>Karl Childers is a developmentally disabled Arkansas man whose parents physically and mentally abused him when he was young. He has been in the custody of the state mental hospital since the age of 12 after murdering his mother and her teenage lover, who was also his tormentor, with a sling blade.
Are all callsigns chosen to sound kinda cool to the average civilian normie, but in reality are designed to roast the shit out of the bearer?
>Are all callsigns chosen to sound kinda cool to the average civilian normie, but in reality are designed to roast the shit out of the bearer?
Yes, oh yes.
Yeah pretty much all callsigns are insults or movie referances.
Just roll with it and embrace it and get funny ones to stick to other people.
I have gotten the same one at every unit and purely becuase my name and a movie.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Get the frick back to your post Dirty Harry before I complain to the CO again
>Ukrainians simply using BTR engines to power EW suites provided by US/NATO >Not even using EW suites on planes >Enough to make russian loitering munitions and orlans eat shit >Russians cant arty the jamming stations for some reason >Literally not even 20% of US EW capabilities
So this is the power of US Military
>all shills were redeployed to most important sectors of /k/ and /misc/
This actually might be true. With the Wagner coup and the Zaporizhia front (dead Leopards!) commanding so much attention from the higher ups, reports about anything happening on the Dnipro might not have filtered up yet. Hence the bot/troll farms not paying much attention to it yet.
Obviously not much of this yet, but it'd be kinda a clusterfrick for Russia if the Russians had to defend occupied southern Ukraine on two fronts.
all shills were redeployed to most important sectors of /k/ and /misc/
There's significantly less shills now because Prigozhin was responsible for many if not most shill operations, including ones targeting PrepHole and western sites. That's all gone now.
Yeah. A heads up for new people, you can tell when someone is part of an organized shill campaign or otherwise very invested in a particular community when they go on huge rants whenever you even suggest they're involved. Kiwifarms is notorious for this, as are a lot of cliquey discords/steam groups, and proper shill operations are no exception. Guilt and shame are some of the biggest negative motivators for westerners and they use it to the fullest extent, hence why the message is less "no, there isn't a concerted effort to shill here by Russians, why would you think that?" and more "you loser troony homosexual, you should have a nice day, lmao imagine thinking anyone thinks you're important enough to talk to, you're irrelevant, you'll be bred out" and shit.
At first it feels stupid but over time it grates you down and makes you less likely to question it, which is the entire point. It's meant to be insulting, almost threatening. The message is "we can do whatever we want and if you try to even point out we're threatening you we'll make it worse, so just integrate that feeling of shame and shut the frick up and die".
On a completely unrelated note a Pantsir battery recently had problems detecting a Storm Shadow until it was basically a few hundred meters away, and even then it had to rely on infrared for tracking. I can't wait until they see what JASSM-ER is like.
Yeah. A heads up for new people, you can tell when someone is part of an organized shill campaign or otherwise very invested in a particular community when they go on huge rants whenever you even suggest they're involved. Kiwifarms is notorious for this, as are a lot of cliquey discords/steam groups, and proper shill operations are no exception. Guilt and shame are some of the biggest negative motivators for westerners and they use it to the fullest extent, hence why the message is less "no, there isn't a concerted effort to shill here by Russians, why would you think that?" and more "you loser troony homosexual, you should have a nice day, lmao imagine thinking anyone thinks you're important enough to talk to, you're irrelevant, you'll be bred out" and shit.
At first it feels stupid but over time it grates you down and makes you less likely to question it, which is the entire point. It's meant to be insulting, almost threatening. The message is "we can do whatever we want and if you try to even point out we're threatening you we'll make it worse, so just integrate that feeling of shame and shut the frick up and die".
On a completely unrelated note a Pantsir battery recently had problems detecting a Storm Shadow until it was basically a few hundred meters away, and even then it had to rely on infrared for tracking. I can't wait until they see what JASSM-ER is like.
Completely unrelated too but it's worth mentioning, the spam on /gif/ has stopped, or at least lessened now. A week ago we were at 30-40 outright slide threads at any given time, now it's more like 10.
wait there was spam on gif? What was it, black dicks?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Trannies hanging themselves, basedjacks, bbc porn, deliberately low quality stuff, YLYL threads (but the really bad ones with the cranked up audio etc), "bbc threads" that look normal but are jumpscares, etc.
The board was near unusable (like you couldn't even find a WMAF thread because it would be spammed with shit or slided by 90 BBC YLYL threads) and after the coup in Russia it spontaneously stopped. My filters went from 60-70 threads to like 20, most of which are just me disliking rekt threads and so on.
Of note they also did the meta thread bullshit they do here too.
11 months ago
Anonymous
wait there was spam on gif? What was it, black dicks?
When I say "slide thread" I mean shit like this. I honestly have no issue if someone wants to get off to SFM videos or BBC stuff or trap stuff, like power to you. But this shit pisses me off.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The frick does it even mean? That trannies will chud out or what?
11 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/6hLvlD4.png
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When I say "slide thread" I mean shit like this. I honestly have no issue if someone wants to get off to SFM videos or BBC stuff or trap stuff, like power to you. But this shit pisses me off.
Lmao so it really was uncle Prigo's shill farms behind the bbc spam in the last few years.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't necessarily think it's that, but maybe something internally happened in Russia that lead to a lot of people getting laid off. I've never thought the shilling here was organic, even the most hateful /misc/ user has no reason to sit on /gif/ posting the same troony threads day in day out like clockwork for like 3 years. If you think about it in terms of stifling any western discussion forum with relatively lax moderation it makes a lot more sense.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>maybe something internally happened in Russia that lead to a lot of people getting laid off
Well there was that recent coup attempt
If the rumours are true and king monke defused the situation by getting to pringles' family then that would make the wagner funded shill farms a loose end to be tied off
Don't worry about the workers, they have industry experience and a reputation for effective shilling so they'll find other farms to work at no trouble
I expect the shilling rates to begin increasing again over the next few weeks as the internal political situation in Russia stabilises and market forces bring the now unemployed shills into new or expanded farms
We could always check the daily post/user rate and see if there is a dip.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We could always check the daily post/user rate and see if there is a dip.
11 months ago
Anonymous
On /gif/ at least it does look like a decent hit to posting during the coup followed by a spike afterwards.
11 months ago
Anonymous
As for pic related it's hard to tell. Definitely a disruption during the event but that's to be expected. My personal theory is that it isn't so much the amount of posting but the nature of it, so you shouldn't see much of a change in absolute post numbers or rate but instead a change in user behavior.
Personally I think an analysis of IPs and bans over time would be more indicative, since on places like /k/ bans should be directly correlated to shitposters. Same thing with IP changes. But I'm not sure where we could get that information.
11 months ago
Anonymous
it looks statistically insignificant. Where's the raw data ? I'dl like to analyse it
In Prighozin's case, because he isn't working for the Russian government anymore it seems, with Wagner either being gone or going actually independent. Plus the way it works is that the spam shit is done in actual physical locations, in offices, servers etc, all of that most likely got confiscated by the FSB or just shut down with Prigo and company hauling ass to Belarus.
Internet bullshit done outside of Prigho's responsibility are likely still operating as before.
Prigozin has turned his coat to Lukashenko. People talk about how Belarus is a puppet for Russia, but the actual political situation is dynamic and the result of a complicated struggle between Luka and Russia that dates back to the Yeltsin days. Wagner will allow Luka to be more independent, not more dependent on Russia.
You were right. FSB tard handlers were eating their code books and their thirdie/diaspora charges were on indeed looking for scam call center jobs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
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I disagree based on the huge wave of posts containing "HAHA, YOU BELIEVED THE COUP WAS REAL? YOU'RE A VATNIG/ZIGGER, REMEMBER FIREHOSE OF LIES" etc.
Maybe another branch took over?
Those came after. During the coup itself there was nearly complete radio silence, with a few unique vatniks (or with the scale of this place maybe just one) saying "xaxaxa must be a fake to feint Kiev!".
