looking to replace my leatherman squirt. I loved it, but it's crapping out on me after 6 years. I could use a multitool that is a bit beefier, but still has a lanyard attachment point. Something like a Nextool mini or maybe even slightly bigger. Build quality and reliability is also important. any recommendations?
>op guerilla marketing shitty chink multi tools
Tell us more about your offerings Mr chang
Good quality long time!
>leatherman
>chinkshit
kys homosexual. recommend any solid compact multitool. I'm also interested in the leatherman signal, but it's a bit too big. I don't give a shit where it comes from.
> recommend any solid compact multitool
You already did, in the OP mr Bugman
which one, Mr. homosexual? the discontinued squirt? I said I wanted to upgrade, moron
if you send it in now, they send you a micra because the squirt is discontinued. no thanks.
have you seen the scissors on the squirt? the fact they even lasted 6 years is amazing. I've maintained my leatherman just fine. I can still use it, but I'm not some poorgay that needs to struggle with some wobbly scissors when I could just buy another upgraded multitool without a second thought.
>I'm not some poorgay that needs to struggle with some wobbly scissors when I could just buy another
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were on PrepHole not /consoom/. It shouldn't be that much of a struggle to fix your scissors.
> I said I wanted to upgrade
Yeah, to literal chinkshit garbage.
I wonder if you will continue to anonymously shill your dropshipped chinkshit in this thread
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Skeletool
Barely notice the Signal in my pocket.
wow, leatherman shills are absolutely malding ITT
maybe if your build quality didn't consistently decline year-over-year and you started building proper compact multitools again, people wouldn't be looking for alternatives
>+100 social credit score
The meta right now seems to default to PowerPint. I recently got it myself and tough I didn't have the opportunity to use it enough to form a proper opinion on it. SOG also has the advantage of falling right between fanboy magnet companies and chink shit.
I also happen to have Roxon M2, and that's great as well but to justify the waight you'd have to be replacing squirt and micra both. Roxon Flex is just rolling out, it's modular and allegedly has no minimal amount of implements you need to be able to buy it or to use it (and I believe NextTool is in similar boat, tough I'm not sure), so if you're more about weight than size just picking what you need from it is probably the better idea from Roxon.
If you want to stick toleatherman it's down to Skeletool probably and it looks like a very decent tool, given the material qua;ity the price isn't atrocious either, but do remember leatherman bits are only purchesable in kits with ever more dire scarcity. You get two of them stock tho, plus ingtegrated storage and that's way better than most of their tools.
Blame Leatherman for killing that branch of their business not the man who tries to deal with it.
Props for the Signal tho, might be the best design they had in the size group untill Arc
25year warranty is fricking dead, they only offer replacements to other tools because the only two things they fricked up were integrated springs, which are constantly under tension and much worse than that - using rivets instead of screws, so repair is impractical.
>wants to replace lightest of leatherman's pliers
>go with a tradesman's chunk of metal
way to recomed anything, brainlet
This one gives me hope, since someone actually considered the fricking weight when it comes to replacing a FRICKING SQUIRT. Since it's not around tho
also Bond, pushed as the followup to PST by Leatherman itself seems like a good 4 inch choice as well.
This is the one tool I always carry. They don't make it anymore but you can find on ebay search for "utili-key"
I saw that advertised on one of those infinite spam ads on twitter / x that charge you 10x the amount and dropship the item from aliexpress.
I got some Chinese ripoff of it as a backup but it didn't close right and kept falling off my keychain. I only have one of the original one but I've used it for like over 10 years and it still works. Snaps shut and doesn't open until I want it to.
Perfection.
Came here to post this. I don’t EDC one, but I got one for the father in-law and I have a couple other Leathermans and shit and there’s a reason the Wave is the standard that everything else is compared to. It’s not frickhueg with 70 functions that will never get used, but it’s still full sized and not a tiny keychain toy, yet if feels compact in your pocket. Decent locking blade that can be opened without unfolding the whole tool, which makes it 10x more useful than most other multitools. Plus the screwdrivers aren’t made of the same random swiss cheese metal as the can opener and the bit kit is a nice add-on, albeit a little pricey compared to regular bit.
