of Nebraska?
Hell, how many Americans know the state capitals of California, Illinois, New York, and Washington?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm surrounded by idiots and am proud of it
Again, good for you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
anon, if you can find me more than 10% of people in NYC (or any other place on the other side of the country) who can tell you the capital of Washington is Olympia, I will be astonished.
You will probably find more people who mix up Washington the state with Washington DC.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Washington is Olympia
I thought it was Seattle
11 months ago
Anonymous
The capital of Illinois isn't Chicago, it's Springfield.
New York's isn't NYC, it's Albany.
California's isn't LA, or SD, or San Jose, or SF, it's Sacramento.
If you don't live near these states, this is basically pointless knowledge.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We don't sing the state capitals before every sporting event in the country. Omaha Sacramento Springfield Albany Spokane.
11 months ago
Anonymous
3/5. I'll take it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I learned all the state capitals in elementary, too. Does that mean I can tell you the state capital of Nebraska?
Hell, how many Americans know the state capitals of California, Illinois, New York, and Washington?
Not anymore. Teachers are too busy teaching them "whole-word reading" and "how to be a unicorn" and "how to satisfy older men".
I'm an american, I know the entire song, as well as the backstory to it. If you don't, then get the frick out of the U.S.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, believe it or not your freedom also includes being free to not participate in moronic political rituals.
11 months ago
Anonymous
As an actual American I can confirm everything you said is wrong and that you have to go back to your third world shithole Jose.
shut the frick up you gays > Of those who claim to know all the words, only 39 percent know what follows the line "whose broad stripes and bright stars," the survey found.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/WaterCooler/story?id=124484&page=1
No one cares about that homosexual drinking song. We're just waiting for the boomers to die so we can make the some from America World Police our anthem instead.
As someone that isn't American, I have to say something to you and it's going to hurt... You're a fricking homosexual. The fact that you knew this about the Star Spangled Banner and actually give enough of a shit to make an obviously but blasted post of it is pathetic. You're letting burgers live rent free in your head. You are so assmad and obsessed with American superiority that you have internalized their culture more deeply than they have and probably more so than your own. It's fricking pathetic, bro. Step back.
> The fact that you knew this about the Star Spangled Banner and actually give enough of a shit to make an obviously but blasted post of it is pathetic
Not them but why? It’s the national anthem. You learn about it a bunch in school. Everyone knows what their national anthem is about.
Or is this all just you seething and projecting because you hate your culture and have to invade ours?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't the American Anthem Amazing Grace though?
I see them singing that all the time at big events and hardly ever hear them sing Star-Spangled Banner.
Ramesses II with his battle of Kadesh has been the world champion of military cope for some 3300 years and no one has ever come close to dethroning him.
The Hittites kicking his ass resulted in more Egyptian texts and monuments, all claiming it as a glorious victory, than all known battles combined for hundreds of years after Kadesh.
The song isnt about winning. It's about enduring and surviving. The British threw everything they had a naval fort which was completely overmatched and ended up losing the battle which kept America from losing the war completely.
Last time I went to argentina they had the falklands map on their currency, and were showing some cartoon in the plane on the heroic war against the evil english
Why can't Putin simply say >I want to rebuild the soviet union and reannext the territories we previously held. We had to back then because of gorbacev's stupidity, short sightedness and servilism towards the americans, but now no more. We are strong, we are powerful again, and it's about time that we show the world that the ideals of communism are not dead yet, and we will rise to guide eurasia according to Lenin 's teachings, for the glory of the motherland and socialism
Or shit like that. Ruskies are still very patriotic so they would get really riled up, plus they constantly reminisce about the good soviet old days so openly invading ukraine would be unanimously supported.
Instead he had to invent one weak lie after another, because he lied so much he can't stop now. He even knows nobody believes that shit in the west, but he just had to do it, because he's a chronic liar
Something tells me going up on stage and saying "We're going to invade Eastern Europe and half Germany" probably wouldn't have gone down well on the international stage. Also I think being honest is anathema to a citizen of the Soviet Union where your whole life depended on your ability to bullshit and graft.
He does not need to do shit on the home propaganda front, Russians are buckbroken serfs. He could live broadcast himself driving around moscow spitting in the face of babuschkas with dead sons and running over small kids, they would still not dare oppose great tsar.
These people... for fricks sake. Did it ever occur to Putin that maybe unifying with Ukraine would be peacefully possible by being a worthy ally and not a backstabbing c**t?
The USA didn't establish all of its alliances in Europe through threats and invasions it did it by offering members actual perks that made the defensive alliance attractive.
And speaking of the myth of American interference Bush Sr. when the USSR was breaking up literally went to Ukraine and gave them a speech urging them to stay with Russia but the Russians being such buttholes made the Ukrainians even avoid the advice of an American President just to not be associated with Russia.
For all it's talk people don't want to ally with Russia because they just aren't a very good ally. They rob, lie, and psyop their 'friends' constantly. They are so corrupt that there isn't any room for honest people to grow or get ahead. And now the Russians have shown that they can't even use their military in an effective fashion to achieve what should be very easy goals.
If Russia was ever able to self reflect and solve it's own domestic issues the world might actually be in trouble. But they are only going to sink further into irrelevance if they don't fix their corruption problem.
>Did it ever occur to Putin that maybe unifying with Ukraine would be peacefully possible by being a worthy ally and not a backstabbing c**t?
Not after Euromaidan and not within his lifetime, he was well aware of that. Besides, if you look at fricking Poland of all places and then at Russia, it's immediately clear which way you ought to go. Making Ukraine a Russian ally would require Russia to become the superpower it claims to be and not the living, 19th century, fossil it has been throughout the 20th and 21st century.
To make Russia a true competitor to Europe, it's a task far too demanding for a terrified ex-spook and probably too demanding for the best minds in the whole world.
Russia is unable to solve the domestic problems, because many of them are by design. Russia is not a country, it's a colonial empire. There is a reason why all the other colonial empires (barring some token holdings) dissolved after WW2 at the latest.
I guess what's really baffling is that they talk about the USA as this dastardly enemy behind all of their woes. When time and again the USA has tried to help them out even going so far as having motherfricking Bush Sr. give a speech to Ukraine urging them to stay with Russia. Even agreeing with the planed "New Union Treaty" and pushing for it... Only for the Russians themselves to sour the entire plan with their failed August Coup that pushed Ukraine and others even further away from wanting to remain partners with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Union_Treaty
Ever since the USSR collapsed it has just been one long string of them invading their neighbors, the USA making excuses for them and pandering to them, The Russians doing it again in a different place, crying more crocodile tears, etc.
Why the frick does the usa cover Russia's ass so much? Its like a parent covering for their spoiled hellspawn of a child again.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Why the frick does the usa cover Russia's ass so much?
We need worthy opponents.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>We need worthy opponents.
That argument falls apart the second you apply that to Russia
11 months ago
Anonymous
>That argument falls apart the second you apply that to Russia
a fact that's been revealed to the public only very recently. before the invasion everybody took russia's big words on them having a capable military as truth. MIC's all throughout the western hemisphere thrived for decades on that assumption. if there isn't a big bad on the outside, people instead start fighting their fellow man out of pettiness
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, you meant the perceived threat and not the actual threat. Yeah, some say china is going to be filling that void now
11 months ago
Anonymous
it is going to be even funnier when changs are exposed to what they really have been the last millennia or two militarily. Given their proportional size to everybody around them they should have at least pushed the snow chimps out of Siberia long ago.
Burgers are so distraught at the lack of any serious enemies that the biggest threat to them is home grown woke marxist infestation trying to rot them from inside out
11 months ago
Anonymous
>home grown woke marxist infestation trying to rot them from inside out
Its working
11 months ago
Anonymous
Russia is a US puppet to keep EU reined in
11 months ago
Anonymous
Americans are not nearly as villainous as the world makes them out to be and while they do enjoy a good fight every now and then they understand that it's better for everyone that after the fighting is done for there to be a move towards rebuilding and reconciliation.
Unlike most of the rest of the world where they just beat the shit out of an enemy, make unreasonable demands for concessions, then leave them to suffer without any help. Yes there are some instances where the US has been rather shitty to old enemies (namely the Taliban) but for the most part once the fighting is done we prefer if people can just get along.
Which for the most part works except in those rare instances when it runs into a country like Russia which is so far up its own ass and hopped up on arrogance and dreams of imperial destiny that it simply can't suffer to live in a world where Russia isn't the center of attention, that you end up with tragedies like the war in Ukraine.
Paradoxically, the Russians would probably respect the USA more if the USA was half as bad as their propaganda makes them out to be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes there are some instances where the US has been rather shitty to old enemies (namely the Taliban)
To be fair, they refused to hand over the terrorist's that did 9/11. That event got the blood of every American heated so refusing to hand over those responsible was a pretty dumb move, don't know why they did that.
>Making Ukraine a Russian ally would require Russia to become the superpower it claims to be and not the living, 19th century, fossil it has been throughout the 20th and 21st century.
Honestly the Russians just not being backstabbing manipulative buttholes would go a long ways towards making them an ally worth a damn. They've got all this land and resources and they don't hardly make productive use of it at all. >To make Russia a true competitor to Europe, it's a task far too demanding for a terrified ex-spook and probably too demanding for the best minds in the whole world.
I don't know anon. They were in the perfect position to become what China became after the collapse and instead they turned away from the West, handed all of their industry over to incompetent ex-party morons and KGB agents. Then they jealously wonder why China succeeded where they failed.
For all of it's issues you at least have to give it to the Chinese that they understood the value of cooperation and using the state to minimize internal corruption instead of proliferating it.