100%, when prigo took rostov and the 2ish days before leaving for belarus the shills basically disappeared.
Only people responding where chuggers saying off-the-rails bs
You were right. FSB tard handlers were eating their code books and their thirdie/diaspora charges were on indeed looking for scam call center jobs.
I disagree based on the huge wave of posts containing "HAHA, YOU BELIEVED THE COUP WAS REAL? YOU'RE A VATNIG/ZIGGER, REMEMBER FIREHOSE OF LIES" etc.
Maybe another branch took over?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Those came after. During the coup itself there was nearly complete radio silence, with a few unique vatniks (or with the scale of this place maybe just one) saying "xaxaxa must be a fake to feint Kiev!".
11 months ago
Anonymous
I remember some of the posts during the event but not as intense, things certainly picked up hard when Prig took the deal, like it's in overdrive to make up lost time or something. I agree though it's not organic, maybe some kind of skeleton crew with contingency plan hastily made just in case to gaslight and muddying the situation.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't get why astroturf on PrepHole at all though. The place is of much lower value compared to large social media sites. I suppose it's a smaller time investment due to the anonymous nature of it, but still.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean it is a semi-popular site and it takes like 2 guys, some pastas and a translator to shit up the site for hours.
Make two convicts in some Chinese prison work and the costs are single digit cents/hour.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Operating costs for shill farms are so low that any site with potential value is worth targeting
11 months ago
Anonymous
this
Operating costs for shill farms are so low that any site with potential value is worth targeting
I've seen shills commenting on literal who regional newspaper sites
plus the added chance of radicalizing some /misc/tards, russia/ussr never skipped an occasion to gain some useful idiots
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, those came way after. During the shitshow proper, they were dead silent
11 months ago
Anonymous
especially at the time when priggy released the vid claiming they'd taken rostov there were zero shills and the whole of PrepHole was making fun of russia, I was seeing threads on PrepHole and PrepHole etc it was great.
Starstreak is one of the best manpads in Ukraine by the Ukrainians own admission and has helicopter, aircraft and drone kills. One of the guys with it got 26 kills with it iirc. I will never understand this meme.
It's good so they need to say that it's shit because in their heads self-actualization is not only a real thing but the means with which to defeat the west and it's "wunderwaffe"
Are they deploying several S-300 on the other side and up the river?
I don't think it's possible or particularily clever to transport S-300 battery to the dachas,
Afu units near the dachas? Isn’t dacha like russian version of a sauna? Have they already regained control of the kitchen and pushed afu back towards the elevator?
it's a village called Dachi on the Russian occupied side of the antonovsky bridge (which presumably has Dachas)
Some UA light infantry moved a bit forward while some others set up some 120mm mortars in Dachi, and started hitting some of the Russian positions, presumably harassing Russian artillery units.
They can't detect the mortars as well and don't seem to have a ton of ammo (presumably wasted it bombarding fricking civilians evacuating after the floods), and tried calling in air-support, only for anti-air to have been brought up while the Arty units were too busy being mortared to hit them.
The last couple of days of Ukrainian talking heads being like "Look the crossing over the Dniper isn't that big a deal, there's been heaps of crossings coming and going over the last few months, this is just small, okay?" Might have clued us in idk.
>Maybe RF had trouble getting the information up the chain of command.
YEAH MAYBE. MAYBE THE TIMING WAS RELATED THERE HUH.
>US is supplying more BRADLEY'S and idk some other thing could maybe be water tight work for swamps or something who knows.
Afu units near the dachas? Isn’t dacha like russian version of a sauna? Have they already regained control of the kitchen and pushed afu back towards the elevator?
poor reading comprehension of the third world strikes again
I've started staying benchod bloody bastard in real life while pretending to be an angry indian man when I drop a spoon or something. It's very pleasing.
I quit PrepHole in like 2007 and came back in 2012... since then whenever I get instrusive thoughts or something I say 'Black person' out loud. I really need to stop doing it. If I do it in company I just say 'I said knickers'. Trying my best to quit it, it's a shitty nervous trick and the word is so satisfying to say and I see a lot of black people just using it casually so it just sort of embeds in. Anyway I am going to do this instead now.
Thanks for reading my blog post, you might have helped me.
Yeah, I mutter Black person too, not even racist. I make up stupid songs and such.
I quit PrepHole in like 2007 and came back in 2012... since then whenever I get instrusive thoughts or something I say 'Black person' out loud. I really need to stop doing it. If I do it in company I just say 'I said knickers'. Trying my best to quit it, it's a shitty nervous trick and the word is so satisfying to say and I see a lot of black people just using it casually so it just sort of embeds in. Anyway I am going to do this instead now.
Thanks for reading my blog post, you might have helped me.
I'm glad English isn't my mother tongue (inb4 >ESL lol) because that would definitely be the case as well. My first thought about annoying people is usually along the lines of "you quintuple Black person", but that can't accidentally roll off my tongue if I'm speaking in another language.
I hope.
This is why I avoid using swear language on this site. I know one day I'll slip up and write "homosexuals" when texting my boss and instantly he will stop being my boss.
Thought I was the only one.
Said Black person out loud in my lab yesterday, thankfully I was the only one in there kek.
Yeah, I mutter Black person too, not even racist. I make up stupid songs and such.
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Holy shit, I thought I was only one that did this. Never let it slip around people though
This is why I avoid using swear language on this site. I know one day I'll slip up and write "homosexuals" when texting my boss and instantly he will stop being my boss.
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I'm glad English isn't my mother tongue (inb4 >ESL lol) because that would definitely be the case as well. My first thought about annoying people is usually along the lines of "you quintuple Black person", but that can't accidentally roll off my tongue if I'm speaking in another language.
I hope.
I swear part of the issue is board culture, and I mean that in a not necessarily bad way, too. Black person, sure fine its a word. Double Black person, triple Black person homosexual, gaystick, my Black person in christ, etc.? I'm sorry but some of these combinations and neologisms I've only ever seen on PrepHole, and they're pretty damn funny, just as standalones with no mean intent.
I also find myself actively catching myself whenever something stupid happens or someone does something especially stupid and make sure I don't call them a moronic double Black person brownoid out of pure reflex.
I don't even work around that many minorities, none of which have ever been particularly Black personly.
That, plus I think that other anon is onto something with autism maybe not helping. >.t actual sperg
I've started staying benchod bloody bastard in real life while pretending to be an angry indian man when I drop a spoon or something. It's very pleasing.
When ever I lie or am outraged I use an Indian voice and mannerisms now.
A few simple building blocks, but the combinations are endless. Like Lego. >BENCHOD BLOODY FRICKING MOTHER BLOOD b***h
It's just so satisfying. It rolls off the tongue so effortlessly.
What's funny is I haven't seen anybody but me use BENCHOD recently, so for you to bring that up it means your brown and my choice of using that has mentally broke you, so I will continue to use it until you thirdies frick off.
Hope the one rupee a month for shitting up our board is worth it!
Wouldn't Ukraine have to set up a Bailey Bridge over the Antonevsky Bridge to maintain supply? They definitely don't have the amphibious capabilities to sustain a large scale offensive across a body of water, right?
Bailey bridges are certainly possible, but not really feasible in the modern era because they are trivial to destroy. That's why the Russians were using barges for a while, smaller target.
As far as I can tell it's just light infantry with mortars harassing the Russians by setting up on the other side, with the "big" goal being pushing back their arty, either with the mortars or by spotting for larger arty back on the Ukrainian side. (this was probably spurred on mostly by the c**ts shelling the civilians who were and still are being evacuated as a result of the Russians blowing up the dam)
They're probably mostly using rafts and crossing enough for small caches during the night, then only crossing back for casevac / rotation.
Not ruling out that maybe, not likely but maybe something bigger is in the works, but I think they've just reasoned out that the Russians there don't really have enough to push back light infantry, and don't have enough arty shells to do grid square bombardments anymore.