>not a surge
You must be a woman or something
No, this is the White man's choice. PST is the densest leatherman in terms of tools to weight. Outwardly accessible tools are a meme. The mini tool is the most based one they ever made, it's a bit bigger than a micra but it has a full size plier head and has the most commonly used tools.
They discontinued all the good stuff and it's like a soijak lifestyle brand now but the Bond seems like the best engineered thing to come out of that place in 20 years by virtue of basically just being a PST but it has a pocket clip option but the tools look worse vs older ones.
The ideal for me would be a PST size tool, maybe slightly thicker, ditch all the tools aside the pliers (make them replaceable cutters, metal file, 1/4 flat head, add a saw, a pair of scissors and full size compatible 1/4 bit driver. Make the handles easily to disassembly and have the replacement parts readily available so if I break a saw or file I can buy a new one for $7 and swap it out in 3 minutes. With a knife that would cover anything I could see running into reasonably.
>it looks brand new
Yeah I bought it at a yardsale for $3, I have full size tool kits everywhere in arms reach and I rarely run into things I need to work on where I don't have something a short jaunt away.
I think multitools are mostly a meme though, I find crescent rt24's to be way more capable at being pliers while weighing basically nothing and being smaller.
>no locking blade
>need to unfold it to access any tools
Once you own a Wave or anything with a locking knife and a couple main tools that open with one hand, you will never want to use the shit you posted again.
>locking knife
Makes no difference to me,when the handle is closed it is physically incapable of cutting you like a traditional slipjoint would if the backspring is overcome. If I have my work bag I have a better knife that is easier to get at and if I'm intentionally going out working on a project I'd be using a utility knife instead, and would not use a leatherman at all since I'd have better tools even in a very small tool bag.
>need to unfold it to access any tools
Don't care, reduces the need for additional locking mechanisms and makes the design more compact.
PST weighs 3 ounces less and is substantially smaller.
There are two ways to come at these sorts of tools if we exclude the bugmen who literally don't any tools like you see in their advertising with people in their house using them to tighten knobs or whatever.
If for some reason you don't actually have access to your full tools, which isn't me because I have full tool kits in my vehicles and don't get paid enough to care about saving time at work.
Then a Wave+the bit set in a single sheath is a lot of capability, even if it is not as good as a dedicated tool for the form factor.
Then there is, "I just want to have full size pliers and a file in the smallest form factor on the off chance I need them and am separated from a vehicle" and that's me. If they still made the mini tool I'd run to buy one since I simply don't view them as serious heavy duty tools, so the fold out handles wouldn't be a deal breaker to me while also being keychain size if you have push button start. One of those plus a olight I1R 2 is a ton of capability for something attached to some keys.
Basically what I want is a high quality version of the SOG powerpint.
If you are a soldier or like industrial maintenance without some sort of cart, rancher, so it will take you a substantial amount of time to get a saw since you only carry stuff on your belt, I can see how you would value of the bigger tools.
No anon. You’re wrong. 3 x 4 does not equal 15.
I mentioned it in an earlier post, but the Swisstool Spirit is the best modern PST replacement I've found. It's similarly dense but has outside-accessible locking tools and is MUCH higher quality than current Leatherman stuff. Just a shame they're so expensive now.
>Outwardly accessible tools are a meme
Totally disagree, it's way fricking nicer to get a knife out without having to flip the whole thing open and then pull it out. One hand use for all the major tools is huge, and it means you can get tools that run the whole length of the tool.
Know what I want to see on more multitools? Quick change scalpel blades. Give me a regular knife, a saw, a file, and a scalpel. Oh, and make the pliers lock open, I never see that shit and sometimes I want to use my pliers to spread something apart to open it up, which you can't do on any of the tools I've seen. Internally? I don't care, I've never used the screwdriver or the fricking can opener and shit. Give me a full sized bit driver on one side and an awl and a long flathead on the other.
