Anyone ever lived on a canoe before?
Gonna be without a roof soon and this way I avoid cops, government doesn't care.
I wanna put some outriggers on it and rig a tarp/tent setup on it, and just sleep in the canoe. (It's illegal to sleep at night for any reason outside a designated camping zone, but this doesn't apply to waters/boats)
Any tips/suggestions?
Pic rel is a homeless dude living on a canoe. He has a sail but that's too much for my DIY skills.
Very based
have a nice day, loser.
Every fricking day some homeless LOSER posts on this fricking board like his pathetic, loser life is our problem. This board is for outdoors hobbies, not fricking shit stain loser vagrants to get advice on their parasitic loser lifestyle.
Get fricked, you street rat.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Inb4 the leftist gay who posts on this board comes to worship the holy low and weak.
Living on a canoe being homeless is one of the least parasitic western lifestyles that exist. Regardless, canoeing and living on a canoe is definitely PrepHole related.
What a weird group to be angry at, the homeless. Like getting angry at zooplankton or something. You'll find out one day!
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>food stamps
Pussy. Im homeless and have a job. Only Black folk accept any handout that isnt from family
I would mind if any of these frickers actually lived their larp and posted a thread about them living on a canoe or something, but they never do...
I think you're confusing actual homeless people with teenagers wanting to be homeless because of a bad home life, I am the OP and I see a lot of 'i wanna walk across america posts', and I understand the desire to be free, and if you have a back-up plan/failsafe it's a good learning experience.These people don't tend to be larping, they really have a desire for this, but they lack the skill to do it. What they really mean is 'I wanna be capable and self-sufficient enough to be homeless', but their inexperienced mind translates this into 'i wanna be a hobo'.
But I think you're overestimating the degree I am larping, this isn't a dream of mine, but rather a necessity due to homelessness.
People in this thread have guided me towards buying a bigger boat that is more liveable, and I think that's just the guidance I needed.
I downloaded a sailing simulator (eSail), and I'll be watching videos and maybe find a good book. In my country, they don't allow tourists to rent a boat without prior sailing experience, not even these little boats. I could contact them and see if its possible anyway, but it's not a certainty.
I'll try to remember your post.
I'm gonna be travelling to inspect a boat next monday, a 20 footer sailing yacht.
camping from a canoe is illegal in my country, in fact sleeping anywhere outside an official home without a permit during nighttime is illegal (does not apply to boats luckily)
Any boat that floats has to have some value, with a motor or oars you could make just about everything that is stable and floating work. But the trade off of storage/marina fees is the big killer I suppose.
The sites are pretty neat, I found a boat on another site already, I think is looks good. He's asking 1200 for it, got a working outboard motor too and is a complete boat. Seems to be in a decent condition.
Polynesia seems like the boaters paradise.
pic rel. is the boat model
>People in this thread have guided me towards buying a bigger boat that is more liveable, and I think that's just the guidance I needed.
Did PrepHole actually just help someone?
I'm not sure why you'd go so small. Old boats are cheap AF and if you're willing to put in some work you can get them for free. So at least get one that's a decent size.
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i could buy a sailing yacht on the cheap, around 1000$, but I'd have to row it until I figure out how to sail
get a sailing dinghy anon, learn slow.
no time for that, I could buy a sub 20 footer yacht and slowly learn the ropes. I don't need to be a good sailor, just barely good enough.
Fair enough, I was mostly thinking of a canoe because they cost like 200$, are easily portaged and moored basically everywhere, and don't require much skill.
But I'll take the advice, and get myself a boat. I'll see if I can buy one soon enough, might even post her in this thread.
>Fair enough, I was mostly thinking of a canoe because they cost like 200$, are easily portaged and moored basically everywhere, and don't require much skill.
>But I'll take the advice, and get myself a boat. I'll see if I can buy one soon enough, might even post her in this thread.
Yea, though it's sad to see boats so cheap, it makes me think that every boat ever made is just disposable in a sense, built just to be thrown away. Literally floating piles of garbage. I heard that after a hurricane in places like Florida, there's always a bunch of trashed boats scattered like litter throughout the waters, all smashed up and half sank.
https://www.free-boat.com/
https://budgetboats.net/boats/free-almost-free
>it's sad to see boats so cheap
I think it's nice, it makes it easy for beginners to learn/experiment nearly risk-free.
True, I guess, never seen it like that before. I feel badly for people who buy new. But I can't control what other people put their money into, if they want to buy a boat, who am I to say "no, it's a waste". Anyway, I hope it all works out for you.
BTW, this one looks good: https://www.free-boat.com/free/43ft-buchanan-yawl-sailboat-french-polynesia/
Lots of room for everything you need. One thing to note, though, that mooring charges are by the foot, so a longer boat will cost you more if you decide to pay for harbor space. Might be worth it though, they've got shower, electricity and water available.
If I ever become a multimillionare I think I will buy a new 20-something foot sailboat. Some of the new ones are legitimately very nice and then you can be picky about the exact configuration etc and they're still not much more than a luxury car.
Outside of that though, yeah buying new is pretty silly.
It would be nice, for sure, but I'd want to be more than just a multimillionaire to get into luxury boating. I do go by the harbor to see some, though, and they are impressive.
My first boat was 20% of my net worth when I bought it so this is just an accurate linear projection of how I spend my money now.
Hey, if it makes you happy, I'm all for it, good for you. I've been a bit too much of a mustachian to consider things like this.