I figure the goal here is to lure as much rissian material as possible west of melitopol so that it gets trapped when the Ukranian offensive cuts the land bridge but that's just speculation
If they cross with armor this would be serious, But as soon as russians redeploy their armor it will be over. The thing is, can they afford to redeploy armor???
I imagine some dudes at GE or Raytheon are furiously trying to draw up man-portable anti-drone EW units. Signal loss is the bane of drone operators and it theoretically shouldn't be too difficult to produce a squad-level drone jammer that could interfere with most civilian drone models.
Honestly probably be someone dragging around a backpack generator.
Once you reach small engine weight/size ICE vastly our performs batteries in weight to powerstorage and power generation.
Plus refueling is faster than recharging.
>piece of shrapnel gets into generator >jammer disabled >fast forward to your parents seeing you slowly die to shrapnel on the internet while slavshit techno is blasting and there are 4 watermarks on the screen >the unit's insignia watermark looks like a 12 year old tried to draw an american units insignia in art class and got a C
Do you think the next call of duty, etc, will feature drone dropped grenades?
That seems more like a Medal of Honor thing, to strictly recreate a contemporary war. New CoD is more likely to have a polished concept of suicide drones/mini-bombers.
This is almost definitely either a feint or a setup for shit way down the line, but if Russia destroyed the dam and flooded their own positions just to make this area harder to take so they could pull back most of their defenders from it, and Ukraine just yolos through anyway and pushes their now underdefended artillery and sets up enough AA to secure an actual fricking crossing because Russia underestimated how much the flooding would deter Ukraine, I will laugh my ass off.
Ukraine crossing in force at Kherson would knock MONTHS off the length of the war and completely assfrick Russian defenses and supplies. This shit would be bigger than the main fricking defensive going on up river if they actually push the artillery or even keep those pontoons up long enough.
God if Russia loses that much faster because they swapped setting off a WMD for maintaining actual fricking defenses and thinned out their lines too much again just like they did in Kharkiv...poetic justice doesn't do it justice. Biggest petard hoisting in history from the biggest petard in history. Emphasis on the etards.
>This is almost definitely either a feint or a setup for shit way down the line
It has started to lean towards set up, entirely as a consequence of how shitty Russian forces are handling removing Ukrainians from the river shoreline and area around the bridge. >how are they doing shit tho????
Remember this all started after a UKR mortar team snuck across the river and mutilated a RU platoon squatting in the forest slightly to the south of the bridge itself. And what did Russia do to stop them?
Fricking nothing.
So the operation naturally expanded and there is more than just a single UKR mortar team shitting up the place now >mortars are pretty short range, why not use artillery to shell them???
Oh, RU forces are, it just is anemic. Blown out barrels means no accuracy (was already shit), reduced charges due blown out barrels means even less range (was already shit), and the recent supply depos and bridge hits means no mass. If Russian artillery isn't massed, it isn't doing shit, and Ukraine has proven quite capable of sniping D30s across the river over that last few months. So artillery as the answer? That's tough. >how about drones?
EW complexes are concentrated here >how about airpower to kill the emitting EW complexes?
As reported by Crybar, Ukrainian S-300s have been moved into the area, allegedly to cover the EW complexes among other things. Guess they weren't all destroyed in that totally-not-an-old-ICBM-booster-storage-explosion last month. Anyway, using airpower means risking limited airframes. That's also tough.
And remember, regardless of what Russia does they will have to divert men and material into the area. Away from Zaporizhzhia in particular. Well, that's tough too. It's a dilemma, and all the solutions are bad.
Also Crybar is currently speculating Ukraine is about to shove a genuine assault into the area by the 30th, including taking the Kinburn Peninsula. If you see vatnik shills raiding later this week, then you know why.
are pretty short range, why not use artillery to shell them??? >Oh, RU forces are, it just is anemic
The other thing is that their counter battery radar apparently is not able to detect mortar fire as well as regular artillery fire, though I don't know if that's true for 120s. If it is though it would explain why this has continued, I simply assumed they'd thrown the arty in disorder temporarily.
>The other thing is that their counter battery radar apparently is not able to detect mortar fire as well as regular artillery fire
Well, that and counter-battery radar losses in general. Their counter-battery sucks because they have few radars, and increasingly fewer battery.
Claims of dead people is usually what gets everybody's attention, but the losses of artillery pieces Ukraine is claiming to have inflicted on RU forces has jumped massively as of late.
holy shit I knew Ukraine's numbers are up on armor (people keep spamming tank/afv loss comparisons), I even saw some confirmed grad kills here and there, but I had no idea Russia was hemorrhaging THAT much arty with the push
I guess counterbattery materiel was the "missing/delayed Western equipment" Zelenskyy kept alluding to in April
as Ukraine, i'd be delighted to take this trade-off
the offensive pauses in ground gained in exchange for these attritional numbers? amazing deal
of note is that it seems Ukraine is also using GMLRS for counterbattery recently according to footage, where previously those were mostly limited to for depot/command post strikes
11 months ago
Anonymous
well, Russians are capable of learning and moved most small stuff to outside GMLRS range >concentrated on bigger depots further away (SCALP food)
More GMLRS rockets left over because fewer targets means they can massively outrange tube arty and drop spice on high-value targets (Pions, Mstas, Zooparks, etc)
Supposedly the Ukrainians have been focusing heavily on aggressively hunting Russian artillery. No idea what the grand strategy but it may be that they hope to inflict enough losses that gaps start appearing in the lines and they can make bigger pushes with less arty resistance.
someone please explain this pic
Test pilots wanted to see if they could have the copilot eject and still fly the plane normally and land safely.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No idea what the grand strategy but it may be that they hope to inflict enough losses that gaps start appearing in the lines and they can make bigger pushes with less arty resistance.
This is going to be what makes or breaks the offensive, I think. The Russian defenses are heavily reliant on pre-sighted artillery to take out slow moving mine clearing vehicles and their escorts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>No idea what the grand strategy but it may be that they hope to inflict enough losses that gaps start appearing in the lines and they can make bigger pushes with less arty resistance.
>No idea what the grand strategy but it may be that they hope to inflict enough losses that gaps start appearing in the lines and they can make bigger pushes with less arty resistance.
This is going to be what makes or breaks the offensive, I think. The Russian defenses are heavily reliant on pre-sighted artillery to take out slow moving mine clearing vehicles and their escorts.
>This is going to be what makes or breaks the offensive, I think. The Russian defenses are heavily reliant on pre-sighted artillery to take out slow moving mine clearing vehicles and their escorts.
Russia's only real effective response to offensive movements in this war can be best described as "frick you, frick your grid square- artillery, go!" Even as they've started running on a more constricted ammunition supply, they've been heavily reliant on responding with arty.
They've gotten better at hiding ammo, do no the Ukies are just destroying the guns. It's not like there's much left worth capturing anyways.
>roughly 3875 guns in 15 months >not including guns that have exploded due to wear, and those that have been put out of service due to risk of exploding
Absolutely insane, is there even that much tube artillery in all the other euro armies put together? (Not including Ukraine and Belarus)
Poland "will" have around 1300 guns (+~1k MLRS) and the rest of Europe has something like a few thousand collectively
outside of that, if you are including "Euro" EU/allies like Turkey, they have ~3100 guns still to Greece's ~1300, these two alone are enough to match that number
This war has been a pretty stunning indictment of the "artillery first" mindset slavaboos promote, if nothing else, but at the same time Russia has also spent thousands of missiles and rockets demonstrating that those are just as worthless without judicious & measured use.
Granted this is a lesson people should have already learned from the consistent failures of historic strategic bombing campaigns, which are much more impactful than sporadic artillery, but rarely followed with a concurrent direct offensive action. Not every military got the memo apparently.
11 months ago
Anonymous
it has also strongly proved that precision is way better than quantity for long range fires
if you need to fire 10x the shots to reliably hit a target, that's a massive increase in at least the equipment wear, logistics burden, and chance of getting counter battery-ed
11 months ago
Anonymous
Precision is better in everything. Making soup? Make it with precision. Making love? Do it with precision. Making shit? DO IT PRECISELY!!!