Honestly, it's a surprise nobody has built a custom multitool system. Internally you could have 4 units of space, and you could pick your tools up to that limit, so some tools are bulky and take up 2+ units, others only take up 1. Also solves the problem of broken tools, you can just swap them out with a replacement if you mistreat it.
>I want to use my pliers to spread something apart to open it up
>Honestly, it's a surprise nobody has built a custom multitool system. Internally you could have 4 units of space, and you could pick your tools up to that limit, so some tools are bulky and take up 2+ units, others only take up 1. Also solves the problem of broken tools, you can just swap them out with a replacement if you mistreat it.
The old-school SOG tools do both of these things. The geared mechanism lets them apply outward force on the pliers, and you can easily swap tools around, they even sell replacements on their website.
I looked up the mini tool, that looks pretty cool. I love my micra, really handy little thing for it's tiny size and weight, I think a small plier would be more useful than the scissors sometimes though.
Gerber Dime is pretty much a Micra with pliers.
>it's crapping out on me
Send it in for warranty repair if you can't figure out how to maintain it yourself.
For me its the gerber mp600. Fast, clean, pliers draw every time.
squirt = pee
the naming was quite unfortunate
Leatherman Juice would've probably been ideal but it's been discontinued for a few years now, with no real replacement. I'll be interested to see if anybody comes up with a good option.
My favorite MT in general is the Victorinox Spirit, but that's probably bigger than you want (a lot slimmer and lighter than a Wave though) and they're stupidly expensive nowadays, I paid like $60 for mine at Fry's back in the day.
I've seen good reviews for the Nextool Mini Sailor, and I'm just going to say it the micra is hot garbage you don't want one
>mini sailor
can't decide between this or the powerpint at the moment
>I've seen good reviews for the Nextool Mini Sailor
Me too.
Look at the reviews for the NexTool company itself.
"guang dong bai chuang yuan ke ji gu fen you xian gong si" (Guangdong Baichuangyuan Technology Co., Ltd.) is a very innovative company!
Just ask all the youtubers who got free tools to shill for them!
I’ve never understood the fricking point of these things. My dad gave me one when I was 8, and I properly treated it like a toy. You don’t need to EDC anything other than a knife. I work construction. You know how often I’ve needed a fricking screwdriver, but didn’t have access to my car or the tools in my house? Never. I’ve NEVER been in a situation where I thought, “man, if only I kept a multitool in my pocket all the time.”
Just buy a normal, fricking knife, OP. Buy actual tools for the rest of the shit that thing pretends to offer. Those things are garbage. They do 20 things badly, for upwards of $50. It’s moronic.
I only really use mine as a knife and pliers. Maybe occasionally as a small file.
Ultimately, it has a little more utility than a knife while not being much bulkier. It's a bit heavy, I guess, and a little awkward to sharpen.
I get it, but how often are you using it as pliers, and how good are they at that task. When I had one (I never knew what model, I was 8) even the knife wasn’t worth a damn. Pliers rely on leverage to be pliers. That’s why they all sell according to their length. 9” linemen’s pliers, 10” channellocks, etc. The longer they are, the better they work, so the goal is to buy the right size according to the duty of the task, and the convenience of storing it. As a general rule, any lever-based tool that’s only the width of your palm is barely a tool. Does having a short, thin pair of pliers on your knife actually justify itself over just having a knife, and keeping pliers in your car/around the house, for whenever that particular need comes up?
The length of the width of your palm, I should say *
Keeping a pair of pliers the size of my hand around is awkward, let alone something longer. It's nice having them fold out, even if they're obviously not as good as a longer set. I guess it depends on what leatherman you have, though. The knife on my Wave is fine, keeps a reasonable edge, has a decent thickness so you can abuse it a bit.
It's the same reason I keep a bit set on my desk instead of a full set of screwdrivers. Yes, real drivers are nicer, and I do need them occasionally if a hole is deep, but a set of bits takes up frick all space and works most of the time. Now, if my Leatherman hadn't been a gift I probably wouldn't have bought it, but as gifts go it's a fairly useful one.