>Russia >1000 year old country
Kek
Kyiv is older and not part of modern Russia sorry, Moscow is 876 years old and was tiny as frick, not more than 1000 years old like Kyiv.
He can't even tell the truth in his propaganda kek.
Threadly reminder that the Kievan Rus was a prosperous and worthy princely Kingdom that had great relationships with Europe, and that it was razed by mongols, whereby Muscovy, a backwater shithole, hijacked the Rus name. The entirety of Russian culture is theft of other, greater ones.
I'm not sure his remaining trading partners that are helping him get around the sanctions through parallel import, mainly the Caucasian and Central Asian counties, are gonna be thrilled about a vocal admission of being the next to the chopping block.
>the ideals of communism are not dead yet, and we will rise to guide eurasia according to Lenin 's teachings, for the glory of the motherland and socialism
He's a pure kleptocrat. He doesn't give a shit about communism. Or free market capitalism for that matter.
They already believe that the Ukies are mind-controlled, biologically-engineered, Satanic mutants who do don't actually exist because Ukraine doesn't exist because this map of the Russian Empire from 1720 says the don't.
I'm not entirely sure this even makes them look worse in their eyes.
It's also far, far too broad of a lie to be of any use for the international audience, because it falls apart as soon as anyone asks why they didn't bother to tell anyone about this until now?
Could it be that this lie is a lie specifically for Putin and the Oligarchs, so that when everything comes burning down around them, they can believe that if only those wily Ukies hadn't duped them with their duplicity, they would still have an a respected military, global influence and Siberia?
There were recent rumblings in Putin's war blogger press conference, something to the effect of a blogger asking, "Why did we retreat from Kiev? We almost had them!" And this pissed Putin off enough to say something like "Do you know what I knew then? Do you know why we pulled out? Of course you don't. I do." So this new thing is coming ex post facto to cover his ass from the idea of the rush to Kiev (ie the worst Russian military disaster in 50 years) not being Putin's fault but the fault of backstabbing Ukrainians.
It's not a cope, it's the begining of a bigger mobilization. Basically they are going to say that they defeated Ukraine proper but that it's NATO proping them up, thus it's no longer a "special military operation" but a full scale war.
Anon, I can only fit so many keys on a keyboard and it shouldn't take me a users manual and five minutes to write out a single sentence. There's probably a better way of doing things, but it is not combining all of the European Alphabets from the last 2000 years into one.
Unlike re-spelling, which is prone to confusion owing to the myriad different pronunciations of identical sequences of letters in English, IPA has characters devoted to the specific sounds the human vocal chords and mouth are capable of making. It's not perfect, but it works better than anything else. Most importantly, I am not suggesting that IPA should be used as a language, it's actually useless at that. But it is a very good tool for conveying proper pronunciation.
Yes that's exactly why we went to China to complain, we were treatened with sanctions from our second biggest export partner, the US, over this Russian shitshow. It would have destroyed the country, a BRICS member.
Doubtful, this shitshow will go on until either Ukraine pushes towards Azov and cuts Crimea off or Russia manages to force a stalemate, the stakes are too high for both sides
Africa does not have any leverage to do shit here.
The energy situation has gotten so bad, that there is a chance of a possible Total Grid Collapse which would send the entire country into a Mad Max LARP as everything stops working and they will left completely isolated from every country that isn't already bordering them.
>Grid won't collapse, they're sabotaging coal fired power stations to manufacture an excuse to mass import Russian gas. >Actual ANC senior figures are behind the syndicates systematically destroying power here.
OR....your country is run by Black folk?
No need for conspiracies, when answer is just obvious.
Didn't everything work just fine back in the apartheid days?
I'm not saying Black folk can't run a country, but seriously, Black folk can't run a country.
Perhaps, but SA had been struggling to function long before this war and its consequences
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, Black folk can't manage countries. At best, they could hire wypipo to fix the issue
11 months ago
Anonymous
Criminals gonna criminal, I guess. We all have our masters.
You'll see the power crisis miraculously end when EU buys gas from Russia again after this shitshow.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>power crisis miraculously end
How something that doesn't exist could end? >EU buys gas from Russia again
Why? After the war ended we buy gas from Ukraine.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>EU buy >from Russia >ever again
homie do you have any fricking clue how utterly delusional you are?
Europe does not givie a flying frick if you're some third world tinpot dictator as long as you deliver what was agreed. Then you get the delicious euromoniez pumped right up your third world ass, can drive around in a gold Mercedes and park your yacht in Monaco.
But if you try and rock the boat, not deliver on what was agreed and, worst of all, think you can frick with the money making, you end up outside.
Not becaeeu you may be corrupt, or a criminal. But becasue you cannot be trusted to deliver on what was agreed.
Sure, some private companies may return, once Putin is gone.
But when it comes to actual international dealings, Russia completely blew it. They threw away the one thing that actually matters, and that is trust.
The West knows they wil backstab, their own CSTO 'allies' know they will be abandoned, China knows that Russia's military is actually unable to perform a successful offensive into a direct niehgbor.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If Europe doesn't give a shit then how come they are still dependent on Rosatom and avoid sanctioning them?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Europe is not dependent on Rosatom, you fricking imbecile. Some Eastern EU states have Soviet-built nuclear plants, and due to nuclear security they are not sanctioning them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Look up how much of Europe's enriched Uranium is delivered by Rosatom.
And it's not just old plants, they are still building new ones.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Looking into stuff like this and I was completely fricking stunned to learn that Russia still operates EIGHT RBMK-1000 reactors, and doesn't plan to decomission them until 2034. What the FRICK, that's completely insane.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, the design itself isn't inherently flawed. If it were, there'd have been a couple more Chernobyls since and there haven't. What is wrong with it is it's lack of safeguards so when someone does frick up, shit hits the fan. Instead of a safe shutdown like western reactors. It's not significantly more prone to failure by itself than anything else is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>What is wrong with it is it's lack of safeguards so when someone does frick up
Oh I'm well aware of that, I've fricked around with the simulator a few times
https://hartrusion.com/en/howto-simgenics-rbmk-1000-simulator/
great fun if you're this particular flavor of autism and want to experience pain like never before
11 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for adding a new flavor to my autism anon.
DL links for others interested >game
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111201234/https://www.simgenics.com/downloads/Chernobyl_Installer.zip >manual
https://web.archive.org/web/20210201092546/https://simgenics.com/downloads/Chernobyl_The_Legacy_Continues_Information_and_Users_Guide.pdf
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you don't operate them like driveling morons because you're corrupt and need to run the safety test you lied about already doing, it should be fine.
Oh, you said Russia. I can see why your concerned.
Did they build containment buildings yet?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Look up how much of Europe's enriched Uranium is delivered by Rosatom.
And it's not just old plants, they are still building new ones.
But it's all in decline now. Many countries that wanted to build NPP refused to cooperate with russia. Finland for example.
They are using russian help to maintain what's rest.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They could cut all ties right now if they actually meant it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No they couldn't, it doesn't work that way with nuclear energy. But they already set course to reduce russian influence to 0.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>EU buys gas from Russia
Lol. This isn't going to happen. The only one who would even consider it is France, and only because they're the reason Russia has any working weapon systems at all, and why France is in the dog house diplomatically right now.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Power Crisis?It's not 2022 anymore and even that was mostly fearmongering.Germany didn't even dip below 60% of their reserves and they are already rising again.The EU has replaced russian gas and they won't start buying it again.
There is no membership in BRICS because there is no BRICS. It's a catchall polite term used by economists for populous shitholes countries, the financial world equivalent of "BIPOC", nothing more. There are no legal agreements between the countries, and it's not even a spiritual union as most of the countries hate each other.
Literally a term made up by a Goldman-Sachs israelite to trick boomers with some money (back when older people had some money) into investing in volatile countries. "BRICS" consists of a country known mostly for its trannies, a country that will be gone by 2030, two shitholes at war, and a literal gaggle of Black folk who can't keep the lights on or the water faucets running.
Why do they do it? Why do they lie all the time? Not just once, not just twice, but dozens of times, multiple times a day, lie after lie after lie. It has to be pathological, there is no way a rational mind could think this is in any way helping them.
>Why do they lie all the time?
it's literally part of their culture. it probably started as a power play thing, being able to lie to someone's face and knowing they're powerless to do anything about it. but at some point it just became ingrained in how they live day to day.
I don't know why Putin didn't do this sooner, same with the "We actually HAVE demilitarized Ukraine" cope. His supporters will believe any damn thing he says, so all he needs to do is declare he actually won/wasn't trying, pull out, and celebrate it as an overwhelming Russian victory. It's that easy!
>I don't know why Putin didn't do this sooner, same with the "We actually HAVE demilitarized Ukraine" cope
They would have paraded that all over if Ze caved and started peace talks as soon as Russia started begging for them.
Why he decided to go with this cope now I do not know.
Probably finally realizing it's a complete lost cause and hoping they can pull back and hang on to Crimea at least. Would explain the lengths they're going to in order to slow down any pushes towards the land bridge, massive fortifications, blowing dams, etc.
>It worked in Crimea why isn't it working this time? >We must win we've sacrificed too much to lose now!