11 months ago
Anonymous
There was a time when precision guidance was less reliable than simply saturating the area with fire
But that time was like the mid 1970s
> what gets everybody's attention
Not really? Maybe for people that don't really care? Outliers though - that's the stuff. Today, surprisingly, almost no arty deaths, but personnel deaths went up like 2 times.
Guys, I don't think we should read to much into Ukie numbers. Granted they lie much less than vatniks, but they still lie and inflate their numbers a lot.
Where are all those 300 aircraft? I thought the helicopters and planes were mostly out of this war.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure those are cumulative Russian losses. The only aircraft left are stuck firing standoff munitions/BVR A2A missiles at max range or doing high-risk nap of the earth flights to lob bombs/rockets at stuff.
hold on, how much time passed since the dam got blown up, 3 weeks? So russians caused so much destruction and another wave of international outrage just to have the Dnieper blocked for 3 weeks? lmao
Unironically yes. The preponderance of the evidence at this point indicates that the Russians were actually trying to keep the dam intact and weaponize it just enough to raise the river level a meter or two for a shorter term, enough to repel AFU forces o nthe little islets downstream.
Then they fricked up.
Now, the Russians have downstream mined defenses that got swept away and lower water levels (easier for the AFU to invade) plus a bunch of mud and silt (difficult for the AFU, but it dries out over time).
>Ukrainian S-300s have been moved into the area, allegedly to cover the EW complexes among other things. Guess they weren't all destroyed in that totally-not-an-old-ICBM-booster-storage-explosion last month.
no, they were destroyed by mighty vdv drops doing deep recon spec ops
>if Russia loses that much faster because they swapped setting off a WMD for maintaining actual fricking defenses
You have just stated the unironic gist of latter-Soviet and all of post-Soviet Russia. >Biggest petard hoisting in history from the biggest petard in history. Emphasis on the etards.
And this is why, while cautious and still skeptical, I'm quite looking forward to seeing just how much of a fuss Ukraine can make for Russia in this sector. Talk about a fricking repudiation of your entire mindset and very ethos of warfare. >"what do you mean WMD mode in heavily populated areas isn't insta-win?"
Russia could (at enormous expense) spam any pontoon crossing with ballistic missiles, no? Might cost a few hundred million dollars to score a hit but would still be worth it to stop a breakthrough.
>Russia could (at enormous expense) spam any pontoon crossing with ballistic missiles, no?
They're tossing TBMs into Kramatorsk shopping centers and restaurants, right now, anon. >https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66031342
Russia is physically incapable of using their long range munitions for anything other than terror bombings.
How are these fricking homosexual ass Ukrainians so god damn shitty at fighting. It's been 3 weeks of this offensive and still no breakthrough or encirclement.
Ukraine is kind of a poor mediocre corrupt military that just recently got less corrupt and has some non mediocre American trained military stapled onto it. And now they also have lots of the best weapons for killing Russians ever created. They've handled the situation well, considering, and they've learned fast and adapted, but they aren't the US and they don't have air superiority. Trench warfare is slow without that.
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I disagree based on the huge wave of posts containing "HAHA, YOU BELIEVED THE COUP WAS REAL? YOU'RE A VATNIG/ZIGGER, REMEMBER FIREHOSE OF LIES" etc.
Maybe another branch took over?
I was actually amazed by the lack of such posts, the day after the coup failed. I had assumed everything would be shills, but it was pretty quiet.
I fear its the calm before the storm.
No coherent narritive for the shills so they are awaiting orders.
Leadership is panicing and confused more than normal so its taking them longer to get something together.
Enjoy this peace it wont last sadly.
>Ukraine is kind of a poor mediocre corrupt military that just recently got less corrupt >Recently
They spent the 8 years after Crimea unfricking their army the best that they can, they've come a long way.
The real issue is that they've spent the last year expanding with volunteers and some draftees quickly (relative to us, much longer compared to the russians) training with the new equipment, so most of their experience, even the experience from the last year, is not spread out across the entire army.
Doesnt' matter, the fact they're wasting good supplies and men on trying to retake fricking Bakhmut and attack fortified positions is proof they're incompetent
Russia fortified pretty much the entire front, what choice do they have other than attacking fortified positions? The only other choice is attacking into Russia which their main backer the USA has said is a no-go. Beyond that, they don't want to galvanize the Russian public against them. Considering the rant Prigozhin went on before the short mutiny, I don't think the war is too popular inside Russia.
>Russia fortified pretty much the entire front, what choice do they have other than attacking fortified positions? The only other choice is attacking into Russia which their main backer the USA has said is a no-go.
why would we say that. >Beyond that, they don't want to galvanize the Russian public against them. Considering the rant Prigozhin went on before the short mutiny, I don't think the war is too popular inside Russia.
They literally do not care, and if the holhols breach the frontline, they can also march straight into the kremlin. I believe they'd be welcomed as well as Prig was given he abandoned them.
The challenge for river crossings like this is typically artillery.
The Ukrainians may struggle to supply artillery on the east bank and if the arty stays on the west bank it will have a disadvantage.
dont expect too much. if they want to make stronghold on russian side they have to push them back 10km from river to avoid artillery. also to do that they need tanks and apc. Also dniepr river is one of the largest rivers in europe, in that place its also delta with many smaller rivers running across so to expand you need to cross not only main rivver but also many smaller rivers, cannals, streams etc. Looking at russian begging for air support, ew countermeasures i expect preplaned action with not so small forces but without anything heavy, with artillery and airdefence support from cherson just to engage more russian forces from south. if russian didnt do anything they are risking more and more
possibly but they'd be quite vulnerable to air and arty attack as well as air scattered mines. could probably more a smaller fast force across under the cover of darkness but I doubt it's the sort of trick they could get away with that many times and resupply could become a potential issue
What EW units does Ukraine have? Western-stuff? My impression of the conflict so far that Russia at least has the edge in AA (considering they have shown a constant willingness to strike civilian targets with S-300 missiles, so obviously they have enough to spare, and the fact the fact the TB2 drone isn't free to roam around destroying Russian targets) and EW units, which we occasionally see Excalibur rounds deal with them.
>What EW units does Ukraine have? Western-stuff?
The US has been providing EW systems as part of the aid packages since middle of last year.
What EW units does Ukraine have? Western-stuff?
I'm late to the party. Why didn't the russians blow up the bridge before leaving? Why would they let it stand? I'm not talking about trying to missile or artillery it, we know they can't aim for shit, but surely the could've used explosives. They destroyed a fricking dam, for fricks sake.
They told their propagandists that they would be returning to Kherson at a later date (totally not a retreat!), thus they had to keep some bridges around to save face lol
Regarding the lack of shills, I think it's less to do with payment issues and more to do with them being ordered to prioritise damage control on Russian internet. This whole coup attempt was a huge loss of face for Putin and the entire military command, they're working overtime trying to convince Russian zoomers and babushkas on Vkontakte that it was all just 5D chess by Putin and Lukashenko to weed out the moles and traitors.
>Lancet loses signal due to EW
Bloody bastards nooooooo
benchod you bloody bastard
>tfw they redeem
BHENCHOD BLOODY BASTARD FRICK YOU BICH
FRICK YOU BLOODY YOU BLOODY BASTARD b***h
The gift card, redeemed....
my sides, in space
The needful, when it was done
Pajeet and Rajeesh at the call center.
The street, it's gutter overflowing.
The lancet, diving for the ground.
The benchod, a bastard.
they lost mobile coverage please understand
if that's true, why haven't they been jamming lancet this whole time?
Huge front limited equipment.
jamming 1km vs jamming 1000km
Look up survivorship bias. Just because you get a bunch of videos of lancets working doesn't mean like 99% of actual strikes fail
limited material
God I love EW, especially EW aircraft. Those pilots are the absolute unholy Black folk of the sky.
Lol his callsign is slingblade. Look up the movie zoomies.
