Looking at a generator (WEN 56225i 2250-Watt Portable Inverter Generator), with 1800w rated watts.

Looking at a generator (WEN 56225i 2250-Watt Portable Inverter Generator), with 1800w rated watts. The most heavy usage will likely be running a circular saw - which is 15a and 120w. Im not proficent with power draws, but im assuming this means the saw draws 1800w (15 x 120)?

Or do tools run at a lower wattage? Because if its drawing 1800w, thats putting the generator at 100% draw. While some sites are saying a 1800w rated generator will run it no problem. Which is correct?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im also reading how saws draw like 2400w at start, then level out. This would exceed the generator rating would this damage it?

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Circular saws and other power tools have a much higher initial draw (starting wattage) than their running draw -- anywhere from two to three times more. Most of them clock in around 2400 W to start.

  3. 7 months ago
    Bepis

    Hate to be that guy but…

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most of those kinds of generators are for secondary use tools or get me through the day radio type of shit. Even a low start draw saw is gonna make it into a really shitty cordless battery, quickly.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the coils of the dynamo are pretty much directly connected to the ac outlets, as in the generators we use in construction, then those are gonna be pretty robust.

    This thing looks like a fricking jackery though, so it’s probably for running your xbox when you’re camping. What’s with that star trek control panel? It needs one or two outlets… that’s it.
    For a skilsaw it doesn’t have to be any of that “pure sine” shit either (although that’s what a simple dynamo will create naturally) and it doesn’t need to be that close to 60Hz either.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >star trek control panel
      starting switch
      on off switch
      circuit breaker
      2 usb ports
      2 outlets
      auto-idle switch
      parallel connector
      ground stud

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If the coils of the dynamo are pretty much directly connected to the ac outlets,
      It says on the side of the generator, INVERTER GENERATOR
      The power head powers the inverter which supplies power to the outlets.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      > if the coils are connected directly to the output

      I haven't heard it phrased that way, but duh me, that's exactly how the type of generator you described, works. I've called them 'worksite generators.'

      https://i.imgur.com/P7PNpg5.png

      Looking at a generator (WEN 56225i 2250-Watt Portable Inverter Generator), with 1800w rated watts. The most heavy usage will likely be running a circular saw - which is 15a and 120w. Im not proficent with power draws, but im assuming this means the saw draws 1800w (15 x 120)?

      Or do tools run at a lower wattage? Because if its drawing 1800w, thats putting the generator at 100% draw. While some sites are saying a 1800w rated generator will run it no problem. Which is correct?

      Those worksite generators 1865 mentioned, are what you need. The downside is they run at a constant minimum power output. At 'idle' - when you're not loading them, you're wasting about half their rated power output. That also makes them louder than inverter generators, where the e.g. Harbor Freight ultra quite inverter generator, you cannot hear at idle.

      It also makes them use more gas. A 4kw-5kw worksite, a constant-speed (direct coil-output) generator, would be about the sweet spot for running a continuous 15A (1800w) load. Figure with current Burger gas prices, your price per kwh is $1.00, which is why for intermittent saw use, with a high initial draw, you want to look at getting one of the higher-wattage inverter generators to handle it. They can handle a single induction (motor) load pretty-well. I think HF has a 3700w ultra quiet, for reference. I'm sure WEN does too.

      A 3700 inverter probably has a 5kw peak for inductive load starting, and a preferred maximum continuous output of 3200w, but practically you want that around 25-30% of the rated output, for noise, fuel consumption, and longevity. An 1800w saw, is more than 25%. If it's the only load of significance you are running, and assuming it's not running continuously, but instead on and off throughout the day, that gives the generator time to cool down.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    spend the money and get a 3500 or 4500 watt generator. you'll end up wanting one anyways sooner or later.

    • 7 months ago
      Bepis

      > if the coils are connected directly to the output

      I haven't heard it phrased that way, but duh me, that's exactly how the type of generator you described, works. I've called them 'worksite generators.'

      [...]
      Those worksite generators 1865 mentioned, are what you need. The downside is they run at a constant minimum power output. At 'idle' - when you're not loading them, you're wasting about half their rated power output. That also makes them louder than inverter generators, where the e.g. Harbor Freight ultra quite inverter generator, you cannot hear at idle.

      It also makes them use more gas. A 4kw-5kw worksite, a constant-speed (direct coil-output) generator, would be about the sweet spot for running a continuous 15A (1800w) load. Figure with current Burger gas prices, your price per kwh is $1.00, which is why for intermittent saw use, with a high initial draw, you want to look at getting one of the higher-wattage inverter generators to handle it. They can handle a single induction (motor) load pretty-well. I think HF has a 3700w ultra quiet, for reference. I'm sure WEN does too.

      A 3700 inverter probably has a 5kw peak for inductive load starting, and a preferred maximum continuous output of 3200w, but practically you want that around 25-30% of the rated output, for noise, fuel consumption, and longevity. An 1800w saw, is more than 25%. If it's the only load of significance you are running, and assuming it's not running continuously, but instead on and off throughout the day, that gives the generator time to cool down.

      Lithium battery packs sure are compact compared to an extrension cord, let alone an entire generator

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        > lithium is better.
        To run that load, OP needs 48v*200ah for 5 hrs runtime, and to handle the surge using a typical BMS. Plus an inverter. That's over $3000, and about 250lbs. DavidPoz did a build that was cheaper, less than $2000 using used batteries, but the generator can be had for $1,000, or less if it's not an inverter style.

        • 7 months ago
          Bepis

          Yeah dude circulars aren’t running contantly like that unless you’re trying to run a damn sawmill. And if that’s what OP is trying to do, he should build it on a river with a water wheel and get certified Green(tm).

          Also what other anon mentioned is true, you’re burning gas while the generator is running while you do the 95%+ that is measuring and fitting and fastening and not actually putting a blade through a board.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            > namegay
            Maybe you should pay for it, then?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >namegay
              no one cares dipshit

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                apparently you do. who's the 'dipshit' now? M sorry your parents were so moronic, but that's not on me. That's for you to figure out, little man.

              • 7 months ago
                Bepis

                >namegay
                no one cares dipshit

                > namegay
                Maybe you should pay for it, then?

                Kek. This place is such a shithole

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >This place is such a shithole
                I have to congratulate you. You have spent years shitting here and it has paid off.

              • 7 months ago
                Bepis

                Oh it has been a shithole long before I shitted it up.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >little man
                I bet I'm old enough to be your father...
                describe your mother.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >apparently you do
                oooh so close. you almost had an insult there. maybe if this was kindergarten that might have meant something.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        how to say "I've never worked with lithium ion batteries on a large scale", without saying it.

        • 7 months ago
          Bepis

          how to say "I've never worked with them new fancy voodoo brushless 8.ought wood cutters", without saying it.

          If OP was rippin stuff on a table saw a bunch and then goin to the miter saw, then one of those 3.5kW generators would probably be my reply.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            op will always need more power, no one ever went to a job site and said "gosh if only I had less power". skippy

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