Dictators aren't good at long term planning. They want to see results in their lifetime. Putin could have not invaded, tried to improve things domestically while continuing psyops against the west, then when it came time to step down hand pick another trusted hardliner who would continue his plans. Instead he sacrificed everything for nothing. He will be lucky to get out of this and save his own skin.
some commentators theorized how time is not on russia's side demography wise and in terms of ukraine's armament and them cozying up to EU and USA economically and eventually militarily, getting access to increasingly modern technology and arms.
putin basically had to grab ukraine in order to gain 35+ million citizens to offset the catastrophical demographic development in russia, while also robbing ukraine of all it's industrial capabilities, oil deposits and shit.
had he, or russia, waited another 5-10 or 20 years it would be even harder for them to "succesfully invade" ukraine because of this.
since russia's shitty aids ridden cleptocracy of a state can't develop shit and people tend to frick off to the west en masse, they gambled and are losing ever since it didn't go the way everybody expected it to go.
arestovych talked about it in march of 2019. there were other people that knew about what was soon to come, but there were many different theories anyways and hindsight is 20/20. it's easy to pick some analysts prediction from a few years ago and say "see, he knew" while disregarding the 99% or experts who made wildly different predictions. europeans were always pussing around putin's shenanigans as long as they got gas flowing through the pipelines, merisharts were either belittling russia as a "regional power" or b***hing about europe's dependance on russian gas, and some very few were theorizing about how russia would try to grab ukraine in the near future.
I thought this was common knowledge? Yes, the Ukraine signed a preliminary peace treaty with Russia during the Istanbul negotiations back in March 2023. Yes, Boris Johnson had arrived in Kiev the next day and talked Zelensky into rescinding that treaty and continue the war. That was the point of no return when any political solution for this conflict was made impossible. Not that any of that matters anymore.
Even if it was true, any treaty with Russia is worth toilet paper now so they deserve it. Imagine signing "muh neutrality" treaty with country that broke any agreements and starts genociding you.
get stuck near Kiev because roadblock and ukies using atgm, drones and manoads to blow up the stuck column.
Try to get some kind of victory by peace talks.
Maybe some agreement could be reached but it's difficult, thinks like neutrality are on the table.
Nato & Ukies realise that the Russians are in a very bad situation so they can likely extract a much better peace deal from them.
Putin dosen't agree to just go back to pre war borders with some more autonomy for Dombass but knows every day passes by the situation of the column is more and more dire, the air force is getting screwed by manpads while badly trained logistics specs are trying to unfrick the massive transport cluster frick which keeps getting fricked again the Ukrainians blow up something on the main roads.
Ultimately Putin claims that as a good will gesture they pull back, this was necessary as the column could ONLY go back.
This because the column was consuming more material to defend it's flanks than they could transport, much less also resupply the tip of the spear.
Going through the mudded and flooded fields was not possible.
Resupply through hostomel airport also was not possible, too much AA and the airport was still within Ukrainian artillery range.
So retreat was the only option until the ground dried up which would have been almost 3 months later.
This seems plausible. There really was no reason for Russia to retreat. Even though they were stretched thinner than they should have been, logistics was actually strong.
>The orcs left Helm's deep due to a treaty they made with Theoden >Treacherous Theoden then sent his horsemen to mow down the orc forces who were leaving Helm's Deep as agreed >News of ents destroying the dam near Isengard are fake news, the orcs destroyed it to deny the ent forces access to Isengard >The dam was also destroyed by the treacherous ent forces whose foolish actions caused many ents and their hobbit auxiliaries to drown >Lord Saruman has yet to make a statement regarding the dam destruction
They signed jackshit. He's literally living in lalaland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine >Ahead of the 29 March meeting Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan stated that Ukraine was ready to agree to 4 out of Russia’s 6 demands.[47] He claimed Ukraine was prepared to renounce NATO membership and to make Russian Ukraine's second official language.[47] According to Erdoğan Ukraine was not prepared to recognise the Russian occupation of Crimea or parts of Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts.[47] Ukraine proposed adopting a neutral status in exchange for security guarantees along the lines of NATO Article 5. The proposals also included a 15-year consultation period on the status of Russian-annexed Crimea and return of all Russian forces to their pre-invasion positions.[48] Russia's Ministry of Defense announced "drastic reduction of military activity" on the Kyiv and Chernihiv fronts, which, Russian presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky clarified, was not tantamount to a ceasefire.[49][50] In a televised meeting with military bloggers on 13 June 2023 Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed that Russia and Ukraine had on this day came to "a good agreement on how to resolve the current situation by peaceful means" but that the Ukrainians had "threw it away" after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kyiv after the (failed) Russian 2022 offensive on Kyiv.[51] According to Putin Ukraine had agreed to curb Neo-Nazism in Ukraine through the "introducing appropriate restrictions in the law in Ukraine", but this had failed to happen intentionally.[51] On 14 June 2023 President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko claimed, in an interview with Russia-1, that Ukrainian and Russian delegations had discussed the possibility of "some sort of a lease" of Crimea during the March 2022 negotiations.[47]
How is this news? Russians agreed to retreat from around kiev during the peace negotiations and then ukrainians withdrew from any negotiations right after this has been known the whole time
my fricking sides. man vovas wienersuckers are truly hopeless. orc army used any negotiations to try and move forward, still they done jack shit, got their asses whopped and now claim it was
Noone is talking about any gesture of goodwill, fricktard. They simply signed a treaty which the hohols disregarded as soon as russia withdrew its troops. Thats why you should never trust a israelite
>only goal is to decapitate regime >within months sign "agreement" to withdraw
This is even more pathetic then I imagined.
If they were willing to sign a treaty why didn't they invite Ukies and Nato higher ups (to oversee) and basically say Ukies can do whatever they like EXCEPT join Nato as Russia doesn't want to be encircled?
This would make Russia look defensive (good in the eyes of the West) and allow them to continue trading with Europe and countries like Japan/South Korea - perhaps even giving them favourable deals in return for "encircling" the other big bad - China.
Give the Ukies a similar deal to Tito in Yugo, whereby Ukraine gets to be independently strong and can trade with both east and west without being reliant on either.
>Russia signs a treaty to pull out from several regions >Ukraine scrapped the treaty >Russia doesn't throw a fit about it >Russia doesn't mention it at all
Why? It would make Ukraine look bad in public relations if they actively went against an attempt to move towards peace.
necause it's all made up, another attempt by the kremlin to dictate the narrative.
it starts off as half-assed social media reports and soon, should there be be not too much headwind against it, it will be mentioned by state tv, as well as pro-russian 'jeets, Black folk and chinks as if it's always been fact
Of course I know why, but assuming it was true, Russia is still moronic. Its sorta in the playbook to lie about everything possible. Chinks might boast and misrepresent the narrative or whatever, but Russia is really the only country on the planet who lies so blatantly about the most objectively wrong shit. Remember back in January, the spokesperson for Russia's MoD claimed they killed 4 American Bradley IFVs. This came a week after America even announced they were going to provide Bradleys to Ukraine in the first place. Meaning it was physically impossible for Russia to have destroyed them becuase they weren't even in Ukraine yet, and wouldn't be for several more months.
And its not even some Russian talk show or some random Twitter shitter, it was Russia's official MoD statement. How anybody continues to believe Russia on literally anything they say if they aren't being paid is beyond me.
>How anybody continues to believe Russia on literally anything they say if they aren't being paid is beyond me
it's not something that can be fixed by objective truth.
iirc it was solzhenitsyn who explained it that those sort of people hold it like a religious belief, they cannot be convinced otherwise even if they'd see the truth with their own eyes, brainwashed beyond salvation basically.
>Russia is really the only country on the planet who lies so blatantly about the most objectively wrong shit
Moskva will return to port one day, after getting the milk and cigarettes from the store. Then HATO will know all things.
as I remember wasn't the first offensive from either side after the Kiev retreat Russian offensives around Mariupol?
why did Russia break their own treaty?
>it was gesture of good will
Not this shit again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
Glad someone else is posting this too. My phone started auto generating the name from typing it so frequently.
Not intervening in the Russian civil war was a mistake.
Lend lease was a mistake.
There's no time limit. Baltic States can cite it and then just send a bunch of shit to frick Russians up. This is the weakest Russians have been FOREVER. Frick em. Total Russian Death.
>Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.[7]
>Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory.
>Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
>Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
>Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against the signatory.
>Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments
Let's see. Russia has broken points 1, 2, 3. Has ignored 4 and 6 since they were the aggressor. And they have repeatedly threatened to break part 5.
TL;DR Ur a gayot
>AKSHUALLY we pulled out because we uh, signed a treaty with the enemy saying we would!
>NO WE WONT TELL YOU WHY WE DIDN'T SAY SO THEN AND THERE!
Jesus Christ, this is pathetic.
>are you sure that is what it says lieutenant?
>yes I am sure.
>this does not make any sense...
>well we signed the treaty so we must do as it says.
>just leave are tanks and vehicles and run away flailing our arms?
>da comrade, now get to it.
I mean it's not like they could drive their tanks and trucks back anyways, that miles long convoy was a fuel trap.
Still, this is amusing cope, wonder when they'll just leave and say the entire fricking thing wasn't real.
And why they haven't told anyone about this when they withdrew?
They did (all 140% of the population)
Shouldn’t treaties be publicized?
Yes. It's actually required under the UN Charter:
>Article 102
>Every treaty and every international agreement entered into by any Member of the United Nations after the present Charter comes into force shall as soon as possible be registered with the Secretariat and published by it.
>No party to any such treaty or international agreement which has not been registered in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 1 of this Article may invoke that treaty or agreement before any organ of the United Nations.
So how Russian shills will try to justyfy it?
>Turkiye
When did this bullshit start? I've been seeing it everywhere
Erdogan.
Erdogang
They didn't want to be confused with the bird that has was named after the country in a bizarre turn of events.
we should start calling the birds turkiyes.
Funnily enough the bird is named after India in turkish.
>They didn't want to be confused with the bird that has was named after the country in a bizarre turn of events.
Y-you mean you've never had Roast Turkiye at Thanksgivying?