>Karl Childers is a developmentally disabled Arkansas man whose parents physically and mentally abused him when he was young. He has been in the custody of the state mental hospital since the age of 12 after murdering his mother and her teenage lover, who was also his tormentor, with a sling blade.
Are all callsigns chosen to sound kinda cool to the average civilian normie, but in reality are designed to roast the shit out of the bearer?
>Are all callsigns chosen to sound kinda cool to the average civilian normie, but in reality are designed to roast the shit out of the bearer?
yes.
>Are all callsigns chosen to sound kinda cool to the average civilian normie, but in reality are designed to roast the shit out of the bearer?
Yes, oh yes.
Yeah pretty much all callsigns are insults or movie referances.
Just roll with it and embrace it and get funny ones to stick to other people.
I have gotten the same one at every unit and purely becuase my name and a movie.
Get the frick back to your post Dirty Harry before I complain to the CO again
>Ukrainians simply using BTR engines to power EW suites provided by US/NATO
>Not even using EW suites on planes
>Enough to make russian loitering munitions and orlans eat shit
>Russians cant arty the jamming stations for some reason
>Literally not even 20% of US EW capabilities
So this is the power of US Military
Digits confirm.
SIR, DO NOT REDEEM THE EW! SIR PLEEEEEEEASE DO NOT REDEEEM EW! YOU BLOODY BASTERD BENCHOD b***h WHY DID YOU REDEEM?!
Real benchod bloody bastards hours.
This isn't news. It's been known since the summer of 2022.
according to Strelkov Ukraine some deployed serious EW shit, Russian glide bombs miss by 4-5 km
Are we sure it's EW and not just them working as intended?
I do not see them hiting houses nor local super markets so I must be EW
But they were evil houses!
It's a well-known fact that every ukrainian stores at least 40 HIMARS in their homes
Fair point.
>Russian glide bombs miss by 4-5 km
So they became more accurate? Concerning
7 minutes old and no dedovshchina bottoms?
putin forget to pay the internet bill or something
all shills were redeployed to most important sectors of /k/ and /misc/
>all shills were redeployed to most important sectors of /k/ and /misc/
This actually might be true. With the Wagner coup and the Zaporizhia front (dead Leopards!) commanding so much attention from the higher ups, reports about anything happening on the Dnipro might not have filtered up yet. Hence the bot/troll farms not paying much attention to it yet.
Obviously not much of this yet, but it'd be kinda a clusterfrick for Russia if the Russians had to defend occupied southern Ukraine on two fronts.
There's significantly less shills now because Prigozhin was responsible for many if not most shill operations, including ones targeting PrepHole and western sites. That's all gone now.
Yeah. A heads up for new people, you can tell when someone is part of an organized shill campaign or otherwise very invested in a particular community when they go on huge rants whenever you even suggest they're involved. Kiwifarms is notorious for this, as are a lot of cliquey discords/steam groups, and proper shill operations are no exception. Guilt and shame are some of the biggest negative motivators for westerners and they use it to the fullest extent, hence why the message is less "no, there isn't a concerted effort to shill here by Russians, why would you think that?" and more "you loser troony homosexual, you should have a nice day, lmao imagine thinking anyone thinks you're important enough to talk to, you're irrelevant, you'll be bred out" and shit.
At first it feels stupid but over time it grates you down and makes you less likely to question it, which is the entire point. It's meant to be insulting, almost threatening. The message is "we can do whatever we want and if you try to even point out we're threatening you we'll make it worse, so just integrate that feeling of shame and shut the frick up and die".
On a completely unrelated note a Pantsir battery recently had problems detecting a Storm Shadow until it was basically a few hundred meters away, and even then it had to rely on infrared for tracking. I can't wait until they see what JASSM-ER is like.
>mentions storm shadow and JASSM in the same post
careful anon you'll bring out you know who
Completely unrelated too but it's worth mentioning, the spam on /gif/ has stopped, or at least lessened now. A week ago we were at 30-40 outright slide threads at any given time, now it's more like 10.
wait there was spam on gif? What was it, black dicks?
Trannies hanging themselves, basedjacks, bbc porn, deliberately low quality stuff, YLYL threads (but the really bad ones with the cranked up audio etc), "bbc threads" that look normal but are jumpscares, etc.
The board was near unusable (like you couldn't even find a WMAF thread because it would be spammed with shit or slided by 90 BBC YLYL threads) and after the coup in Russia it spontaneously stopped. My filters went from 60-70 threads to like 20, most of which are just me disliking rekt threads and so on.
Of note they also did the meta thread bullshit they do here too.
When I say "slide thread" I mean shit like this. I honestly have no issue if someone wants to get off to SFM videos or BBC stuff or trap stuff, like power to you. But this shit pisses me off.
The frick does it even mean? That trannies will chud out or what?
Lmao so it really was uncle Prigo's shill farms behind the bbc spam in the last few years.
I don't necessarily think it's that, but maybe something internally happened in Russia that lead to a lot of people getting laid off. I've never thought the shilling here was organic, even the most hateful /misc/ user has no reason to sit on /gif/ posting the same troony threads day in day out like clockwork for like 3 years. If you think about it in terms of stifling any western discussion forum with relatively lax moderation it makes a lot more sense.
>maybe something internally happened in Russia that lead to a lot of people getting laid off
Well there was that recent coup attempt
If the rumours are true and king monke defused the situation by getting to pringles' family then that would make the wagner funded shill farms a loose end to be tied off
Don't worry about the workers, they have industry experience and a reputation for effective shilling so they'll find other farms to work at no trouble
I expect the shilling rates to begin increasing again over the next few weeks as the internal political situation in Russia stabilises and market forces bring the now unemployed shills into new or expanded farms
We could always check the daily post/user rate and see if there is a dip.
On /gif/ at least it does look like a decent hit to posting during the coup followed by a spike afterwards.
As for pic related it's hard to tell. Definitely a disruption during the event but that's to be expected. My personal theory is that it isn't so much the amount of posting but the nature of it, so you shouldn't see much of a change in absolute post numbers or rate but instead a change in user behavior.
Personally I think an analysis of IPs and bans over time would be more indicative, since on places like /k/ bans should be directly correlated to shitposters. Same thing with IP changes. But I'm not sure where we could get that information.
it looks statistically insignificant. Where's the raw data ? I'dl like to analyse it
Maybe the van full of cash in St Petersburg was their payroll.
Why would he or Putin shut down the internet disinfo? One of the things that's very much working for Russia.
In Prighozin's case, because he isn't working for the Russian government anymore it seems, with Wagner either being gone or going actually independent. Plus the way it works is that the spam shit is done in actual physical locations, in offices, servers etc, all of that most likely got confiscated by the FSB or just shut down with Prigo and company hauling ass to Belarus.
Internet bullshit done outside of Prigho's responsibility are likely still operating as before.
Prigozin has turned his coat to Lukashenko. People talk about how Belarus is a puppet for Russia, but the actual political situation is dynamic and the result of a complicated struggle between Luka and Russia that dates back to the Yeltsin days. Wagner will allow Luka to be more independent, not more dependent on Russia.
I could've sworn the entire website's discussions sphere went back into pre-2014 quality when the whole coup thing went down.
It did and it was glorious. I've never seen so many paragraphs and so few vatniks.
someone please explain this pic
You were right. FSB tard handlers were eating their code books and their thirdie/diaspora charges were on indeed looking for scam call center jobs.
100%, when prigo took rostov and the 2ish days before leaving for belarus the shills basically disappeared.
Only people responding where chuggers saying off-the-rails bs
This happen everytime some clusterfrick happens, sadly in a week they will forget everything that happens and will be back to the new normal.
I disagree based on the huge wave of posts containing "HAHA, YOU BELIEVED THE COUP WAS REAL? YOU'RE A VATNIG/ZIGGER, REMEMBER FIREHOSE OF LIES" etc.
Maybe another branch took over?
Those came after. During the coup itself there was nearly complete radio silence, with a few unique vatniks (or with the scale of this place maybe just one) saying "xaxaxa must be a fake to feint Kiev!".