>I don't need to be a good sailor
I'd argue that if you're going to be on the boat no matter the conditions you probably do need to be an exceptionally good sailor. A big part of getting good is practice though so maybe you'll outrun the weather.
You can learn with like 3 hours of lessons or just watch some YouTube videos and then go down to your local marina and rent a sunfish.
Biggest things you'll probably need to know: If you're running and it feels like you're losing control just turn windward and sheet out.
Dock on the leeward side of the dock don't run into it (less intuitive than you would think.)
Remember you need to keep your speed up when you're tacking.
Watch the current, that will effectively change the apparent wind and you'll need to adjust your points of sail accordingly
Otherwise just remember your points of sail and don't go out when it's too windy.
as the other anon said, get a larger boat.
A lot of them come with a small motor and an anchor, and more importantly they have keels so shitty little waves won't rock you around and you won't have to spend so much energy carefully balancing all your shit on the boat. For quality sleep I would suggest this.
the only advantage of a smaller boat would be versatility in locations: you won't need docks, can go in shallow water, and can drag it on land to hide it or transport it to other locations if you know someone with a trailer.
best of luck anon
The price difference between small used sailboats and small used canoes is pretty tiny. I'd definitely recommend one of those instead for sleeping in.
It wouldn't be hard to rig up a cuddy cabin on a small daysailer and live out of that.
as someone who has spent a lot of time in canoes i can confirm sleeping in them sucks major dog dick
if you are serious and have the option at all find a small aluminum row boat or some version of fishing boat. having an actual flat bottom and a little more space would improve your sleeping and overall utility by so much i don't even know. the only reason for a canoe is if you are paddling longer distances or need to carry it which both dont sound like considerations in your case. an 18ft rowboat would still give you the ability to sit in backwaters where nobody would bother you and drag it up on shore without needing a dock for whatever homeless activities come up.
Yes, there are a bunch of cheap fisher boats available. I'm also looking at a small and narrow sailing yacht, which looks like it could be rowed. The yacht doesn't have a mast, which is why it is cheap, otherwise pretty nice boat. That'd cost me 700 bucks, which I can spare.
The canoe idea was with outriggers in mind, to provide stability during sleep. Also the portaging part is indeed a major plus for canoes and small fishing boats.
So it'd either be a 200-400$ fishing boat, or a 700$ mastless sailing yacht which I'd need to row. I'm contacting the sailing yacht seller, it's pretty close to where I live so I could pull it off. Need to figure out how deep the keel goes though, for easy mooring outside of marinas.
I camp out with mine for sometimes two weeks at a time and I think it'd be fricking miserable for much longer than that.
I've never lived on a canoe, but I've camped out of a canoe and it's certainly doable. Sleep on top of your stuff for insulation, avoid large bodies of water, and figure out a way to put up a waterproof canopy over it. If you won't ever have to take it out of the water and move it across land, even better. Sleeping on one might be a problem if you have a lot of stuff though, or if you have multiple people with you.
You better have a lifetime hunting/fishing license for your state if you are even going to bother.
he lived there for months and in the middle of the ocean
I'm honestly really surprised this has become less common rather than more common.
Materials are cheaper.
Learning is easier.
Society is harsher towards men (why he did that.)
Are they really all doing the mouse utopia "beautiful ones" thing rather than pushing the frontier out?
maybe it'll start booming soon, we're going back to heaps of lonely young men on boats
bro's... is the pirate era making a come back? kino timeline if so
Thalassophobe horror movie right there
>in the middle of the ocean
>trying to sleep at night
>get woken up by your kayak lurching as something bumps it
>scramble for your headlamp, stick your head out of shelter
>can't see anything but black water under a sky with no moon
>water is clearly disturbed but no sign of what hit the boat
>just as you start to settle back in the kayak lurches again
>hundreds of miles from any kind of help, no light but your feeble headlamp, no way to contact anyone
It's worse, there's nothing out there at all. Not even a goddam fish if you're not on a fishing grounds. You might see a shark and it'll be your only friend for a whole week. There's nothing to bump you other than the Ocean itself.
Imagine trying to sleep in a small tube, knowing that just 1-2 inches of wood/fibreglass is the only thing that separates you from the airless abyss directly below. That would be worse than sleeping in an actual coffin in my opinion, at least with a casket you can't wake up sinking into a watery grave.
Not to mention the cold! How are you going to maintain a decent body temp when you're surrounded by cold water so closely? You would need to cocoon yourself in so many layers just to maintain.
No thanks. It would be better to have a decent tent and just move around every few nights to avoid being disturbed, legality be damned.
dude just get a basic b***h metal fishing boat. theyre like 400 bucks with a motor secondhand. long enough to lay down on. put it anywhere.
dont jump the gun and get some shit you arent ready to handle. none of these idiots has a boat. keep it simple. move up from there.
Heh. This is actually good advice, especially if you have a truck and can just move it using the bed (although you can rent one from Home depot for pretty cheap.)
Those will give you a pretty stable platform to put stuff on and metal is pretty durable and low maintenance.
West Marine has a $600 8 foot hard dinghy that I have and works well. It's stable enough I can stand on it in the water and rows *fast.* You might consider that as well.
OP here. bought a 20 foot sailing yacht with a couple months of slip time paid, pretty darn comfy, will post pics soon
Here OP. It's an interesting idea, but probably pretty far from ideal
put two together