Basically Turkey assumed that turkeys the bird was named after them to make fun of them, but in reality the bird was assumed to be from turkey through some mixup when it was brought to Europe.
Honestly I never understood why.
I think maybe they were just fed up of western tourists trying to Google holidays and getting American holiday dinners kek.
It's mainly because the Turks wanted everyone to call their country the same thing they did, just Like Swaziland. Except Swaziland became Eswatini and Turkey became Türkiye because the Turks are moronic and forgot we've been calling them by their own name for hundreds of fricking years.
Same thing as with Czechia and Kyiv, I'd assume
Czechia is fine tbh
I find it very hard to verbally distinguish between Czechia (Chech-ee-er) and Chechnya (Chech-knee-er). Am I saying Czechia properly?
The ch in Czechia is pronounced like a hard c or k, so its CHEK-ee-ah rather than CHETSCH-ee-ah
Thanks Anons
Yeah, I know it's not right but unfortunately in my accent, the most natural sound to come after a "-ch" is a soft "-y" so it normally comes out as a "-yee" or a "-yur".
>Czechia
It is Che-h-ia
> Chechnya (Chech-knee-er) (what the frick anon)
It is Ch-e-ch-nya
Tshe-Kia
Tshesh-Niya
>Czechia
>ee-er
this is an abomination but tbh I find check republic more natural
Czechia is pronounced /ˈt͡ʃɛkiə/ so it's like Check-ya while Chechnya is /ˈt͡ʃɛtʃ.ni.ə/ so it's approximatively Chech-nee-ah.
If you want to know a better explaination of how it's pronounced check the International Phonetic Alphabet and look at the prononciation on Wiktionary (the "/ˈt͡ʃɛtʃ.ni.ə/" looking part)
>I find it very hard to verbally distinguish between Czechia and Chechnya
it's easy, Czechs are civilised people worth talking about respectfully. Chechens are the goblins to the Russians orcs.
Wasn't it also just named "Czech" for like a year very recently? The reason I'm against it is they've had like 4 names in the past 50 years; make up your mind, Christ.
The Czechs don't really like it in any case because it still uses a very "Polish" spelling ("Cz" instead of "Č") so prepare for more changes in the future.
(It's more "West Slavic" than Polish since the Czechs used to spell it like that too, but in the 19th century the Czechs decided to push Pan-Slavism and imagined they could be the master race of a united Slavic nation, so they reformed their alphabet to be a generic Slavic Latin alphabet in anticipation of this eventually happening.)
Why are Slavs so obsessed with "uniting" their neighbors under one banner, and how are they so convinced their specific language will become the Slavic lingua franca?
>Why are Slavs so obsessed with "uniting" their neighbors under one banner, and how are they so convinced their specific language will become the Slavic lingua franca
We aren't. Only Russia peddles that bullshit (I'm sure you can understand why if you look at their history/foreign policy)
Rename Czech Republic to Zapadoslavia and then let the Slovaks and Poles join if they want.
Cz =che but ch = k
So "chekia" is correct.
we just didn't feel like typing "Czech Republic" every damn time
this is literally the reason
>Czechia
Do you mean the Czech republic?
They asked a few years back to use the shortened name.
I mean the Anglicized name of Beijing is Peking, yet I bet you've only ever used Beijing
>Turkiye
It's actually supposed to have an umlaut.
It stays Turkey then.
Both are correct according to their registration
It has an umlaut too, so its Türkiye. I'm going to be honest I don't like it.
>t.urk
>>t. urk
This is one of my favorite jokes Turks can make.
Turkye or wienerroachie matters not,
It is still rightfully byzantine clay not ottoman rapist clay.
Should have wiped turkey after WW1 and renamed Inassbull to Constantinople
>Türkiye (actually Turkey)
>Burkina Faso (actually Upper Volta)
>Côte d'Ivoire (actually Ivory Coast)
>Eswatini (actually Swaziland)
>Myanmar (actually Burma)
>Timor-Leste (actually East Timor) (this one is especially bad because both "Leste" and "Timor" mean "East" so they had the opportunity to name themselves something other than "East East" but instead decided to stick with "East East" but said differently)
when will these fricking Black folk understand that you can't just change the English language just because your country is named something different in your native tongue
The English language is not immutable, but constantly changing.
And governments of countries who don't even speak English have absolutely zero authority to dictate changes to it.
Actually anybody can make changes to any language and there are no authority figures that can prevent such things. Cry about it senpai.
Tbh, France has the Académie Française to regulate their language
They don't have any more authority over the language than Merriam-Webster does over English. They can decide whether or not to include a word in their dictionary, but they can't prevent or ensure the entry of a word into common usage.
>muh descriptivism
NTA but you should unironically have a nice day.
>Actually anybody can make changes to any language and there are no authority figures that can prevent such things.
no, sometimes people may understand you even if you are unable to properly speak the language, but using words wrong doesn't change the meaning of the words, thats subhuman intelligence government employee thinking
>but using words wrong doesn't change the meaning of the words
It literally does, no cap ong fr fr
just like your anus anon?
I wonder why Finland doesn't want everyone to call them Suomi.
Probably because that name sucks in comparison
The frick you said, "Suomi" sounds way cooler.
Its Nyemetchyna, alright
>"Suomi" sounds way cooler
It sounds Japanese rather than Finnish
"Nokia" sounds more Japanese than "Suomi"
>"Nokia" sounds more Japanese
No it doesn't because の is extremely rare at the beginning of words and the のき fragment is quite unusual.
What are you talking about, 軒 is common. JLPT N3, Wanikani 51.
You clearly misunderstanding, I am not talking about the word, I am talking about the syllabic fragment, which is why I wrote it in kana rather than using the kanji. This syllabic fragment is rare outside of the word 軒 and words derived from it.
>のき is rare if we disregard common words that use it
It's almost like a syllabic pair being rare is relative. Again, this pair only represents a single kanji which forms a relatively small family words. It does not occur at the beginning of other words.
Why do you refuse to accept that it is not a common fragment? Do people say のき all the time or what?
>Do people say のき all the time or what?
If you want to put it that way... actually, yeah? No is extremely common particle and many words begin with ki.
But seriously I still can't think of a single Japanese word that begins with suo. Help me out?
>No is extremely common particle and many words begin with ki
That's a nice thing to say, but I don't think that's what we're talking about.
Enoki, Hinoki
I actually prefer foreigners using 'Finland'. They'd just butcher the pronounciation trying to say 'Suomi'.
T. Finn
I call it Perkeland
Eh, foreigners can pronounce "suomi" just fine. Or even "turku on suomen persereikä"
But anything with double vowels or consonants absolutely devastates them.
KEKONEN
PASIKIVI
NINISTO
English speakers always pronounce o as 'oh'. They will inevitably say something like 'syohmee'.
They can easily pronounce it right with guidance. Far better than our rally english, anyways.
But anything with double consonants or vowels is unnatural to them. Even if you explain it to them syllable by syllable and get them to practice it a few times, they quickly revert back to doing it wrong.
Most fun I had was trying to teach an englishman how to pronounce Paasikivi right. It just kept coming out as something like pussykivi.
I tried to explain that it's better to lengthen the double vowel too much rather than too little, but he just wouldn't or couldn't do it. We did a few practices on single/double vowel length and really forced extended paaasikivi. I tried to encourage him that it sounded better but he just wouldn't do it in the finished script.
No one is gonna pronounce your shit native name for that shit swamp you call home like you would in your absolute shit language, they need guidance like this anon said
On the interbutts, you will forever be BINLAN :DD
Isn't Germany actually Deutschland?
They aren't actually autistic enough to ask people to say Deutschland in english
Why don't we call Deutschland Deutschland if that is its proper name? Or call Japan Nippon?
Historically, the English called Germans The Dutch, as well as Hollanders. If that name did get completely taken over by the Dutch, Germany might've been called Dutchland in English today.
I would like to point out that a lot of countries have multiple languages. Belgium has 3 official languages with smaller less known dialects. Switzerland has multiple languages too. So do South Africa etc. Countries having only one language is a very novel concept, coming with the French revolution. Before that, french as we know it was only spoken in the area around Paris. There were hundreds of other languages in France at the time. Same for Italy which was only spoken around Florence a few centuries ago. If you said that, for example, the new name of Belgium is Belgique, all the non-french speaking Belgians would seethe hard. The non-flemish speakers would seethe if you wanted to switch Belgium to België. Etc. Exonyms have always existed and it's a normal thing, they aren't less legitimate than endonyms. Each language comes with a different inventory of sounds, a different intonation system, a different flow of words and all those other things. For example, there are no diphtongues in modern french, it would frick up the language to suddenly add words that don't follow the grammatical rules, that don't rhyme with anything, that have sounds you can't find in the language you're writting in etc. Using the endonyms of countries wouldn't work. Even if we tried implementing it, it would just make a fricked up situation where you have some foreign words you can barely use, while not even being able to pronounce them. And even then, languages evolve and exonyms would just reappear very quickly because there is a reason why they were there in the first place.
No, it's called Allemande, Doitsu, or Ashkenaz
Deutschland is how you refer to it in German. In English you refer to it as Germany, and the German government correctly recognizes this fact. The names of things over the years developed for various reasons, just like every other word of every language.
Like seriously, imagine if Xi stood up on stage and demanded everyone call his country "Zhōngguó". Hell, by this standard, we shouldn't even be calling it that, we should be calling it "中國" since that's what the government calls it; it doesn't matter if it isn't English, that's what the government demands it be called in English.
Though its not hard to say Deutschland as an English speaker.
It's not hard to say Torte or tarte as an English speaker either, but it's not like the German or French governments are demanding that we start saying either of those instead of "pie".