I remember some of the posts during the event but not as intense, things certainly picked up hard when Prig took the deal, like it's in overdrive to make up lost time or something. I agree though it's not organic, maybe some kind of skeleton crew with contingency plan hastily made just in case to gaslight and muddying the situation.
I don't get why astroturf on PrepHole at all though. The place is of much lower value compared to large social media sites. I suppose it's a smaller time investment due to the anonymous nature of it, but still.
I mean it is a semi-popular site and it takes like 2 guys, some pastas and a translator to shit up the site for hours.
Make two convicts in some Chinese prison work and the costs are single digit cents/hour.
Operating costs for shill farms are so low that any site with potential value is worth targeting
this
I've seen shills commenting on literal who regional newspaper sites
plus the added chance of radicalizing some /misc/tards, russia/ussr never skipped an occasion to gain some useful idiots
Oh, those came way after. During the shitshow proper, they were dead silent
especially at the time when priggy released the vid claiming they'd taken rostov there were zero shills and the whole of PrepHole was making fun of russia, I was seeing threads on PrepHole and PrepHole etc it was great.
almost an hour, still no shills.
B-benchodbros?
BLOODY!!!!!
Maybe the effects of Biden’s meeting with modi earlier this week?
they just arrived it seems. check the catalogue.
Please don't start acting like them now, you're better than this
No matter what we do we will always be better than vatBlack folk
Come to Russia, we have b-o-t-t-o-m-s
They're in the other thread shitting on Starstreak again
Starstreak is one of the best manpads in Ukraine by the Ukrainians own admission and has helicopter, aircraft and drone kills. One of the guys with it got 26 kills with it iirc. I will never understand this meme.
It's good so they need to say that it's shit because in their heads self-actualization is not only a real thing but the means with which to defeat the west and it's "wunderwaffe"
Are they deploying several S-300 on the other side and up the river?
I don't think it's possible or particularily clever to transport S-300 battery to the dachas,
nah they're chilling on the other side, they got enough range to pp slap the RuAF across the river
bruh
They're definitely not on the other side of the river, but they could be within range of Russian artillery.
ALALALAL OOLOO LALALE
AFRIIIIIIIIIIIIIICA
raughed
Afu units near the dachas? Isn’t dacha like russian version of a sauna? Have they already regained control of the kitchen and pushed afu back towards the elevator?
A dacha is a vacation house, there must be a scenic place on the Dnipro that has (or had) a lot of them
no they're like summer cottages
Dacha is basically a
vacation/retirement cabin
Dachi is a small village on the riverbank but it does contain a lot of Dachas
I can't fricking wait for the grain elevator to be re-captured by ZSU
it's a village called Dachi on the Russian occupied side of the antonovsky bridge (which presumably has Dachas)
Some UA light infantry moved a bit forward while some others set up some 120mm mortars in Dachi, and started hitting some of the Russian positions, presumably harassing Russian artillery units.
They can't detect the mortars as well and don't seem to have a ton of ammo (presumably wasted it bombarding fricking civilians evacuating after the floods), and tried calling in air-support, only for anti-air to have been brought up while the Arty units were too busy being mortared to hit them.
Nah, Russian sauna is called banya, dacha is a vacation cabin as anons posted.
The last couple of days of Ukrainian talking heads being like "Look the crossing over the Dniper isn't that big a deal, there's been heaps of crossings coming and going over the last few months, this is just small, okay?" Might have clued us in idk.
>Maybe RF had trouble getting the information up the chain of command.
YEAH MAYBE. MAYBE THE TIMING WAS RELATED THERE HUH.
>US is supplying more BRADLEY'S and idk some other thing could maybe be water tight work for swamps or something who knows.
For every brad that gets taken out we send two more lmao suck our dicks russia
SIR WHAT ARE YOU DOING SIRS DO
NOT
REDEEM THE ELECTRONICS WARRING
the most hilarious thing in this thread is shills outing themselves for not knowing what a dacha is, the absolute state lmao
which shills?
poor reading comprehension of the third world strikes again
>1/4 of the thread is just repeating REDEEM THE BENCHODS XD
Is this the next TEMPO tier meme to be driven into the ground?
I've started staying benchod bloody bastard in real life while pretending to be an angry indian man when I drop a spoon or something. It's very pleasing.
I quit PrepHole in like 2007 and came back in 2012... since then whenever I get instrusive thoughts or something I say 'Black person' out loud. I really need to stop doing it. If I do it in company I just say 'I said knickers'. Trying my best to quit it, it's a shitty nervous trick and the word is so satisfying to say and I see a lot of black people just using it casually so it just sort of embeds in. Anyway I am going to do this instead now.
Thanks for reading my blog post, you might have helped me.
Thought I was the only one.
Said Black person out loud in my lab yesterday, thankfully I was the only one in there kek.
Anon, have you been tested for autism?
Yeah, I mutter Black person too, not even racist. I make up stupid songs and such.
Holy shit, I thought I was only one that did this. Never let it slip around people though
>I thought I was the only one
why do you think pewdiepie bridge incident happened?
I'm glad English isn't my mother tongue (inb4 >ESL lol) because that would definitely be the case as well. My first thought about annoying people is usually along the lines of "you quintuple Black person", but that can't accidentally roll off my tongue if I'm speaking in another language.
I hope.
This is why I avoid using swear language on this site. I know one day I'll slip up and write "homosexuals" when texting my boss and instantly he will stop being my boss.
>instantly he will stop being my boss.
Maybe he should stop being such a homosexual.
I swear part of the issue is board culture, and I mean that in a not necessarily bad way, too. Black person, sure fine its a word. Double Black person, triple Black person homosexual, gaystick, my Black person in christ, etc.? I'm sorry but some of these combinations and neologisms I've only ever seen on PrepHole, and they're pretty damn funny, just as standalones with no mean intent.
I also find myself actively catching myself whenever something stupid happens or someone does something especially stupid and make sure I don't call them a moronic double Black person brownoid out of pure reflex.
I don't even work around that many minorities, none of which have ever been particularly Black personly.
That, plus I think that other anon is onto something with autism maybe not helping.
>.t actual sperg
When ever I lie or am outraged I use an Indian voice and mannerisms now.
A few simple building blocks, but the combinations are endless. Like Lego.
>BENCHOD BLOODY FRICKING MOTHER BLOOD b***h
It's just so satisfying. It rolls off the tongue so effortlessly.
What's funny is I haven't seen anybody but me use BENCHOD recently, so for you to bring that up it means your brown and my choice of using that has mentally broke you, so I will continue to use it until you thirdies frick off.
Hope the one rupee a month for shitting up our board is worth it!
TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO
Wouldn't Ukraine have to set up a Bailey Bridge over the Antonevsky Bridge to maintain supply? They definitely don't have the amphibious capabilities to sustain a large scale offensive across a body of water, right?
Bailey bridges are certainly possible, but not really feasible in the modern era because they are trivial to destroy. That's why the Russians were using barges for a while, smaller target.
As far as I can tell it's just light infantry with mortars harassing the Russians by setting up on the other side, with the "big" goal being pushing back their arty, either with the mortars or by spotting for larger arty back on the Ukrainian side. (this was probably spurred on mostly by the c**ts shelling the civilians who were and still are being evacuated as a result of the Russians blowing up the dam)
They're probably mostly using rafts and crossing enough for small caches during the night, then only crossing back for casevac / rotation.
Not ruling out that maybe, not likely but maybe something bigger is in the works, but I think they've just reasoned out that the Russians there don't really have enough to push back light infantry, and don't have enough arty shells to do grid square bombardments anymore.
I figure the goal here is to lure as much rissian material as possible west of melitopol so that it gets trapped when the Ukranian offensive cuts the land bridge but that's just speculation
If they cross with armor this would be serious, But as soon as russians redeploy their armor it will be over. The thing is, can they afford to redeploy armor???