Fair enough.
The right multitool can save a trip across the job site when you realize you needed pliers or a screwdriver for an unanticipated two-second fix and it fits in the pocket more nicely than the set of tools it replaces. If you're always right next to your personal work truck with your gangbox it's going to be less useful, but when you're mobile on a large job site it comes in handy.
I don’t know what you do jobsites, but when I’m at work I have a tool belt on. If you need to go back to the truck to get something that a multitool can do, you’re kinda frickin up. Even if you don’t wear a tool belt, you should have at least brought a tool box, or 5 gallon bucket with all the basic shit you need to do your job, so you’re only going back to the truck to get more materials, or for heavy tools that you don’t just pull out of the truck by default, every day.
Usually it's a case of riding to one side of the job site in someone else's vehicle and getting roped into helping someone with some unexpected task--tightening screws, twisting wires, improvising other quick fixes. It can save a lot of time for everyone to have some basic backup tools in your pocket when the trucks are shared and the jobsite is one to several miles across.
They're really nice when you're upside down under the dash of a race car with a rollcage (a frequent situation in my old job) and suddenly realize you need needlenose pliers or a phillips bit for something unexpected. Also useful around the house when you just need to tighten a door latch screw or drawer handle or something and the alternative is going to the other end of the house for the real tool and then having to repeat the trip to put it back.
I also have very limited space for tools in my truck and the multitool helps with that, I do have a small socket+bit driver set stashed behind the seat since nothing can replace that but the MT saves me the trouble of keeping full-size needlenose pliers, files, scissors, etc. in there. A side benefit is that multitools can also let you do stuff normal tools can't, like you can put one of the screwdriver blades sideways and get into spaces where even a stubby wouldn't fit.
look no further than the OHT. https://www.leatherman.com/oht-831540.html
had mine for 5 years and no issues
These leather man tools aren’t very useful and the only reason they still exist is an Astro turf marketing campaign aimed at tech geeks and office dorks who don’t have a tool box full of snap-on at home
And think oh this has 42 tools so that means I don’t need to buy real ones
I never once was working on a lathe, working on a car or building something and went shit I really wish I had a pair of pot steel folding pliers where the handle comes apart and turns into a dull knife without a locking mechanism!
Those multi pliers are a joke
Had one for 20 years never used once.
Like adjustable wrenches…a joke
im using the SOG powerpint, comes with a clip and i put it in the fifth pocket of my jeans. its small enough that i can also fit one of those thumb sized flashlights in there.
it also comes with a lanyard thing but ive never used it, all the tools are locking
>beefier
>Nextool
unironically. does things your real tools can't and you won't frick up a job by doing something your real tools should've
this and a small 150mm or 125mm knipex cobra
>125mm cobra
Fricking useless if you have man hands, the only reason to have one is if you need to remove overtightened coax cables or some shit.
7-1/4” is a real good size to keep in the beck pocket and it actually has some utility.
>7-1/4”
is typing 180mm really going to kill you?
I will not comply with authoritarian commie censorship.
got the 150 mm on sale, should've gone with 180 mm
While gemerally great at replacing multitools when combined with a SAK or something of the sort, for a trully pocketable tool you really don't wanrt discreete items, you need both density and convenience, while also balancing weight and size of course.
I may just go this route. Swisschamp or Cybertool M seem solid
Sledgehammer. Name one thing you can do with a letherman that you cant do with a big frick off hammer
S4 baby coming at ya! 8 years pulling slivers fixing Pit Vipers and trimming my nose hair for that next big job interview. Been tweaking out on loose screws normal tradies overlook all day errday.
>have a sak on my keychain
Is it worth the upgrade to one of those leather man minis?
only if you want pliers, in which case get the squirt ps4. otherwise no, saks are superior for
reasons
I always thought these multi-tools were gimmicky , if there was like a box cutter blade on them , it would make it somewhat more practical but its always some useless stuff like, bottle opener, tiny ass scissors etc