It's actually kinda funny that we call China "China" seeing as it's cognate to 支那, which is what Japan called China in WWII to the effect of much Chinese butthurt
Only if you don't speak Latin.
Allemania it is indeed
You can keep calling it what you want anon noone but morons you should be ignoring will screech at you.
But the next generation and the news will call it the new name and you will eventually get over it.
To be fair, Ivory coast is a magnificent town/city name but a terrible country name
It’s Turkyiv ma’am
I live in Turkey and seeing this in English text throws me off. How was this even accepted? To start with Ü is not a letter in English alphabet.
Also in Turkish, Egypt is called corn, and India is called turkeyistan. Are we going to change those?
Please use Turkey to make our morons seethe.
Turkey tried to get in on the Kiev > Kyiv bullshit. Turkey calls Britain Angleterre though so they can get to frick.
Seriously Putin?
You just pulled this shit out of your ass.
Doesn't this cope make Russia look even worse? So instead of it being a logistical clusterfrick that they understandably had to pull out of, they simply got duped and never reattempted to go back to those cities even though they claim they had the full ability to do so?
It's a pretty brazen lie....that doesn't remotely hold up to scrutiny.
Russia has been fighting in Ukraine for more than a year because Russia decided to give up on Kyiv for "reasons"?
Congratz Putin, your forces apparently are not incompetent. They're just dumb as frick.
>....that doesn't remotely hold up to scrutiny.
It doesn't need to.
It's not about being right or even appearing credible. It's a about having the power to lie brazenly in everybody's faces even when they know they're being lied to. Russians are literally buck broken in the sense of fact or fiction, it is meaningless. The tsars word is truth.
>Doesn't this cope make Russia look even worse?
It is not a cope, it is a STRATEGY.
With this and Peskovs statement that "ukraine is demilitarized" Putin is building an exit for himself, clearly a decision has been reached in Putins circle that Ukraine war is FUBAR.
This "Ukraine and westoids" deceived us good-natured russians while we had a treaty - enables bunch of legalese bullshit for future(i.e. never recognizing any border with UA for future frickery, warcrime bla bla), excuses losses (attacked us while we had a truce), enable s to say "russia would've won if it wanted", saves (at least in pretend) the "russia stronk" mythos etc etc.
This is not some random statement, its clearly part of a calculated exit plan.
You’re probably right, if all of this just isn’t fake news. Meanwhile they’ve entrenched hard and poured mines all across the front. They aren’t going to advance through their own minefields so they may be just stay where they are.
None of that matters since nobody believes what Russians say.
Agreed, I just hope we continue to frick Russia for this shit.
>pay for all property damage
>pay $1m for every dead Ukie
>only when 2% of Russian GDP is directed as such will santions be lifted
>any reduction under 2% of GDP will result in sanctions being returned
2% ? Say 4 or so
>received tons of gear and equipment from NATO
>demilitarized
Lol. Who would fall for that?
Didn't you see the destroyed Bradleys? Ukraine has no more NATO equipment. Trust Z.
why are you cropping the real original picture nafo troon?
If I unfocus my eyes it's like that one Animal Collective album cover.
found waldo
Way to make me waste 3mb of data
Superior Soviet equipment was destroyed, and replaced with inferior westoid trash. Demilitarization is complete.
It's a narrative for russian population. What are they going to do about being lied in their face, occupy red square and defeneatrate Putin? They're being told
>this is why we're gonna pull out, don't bother asking questions
>Doesn't this cope make Russia look even worse?
It's just one strain of propaganda for their domestic audience. "Look at how fair we were with Ukraine, giving them every chance to stop being HATO nazis, but alas they rejected our goodwill sortie"
It’s Putin go to cope. Whenever he fricks up he tells everyone he got duped. First he got duped by NATO on Eastern Europe, them by Ukraine at Minsk, then by Ukraine on the grain deal, the the EU duped him on gas and now Ukraine again it seems. Really now Putin is just a trusting guy who gets duped all the time.
As Sun Tzu said: appear weak when you are weak
This has been a larp of the pro Russian Twitter sphere for over a year now. You just finding out?
Frick off.
Secret neutrality treaty? For what purpose?
Dmitry Peskov declared that russia has mostly demilitarized ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin suddenly had a stroke.
Peskov declaring "demilitarization" goal achieved and Putin waving this made up deal to cameras. Russia is preparing the retreat from Ukraine, by selling the idea to home crowd as NOT a military defeat but getting tricked by those pesky lying ukronazis!
>Completely flies in the face of their "muh feint" narrative they pushed originally
>A supposedly huge breach of an agreement only got revealed a year later for no fricking reason
>No explanation as to why they didn't attempt to retake the land if this was the case
A more authoritarian version of me would advocate strangling people for such dishonesty
None of their other lies were very convincing anyway, they may as well just keep inventing new ones, people are dumb enough to listen to them it's possible the Muscovites may fabricate something people want to believe eventually.
>A more authoritarian version of me would advocate strangling people for such dishonesty
It's a power-lie, if you know they know that you're lying and don't say a word, you have power over them in russia. The people are tormented by these "I can say it in your face and you cannot do anything" type of things often.
Strangulation usually comes when someone questions authority etc. Such is life in vatnikstan.
Basically this.
The term "Vranyo" is thrown around incorrectly a lot but this is a perfect example of it.
The vast majority (99%+) of even the most hardcore vatniks inside russia know this is bullshit. The people spouting it know it's bullshit and that the people they're spouting it to know it's bulshit but they go along with it regardless. Why? Because if they didn't that means they'd have to start asking uncomfortable questions like where all the money that was supposed to go to the army's modernization went.
Of course moronic contrarians in the west often fall for these obvious lies because they reason "Well I cant trust western media so russian media might have a point!".
Russia is filled to the absolute brim with these obvious lies that everyone tells but no one believes, some include
>Russia going easy on ukraine, only using a fraction of their power
>Ukraine is filled with Nazis
>Russia can take on NATO
>The west is collapsing
and so on
A less and less sympathetic me is finding it harder to argue against glassing the plains of mordor for good.
It's even more dumb than that. Turkey and ukraine can literally say such an agreement never happened. But I guess such things don't matter because vatniks being vatniks will only ever believe putin. putin could literally say zelensky fondled his daughter and that's why he invaded.. and vatniks would believe it.
Ironically, Zelensky did in fact fondle his daughter. His son-in-law's name is Igor Zelensky.
Come on now, you have to better in your trolling attempts 2/10
kek, misread what you first sent
funny thing about that is apparently the chief editor of meduza ain't a bed of roses either
must be the water in russia or something
Putin is meeting Erdogan this month, probably to try and convince turkiye to back their lie
I guarantee you that /misc/ will buy it and act like this was always the narrative.
It doesn't matter. The common russian is spineless and will never call out Putin even when he's blatantly lying, while the vatniks will believe literally anything he says.
not weapons but russians do seem to be the world's cope champions
Remember the time the Americans got the White House burned down and then wrote a song where they actually won? Seems like Russia isn't even close to the true champions of cope.
As an American, I can tell you that nobody remembers the war of 1812, much less any songs about it.
>what is the Star Spangled Banner
That was based on the War of 1812? Huh... I always assumed it was based on the Revolutionary War.
> American education
As an American, I can tell you nobody actually knows any of the lyrics to that song beyond "Oh say can you see, by the dawn's early light"
>I'm an idiot and am proud of it
Good for you.
Prove me wrong. Find ten Americans and see how much of that song they can sing.
We literally study it in school, dude.
I learned all the state capitals in elementary, too. Does that mean I can tell you the state capital of Nebraska?
Hell, how many Americans know the state capitals of California, Illinois, New York, and Washington?
>I'm surrounded by idiots and am proud of it
Again, good for you.
anon, if you can find me more than 10% of people in NYC (or any other place on the other side of the country) who can tell you the capital of Washington is Olympia, I will be astonished.
You will probably find more people who mix up Washington the state with Washington DC.
>Washington is Olympia
I thought it was Seattle
The capital of Illinois isn't Chicago, it's Springfield.
New York's isn't NYC, it's Albany.
California's isn't LA, or SD, or San Jose, or SF, it's Sacramento.
If you don't live near these states, this is basically pointless knowledge.
We don't sing the state capitals before every sporting event in the country. Omaha Sacramento Springfield Albany Spokane.
3/5. I'll take it.
Not anymore. Teachers are too busy teaching them "whole-word reading" and "how to be a unicorn" and "how to satisfy older men".
I'm an american, I know the entire song, as well as the backstory to it. If you don't, then get the frick out of the U.S.
Anon, believe it or not your freedom also includes being free to not participate in moronic political rituals.
shut the frick up you gays
> Of those who claim to know all the words, only 39 percent know what follows the line "whose broad stripes and bright stars," the survey found.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/WaterCooler/story?id=124484&page=1
As an actual American I can confirm everything you said is wrong and that you have to go back to your third world shithole Jose.
I'm not even american and I know that
>"whole-word reading"
qrd?
Speak for yourself. You're a bad American.
No one cares about that homosexual drinking song. We're just waiting for the boomers to die so we can make the some from America World Police our anthem instead.
I’d literally move to America
Written by a Canadian.
You are fricking moroner and must surround yourself with fools.
Fricking Christ this is wrong.
Lol, sorry my lack of knowledge about a 200 year old war offended you so much.
As someone that isn't American, I have to say something to you and it's going to hurt... You're a fricking homosexual. The fact that you knew this about the Star Spangled Banner and actually give enough of a shit to make an obviously but blasted post of it is pathetic. You're letting burgers live rent free in your head. You are so assmad and obsessed with American superiority that you have internalized their culture more deeply than they have and probably more so than your own. It's fricking pathetic, bro. Step back.