>Armor
*RAAMS your way*
>armor
they'll just atgm them like they always have
it's a good thing they have lightweight and effective AT weapons
>pontoon crossing are said to be noticed
The eternal Noticer strikes again
I imagine some dudes at GE or Raytheon are furiously trying to draw up man-portable anti-drone EW units. Signal loss is the bane of drone operators and it theoretically shouldn't be too difficult to produce a squad-level drone jammer that could interfere with most civilian drone models.
Power is a limiting factor for all energy weapons from jammers to lasers.
That and RF hazard to the said unshielded infantry.
>future squads will have one guy who's job it is to haul around ~100lbs of a bigass battery everywhere and is only given a sidearm
oppenheimer.jpg
Honestly probably be someone dragging around a backpack generator.
Once you reach small engine weight/size ICE vastly our performs batteries in weight to powerstorage and power generation.
Plus refueling is faster than recharging.
>piece of shrapnel gets into generator
>jammer disabled
>fast forward to your parents seeing you slowly die to shrapnel on the internet while slavshit techno is blasting and there are 4 watermarks on the screen
>the unit's insignia watermark looks like a 12 year old tried to draw an american units insignia in art class and got a C
Do you think the next call of duty, etc, will feature drone dropped grenades?
Probably, they love edgy shit like that
To be fair a Piece of shrapnel in the generator is bad.
A piece of shrapnel in a battery pack is catastopic lithium battery explosion.
That seems more like a Medal of Honor thing, to strictly recreate a contemporary war. New CoD is more likely to have a polished concept of suicide drones/mini-bombers.
Survial horror mission where your generator keeps shitting out and you have to run to to fix it with the noise of a drone getting increasingly louder.
I honestly don't think people talk about microturbines enough.
Wouldn't that be a perfect job for this lil' fella?
He could probably even carry a running genny if he had to
Carrying cargo in the larger models was one of their selling points
the big prototypes had, iirc, single cylinder two stroke engines. that’s why they sounded as ominously as they did
Oh ohhhh OHHHH IM PONTOOOOONING!
This is almost definitely either a feint or a setup for shit way down the line, but if Russia destroyed the dam and flooded their own positions just to make this area harder to take so they could pull back most of their defenders from it, and Ukraine just yolos through anyway and pushes their now underdefended artillery and sets up enough AA to secure an actual fricking crossing because Russia underestimated how much the flooding would deter Ukraine, I will laugh my ass off.
Ukraine crossing in force at Kherson would knock MONTHS off the length of the war and completely assfrick Russian defenses and supplies. This shit would be bigger than the main fricking defensive going on up river if they actually push the artillery or even keep those pontoons up long enough.
God if Russia loses that much faster because they swapped setting off a WMD for maintaining actual fricking defenses and thinned out their lines too much again just like they did in Kharkiv...poetic justice doesn't do it justice. Biggest petard hoisting in history from the biggest petard in history. Emphasis on the etards.
>This is almost definitely either a feint or a setup for shit way down the line
It has started to lean towards set up, entirely as a consequence of how shitty Russian forces are handling removing Ukrainians from the river shoreline and area around the bridge.
>how are they doing shit tho????
Remember this all started after a UKR mortar team snuck across the river and mutilated a RU platoon squatting in the forest slightly to the south of the bridge itself. And what did Russia do to stop them?
Fricking nothing.
So the operation naturally expanded and there is more than just a single UKR mortar team shitting up the place now
>mortars are pretty short range, why not use artillery to shell them???
Oh, RU forces are, it just is anemic. Blown out barrels means no accuracy (was already shit), reduced charges due blown out barrels means even less range (was already shit), and the recent supply depos and bridge hits means no mass. If Russian artillery isn't massed, it isn't doing shit, and Ukraine has proven quite capable of sniping D30s across the river over that last few months. So artillery as the answer? That's tough.
>how about drones?
EW complexes are concentrated here
>how about airpower to kill the emitting EW complexes?
As reported by Crybar, Ukrainian S-300s have been moved into the area, allegedly to cover the EW complexes among other things. Guess they weren't all destroyed in that totally-not-an-old-ICBM-booster-storage-explosion last month. Anyway, using airpower means risking limited airframes. That's also tough.
And remember, regardless of what Russia does they will have to divert men and material into the area. Away from Zaporizhzhia in particular. Well, that's tough too. It's a dilemma, and all the solutions are bad.
Also Crybar is currently speculating Ukraine is about to shove a genuine assault into the area by the 30th, including taking the Kinburn Peninsula. If you see vatnik shills raiding later this week, then you know why.
are pretty short range, why not use artillery to shell them???
>Oh, RU forces are, it just is anemic
The other thing is that their counter battery radar apparently is not able to detect mortar fire as well as regular artillery fire, though I don't know if that's true for 120s. If it is though it would explain why this has continued, I simply assumed they'd thrown the arty in disorder temporarily.
>The other thing is that their counter battery radar apparently is not able to detect mortar fire as well as regular artillery fire
Well, that and counter-battery radar losses in general. Their counter-battery sucks because they have few radars, and increasingly fewer battery.
Claims of dead people is usually what gets everybody's attention, but the losses of artillery pieces Ukraine is claiming to have inflicted on RU forces has jumped massively as of late.
holy shit I knew Ukraine's numbers are up on armor (people keep spamming tank/afv loss comparisons), I even saw some confirmed grad kills here and there, but I had no idea Russia was hemorrhaging THAT much arty with the push
I guess counterbattery materiel was the "missing/delayed Western equipment" Zelenskyy kept alluding to in April
as Ukraine, i'd be delighted to take this trade-off
the offensive pauses in ground gained in exchange for these attritional numbers? amazing deal
of note is that it seems Ukraine is also using GMLRS for counterbattery recently according to footage, where previously those were mostly limited to for depot/command post strikes
well, Russians are capable of learning and moved most small stuff to outside GMLRS range
>concentrated on bigger depots further away (SCALP food)
More GMLRS rockets left over because fewer targets means they can massively outrange tube arty and drop spice on high-value targets (Pions, Mstas, Zooparks, etc)
Supposedly the Ukrainians have been focusing heavily on aggressively hunting Russian artillery. No idea what the grand strategy but it may be that they hope to inflict enough losses that gaps start appearing in the lines and they can make bigger pushes with less arty resistance.
Test pilots wanted to see if they could have the copilot eject and still fly the plane normally and land safely.
>No idea what the grand strategy but it may be that they hope to inflict enough losses that gaps start appearing in the lines and they can make bigger pushes with less arty resistance.
This is going to be what makes or breaks the offensive, I think. The Russian defenses are heavily reliant on pre-sighted artillery to take out slow moving mine clearing vehicles and their escorts.
>No idea what the grand strategy but it may be that they hope to inflict enough losses that gaps start appearing in the lines and they can make bigger pushes with less arty resistance.
>This is going to be what makes or breaks the offensive, I think. The Russian defenses are heavily reliant on pre-sighted artillery to take out slow moving mine clearing vehicles and their escorts.
Russia's only real effective response to offensive movements in this war can be best described as "frick you, frick your grid square- artillery, go!" Even as they've started running on a more constricted ammunition supply, they've been heavily reliant on responding with arty.
They've gotten better at hiding ammo, do no the Ukies are just destroying the guns. It's not like there's much left worth capturing anyways.
>roughly 3875 guns in 15 months
>not including guns that have exploded due to wear, and those that have been put out of service due to risk of exploding
Absolutely insane, is there even that much tube artillery in all the other euro armies put together? (Not including Ukraine and Belarus)
Poland "will" have around 1300 guns (+~1k MLRS) and the rest of Europe has something like a few thousand collectively
outside of that, if you are including "Euro" EU/allies like Turkey, they have ~3100 guns still to Greece's ~1300, these two alone are enough to match that number
This war has been a pretty stunning indictment of the "artillery first" mindset slavaboos promote, if nothing else, but at the same time Russia has also spent thousands of missiles and rockets demonstrating that those are just as worthless without judicious & measured use.