> The fact that you knew this about the Star Spangled Banner and actually give enough of a shit to make an obviously but blasted post of it is pathetic
Not them but why? It’s the national anthem. You learn about it a bunch in school. Everyone knows what their national anthem is about.
Or is this all just you seething and projecting because you hate your culture and have to invade ours?
Isn't the American Anthem Amazing Grace though?
I see them singing that all the time at big events and hardly ever hear them sing Star-Spangled Banner.
Clearly you don't go to many sporting events.
>
The Battle of New Orleans
Ramesses II with his battle of Kadesh has been the world champion of military cope for some 3300 years and no one has ever come close to dethroning him.
The Hittites kicking his ass resulted in more Egyptian texts and monuments, all claiming it as a glorious victory, than all known battles combined for hundreds of years after Kadesh.
The song isnt about winning. It's about enduring and surviving. The British threw everything they had a naval fort which was completely overmatched and ended up losing the battle which kept America from losing the war completely.
Yeah the song is more "The British spent all night shooting at the thing and their aim sucked."
Set to a drinking song.
russia is satire
Last time I went to argentina they had the falklands map on their currency, and were showing some cartoon in the plane on the heroic war against the evil english
And coincidently both Russians and Argentinians are both forever seething at the British.
Wait, now international treaties have the same NDAs that prostitutes sign when they frick rich people?
>Started invasion due to garbage intel
>Lost invasion due to garbage peace talks
Why can't Putin simply say
>I want to rebuild the soviet union and reannext the territories we previously held. We had to back then because of gorbacev's stupidity, short sightedness and servilism towards the americans, but now no more. We are strong, we are powerful again, and it's about time that we show the world that the ideals of communism are not dead yet, and we will rise to guide eurasia according to Lenin 's teachings, for the glory of the motherland and socialism
Or shit like that. Ruskies are still very patriotic so they would get really riled up, plus they constantly reminisce about the good soviet old days so openly invading ukraine would be unanimously supported.
Instead he had to invent one weak lie after another, because he lied so much he can't stop now. He even knows nobody believes that shit in the west, but he just had to do it, because he's a chronic liar
Something tells me going up on stage and saying "We're going to invade Eastern Europe and half Germany" probably wouldn't have gone down well on the international stage. Also I think being honest is anathema to a citizen of the Soviet Union where your whole life depended on your ability to bullshit and graft.
He does not need to do shit on the home propaganda front, Russians are buckbroken serfs. He could live broadcast himself driving around moscow spitting in the face of babuschkas with dead sons and running over small kids, they would still not dare oppose great tsar.
Because the Soviet Union always larped as totes voluntary union of states
He basically did. Presumably had it taken down out of sheer embarrassment.
It's amazing how amerisharts continue to act like they don't understand what russia wants.
if russia can't get its own story straight how are americans supposed to know?
Link https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html
These people... for fricks sake. Did it ever occur to Putin that maybe unifying with Ukraine would be peacefully possible by being a worthy ally and not a backstabbing c**t?
The USA didn't establish all of its alliances in Europe through threats and invasions it did it by offering members actual perks that made the defensive alliance attractive.
And speaking of the myth of American interference Bush Sr. when the USSR was breaking up literally went to Ukraine and gave them a speech urging them to stay with Russia but the Russians being such buttholes made the Ukrainians even avoid the advice of an American President just to not be associated with Russia.
For all it's talk people don't want to ally with Russia because they just aren't a very good ally. They rob, lie, and psyop their 'friends' constantly. They are so corrupt that there isn't any room for honest people to grow or get ahead. And now the Russians have shown that they can't even use their military in an effective fashion to achieve what should be very easy goals.
If Russia was ever able to self reflect and solve it's own domestic issues the world might actually be in trouble. But they are only going to sink further into irrelevance if they don't fix their corruption problem.
STOP CENSORING CONSERVATIVES!
>Did it ever occur to Putin that maybe unifying with Ukraine would be peacefully possible by being a worthy ally and not a backstabbing c**t?
Not after Euromaidan and not within his lifetime, he was well aware of that. Besides, if you look at fricking Poland of all places and then at Russia, it's immediately clear which way you ought to go. Making Ukraine a Russian ally would require Russia to become the superpower it claims to be and not the living, 19th century, fossil it has been throughout the 20th and 21st century.
To make Russia a true competitor to Europe, it's a task far too demanding for a terrified ex-spook and probably too demanding for the best minds in the whole world.
Russia is unable to solve the domestic problems, because many of them are by design. Russia is not a country, it's a colonial empire. There is a reason why all the other colonial empires (barring some token holdings) dissolved after WW2 at the latest.
I guess what's really baffling is that they talk about the USA as this dastardly enemy behind all of their woes. When time and again the USA has tried to help them out even going so far as having motherfricking Bush Sr. give a speech to Ukraine urging them to stay with Russia. Even agreeing with the planed "New Union Treaty" and pushing for it... Only for the Russians themselves to sour the entire plan with their failed August Coup that pushed Ukraine and others even further away from wanting to remain partners with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Union_Treaty
Ever since the USSR collapsed it has just been one long string of them invading their neighbors, the USA making excuses for them and pandering to them, The Russians doing it again in a different place, crying more crocodile tears, etc.
Why the frick does the usa cover Russia's ass so much? Its like a parent covering for their spoiled hellspawn of a child again.
>Why the frick does the usa cover Russia's ass so much?
We need worthy opponents.
>We need worthy opponents.
That argument falls apart the second you apply that to Russia
>That argument falls apart the second you apply that to Russia
a fact that's been revealed to the public only very recently. before the invasion everybody took russia's big words on them having a capable military as truth. MIC's all throughout the western hemisphere thrived for decades on that assumption. if there isn't a big bad on the outside, people instead start fighting their fellow man out of pettiness
Ah, you meant the perceived threat and not the actual threat. Yeah, some say china is going to be filling that void now
it is going to be even funnier when changs are exposed to what they really have been the last millennia or two militarily. Given their proportional size to everybody around them they should have at least pushed the snow chimps out of Siberia long ago.
Burgers are so distraught at the lack of any serious enemies that the biggest threat to them is home grown woke marxist infestation trying to rot them from inside out
>home grown woke marxist infestation trying to rot them from inside out
Its working
Russia is a US puppet to keep EU reined in
Americans are not nearly as villainous as the world makes them out to be and while they do enjoy a good fight every now and then they understand that it's better for everyone that after the fighting is done for there to be a move towards rebuilding and reconciliation.
Unlike most of the rest of the world where they just beat the shit out of an enemy, make unreasonable demands for concessions, then leave them to suffer without any help. Yes there are some instances where the US has been rather shitty to old enemies (namely the Taliban) but for the most part once the fighting is done we prefer if people can just get along.
Which for the most part works except in those rare instances when it runs into a country like Russia which is so far up its own ass and hopped up on arrogance and dreams of imperial destiny that it simply can't suffer to live in a world where Russia isn't the center of attention, that you end up with tragedies like the war in Ukraine.
Paradoxically, the Russians would probably respect the USA more if the USA was half as bad as their propaganda makes them out to be.
>Yes there are some instances where the US has been rather shitty to old enemies (namely the Taliban)
To be fair, they refused to hand over the terrorist's that did 9/11. That event got the blood of every American heated so refusing to hand over those responsible was a pretty dumb move, don't know why they did that.
>Making Ukraine a Russian ally would require Russia to become the superpower it claims to be and not the living, 19th century, fossil it has been throughout the 20th and 21st century.
Honestly the Russians just not being backstabbing manipulative buttholes would go a long ways towards making them an ally worth a damn. They've got all this land and resources and they don't hardly make productive use of it at all.
>To make Russia a true competitor to Europe, it's a task far too demanding for a terrified ex-spook and probably too demanding for the best minds in the whole world.
I don't know anon. They were in the perfect position to become what China became after the collapse and instead they turned away from the West, handed all of their industry over to incompetent ex-party morons and KGB agents. Then they jealously wonder why China succeeded where they failed.
For all of it's issues you at least have to give it to the Chinese that they understood the value of cooperation and using the state to minimize internal corruption instead of proliferating it.
>They were in the perfect position to become what China became
Another failure?
Euromaidan was caused by putin going full moron with Yanukovich.
>Euromaidan was caused by putin going full moron with Yanukovich.
Which in turn is the result of 19th century colonial strategy.
>Russia
>1000 year old country
Kek
Kyiv is older and not part of modern Russia sorry, Moscow is 876 years old and was tiny as frick, not more than 1000 years old like Kyiv.
He can't even tell the truth in his propaganda kek.
Threadly reminder that the Kievan Rus was a prosperous and worthy princely Kingdom that had great relationships with Europe, and that it was razed by mongols, whereby Muscovy, a backwater shithole, hijacked the Rus name. The entirety of Russian culture is theft of other, greater ones.
I'm not sure his remaining trading partners that are helping him get around the sanctions through parallel import, mainly the Caucasian and Central Asian counties, are gonna be thrilled about a vocal admission of being the next to the chopping block.
>the ideals of communism are not dead yet, and we will rise to guide eurasia according to Lenin 's teachings, for the glory of the motherland and socialism
He's a pure kleptocrat. He doesn't give a shit about communism. Or free market capitalism for that matter.
So who is this lie for, specifically?
They already believe that the Ukies are mind-controlled, biologically-engineered, Satanic mutants who do don't actually exist because Ukraine doesn't exist because this map of the Russian Empire from 1720 says the don't.
I'm not entirely sure this even makes them look worse in their eyes.