Granted this is a lesson people should have already learned from the consistent failures of historic strategic bombing campaigns, which are much more impactful than sporadic artillery, but rarely followed with a concurrent direct offensive action. Not every military got the memo apparently.
it has also strongly proved that precision is way better than quantity for long range fires
if you need to fire 10x the shots to reliably hit a target, that's a massive increase in at least the equipment wear, logistics burden, and chance of getting counter battery-ed
Precision is better in everything. Making soup? Make it with precision. Making love? Do it with precision. Making shit? DO IT PRECISELY!!!
There was a time when precision guidance was less reliable than simply saturating the area with fire
But that time was like the mid 1970s
Turkey has around 1500 tho
Hello from which website did you screencap your image? Thanks
> what gets everybody's attention
Not really? Maybe for people that don't really care? Outliers though - that's the stuff. Today, surprisingly, almost no arty deaths, but personnel deaths went up like 2 times.
Guys, I don't think we should read to much into Ukie numbers. Granted they lie much less than vatniks, but they still lie and inflate their numbers a lot.
Where are all those 300 aircraft? I thought the helicopters and planes were mostly out of this war.
Pretty sure those are cumulative Russian losses. The only aircraft left are stuck firing standoff munitions/BVR A2A missiles at max range or doing high-risk nap of the earth flights to lob bombs/rockets at stuff.
hold on, how much time passed since the dam got blown up, 3 weeks? So russians caused so much destruction and another wave of international outrage just to have the Dnieper blocked for 3 weeks? lmao
Unironically yes. The preponderance of the evidence at this point indicates that the Russians were actually trying to keep the dam intact and weaponize it just enough to raise the river level a meter or two for a shorter term, enough to repel AFU forces o nthe little islets downstream.
Then they fricked up.
Now, the Russians have downstream mined defenses that got swept away and lower water levels (easier for the AFU to invade) plus a bunch of mud and silt (difficult for the AFU, but it dries out over time).
>Mykolaiv
>American HQ
What?
Ziggers gonna zigg
Ithe map is from Rybar, and they're pro-russian so they buy into bullshit like that
>Ukrainian S-300s have been moved into the area, allegedly to cover the EW complexes among other things. Guess they weren't all destroyed in that totally-not-an-old-ICBM-booster-storage-explosion last month.
no, they were destroyed by mighty vdv drops doing deep recon spec ops
>if Russia loses that much faster because they swapped setting off a WMD for maintaining actual fricking defenses
You have just stated the unironic gist of latter-Soviet and all of post-Soviet Russia.
>Biggest petard hoisting in history from the biggest petard in history. Emphasis on the etards.
And this is why, while cautious and still skeptical, I'm quite looking forward to seeing just how much of a fuss Ukraine can make for Russia in this sector. Talk about a fricking repudiation of your entire mindset and very ethos of warfare.
>"what do you mean WMD mode in heavily populated areas isn't insta-win?"
Russia could (at enormous expense) spam any pontoon crossing with ballistic missiles, no? Might cost a few hundred million dollars to score a hit but would still be worth it to stop a breakthrough.
they will still waste them on civilian targets instead, as has been the constant MO in this stupid fricking war.
>Russia could (at enormous expense) spam any pontoon crossing with ballistic missiles, no?
They're tossing TBMs into Kramatorsk shopping centers and restaurants, right now, anon.
>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66031342
Russia is physically incapable of using their long range munitions for anything other than terror bombings.
How are these fricking homosexual ass Ukrainians so god damn shitty at fighting. It's been 3 weeks of this offensive and still no breakthrough or encirclement.
Ukraine is kind of a poor mediocre corrupt military that just recently got less corrupt and has some non mediocre American trained military stapled onto it. And now they also have lots of the best weapons for killing Russians ever created. They've handled the situation well, considering, and they've learned fast and adapted, but they aren't the US and they don't have air superiority. Trench warfare is slow without that.
I was actually amazed by the lack of such posts, the day after the coup failed. I had assumed everything would be shills, but it was pretty quiet.
I fear its the calm before the storm.
No coherent narritive for the shills so they are awaiting orders.
Leadership is panicing and confused more than normal so its taking them longer to get something together.
Enjoy this peace it wont last sadly.
>Ukraine is kind of a poor mediocre corrupt military that just recently got less corrupt
>Recently
They spent the 8 years after Crimea unfricking their army the best that they can, they've come a long way.
The real issue is that they've spent the last year expanding with volunteers and some draftees quickly (relative to us, much longer compared to the russians) training with the new equipment, so most of their experience, even the experience from the last year, is not spread out across the entire army.
Doesnt' matter, the fact they're wasting good supplies and men on trying to retake fricking Bakhmut and attack fortified positions is proof they're incompetent
Russia fortified pretty much the entire front, what choice do they have other than attacking fortified positions? The only other choice is attacking into Russia which their main backer the USA has said is a no-go. Beyond that, they don't want to galvanize the Russian public against them. Considering the rant Prigozhin went on before the short mutiny, I don't think the war is too popular inside Russia.
>Russia fortified pretty much the entire front, what choice do they have other than attacking fortified positions? The only other choice is attacking into Russia which their main backer the USA has said is a no-go.
why would we say that.
>Beyond that, they don't want to galvanize the Russian public against them. Considering the rant Prigozhin went on before the short mutiny, I don't think the war is too popular inside Russia.
They literally do not care, and if the holhols breach the frontline, they can also march straight into the kremlin. I believe they'd be welcomed as well as Prig was given he abandoned them.
The challenge for river crossings like this is typically artillery.
The Ukrainians may struggle to supply artillery on the east bank and if the arty stays on the west bank it will have a disadvantage.
Doesn't HIMARS give them a leg up in that department?
dont expect too much. if they want to make stronghold on russian side they have to push them back 10km from river to avoid artillery. also to do that they need tanks and apc. Also dniepr river is one of the largest rivers in europe, in that place its also delta with many smaller rivers running across so to expand you need to cross not only main rivver but also many smaller rivers, cannals, streams etc. Looking at russian begging for air support, ew countermeasures i expect preplaned action with not so small forces but without anything heavy, with artillery and airdefence support from cherson just to engage more russian forces from south. if russian didnt do anything they are risking more and more
Unrelated and uninformed question, but can the Ukrainians cross the river through the now dried up Kakhovka reservoir?
Too muddy, but it will be much easier to send special forces to other side
possibly but they'd be quite vulnerable to air and arty attack as well as air scattered mines. could probably more a smaller fast force across under the cover of darkness but I doubt it's the sort of trick they could get away with that many times and resupply could become a potential issue
Oh no I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it I-i-i I'M PONTOOOOOOOONIIIING
falling right into the trap
kedditors will be crying to the mods when hohol carnage videos start showing up
What EW units does Ukraine have? Western-stuff? My impression of the conflict so far that Russia at least has the edge in AA (considering they have shown a constant willingness to strike civilian targets with S-300 missiles, so obviously they have enough to spare, and the fact the fact the TB2 drone isn't free to roam around destroying Russian targets) and EW units, which we occasionally see Excalibur rounds deal with them.
>What EW units does Ukraine have? Western-stuff?
The US has been providing EW systems as part of the aid packages since middle of last year.
What EW units does Ukraine have? Western-stuff?
I'm late to the party. Why didn't the russians blow up the bridge before leaving? Why would they let it stand? I'm not talking about trying to missile or artillery it, we know they can't aim for shit, but surely the could've used explosives. They destroyed a fricking dam, for fricks sake.
They told their propagandists that they would be returning to Kherson at a later date (totally not a retreat!), thus they had to keep some bridges around to save face lol
Regarding the lack of shills, I think it's less to do with payment issues and more to do with them being ordered to prioritise damage control on Russian internet. This whole coup attempt was a huge loss of face for Putin and the entire military command, they're working overtime trying to convince Russian zoomers and babushkas on Vkontakte that it was all just 5D chess by Putin and Lukashenko to weed out the moles and traitors.
I find funny Westerners shitting on Ukraine, when the West spend years kowtowing and appeasing russia, giving Monke everything he wanted.
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I'M PONTOOOONING