It's also far, far too broad of a lie to be of any use for the international audience, because it falls apart as soon as anyone asks why they didn't bother to tell anyone about this until now?
Could it be that this lie is a lie specifically for Putin and the Oligarchs, so that when everything comes burning down around them, they can believe that if only those wily Ukies hadn't duped them with their duplicity, they would still have an a respected military, global influence and Siberia?
There were recent rumblings in Putin's war blogger press conference, something to the effect of a blogger asking, "Why did we retreat from Kiev? We almost had them!" And this pissed Putin off enough to say something like "Do you know what I knew then? Do you know why we pulled out? Of course you don't. I do." So this new thing is coming ex post facto to cover his ass from the idea of the rush to Kiev (ie the worst Russian military disaster in 50 years) not being Putin's fault but the fault of backstabbing Ukrainians.
Russians lie to insult you, not to deceive you.
homie what
>russian lies they do not lie to deceive but to insult you
They do both at the same time.
The Finnish culture of honesty is a barrier, created by purpose, to keep the Russian influence at minimum.
t. Finngay who learned all there is to learn about trusting Russians from his grandpa
"Don't lean on water and never trust a Russian"
Crimean Tatar proverb.
It's not a cope, it's the begining of a bigger mobilization. Basically they are going to say that they defeated Ukraine proper but that it's NATO proping them up, thus it's no longer a "special military operation" but a full scale war.
Anglos please ditch pronunciation respelling and learn IPA instead. It'll serve you well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet
Anon, I can only fit so many keys on a keyboard and it shouldn't take me a users manual and five minutes to write out a single sentence. There's probably a better way of doing things, but it is not combining all of the European Alphabets from the last 2000 years into one.
Unlike re-spelling, which is prone to confusion owing to the myriad different pronunciations of identical sequences of letters in English, IPA has characters devoted to the specific sounds the human vocal chords and mouth are capable of making. It's not perfect, but it works better than anything else. Most importantly, I am not suggesting that IPA should be used as a language, it's actually useless at that. But it is a very good tool for conveying proper pronunciation.
>we were merely pretending to be defeated
Huh?
>If you kill your enemy, they win
Who said it better Trudeau or Putin?
>South African president flies to Ukraine on Friday, Moscow the next day, ends the war.
Best BRICS member not taking anyone's shit.
Didn't the russians terror bomb Kyiv again while all the African presidents/diplomats were there to talk to zelensky?
No that was a lie, war propaganda, we had credible people there on the ground confirm, couldn't give a frick about either of you to be honest.
Wars over.
>the best BRICS member is the one without electricity for 12 hours a day and no clean water
Things must be truly dire in the global south.
Yes that's exactly why we went to China to complain, we were treatened with sanctions from our second biggest export partner, the US, over this Russian shitshow. It would have destroyed the country, a BRICS member.
Are you a Black person? Why did your misbegotten nation throw in its lot with BRIC?
I'm sorry, truly you have my deepest condolences.
Thanks it sucks.
Good on Cyril to visit Ukraine and then Russia yesterday and today though. I'm certain something remotely constructive is happening.
Do you live in one of the armored compounds or are you a nig
Doubtful, this shitshow will go on until either Ukraine pushes towards Azov and cuts Crimea off or Russia manages to force a stalemate, the stakes are too high for both sides
Africa does not have any leverage to do shit here.
The energy situation has gotten so bad, that there is a chance of a possible Total Grid Collapse which would send the entire country into a Mad Max LARP as everything stops working and they will left completely isolated from every country that isn't already bordering them.
Grid won't collapse, they're sabotaging coal fired power stations to manufacture an excuse to mass import Russian gas.
Actual ANC senior figures are behind the syndicates systematically destroying power here.
>Grid won't collapse, they're sabotaging coal fired power stations to manufacture an excuse to mass import Russian gas.
>Actual ANC senior figures are behind the syndicates systematically destroying power here.
OR....your country is run by Black folk?
No need for conspiracies, when answer is just obvious.
Didn't everything work just fine back in the apartheid days?
I'm not saying Black folk can't run a country, but seriously, Black folk can't run a country.
That's not what this is about, it's about creating a plausible excuse to mass trade Russian gas.
Perhaps, but SA had been struggling to function long before this war and its consequences
Yeah, Black folk can't manage countries. At best, they could hire wypipo to fix the issue
Criminals gonna criminal, I guess. We all have our masters.
You'll see the power crisis miraculously end when EU buys gas from Russia again after this shitshow.
>power crisis miraculously end
How something that doesn't exist could end?
>EU buys gas from Russia again
Why? After the war ended we buy gas from Ukraine.
>EU buy
>from Russia
>ever again
homie do you have any fricking clue how utterly delusional you are?
Europe does not givie a flying frick if you're some third world tinpot dictator as long as you deliver what was agreed. Then you get the delicious euromoniez pumped right up your third world ass, can drive around in a gold Mercedes and park your yacht in Monaco.
But if you try and rock the boat, not deliver on what was agreed and, worst of all, think you can frick with the money making, you end up outside.
Not becaeeu you may be corrupt, or a criminal. But becasue you cannot be trusted to deliver on what was agreed.
Sure, some private companies may return, once Putin is gone.
But when it comes to actual international dealings, Russia completely blew it. They threw away the one thing that actually matters, and that is trust.
The West knows they wil backstab, their own CSTO 'allies' know they will be abandoned, China knows that Russia's military is actually unable to perform a successful offensive into a direct niehgbor.
If Europe doesn't give a shit then how come they are still dependent on Rosatom and avoid sanctioning them?
Europe is not dependent on Rosatom, you fricking imbecile. Some Eastern EU states have Soviet-built nuclear plants, and due to nuclear security they are not sanctioning them.
Look up how much of Europe's enriched Uranium is delivered by Rosatom.
And it's not just old plants, they are still building new ones.
Looking into stuff like this and I was completely fricking stunned to learn that Russia still operates EIGHT RBMK-1000 reactors, and doesn't plan to decomission them until 2034. What the FRICK, that's completely insane.
I mean, the design itself isn't inherently flawed. If it were, there'd have been a couple more Chernobyls since and there haven't. What is wrong with it is it's lack of safeguards so when someone does frick up, shit hits the fan. Instead of a safe shutdown like western reactors. It's not significantly more prone to failure by itself than anything else is.
>What is wrong with it is it's lack of safeguards so when someone does frick up
Oh I'm well aware of that, I've fricked around with the simulator a few times
https://hartrusion.com/en/howto-simgenics-rbmk-1000-simulator/
great fun if you're this particular flavor of autism and want to experience pain like never before
Thanks for adding a new flavor to my autism anon.
DL links for others interested
>game
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111201234/https://www.simgenics.com/downloads/Chernobyl_Installer.zip
>manual
https://web.archive.org/web/20210201092546/https://simgenics.com/downloads/Chernobyl_The_Legacy_Continues_Information_and_Users_Guide.pdf
If you don't operate them like driveling morons because you're corrupt and need to run the safety test you lied about already doing, it should be fine.
Oh, you said Russia. I can see why your concerned.
Did they build containment buildings yet?
But it's all in decline now. Many countries that wanted to build NPP refused to cooperate with russia. Finland for example.
They are using russian help to maintain what's rest.
They could cut all ties right now if they actually meant it.
No they couldn't, it doesn't work that way with nuclear energy. But they already set course to reduce russian influence to 0.
>EU buys gas from Russia
Lol. This isn't going to happen. The only one who would even consider it is France, and only because they're the reason Russia has any working weapon systems at all, and why France is in the dog house diplomatically right now.
Power Crisis?It's not 2022 anymore and even that was mostly fearmongering.Germany didn't even dip below 60% of their reserves and they are already rising again.The EU has replaced russian gas and they won't start buying it again.
There is no membership in BRICS because there is no BRICS. It's a catchall polite term used by economists for populous shitholes countries, the financial world equivalent of "BIPOC", nothing more. There are no legal agreements between the countries, and it's not even a spiritual union as most of the countries hate each other.
Take your fricking meds and go back to school. I'm done posting here have a good one.
Literally a term made up by a Goldman-Sachs israelite to trick boomers with some money (back when older people had some money) into investing in volatile countries. "BRICS" consists of a country known mostly for its trannies, a country that will be gone by 2030, two shitholes at war, and a literal gaggle of Black folk who can't keep the lights on or the water faucets running.
Why do they do it? Why do they lie all the time? Not just once, not just twice, but dozens of times, multiple times a day, lie after lie after lie. It has to be pathological, there is no way a rational mind could think this is in any way helping them.
>Why do they lie all the time?
it's literally part of their culture. it probably started as a power play thing, being able to lie to someone's face and knowing they're powerless to do anything about it. but at some point it just became ingrained in how they live day to day.
>China has values based around thieving & cheating
>Russia has values based around lieing & shit-stirring
They truly are made for each other.
Surely they have a copy of the treaty they can show.
Buddyboy I had a verbal agreement with the last owner of this here Keev allowing me to withdraw my forces uncontested.
I don't know why Putin didn't do this sooner, same with the "We actually HAVE demilitarized Ukraine" cope. His supporters will believe any damn thing he says, so all he needs to do is declare he actually won/wasn't trying, pull out, and celebrate it as an overwhelming Russian victory. It's that easy!
>I don't know why Putin didn't do this sooner, same with the "We actually HAVE demilitarized Ukraine" cope
They would have paraded that all over if Ze caved and started peace talks as soon as Russia started begging for them.
Why he decided to go with this cope now I do not know.
Probably finally realizing it's a complete lost cause and hoping they can pull back and hang on to Crimea at least. Would explain the lengths they're going to in order to slow down any pushes towards the land bridge, massive fortifications, blowing dams, etc.
Gamblers fallacy and sunk cost.
>It worked in Crimea why isn't it working this time?
>We must win we've sacrificed too much to lose now!
Dictators aren't good at long term planning. They want to see results in their lifetime. Putin could have not invaded, tried to improve things domestically while continuing psyops against the west, then when it came time to step down hand pick another trusted hardliner who would continue his plans. Instead he sacrificed everything for nothing. He will be lucky to get out of this and save his own skin.
some commentators theorized how time is not on russia's side demography wise and in terms of ukraine's armament and them cozying up to EU and USA economically and eventually militarily, getting access to increasingly modern technology and arms.
putin basically had to grab ukraine in order to gain 35+ million citizens to offset the catastrophical demographic development in russia, while also robbing ukraine of all it's industrial capabilities, oil deposits and shit.
had he, or russia, waited another 5-10 or 20 years it would be even harder for them to "succesfully invade" ukraine because of this.
since russia's shitty aids ridden cleptocracy of a state can't develop shit and people tend to frick off to the west en masse, they gambled and are losing ever since it didn't go the way everybody expected it to go.
Those commentators obviously have no idea how Putin works and thinks.
Bet they also didn't expect him to attack.
arestovych talked about it in march of 2019. there were other people that knew about what was soon to come, but there were many different theories anyways and hindsight is 20/20. it's easy to pick some analysts prediction from a few years ago and say "see, he knew" while disregarding the 99% or experts who made wildly different predictions. europeans were always pussing around putin's shenanigans as long as they got gas flowing through the pipelines, merisharts were either belittling russia as a "regional power" or b***hing about europe's dependance on russian gas, and some very few were theorizing about how russia would try to grab ukraine in the near future.
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>how much of Europe's enriched Uranium is delivered by Rosatom.
Oh no, a whopping 20%.
And Rosatom is about ~5% of global production.
That's just the number for Uranium itself. Enrichment is a completely different matter.
If the treaty was signed, there is physical evidence of that... so can we see it?
I thought this was common knowledge? Yes, the Ukraine signed a preliminary peace treaty with Russia during the Istanbul negotiations back in March 2023. Yes, Boris Johnson had arrived in Kiev the next day and talked Zelensky into rescinding that treaty and continue the war. That was the point of no return when any political solution for this conflict was made impossible. Not that any of that matters anymore.
March 2022*
One of the officials from the Ukraine negotiation team even got assassinated by the SBU. Funny how fast that was memory holed.
>source
zombie talking point kek
Even if it was true, any treaty with Russia is worth toilet paper now so they deserve it. Imagine signing "muh neutrality" treaty with country that broke any agreements and starts genociding you.
>nottu dissu shittu again
It is not a complete lie.
The line of events was:
Invade,
get stuck near Kiev because roadblock and ukies using atgm, drones and manoads to blow up the stuck column.
Try to get some kind of victory by peace talks.
Maybe some agreement could be reached but it's difficult, thinks like neutrality are on the table.
Nato & Ukies realise that the Russians are in a very bad situation so they can likely extract a much better peace deal from them.
Putin dosen't agree to just go back to pre war borders with some more autonomy for Dombass but knows every day passes by the situation of the column is more and more dire, the air force is getting screwed by manpads while badly trained logistics specs are trying to unfrick the massive transport cluster frick which keeps getting fricked again the Ukrainians blow up something on the main roads.
Ultimately Putin claims that as a good will gesture they pull back, this was necessary as the column could ONLY go back.
This because the column was consuming more material to defend it's flanks than they could transport, much less also resupply the tip of the spear.
Going through the mudded and flooded fields was not possible.
Resupply through hostomel airport also was not possible, too much AA and the airport was still within Ukrainian artillery range.
So retreat was the only option until the ground dried up which would have been almost 3 months later.
What actress?
google image search says it's emma robert's laughing b***hface
This seems plausible. There really was no reason for Russia to retreat. Even though they were stretched thinner than they should have been, logistics was actually strong.
>logistics was actually strong.
Were we watching the same war? Logistical failure is why the war has lasted so long
Why would Russia sign a treaty with nazi keev junty, zsisters
We should call Georgia "Sakartvelo"
>The orcs left Helm's deep due to a treaty they made with Theoden
>Treacherous Theoden then sent his horsemen to mow down the orc forces who were leaving Helm's Deep as agreed
>News of ents destroying the dam near Isengard are fake news, the orcs destroyed it to deny the ent forces access to Isengard
>The dam was also destroyed by the treacherous ent forces whose foolish actions caused many ents and their hobbit auxiliaries to drown
>Lord Saruman has yet to make a statement regarding the dam destruction
They signed jackshit. He's literally living in lalaland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
>Ahead of the 29 March meeting Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan stated that Ukraine was ready to agree to 4 out of Russia’s 6 demands.[47] He claimed Ukraine was prepared to renounce NATO membership and to make Russian Ukraine's second official language.[47] According to Erdoğan Ukraine was not prepared to recognise the Russian occupation of Crimea or parts of Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts.[47] Ukraine proposed adopting a neutral status in exchange for security guarantees along the lines of NATO Article 5. The proposals also included a 15-year consultation period on the status of Russian-annexed Crimea and return of all Russian forces to their pre-invasion positions.[48] Russia's Ministry of Defense announced "drastic reduction of military activity" on the Kyiv and Chernihiv fronts, which, Russian presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky clarified, was not tantamount to a ceasefire.[49][50] In a televised meeting with military bloggers on 13 June 2023 Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed that Russia and Ukraine had on this day came to "a good agreement on how to resolve the current situation by peaceful means" but that the Ukrainians had "threw it away" after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kyiv after the (failed) Russian 2022 offensive on Kyiv.[51] According to Putin Ukraine had agreed to curb Neo-Nazism in Ukraine through the "introducing appropriate restrictions in the law in Ukraine", but this had failed to happen intentionally.[51] On 14 June 2023 President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko claimed, in an interview with Russia-1, that Ukrainian and Russian delegations had discussed the possibility of "some sort of a lease" of Crimea during the March 2022 negotiations.[47]
How is this news? Russians agreed to retreat from around kiev during the peace negotiations and then ukrainians withdrew from any negotiations right after this has been known the whole time
BAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHA
my fricking sides. man vovas wienersuckers are truly hopeless. orc army used any negotiations to try and move forward, still they done jack shit, got their asses whopped and now claim it was
> gesture of goodwill
there is no nation more pathetic than rus
Noone is talking about any gesture of goodwill, fricktard. They simply signed a treaty which the hohols disregarded as soon as russia withdrew its troops. Thats why you should never trust a israelite
>They simply signed a treaty
May we see it? Show the signed treaty.
>Thats why you should never trust a israelite
You're right, I don't trust Putin or his Bolsheviks!
>They simply signed a treaty which the hohols disregarded as soon as russia withdrew its troops
This never happened.
Meanwhile, in reality, Russia is so fricking down and out that they ask for crowd donated ERA bricks because they have run out.
They signed a neutrality-treaty after like one week of invasion? For what purpose?
>only goal is to decapitate regime
>within months sign "agreement" to withdraw
This is even more pathetic then I imagined.
If they were willing to sign a treaty why didn't they invite Ukies and Nato higher ups (to oversee) and basically say Ukies can do whatever they like EXCEPT join Nato as Russia doesn't want to be encircled?
This would make Russia look defensive (good in the eyes of the West) and allow them to continue trading with Europe and countries like Japan/South Korea - perhaps even giving them favourable deals in return for "encircling" the other big bad - China.
Give the Ukies a similar deal to Tito in Yugo, whereby Ukraine gets to be independently strong and can trade with both east and west without being reliant on either.
>Russia signs a treaty to pull out from several regions
>Ukraine scrapped the treaty
>Russia doesn't throw a fit about it
>Russia doesn't mention it at all
Why? It would make Ukraine look bad in public relations if they actively went against an attempt to move towards peace.
necause it's all made up, another attempt by the kremlin to dictate the narrative.
it starts off as half-assed social media reports and soon, should there be be not too much headwind against it, it will be mentioned by state tv, as well as pro-russian 'jeets, Black folk and chinks as if it's always been fact
Of course I know why, but assuming it was true, Russia is still moronic. Its sorta in the playbook to lie about everything possible. Chinks might boast and misrepresent the narrative or whatever, but Russia is really the only country on the planet who lies so blatantly about the most objectively wrong shit. Remember back in January, the spokesperson for Russia's MoD claimed they killed 4 American Bradley IFVs. This came a week after America even announced they were going to provide Bradleys to Ukraine in the first place. Meaning it was physically impossible for Russia to have destroyed them becuase they weren't even in Ukraine yet, and wouldn't be for several more months.
And its not even some Russian talk show or some random Twitter shitter, it was Russia's official MoD statement. How anybody continues to believe Russia on literally anything they say if they aren't being paid is beyond me.
>How anybody continues to believe Russia on literally anything they say if they aren't being paid is beyond me
it's not something that can be fixed by objective truth.
iirc it was solzhenitsyn who explained it that those sort of people hold it like a religious belief, they cannot be convinced otherwise even if they'd see the truth with their own eyes, brainwashed beyond salvation basically.
>Russia is really the only country on the planet who lies so blatantly about the most objectively wrong shit
Moskva will return to port one day, after getting the milk and cigarettes from the store. Then HATO will know all things.
as I remember wasn't the first offensive from either side after the Kiev retreat Russian offensives around Mariupol?
why did Russia break their own treaty?
One year.They had one year to come up with something.And it's the same old gesture of good will cope.